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#1 Khalas101
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Ive been hearing all this hype for this game, so I got the game. I only played about 1hour and I got sick of it already. I dont like the way my character moves and combat, it feels slow and cluncky, you dont have much freedom. And from what ive seen the character developpment is awful. Not many weaps and armor, and whats up with the potions? They dont refill your hp quickly or sometimes anything...

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#2 NEOSPARKING
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that's "The Witcher" to you.
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Blog it...?
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#4 Khalas101
Member since 2007 • 138 Posts

Blog it...?YourOldFriend

NO I want to know why ppl lied about this game, when its awful

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#5 pwilletts
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People have different opinions about games, no one lied.
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#6 TeamR
Member since 2002 • 1817 Posts

NO I want to know why ppl lied about this game, when its awful

Khalas101

lol

amusing

obviously thousands of thousands of positive feedback on the site were wrong. your hour of play experience with the game obviously means that your opinion is worth more than everyone elses

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#7 android19fan
Member since 2004 • 419 Posts

to each their own........

but seriously dude the witcher is incredible imo......i don't have anything at all negative to say about the game now that the patch made the save and load times far quicker.

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#8 Meu2k7
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Its more about the role playing than the character building, its amazing anyway.

Not every RPG is mad focused on building up your character.

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#9 nutcrackr
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what I want to know is why having hundreds of weapons and armor makes a game better than one with fewer selections? Is it just the lotto factor? Changing your weapon every 20 mins is more fun than actually playing? You can customise your weapons with oils, you can customise your characters abilities, its more focused. The combat can be a little clunky but you grow into it
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Ive been hearing all this hype for this game, so I got the game. I only played about 1hour and I got sick of it already. I dont like the way my character moves and combat, it feels slow and cluncky, you dont have much freedom. And from what ive seen the character developpment is awful. Not many weaps and armor, and whats up with the potions? They dont refill your hp quickly or sometimes anything...

Khalas101

your opinion is worth jack since you only played for an hour. how the hell can you judge the combat? you sir phailed today.

You have freedom, just get passed the beginning... jeez

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#11 mrbojangles25
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[QUOTE="YourOldFriend"]Blog it...?Khalas101

NO I want to know why ppl lied about this game, when its awful

:lol:

nobody lied to you. Its an awesome game, the best RPG to hit us for a long, long time.

the problem is that you have a stereotypical idea of what an RPG is inside your head. You think an RPG needs to let you choose your gender, race, and appearance. You think an RPG should have healthpacks that heal a percentage of your health. You problably think that combat should be done strictly in a DnD-style dice roll system.

Well, The Witcher is great because it doesnt do any of these things, and it is good because it is unique in this aspect. Most of all, these unique characteristics actually work.

I suggest you go back to the game one or two more times with an open mind. The combat did seem clunky, but once you get used to it, its really quite nice. And everything else is just awesome.

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#12 Planeforger
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I dont like the way my character moves and combat, it feels slow and cluncky, you dont have much freedom.Khalas101

The combat feels clunky initially since you've only got one or two attacks to chain together, and only one sign. It gets better once you've levelled up a bit.

As for character movement...it seems fine to me. :|

And from what ive seen the character developpment is awful. Not many weaps and armor, and whats up with the potions? They dont refill your hp quickly or sometimes anything...Khalas101

This isn't your standard, cliche'd RPG.
Survival depends on your skill choices, alchemy, and your choices in combat - not on the number of magical weapons/armour/items that you own.

There actually are a fair amount of weapons in the game, but you are only an hour in, so I don't see how you can comment on it.
Also, there are potions that instantly heal you. You're just not up to that yet.

Anyway, nobody lied about the game - it is easily the best fantasy RPG since Baldurs Gate 2.

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#13 Anofalye
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First, thank you! You confirm that my decision ofnot bothering with the Witcher was a good and enlightened one, based on your comments but mostly on other posters.

But...there are negatives feedbacks as well.

If you click The Witcher and check the review of GS, you will see PRO and CONs. You can also check the player reviews, some goes as low as 1/10 (it is worth more then that, but heck, don't say nobody warns you). You can also click OTHER REVIEWS and GS list them all for you.

Nobody lies, everyone tells you the truth, from their perspective. I choose to not even bother to try it or Mass Effect* in base of the reviews...then I was trying to be nice and throw up a coin, telling myself I would try 1 or the other...and the coin land directly on the middle, never going head or tail! So I stay FAR from both games and will never bother to try them myself. :)

See, even in this topic, as they praise it...some user choose to trash D&D in their example as to why the Witcher is good...and then another user say it is the best since a D&D title... Obviously you have a D&D hater and a D&D fan which both love the game. Personnally, I figure I rather try BioShock (just bought it) then play either of these soo-called RPGs.

EDIT:* Actually, ifMass Effectwould have been done by any other company but BioWare maybe I would have tried that game, but BioWare has a legacy and if they move away from what I like, I have to ignore styles I enjoy less, downgrades are not acceptable hehehe. See, these devs must stop trying to please their existing fanbase and then make an hybrid to get more fans, without releasing existing fans...doesn't work...as the result is always less and less pleasing...but that would be another topic. They should just do 1 shooter, 1 racing game, a few other new styles, and then come back do what they are good with. hybrid-whoring isn't cool, nor good.

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#14 DarKre
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I beat it last night, and im gonna play through it again. I BARELY play through games again...it rocked
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#15 stopitandtidyup
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The prologue is the tutorial. At least get to Chapter One before you condemn the best RPG in years.
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#16 Shadow-Eagle
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A shot in the dark here, but I think you walked into The Witcher expecting the wrong type of RPG, like collecting gear, grinding to gain levels, doing fetch quests etc. wrapped around a story.

The Witcher is far from this.

EDIT: Man.. When is Gamespot going to fix this spacing problem.

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#17 capthavic
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My biggest problem with it so far is that it feels like a poorly edited movie. And by that I mean the dialog doesn't flow well and feels like scenes are missing.

For example after they decide where they are going to search for the bad guys, I was dropped outside a town fighting demon dogs. There was no interlude (I wanted to save and quit), no showing your arrival to the town, no nothing.

Now I'm not gonna give final judgement just yet but jarring stuff like that hurts the experience for me.

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go play crappy repetative games with no story like Diabo
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#19 Khalas101
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go play crappy repetative games with no story like DiaboDarth_Kane

Dont disrespect Diablo... and Diablo is a better game then Witcher, every1 knows that.

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#20 Alter_Echo
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My only complaints are :

1. The game should have a lock on targeting system

2. The artificially restrictive environments are lame. Being 10 feet from where you are going but having to go 3 miles around because there is a 2 foot tall hill or a fence is retarded.

3. Needs a jump ability to get over said obstacles.

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#21 Shadow-Eagle
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[QUOTE="Darth_Kane"]go play crappy repetative games with no story like DiaboKhalas101

Dont disrespect Diablo... and Diablo is a better game then Witcher, every1 knows that.

I guess I was right.

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#22 NEOSPARKING
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[QUOTE="Darth_Kane"]go play crappy repetative games with no story like DiaboKhalas101

Dont disrespect Diablo... and Diablo is a better game then Witcher, every1 knows that.


maybe game but not rpg
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#23 Anofalye
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[QUOTE="Khalas101"]

[QUOTE="Darth_Kane"]go play crappy repetative games with no story like DiaboNEOSPARKING

Dont disrespect Diablo... and Diablo is a better game then Witcher, every1 knows that.


maybe game but not rpg

Well, Diablo is a better RPG on the following points:

- Choices ofSOME characters at start.

- Extensive character customisation, developpment, tree.

- Gear diversification.

My main 2 complains about Diablo would be it lack of a good story and the real time fast clicking component, which even BioWare adopts. Is the lack of a good story or the real time fast clicking component the worst? I would say the fast clicking is worser.

At least, Diablo is not totally Linear, although it admitelly offer nothing beside hack and slash, you are free to hack and slash in any direction you want, which alone already outmatch many "RPG" that are nothing but a book been read with 3D supports.

I like a good story, but the story is merely a diversion, a nice little extra, it is purely optional, in a good RPG. Anyone thinking otherwise is not focused on the multi-players realities, where you don't have the time to follow a story, as the grouping with other players become a priority and you can't stop your whole group to catch on the story. If a dev insist too much on the story, I frown. I like the story, but never at the expanse of what I really enjoy. You can remove the story and I will still love the RPG. If you remove the RPG and kept the story, you lost 1 player. I can watch TV if the story is that important.

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#24 the_ChEeSe_mAn2
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As others said: to each their own. Didn't you know, by the way, that there was a demo of the game? It came out quite a while ago now and you could have gauged your opinion of the game prior to purchasing it. No one "lied" to you. People told you their opinions and that was it.
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#25 foxhound_fox
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Have fun missing out on the best RPG of the year.
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#26 Anofalye
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Have fun missing out on the best RPG of the year.foxhound_fox

Yeah, I wont try:

Shin Megami Tensei III.

Sorry, I will stick to City of Villains until a RPG worthy of my time grasp my attention, I am that spoiled! To me, this MMO-RPG outmatch any newcomer with their limits on multiplayers...hehehe, can you imagine the Witcher in multiplayers? Everyone is playing the same character! ROFL, that is a premium RPG! :P

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#27 android19fan
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Have fun missing out on the best RPG of the year.Anofalye

Yeah, I wont try:

Shin Megami Tensei III.

Sorry, I will stick to City of Villains until a RPG worthy of my time grasp my attention, I am that spoiled! To me, this MMO-RPG outmatch any newcomer with their limits on multiplayers...hehehe, can you imagine the Witcher in multiplayers? Everyone is playing the same character! ROFL, that is a premium RPG! :P

*sigh* you ignorant s.o.b.

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#28 Dopemonk736
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go play crappy repetative games with no story like DiaboDarth_Kane

wow wtf, get off of gamespot. any respectable human being knows diablo is better than the witcher.

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#29 Dopemonk736
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Have fun missing out on the best RPG of the year.foxhound_fox

*cough* other than mass effect of course :)

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#30 deactivated-586249e1b64ba
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Ive been hearing all this hype for this game, so I got the game. I only played about 1hour and I got sick of it already. I dont like the way my character moves and combat, it feels slow and cluncky, you dont have much freedom. And from what ive seen the character developpment is awful. Not many weaps and armor, and whats up with the potions? They dont refill your hp quickly or sometimes anything...

Khalas101

There was a demo you know. Maybe you should've played that first.

Freedom is not in the environment. Freedom is in choices, and there are many of those in both character development and story just in the demo alone.

Slow and clunky? Have you been mashing the attack button or do you not know about chain attacks? Have you been playing from a bird's eye view or over the shoulder? Were you playing on easy?

Not all potions are meant for healing. Blizzard, for example, raises your combat effectiveness and Cat's Eye allows you to see in the dark for a few hours.

I think you've been playing too many hack and slashers or grinders.

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[QUOTE="Darth_Kane"]go play crappy repetative games with no story like DiaboDopemonk736

wow wtf, get off of gamespot. any respectable human being knows diablo is better than the witcher.

What makes Diablo better than the witcher? Diablo was amazing for it's time, but if there is one classic that didn't stand against the test of time it's diablo...

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#32 zeus_gb
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[QUOTE="YourOldFriend"]Blog it...?Khalas101

NO I want to know why ppl lied about this game, when its awful

People haven't lied. You don't like it and that's your opinion. Other like it and that's there opinion. Personally I think it's game of the year and that's my opinion.
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#33 Darth_Kane
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[QUOTE="Darth_Kane"]go play crappy repetative games with no story like DiaboDopemonk736

wow wtf, get off of gamespot. any respectable human being knows diablo is better than the witcher.

Wanna bet ? Go make a poll of "Best RPG ever made" and put: Diabo series, KOTOR series, Baldur's Gate series, Fallout series and The Witcher and you'll see that Diabo will have the least votes

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#34 CubePrime_basic
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[QUOTE="Darth_Kane"]go play crappy repetative games with no story like DiaboDopemonk736

wow wtf, get off of gamespot. any respectable human being knows diablo is better than the witcher.

lawl diablo; monkeys in chains could make better quests... *so what if they created an economy for geeks to share their passion at not having anything to do but seek a better sword*

The Witcher is actually immersing you into an other believable world with cool quests and characters... anyways, I just considered myself a 'respectable human being'

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#35 wulfgar31k
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The Withcer is actually a fantastic game. If you find collecting tons of items rewarding then it is certainly not the game for you, however a great story, many descisions, memorable charcetors, and a very balanced feel make this a truly GREAT RPG. And btw there is a demo of it out, should have tried that to see if you would like it or not.
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#36 mrbojangles25
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People complain when they get a generic RPG about gaining levels, finding gear, and doing all that typical stuff.

People complain when they get a great game that breaks free of the generic recipe for an RPG.

WTF people.

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#37 anshul89
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People complain when they get a generic RPG about gaining levels, finding gear, and doing all that typical stuff.

People complain when they get a great game that breaks free of the generic recipe for an RPG.

WTF people.

mrbojangles25
haha yeah
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[QUOTE="NEOSPARKING"][QUOTE="Khalas101"]

[QUOTE="Darth_Kane"]go play crappy repetative games with no story like DiaboAnofalye

Dont disrespect Diablo... and Diablo is a better game then Witcher, every1 knows that.


maybe game but not rpg

Well, Diablo is a better RPG on the following points:

- Choices ofSOME characters at start.

- Extensive character customisation, developpment, tree.

- Gear diversification.

My main 2 complains about Diablo would be it lack of a good story and the real time fast clicking component, which even BioWare adopts. Is the lack of a good story or the real time fast clicking component the worst? I would say the fast clicking is worser.

At least, Diablo is not totally Linear, although it admitelly offer nothing beside hack and slash, you are free to hack and slash in any direction you want, which alone already outmatch many "RPG" that are nothing but a book been read with 3D supports.

I like a good story, but the story is merely a diversion, a nice little extra, it is purely optional, in a good RPG. Anyone thinking otherwise is not focused on the multi-players realities, where you don't have the time to follow a story, as the grouping with other players become a priority and you can't stop your whole group to catch on the story. If a dev insist too much on the story, I frown. I like the story, but never at the expanse of what I really enjoy. You can remove the story and I will still love the RPG. If you remove the RPG and kept the story, you lost 1 player. I can watch TV if the story is that important.

You said yourself that you've never played the game. You can't make comparisons between one game that you've played and one that you haven't.

I have both Witcher and Diablo and think they are both great games, but they're way too different.

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#39 Johnny_Rock
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[QUOTE="Darth_Kane"]go play crappy repetative games with no story like DiaboKhalas101

Dont disrespect Diablo... and Diablo is a better game then Witcher, every1 knows that.

No we don't.