Xbox 360 controller is taking too much power!

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#1 inmate85
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I have a 360 pc controller to play game. My PSU just burned recently because of this. It just shutdown and gone. Perhaps overheating. Just bought a new Corsair PSU 650w; however it is happening again. Playing Halo 2 and Gear of War will just shut the computer down. I think the PSU is overheating, but this is a 650w. I also think the controller is taking too much power. What is your opinion?
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#2 lordlunch2
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no. Its not the controller at any way possible what-so-ever. Odds are it was just the PSU going bad. If something were draining too much power you system would simply give you a blue screen and shut down to prevent such a thing. Corsair is a pretty good brand so it shouldn't go out as easily.
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#3 MaoTheChimp
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no. Its not the controller at any way possible what-so-ever. Odds are it was just the PSU going bad. If something were draining too much power you system would simply give you a blue screen and shut down to prevent such a thing. Corsair is a pretty good brand so it shouldn't go out as easily.lordlunch2

Tripping the OCP or OVP wouldn't cause a BSOD; the system will simply lose power. I'm guessing this isn't the case though, as a good 650W unit should easily be able to handle any single card system on the market today while having ample headroom.

I couldn't discern if the OP's old PSU is still functional, as his post isn't detailed enough on the problem and the condition of his old supply. Assuming it still works and exhibits the same issue seen on the new PSU (powering down after some gameplay), I'd guess that a component is overheating in his system and tripping the thermal protection, causing the shut-down.

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#4 hrah
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out of curiosity, how many things do you have connected to the new PSU?

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#5 swehunt
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[QUOTE="inmate85"]I have a 360 pc controller to play game. My PSU just burned recently because of this. It just shutdown and gone. Perhaps overheating. Just bought a new Corsair PSU 650w; however it is happening again. Playing Halo 2 and Gear of War will just shut the computer down. I think the PSU is overheating, but this is a 650w. I also think the controller is taking too much power. What is your opinion?

What are you running? That is one of the best 650w (guess youre meaning the TX650?) PSU's made to this date, if youre not running an Crossfire or SLI (like CF'ed HD5870 or SLI gtx4xx cards) settup with the best/most powerhungry hardware out yet i find it very unlikly to be the problem. Yes, PSU's do loose efficiency if they get hot but that is one sturdy PSU that have very good efficency even if it's near it's melting point. An USB unit have a limmit of how much mW what they can draw, almost any PSU weak or strong can provide plenty of power on 5v since not many things in a modern PC use it, (Basicly just old HDD's and USB, some really old MB's did take 5v also) it's no impossible but unlikely to overload the 5v rail. If youre not using like 15 usb units this will not be the problem as the power from your amp is plenty. / Your problem can be because of a PSU failure even if it's a very unlikely scenario since you had the same problem with the old one. I'd recomend your running a stresstest of the CPU and/or the ram such as Prime95, and using furmark to load the GPU, using a temp program would tell the temps before it possibly shut down. I'm leaning on that this is some kind of driver fault with the controller if this only occur when you play games with the ontroller, but without a BSOD (you didn't mention that part but your saying that it "will just shut the computer down" does not include a blue screen of death rigth?) One possibly problem is your controller, if the PC dies when you plug it it there may be a short in it.
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#6 inmate85
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"Tripping the OCP or OVP wouldn't cause a BSOD." What are the acronyms. I have i7 920 with a TRUE heatsink with 120 fan Harddrive DVD/rom burner GTX 260 graphic with RAD-T2 GTX that I just bought with 2 fans One 90mm fan and 120mm fan in the back Brand New Corsair 650w from newegg I just bought. Scaring me with the shutdown.
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#7 inmate85
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I ran FurMark and can see my graphic slowly heating. I open my case too. Something is making my comp shutdown. When it shuts down, I can't turn it on right away. I had to wait.
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#8 swehunt
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[QUOTE="inmate85"]I ran FurMark and can see my graphic slowly heating. I open my case too. Something is making my comp shutdown. When it shuts down, I can't turn it on right away. I had to wait.

Then my guess something is overheating, can you explaing slowly heating? Just one 90mm intake and one 120mm exhaust migth be to little for such a settup, how much are your temps up in? As i said before run a test that load many things at the same time (prime can load the CPU and ram, furmark can be run simultanious to give a wattage peak.) check ALL temps. If you have a faliure, start test one and one thing untill you find the problem. You have to use the osrams razor (cutting of ewrything until you get down to the basic stuff) this is the proper way to find out the real problem. I think we can exclude the PSU as a likely problem, it's brand new and worked when it left the factory and you have already had the same problem with another PSU. And with the little info you got us "When it shuts down, I can't turn it on right away. I had to wait. " and "Just bought a new Corsair PSU 650w; however it is happening again" make me think the PSU isnt the real problem. "One 90mm fan and 120mm fan in the back" This make me wounder how good is the airflow from your fans are?, with a gtx260 and a i7 920 i would use better cooling. But to make sure this really is your problem you need to find out what the maximum temps are, with low airflow you really have to stress the whole PC to find out as the diffrent hardware use the same box to cool them down. The maximum tems of the CPU should be like ~70c and the maximum GPU temp should be ~85, with thoose temps (witch is to high.) you should not having a problem with the auto shutdown caused by temps. Recomended temps are alot lower but you would not have problems in thoose temps. If your temps is higher i would reaply the CPU with new termalpaste and find some better (higher airflow ) fans along with filling some spare fanplace you have on the case.
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#9 inmate85
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[QUOTE="swehunt"][QUOTE="inmate85"]I ran FurMark and can see my graphic slowly heating. I open my case too. Something is making my comp shutdown. When it shuts down, I can't turn it on right away. I had to wait.

Then my guess something is overheating, can you explaing slowly heating? Just one 90mm intake and one 120mm exhaust migth be to little for such a settup, how much are your temps up in? As i said before run a test that load many things at the same time (prime can load the CPU and ram, furmark can be run simultanious to give a wattage peak.) check ALL temps. If you have a faliure, start test one and one thing untill you find the problem. You have to use the osrams razor (cutting of ewrything until you get down to the basic stuff) this is the proper way to find out the real problem. I think we can exclude the PSU as a likely problem, it's brand new and worked when it left the factory and you have already had the same problem with another PSU. And with the little info you got us "When it shuts down, I can't turn it on right away. I had to wait. " and "Just bought a new Corsair PSU 650w; however it is happening again" make me think the PSU isnt the real problem. "One 90mm fan and 120mm fan in the back" This make me wounder how good is the airflow from your fans are?, with a gtx260 and a i7 920 i would use better cooling. But to make sure this really is your problem you need to find out what the maximum temps are, with low airflow you really have to stress the whole PC to find out as the diffrent hardware use the same box to cool them down. The maximum tems of the CPU should be like ~70c and the maximum GPU temp should be ~85, with thoose temps (witch is to high.) you should not having a problem with the auto shutdown caused by temps. Recomended temps are alot lower but you would not have problems in thoose temps. If your temps is higher i would reaply the CPU with new termalpaste and find some better (higher airflow ) fans along with filling some spare fanplace you have on the case.

My CPU is too good with the TRUE heatsink. I dont' think it will overheat. Well as I running my Furmark, I can see the temp of my gpu slowly heating up. How long should I run it?
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#10 swehunt
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[QUOTE="inmate85"] My CPU is too good with the TRUE heatsink. I dont' think it will overheat. Well as I running my Furmark, I can see the temp of my gpu slowly heating up. How long should I run it?

To what good is it to have an awsome heatsink when all air it sucks has high temps? - Your heasink don't matter if it is using very hot air from the inside of your case! You should run it till the temps do not rise anymore, run it a half hour or so and keep the sidepanel on. - Because that is how you would have the PC normally anyhow?
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#11 inmate85
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[QUOTE="swehunt"][QUOTE="inmate85"] My CPU is too good with the TRUE heatsink. I dont' think it will overheat. Well as I running my Furmark, I can see the temp of my gpu slowly heating up. How long should I run it?

To what good is it to have an awsome heatsink when all air it sucks has high temps? - Your heasink don't matter if it is using very hot air from the inside of your case! You should run it till the temps do not rise anymore, run it a half hour or so and keep the sidepanel on. - Because that is how you would have the PC normally anyhow?

If it is unstable, that's why the temp move up so fast right? That could be the case's airflow too.
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#12 swehunt
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[QUOTE="swehunt"][QUOTE="inmate85"] My CPU is too good with the TRUE heatsink. I dont' think it will overheat. Well as I running my Furmark, I can see the temp of my gpu slowly heating up. How long should I run it?inmate85
To what good is it to have an awsome heatsink when all air it sucks has high temps? - Your heasink don't matter if it is using very hot air from the inside of your case! You should run it till the temps do not rise anymore, run it a half hour or so and keep the sidepanel on. - Because that is how you would have the PC normally anyhow?

If it is unstable, that's why the temp move up so fast right? That could be the case's airflow too.

Nah, im saying the temps migth be why it is unstable not the other way around. ;)

Yes, if the airflow is bad some hot air will remain inside and do not exhaust as it is intended to do, as the airpressure want's to level out new cold air should be sipping/be pushed (either being sucked by the underpreassure or pushed by a fan to the inside) in and that do not happen with to little airflow and that is why to little airflow can heat up all hardware inside your case.

Don't worry bout it rising to fast, that is perfectly normal as many chip do reach *almost (*this is partly why you should run it for a time as full temps do not occur directly, but it may heat up a bit over time) their temperature very fast but heatsinks (atached to the chip.) may struggle to deliver the correct/adeqvate cooling because a) the ambient temperature is to high (as in bad airflow or a very hot climate/high room temperatures) b) the cooling solution do not provide the cooling needed for the fitted chip. (yeah, some graphic cards have bad cooling, but this is very unusual as many modern Graphic PU's can handle heat to even 120c before the damage is there, but they do often auto shut down looong before that.)

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#13 inmate85
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BECAUSE OF ALL YOUR COMMENTS, I WENT AHEAD AND USED PRIME95 AND FURMARK. YUP MY GPU UNSTABLE BECAUSE OF HAVING NO FAN FROM THE OUTSIDE. I WENT AND ADDED A FAN ON THE SIDE PANEL. USING FURMARK IT WAS AT 76C FOR 2 HOURS. SO IT IS THE AIRFLOW.
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#14 MaxGamer
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Two 1.5v batteries can power a wireless 360 controller. There's no way it's effecting your system's power.

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BECAUSE OF ALL YOUR COMMENTS, I WENT AHEAD AND USED PRIME95 AND FURMARK. YUP MY GPU UNSTABLE BECAUSE OF HAVING NO FAN FROM THE OUTSIDE. I WENT AND ADDED A FAN ON THE SIDE PANEL. USING FURMARK IT WAS AT 76C FOR 2 HOURS. SO IT IS THE AIRFLOW.inmate85

what case are you using?

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#16 inmate85
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I have a Raidmax case. Never every buy those, they suck!!!