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#1 nuggs013
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Which do you think will be a better overall game, The Witcher or HellGate London?
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#2 dnuggs40
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All depends on what you are looking for...

Deep RPG - Witcher

Hack & Slash online - Hellgate

I think they will be very close as far as reviews go, with probably the Witcher getting slightly higher overall.

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#3 osan0
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i cant speek for hellgate but im enjoying the witcher alot. great game imho and id definately recommend it.
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#4 portujoel5
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The Witcher is such a great game, I don't care about any other for now. OMG it's awesome. Second act is very cool so far
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#5 naval
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Ummm... Har one, i believe witcher would be better
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#6 DethZero
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I started playing the Witcher today. Holy crap is this game awesome. I honestly believe it has GOTY material. Awesome story and great combat so far.
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#7 A1B2C3CAL
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I like hellgate for the firearms and 1st person view.
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#8 Cra2y
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Its Christmas Time in Hell!!
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#9 Cra2y
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hopefully Hellgate has the Man-bear-pig.
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#10 iwokojance
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Which do you think will be a better overall game, The Witcher or HellGate London?nuggs013

Yes. ;)

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#11 thusaha
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I guess I'll wait til full version of Hellgate come out.
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#12 DethZero
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Hellgate was pretty buggy and unfinished during the beta. We'll see on haloween if they fixed anything when my copy should arrive. However, I am liking the Witcher alot =]
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#13 Xshinobi
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I like both. But I had more fun with Hellgate's beta.
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#14 portujoel5
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I like both. But I had more fun with Hellgate's beta.anime-2k3

I guess it's up to each persons taste.

I was about to asy you where crazy, because I'm so deep into the witcher now, but then I thought "well, to each his own". I guess it's all about how people like it. Hellgate was kinda cool on the demo, but a turn off on how dull it looked, so I'm waiting to check it out.

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#15 Galzakian
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I think The Witcher, after playing the demo and beta for Hellgate: London, I'm a little less interested tbh. The Witcher just keeps sounding better and better.
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#16 ROXLYDE
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For me...The Witcher.
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#17 JimJackJose
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Hellgate was buggy, repeptitive, and after a few days very boring.

Witcher all the way imo.

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#18 FlaminDeath
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Hellgate was a dissapointment to me personally, but I haven't played The Witcher yet so dunno.

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#19 -MythuS-
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is everyones comment on hellgate in relation to the sp beta, cause the mp beta was incredible imo.
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#20 ElectricNZ
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The Witcher
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#21 EndersAres
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The Witcher for me. It's been a long time since a good cRPG came out. I played Hellgate and didn't like it. One of the great things about diablo was the singleplayer and not just the multi-player.
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#23 Darth_Kane
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They are both very different

The Witcher is an awesome deep cinematic RPG with an awesome story and lots of choices

Hellgate: London is a repetative linear boring first person RPG with barely a story and has online that you have to pay for ( in other words the true successor to Diablo 2 )

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#24 _Pedro_
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judging by the reviews of the Witcher it's a must have title for any RPG fans and the only thing holding it down are technical issues. Luckily those can always be fixed either by the community or the devs.
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#25 dnuggs40
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They are both very different

The Witcher is an awesome deep cinematic RPG with an awesome story and lots of choices

Hellgate: London is a repetative linear boring first person RPG with barely a story and has online that you have to pay for ( in other words the true successor to Diablo 2 )

Darth_Kane

Barely any story? What's the story then? I garuntee you don't have a clue to what the full story is.

And you don't HAVE to pay for online, it's optional.

As for it beeing boring, well, not gonna go there with you. To each his own. Though I wanted to clear up the factual innacuracies in your post ;)

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#26 delirin
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How can you even dispute that HG:L is lacking in the story department... it's a series of collection quests with incoherantly babeling npc's.

Also, the fee may be optional, but it doesn't make it any less ridiculus.... or neccisary for any serious gamer.

@topicWitcher of course.

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#27 TheCrazed420
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I'll be getting both...duh.
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#28 prowler666
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like people here are telling you, they are very different:

Hellgate is boring and repetitive, while Witcher is deep, somewhat-fresh and interesting :)

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#29 dnuggs40
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How can you even dispute that HG:L is lacking in the story department... it's a series of collection quests with incoherantly babeling npc's.

Also, the fee may be optional, but it doesn't make it any less ridiculus.... or neccisary for any serious gamer.

@topicWitcher of course.

delirin

Gee,I dunno, maybe the fact they we were missing every cutscene in the game that would help move and explain the story. Also missing Act IV & V which is 70% of the game, and the few people in the beta who got that content ALL said the story picks up greatly from that point.

And I don't care if you think it is rediculous, I was just clearing up that it was not MANDATORY, and is OPTIONAL.

So there you go, I cleared up your baloney too :)

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#30 Zarachas
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I have actually not tried Witcher, but after hearing its uses Aurora Engine (NWN) I will for sure try it out :)
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#31 delirin
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Gee,I dunno, maybe the fact they we were missing every cutscene in the game that would help move and explain the story. Also missing Act IV & V which is 70% of the game, and the few people in the beta who got that content ALL said the story picks up greatly from that point.

And I don't care if you think it is rediculous, I was just clearing up that it was not MANDATORY, and is OPTIONAL.

So there you go, I cleared up your baloney too :)

dnuggs40

Just to clarify or "clear up some baloney", you were basing your defense of the plot on the theory that FSS has a magical version of the game that is completley different from the beta, and cutscenes that you haven't seen.

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#32 weirjf
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Not going to choose; buying BOTH. HG:L has me addicted just like D2 did, and Witcher is the best RPG I've playedin quite a while.

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#33 dnuggs40
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[QUOTE="dnuggs40"]

Gee,I dunno, maybe the fact they we were missing every cutscene in the game that would help move and explain the story. Also missing Act IV & V which is 70% of the game, and the few people in the beta who got that content ALL said the story picks up greatly from that point.

And I don't care if you think it is rediculous, I was just clearing up that it was not MANDATORY, and is OPTIONAL.

So there you go, I cleared up your baloney too :)

delirin

Just to clarify or "clear up some baloney", you were basing your defense of the plot on the theory that FSS has a magical version of the game that is completley different from the beta, and cutscenes that you haven't seen.

Ya...I sure implied there was a magical build huh? :roll:

Maybe YOU missed the part where I said:

"Also missing Act IV & V which is 70% of the game, and the few people in the beta who got that content ALL said the story picks up greatly from that point."

I am not claiming the story is revolutionary or even great, just diputing the FACT you cannot determine there is no story from a beta that was missing cutscenes and 70% of the content. Not to mention form ALL accounts from the people who DID play the last 70% of the game that the story greatly picks up.

Sorry, again, you fail at anything resembling a coherent argument. Any more straw man arguments you wish to share with us?

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#34 delirin
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You implied that there was more to the story. The structure of the game thus far shows us to be the opposite. There is no way that FSS is going to have a random collection quest game for the first several hours and pull a 180 on the unreleased content and turn the game in a completley new direction. Not happening. Implying otherwise is implying there is a magical, unreleased version of the game.

now, as interested asI am in your random insults, I really have to go to work.

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#35 weirjf
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You implied that there was more to the story. The structure of the game thus far shows us to be the opposite. There is no way that FSS is going to have a random collection quest game for the first several hours and pull a 180 on the unreleased content and turn the game in a completley new direction. Not happening. Implying otherwise is implying there is a magical, unreleased version of the game.

now, as interested asI am in your random insults, I really have to go to work.

delirin

proving you have zero understanding of the beta. proving you were not in the beta test and not in the beta forums. proving you are just trolling the HG:L topics to annoy people. reported again

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#36 delirin
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Believe it or not, I pre-ordered the game, was somewhat interested, but canceledweirjf. It sucks, bad. What was I reported for? Having an opinion?You HG:L fanbois are feisty this morning. must... go... to work later ;)
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#37 dnuggs40
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You implied that there was more to the story. The structure of the game thus far shows us to be the opposite. There is no way that FSS is going to have a random collection quest game for the first several hours and pull a 180 on the unreleased content and turn the game in a completley new direction. Not happening. Implying otherwise is implying there is a magical, unreleased version of the game.

now, as interested asI am in your random insults, I really have to go to work.

delirin

What don't you understand about not having CUTSCENES (you know, those movie things that help move a story along) and missing 70% of the content of the game? What don't you understand about player accounts that the last two acts start picking up on the main story line greatly?

Nevermind, it's obvious you are not even attempting to understand. You are meerly invested in your trolling and no amount of facts will ever get into that little brain of yours.

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#38 DireToad
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Both.
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#39 Srinivassa
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I've heard better things about The Witcher so far, but I am in no position to judge. I'm not in on any demos or betas. I've never been in on a beta. I just hear more praise for The Witcher that makes it sound like my kind of game. deep combat. good story. interesting mobs and environments. I can't say much about Hellgate. It seems like it's mostly just people defending it saying, "it's not as bad as you Witcher people make it out to be." ...which it probably isn't. I'm still guessing, here at the no-play point, that I will like Witcher better. It will probably be the one I buy if I do buy one right away.
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#40 the-wiz
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I think the witcher may deliver a better first impression.. but I think Hellgate is going to have deeper gameplay, and stick around quite a bit longerafter the Witcher..

You don't HAVE to pay for Hellgate online? and you can still play with all your buddies like regular, right?

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#41 dnuggs40
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I think the witcher may deliver a better first impression.. but I think Hellgate is going to have deeper gameplay, and stick around quite a bit longerafter the Witcher..

You don't HAVE to pay for Hellgate online? and you can still play with all your buddies like regular, right?

the-wiz

No, you don't have to pay, and yes, you can play with your buddies online through the entire campaign free of charge.

I also tend to agree with your analysis of the two games.

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#42 calvinphoon
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Well I'm going for both.

Not trying to sound like a Hellgate fanboy but have any of you seen the trailers?

They're seriously diablo/warcraft/starcraft quality.

I'm sure there is a string of awesome cut scenes to surge the story onwards.

Anyway I've booked my copy tomorrow and will enjoy it regardless of what anyone thinks here ^^

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#43 weirjf
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Believe it or not, I pre-ordered the game, was somewhat interested, but canceledweirjf. It sucks, bad. What was I reported for? Having an opinion?You HG:L fanbois are feisty this morning. must... go... to work later ;)delirin

and pre-ordering the game makes you understand that just like D2 the game is in the learning mode until level 8. it makes you have some mystic understanding of the beta and what build we were using VS retail? Do you REALLY think that a blatant troll with nearly zero understanding and experience with the gamecalling me a fanboy makes a lick of sense? Hurry back from work so that you can spend all of your off-time on the game forums! have fun! lmao

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#44 calvinphoon
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And I've played both BETA and demo...The demo seriously does the game no justice. The Beta was way more fun.
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#45 SentientGames
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The way everyone is talking about the Witcher, I'll have to pick it up. It sounds great.

As for Hellgate... Well, I think companies need to stop putting out beta's of their games, because you'll inevitably have a large group of people who don't quite grasp the idea of a "beta." What I mean is, they think "Oh wow! I get to play this game now, before the game is even out!" but what they don't realize is that they're playing a version of a game from a few months ago. Beta's are unfinished, unpolished, and glitchy.If beta's weren't those things, they wouldn't be beta's.But people expect the game to be perfect and ready for them to play, and if it's notthey get all upset.

For me? I love it. I think it's got a lot of potential. Can't wait to pick it up tomorrow.

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#46 DethZero
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The way everyone is talking about the Witcher, I'll have to pick it up. It sounds great.

As for Hellgate... Well, I think companies need to stop putting out beta's of their games, because you'll inevitably have a large group of people who don't quite grasp the idea of a "beta." What I mean is, they think "Oh wow! I get to play this game now, before the game is even out!" but what they don't realize is that they're playing a version of a game from a few months ago. Beta's are unfinished, unpolished, and glitchy.If beta's weren't those things, they wouldn't be beta's.But people expect the game to be perfect and ready for them to play, and if it's notthey get all upset.

For me? I love it. I think it's got a lot of potential. Can't wait to pick it up tomorrow.

SentientGames

Not a few months old, more like 2-3 weeks old.

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#47 Citan76
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Since I am playing the witcher I am going to say the witcher. Because that game is ridiculously awesome. I dunno how good hellgate is.
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#48 JimJackJose
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is everyones comment on hellgate in relation to the sp beta, cause the mp beta was incredible imo. -MythuS-

I was in the MP beta for quite a while. I loved it at first but after leveling 4 toons past 20 I just couldnt get into the game anymore.

At it's core the game is just a gear farming fest. Some people love that, but some don't.

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#49 gskristen
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[QUOTE="dnuggs40"]

Gee,I dunno, maybe the fact they we were missing every cutscene in the game that would help move and explain the story. Also missing Act IV & V which is 70% of the game, and the few people in the beta who got that content ALL said the story picks up greatly from that point.

And I don't care if you think it is rediculous, I was just clearing up that it was not MANDATORY, and is OPTIONAL.

So there you go, I cleared up your baloney too :)

delirin

Just to clarify or "clear up some baloney", you were basing your defense of the plot on the theory that FSS has a magical version of the game that is completley different from the beta, and cutscenes that you haven't seen.

Are you on every post that involved HG:L? My god, man! We all already know how you feel about the game, and some agree and some disagree. If someone disagrees, PLEASE don't feel the compulsion to get the last word in, because it takes the thread off topic. Just post an "I hate HG:L" thread and reply to yourself whenever you feel the need to retort to someone else.

On topic: I think both games look good, and as I haven't played the Witcher I can't really say, but I'm thinking it'll be hard for me to choose between the two. Right now HG:L just because I've played it.

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#50 Pessu
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Tried both.

Witcher is a must have rpg for any pc gamer who likes rpg's.

Hellgate? Horrible.