Yahtzee reviews Perseus Mandate.

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#1 JP_Russell
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http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/zeropunctuation/2675-Zero-Punctuation-F-E-A-R-Perseus-Mandate

This is the first time I've disagreed with Yahtzee a lot in a review. While I agree simply from playing the demo that Perseus Mandate doesn't look very good, it's not for the reasons he states. He says the game is just like the original, but this couldn't be farther from the truth in my eyes. Poor voice-acting, bad level design, revamped difficulty (if they wanted to make the game more difficult they could have just added a higher difficulty or two), what appear to be downgraded graphics, and various other things that just generally speak of the different developer's lower competence.

Granted, he apparently hated the first game as well, while I loved it. For whatever reason, he is apparently bored by FEAR's gunplay, which I found to be its strong point. I feel like he hated on PM for mostly the wrong reasons.

Anyway, those are my thoughts. As usual, the review was funny, though less so than most. What are your thoughts?

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#2 DarkRecruit
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He should review a big hyped game like Crysis or something.
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IGN and GS both gave it a 5 something
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http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/zeropunctuation/2675-Zero-Punctuation-F-E-A-R-Perseus-Mandate

This is the first time I've disagreed with Yahtzee a lot in a review. While I agree simply from playing the demo that Perseus Mandate doesn't look very good, it's not for the reasons he states. He says the game is just like the original, but this couldn't be farther from the truth in my eyes. Poor voice-acting, bad level design, revamped difficulty (if they wanted to make the game more difficult they could have just added a higher difficulty or two), what appear to be downgraded graphics, and various other things that just generally speak of the different developer's lower competence.

Granted, he apparently hated the first game as well, while I loved it. For whatever reason, he is apparently bored by FEAR's gunplay, which I found to be its strong point. I feel like he hated on PM for mostly the wrong reasons.

Anyway, those are my thoughts. As usual, the review was funny, though less so than most. What are your thoughts?

JP_Russell

I agree with him completely. I couldn't finish the original FEAR because it was too boring. I couldn't imagine the expansion being any different.

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#5 giantraddish
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I think it's important to acknowlege that the point of Yahtzee's game reviews is to be funny and entertaining. It's not to review video games. If you start analyzing the fairness, or accuracy, or thoroughness of Yahtzee's reviews you are missing the point. They are there for fun. We laugh because they point out the stupidity in gaming, our own stupidity in playing games, and because he's obnoxious and swears a lot in an english accent which we associate with reserved politeness.

Is it entertaining? Absolutely. Are they good game reviews? Hell no.

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#6 JP_Russell
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I think it's important to acknowlege that the point of Yahtzee's game reviews is to be funny and entertaining. It's not to review video games. If you start analyzing the fairness, or accuracy, or thoroughness of Yahtzee's reviews you are missing the point. They are there for fun. We laugh because they point out the stupidity in gaming, our own stupidity in playing games, and because he's obnoxious and swears a lot in an english accent which we associate with reserved politeness.

Is it entertaining? Absolutely. Are they good game reviews? Hell no.

giantraddish

I disagree. I know the main point and attraction for it is the humor, but he isn't just making his opinion about the game up.No, they're not conclusive reviews, but he does offer his opinion on different aspects, mentioning what he likes and dislikes. I'm saying I don't agree with him in many ways this time.

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#7 GodLovesDead
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Absolutely. Are they good game reviews? Hell no.

giantraddish

I disagree. He's been spot on with every review so far.

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I hate this guy, he isn't even funny. He bashes every good game that comes out as a joke and just slams them with dopey british humor.
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He said he liked the AI and gunplay, just didn't like how repetetive it was. He liked the game simply because it was interesting enough to through it, but overall, it's not that "great".

**** Perseus Mandate, Project Origin is what's gonna own.

what the hell kinda name is perseus mandate anyway?

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I hate this guy, he isn't even funny. He bashes every good game that comes out as a joke and just slams them with dopey british humor.Dopemonk736

Sorry I don't ussualy flame or bash people so I'll use Yahtzee's own quote to do it for me.."Your just pants on head retarded".

Funny is subjective but really with his viewership numbers and popularity it's you Dope that has a poor sense of humor if you can't see the creative way in which Yahzee melds gaming history and scathing direct in your face observations about gaming today. I personally enjoy his critisisms and his brand of humor is far from dopey or typically British. "If you don't like Yahzee your just stupid" lol paraphrase there.

I really wish he'd do Crysis as well because I'd love to hear him tear it a new one so I can point to it and let the thinkies who have uber graphics blinders on hear more elequently than I can express what a dreadfully flat game it is.

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#11 ASK_Story
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Here's a fair review from a guy who never played previous FEARs.

http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/launchreview.asp?reviewid=823836

He gave it a high 7, close to a 8. So it's a good game regardless. If people played the original and exp. pack to death, then PM won't probably offer much. But FEAR fans will like it no matter what.

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Dude he says crap aboutmost of the games he reviews. It's just what he does and it is funny. I never considered taking his reviews too seriously.
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Here's a fair review from a guy who never played previous FEARs.

http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/launchreview.asp?reviewid=823836

He gave it a high 7, close to a 8. So it's a good game regardless. If people played the original and exp. pack to death, then PM won't probably offer much. But FEAR fans will like it no matter what.

ASK_Story

That review is rather poor in my opinion. Illogical and irrational conclusions left and right.

"It's called a 'stand-alone expansion pack' for the principle reason that it doesn't need any previous installations of a F.E.A.R. title to be present on your machine, which naturally begs the question as to why it is referred to as any kind of expansion pack at all."

...This sentence is so screwy I was sure I read it wrong at first. In one sentence, he contradicts himself with two different mentalities. He acknowledges that it doesn't need the original game to be played because it's a standalone expansion, then questions why it is not considered a sequel presumably because he thinks that games not needing the original to be played must be sequels, even though he just explained otherwise.

"In other words, why isn't it just considered a sequel to the original F.E.A.R. game?"

1. Standalone. Expansion. Pack. Durka, durka.
2. Because it's hardly related to the preceding FEAR games, which could only remain unknown if you have never played them.

"You've probably inferred from the above that I never played any preceding F.E.A.R. game(s), and you're right... ...This admittedly could be considered a detriment to reviewing what amounts to a sequel..."

It could if it did indeed amount to a sequel, but it doesn't, which you don't know because you haven't played the original. Thus does the act of not playing the original prove the detrimentality of itself, by itself.

"...but I contend that someone that never saw the first Shrek could still credibly and accurately state that the third in the series is a completely terrible movie. If you disagree (not about Shrek, mind you, but about whether or note I can possibly have anything pertinent to share about Perseus Mandate), look up in the upper right corner of this window for a red box with a white X in it. Click on it."

Hey, what can I say, I was bored.

"I shot the rats instead. What an immensely gratifying mist of blood..."

"The only part of the overall package that I could have done without was the language. Grenades are one thing - my kid (who is just vindictive enough to enjoy watching Daddy get blown up over and over and over...) is used to that kind of stuff. The rampant F-bombs, on the other hand, well... that gets old. Yes, there's a Mature 17+ label right on the box, so it's not like I wasn't warned. It's just that it doesn't add much to the game, in my opinion, and really isn't necessary."

So, in his opinion, explicit language >>> some of the most exorbitant gore you'll ever see in a game. Right.

Anyway, there were various other little things about the review I didn't like, but those were the major things. Getting away from those criticisms, his review and score are from someone who hasn't played the original games, which means only a small target audience is going to be in agreement with him. Even then, I find it hard to believe many even of that audience would agree with him due to the game havinglow production values out the ass, leaving what would be a poor impression upon them.

I personally will get the game anyway eventually because I was mildly entertained by the demo, it's just that it was a very watered-down and convoluted kind of entertained from FEAR and Extraction Point. I'd be surprised if I considered it more than a 6.5 by Gamespot's rating system.

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Dude he says crap aboutmost of the games he reviews. It's just what he does and it is funny. I never considered taking his reviews too seriously.Citan76

I'm not disagreeing with his opinion that the game is bad, I'm disagreeing with his opinion as to why.

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[QUOTE="ASK_Story"]

Here's a fair review from a guy who never played previous FEARs.

http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/launchreview.asp?reviewid=823836

He gave it a high 7, close to a 8. So it's a good game regardless. If people played the original and exp. pack to death, then PM won't probably offer much. But FEAR fans will like it no matter what.

TOO MUCH TIME ON MY HANDS_Russell

That review is rather poor in my opinion. Illogical and irrational conclusions left and right.

"It's called a 'stand-alone expansion pack' for the principle reason that it doesn't need any previous installations of a F.E.A.R. title to be present on your machine, which naturally begs the question as to why it is referred to as any kind of expansion pack at all."

...This sentence is so screwy I was sure I read it wrong at first. In one sentence, he contradicts himself with two different mentalities. He acknowledges that it doesn't need the original game to be played because it's a standalone expansion, then questions why it is not considered a sequel presumably because he thinks that games not needing the original to be played must be sequels, even though he just explained otherwise.

"In other words, why isn't it just considered a sequel to the original F.E.A.R. game?"

1. Standalone. Expansion. Pack. Durka, durka.
2. Because it's hardly related to the preceding FEAR games, which could only remain unknown if you have never played them.

"You've probably inferred from the above that I never played any preceding F.E.A.R. game(s), and you're right... ...This admittedly could be considered a detriment to reviewing what amounts to a sequel..."

It could if it did indeed amount to a sequel, but it doesn't, which you don't know because you haven't played the original. Thus does the act of not playing the original prove the detrimentality of itself, by itself.

"...but I contend that someone that never saw the first Shrek could still credibly and accurately state that the third in the series is a completely terrible movie. If you disagree (not about Shrek, mind you, but about whether or note I can possibly have anything pertinent to share about Perseus Mandate), look up in the upper right corner of this window for a red box with a white X in it. Click on it."

Hey, what can I say, I was bored.

"I shot the rats instead. What an immensely gratifying mist of blood..."

"The only part of the overall package that I could have done without was the language. Grenades are one thing - my kid (who is just vindictive enough to enjoy watching Daddy get blown up over and over and over...) is used to that kind of stuff. The rampant F-bombs, on the other hand, well... that gets old. Yes, there's a Mature 17+ label right on the box, so it's not like I wasn't warned. It's just that it doesn't add much to the game, in my opinion, and really isn't necessary."

So, in his opinion, explicit language >>> some of the most exorbitant gore you'll ever see in a game. Right.

Anyway, there were various other little things about the review I didn't like, but those were the major things. Getting away from those criticisms, his review and score are from someone who hasn't played the original games, which means only a small target audience is going to be in agreement with him. Even then, I find it hard to believe many even of that audience would agree with him due to the game havinglow production values out the ass, leaving what would be a poor impression upon them.

I personally will get the game anyway eventually because I was mildly entertained by the demo, it's just that it was a very watered-down and convoluted kind of entertained from FEAR and Extraction Point. I'd be surprised if I considered it more than a 6.5 by Gamespot's rating system.