Yay Tauren Paladins!

So the 3rd expansion Cataclysm has been anounced and along with it comes new class and race mixtures, my favorite being Tauren Paladins. So do you think it will be nice to see more than just Blood Elves being Paladins?

I hope we see Blood Elf Shawmans.

Here is the one change I want that would bring me back to WoW: A pay per day or pay per minute plan...or something more reasonable for someone who might only play the game for a few hours sometimes in a given month. I was hoping Aion would bring that pricing model (which they use elsewhere) to the USA, but for some reason they didn't and thus I will not be playing that game either. I have to admit some of the stuff I read about the expansion sounds cool, but I went back a little before the release of WotLK (after having quit even before the first expansion was out) and it didn't take long before I wasn't playing the game often enough to justify $15 a month. In fact, I only got to around level 75 I think. I think $15 a month is reasonable enough for unlimited play, with that being the standard for just about every MMORPG, but for me at this point, it's like paying $15 for an all-you-can-eat buffet and then just getting a burger.SpaceMoose

mayaswell allow anything to go anything at this point, its not like the classes are even unique anymore.Birdy09

Yeah.

Pre-BC WoW will still be the best.

[QUOTE="Birdy09"]mayaswell allow anything to go anything at this point, its not like the classes are even unique anymore.Lord_Nas3k

Yeah.

Pre-BC WoW will still be the best.

[QUOTE="Birdy09"]mayaswell allow anything to go anything at this point, its not like the classes are even unique anymore.Lord_Nas3k

Yeah.

Pre-BC WoW will still be the best.

Indeed.

Who cared about class balance, fast honor and friggin casuals, those days ruled.

Wasting 10 hours a day in the 1st Alliance base bunker as a gnome mage throwing random fireballs at hordies with a priest that mind controlled people and threw them down the bridge was far beyond epic.

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[QUOTE="Birdy09"]mayaswell allow anything to go anything at this point, its not like the classes are even unique anymore.the_ChEeSe_mAn2

Yeah.

Pre-BC WoW will still be the best.

Human hunters are already on the Class/Race list for Cataclysm.

Also, why are Druids available to FOUR races now? They're were supposed to be the least racial diverse class.

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[QUOTE="Birdy09"]mayaswell allow anything to go anything at this point, its not like the classes are even unique anymore.the_ChEeSe_mAn2

Yeah.

Pre-BC WoW will still be the best.

Honestly, let's just have Undead paladins, Night Elf mages, Blood Elf druids, and Draenei warlocks. At this point, class combinations are getting ridiculously silly.

Oh, and here's the obligatory "why is this thread not in the sticky?" line: Why is this thread not in the sticky?

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/cataclysm/features/

Take a good look the Race/Clazz combinations...

[QUOTE="Lord_Nas3k"]

[QUOTE="Birdy09"]mayaswell allow anything to go anything at this point, its not like the classes are even unique anymore.the_ChEeSe_mAn2

Yeah.

Pre-BC WoW will still be the best.

Why would a Human not be able to be a Hunter? That change made perfect sense. Same with Gnome Priests and tbh even Tauren Paladins. The Druid thing maybe shouldn't have changed but really who's to say those other races can't be Druids? I play a Druid myself but I don't see what the big deal is. Same with Goblins as Deathknights. I mean sure you might think because of the way they look they don't suit it, but the Deathknight is supposed to be someone strong enough and so chosen to become one. Regardless of race.

[QUOTE="SpaceMoose"]Here is the one change I want that would bring me back to WoW: A pay per day or pay per minute plan...or something more reasonable for someone who might only play the game for a few hours sometimes in a given month. I was hoping Aion would bring that pricing model (which they use elsewhere) to the USA, but for some reason they didn't and thus I will not be playing that game either. I have to admit some of the stuff I read about the expansion sounds cool, but I went back a little before the release of WotLK (after having quit even before the first expansion was out) and it didn't take long before I wasn't playing the game often enough to justify $15 a month. In fact, I only got to around level 75 I think. I think $15 a month is reasonable enough for unlimited play, with that being the standard for just about every MMORPG, but for me at this point, it's like paying $15 for an all-you-can-eat buffet and then just getting a burger.Swiftstrike5

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/cataclysm/features/

Take a good look the Race/Clazz combinations...

Lord_Nas3k

So the 3rd expansion Cataclysm has been anounced and along with it comes new class and race mixtures, my favorite being Tauren Paladins. So do you think it will be nice to see more than just Blood Elves being Paladins?

Atomic_Bacon

[QUOTE="SpaceMoose"]Here is the one change I want that would bring me back to WoW: A pay per day or pay per minute plan...or something more reasonable for someone who might only play the game for a few hours sometimes in a given month. I was hoping Aion would bring that pricing model (which they use elsewhere) to the USA, but for some reason they didn't and thus I will not be playing that game either. G013M

What I meant was that you pay for a certain number of hours, but playing for 65 minutes deducts just that and not 2 hours. (I know I worded it kind of poorly.) This is, in fact, the system that Aion uses in some other territories, if I understood it correctly.

SpaceMoose

mayaswell allow anything to go anything at this point, its not like the classes are even unique anymore.Birdy09

This

The latest patch just makes me glad I left WoW while it was just starting to decline. Now they're acting outright desperate to keep their casual playerbase (no, I wasn't a 40-man raider, I was stereotype casual). Or... maybe they're forcing the decline so that people who like the changes will stay and the rest will go to their new MMO. *tinfoil hat*

[QUOTE="G013M"][QUOTE="SpaceMoose"]Here is the one change I want that would bring me back to WoW: A pay per day or pay per minute plan...or something more reasonable for someone who might only play the game for a few hours sometimes in a given month. I was hoping Aion would bring that pricing model (which they use elsewhere) to the USA, but for some reason they didn't and thus I will not be playing that game either. SpaceMoose

Isn't AION an asian based MMO? I think that's one of the major persuasions in making the subscriptions for that game the way they are.-Unreal-

Why would a Human not be able to be a Hunter? That change made perfect sense. Same with Gnome Priests and tbh even Tauren Paladins. The Druid thing maybe shouldn't have changed but really who's to say those other races can't be Druids? I play a Druid myself but I don't see what the big deal is. Same with Goblins as Deathknights. I mean sure you might think because of the way they look they don't suit it, but the Deathknight is supposed to be someone strong enough and so chosen to become one. Regardless of race.

-Unreal-

[QUOTE="-Unreal-"]

Why would a Human not be able to be a Hunter? That change made perfect sense. Same with Gnome Priests and tbh even Tauren Paladins. The Druid thing maybe shouldn't have changed but really who's to say those other races can't be Druids? I play a Druid myself but I don't see what the big deal is. Same with Goblins as Deathknights. I mean sure you might think because of the way they look they don't suit it, but the Deathknight is supposed to be someone strong enough and so chosen to become one. Regardless of race.

KHAndAnime

Meh same old same old . I hope WOW stayed hard and not foruber casuals . I quit the game a month ago after realizing that theyre gonna give away literally t8.5 gaer and found no point in grinding Ulduar anymore as it was useless and that the new instance came out with better **** what is the actual point of the game if ure playing in a circle all the time. Yes its fun but unless ure increadibly stupid to keep paying when 1. you dont own **** 2. your efforts and time wasted on gear will go to ****s after the next patch etc comes out so that the casuals can keep up...

I don't see where it says in the Warcraft rule book for writing lore that no other race than Night Elves and Tauren can be Druids.

-Unreal-

I'm pretty sure it's in here...somewhere. :P

Seriously, though, you're asking about the wrong cl@ss/race combination (although, I am still waiting for the gnome druid announcement). The real question should be about Night Elf mages. If I recall, Night Elves used to practice magic...but when they were kicked out for using the infernal arts, they became the High (or, as they were later called, Blood) Elves. I'd go into another reason why Night Elves shouldn't be mages...but I don't know how to use spoiler tags (and I'm not sure who all is reading this that has played sufficiently through The Frozen Throne).

Oh, and Blizzard themselves stated why they didn't want gnome priests. They didn't want any single race to be able to become completely self-sufficient. Now, with these new race/cl@ss combos, you can see successful all-gnome raids/guilds.

Meh same old same old . I hope WOW stayed hard and not foruber casuals . I quit the game a month ago after realizing that theyre gonna give away literally t8.5 gaer and found no point in grinding Ulduar anymore as it was useless and that the new instance came out with better **** what is the actual point of the game if ure playing in a circle all the time. Yes its fun but unless ure increadibly stupid to keep paying when 1. you dont own **** 2. your efforts and time wasted on gear will go to ****s after the next patch etc comes out so that the casuals can keep up...

jjbeamerboy

The thing people don't seem to realise though is that Cataclysm, like the other two expansions is part of the on-going story. The people writing the story are able to make it go in the direction they choose. If you say "yeah but the druids swore to never allow this race into their crew" the story can adapt. It's not always going to go how you want it. Too many people seem to want to write the story themselves, and I guess that can be a natural thing when you have so many people that like a good background in a game series.

Like I said, there's no set of rules they must follow for writing what happens next. Just because you don't like seeing a Tauren in Paladin armor doesn't mean it's "not supposed to happen that way."

Personally, I would never play WoW again, even for this Expansion, but i love how everyone is like 'preBC would always be better', and 'Tauren Paladins are not lore-like' or the whole goblin talk. Seriously, guys, this is the best Lore update Blizzard has offered this side of the MMO. Goblins back with horde? perfect. Worgens? makes sense cause its not like they completely lost sanity. Deathwing at the top of this makes it just plain amazing. Im glad they chose to get most of the lore from Warcraft 2/1, as thats where everything was truely amazing. Tauren Paladins are weird, but this is Deathwing we are talking about, not some low life like Illidan (Sorry, i still think he wasn't exactly "Epic Boss" material).

anyway, anyone with a blind eye could predict such madness as Cataclysm coming out. (i actually did in another thread, but i said it was going to be Warcraft: Maelstrom. pretty close i guess) I recommend people look into this as biggest 'lore update' around.

Although, i would say the Night Elf Mage is a little sticky here, but at this point of the story there is not much worry from Sargeras.

Meh same old same old . I hope WOW stayed hard and not foruber casuals . I quit the game a month ago after realizing that theyre gonna give away literally t8.5 gaer and found no point in grinding Ulduar anymore as it was useless and that the new instance came out with better **** what is the actual point of the game if ure playing in a circle all the time. Yes its fun but unless ure increadibly stupid to keep paying when 1. you dont own **** 2. your efforts and time wasted on gear will go to ****s after the next patch etc comes out so that the casuals can keep up...

jjbeamerboy

Female goblins look creepy.

I don't like the Tauren Paladins or the Blood Elf warriors, and a little iffy on Troll Druids, but everything else I am happy about.

Only alliance should have paladins and only horde should have shamans. The thought of tauren going paladin just makes my brain hurt. All the little kiddies will jump onto horde being cows with power ranger armor.

Quite honestly, I think Blizzard started to cave to the whiners when they gave Horde Paladins, and Alliance Shamans. They've been increasingly doing it since.zomglolcats

[QUOTE="-Unreal-"]

I don't see where it says in the Warcraft rule book for writing lore that no other race than Night Elves and Tauren can be Druids.

Ein-7919

I'm pretty sure it's in here...somewhere. :P

Seriously, though, you're asking about the wrong cl@ss/race combination (although, I am still waiting for the gnome druid announcement). The real question should be about Night Elf mages. If I recall, Night Elves used to practice magic...but when they were kicked out for using the infernal arts, they became the High (or, as they were later called, Blood) Elves. I'd go into another reason why Night Elves shouldn't be mages...but I don't know how to use spoiler tags (and I'm not sure who all is reading this that has played sufficiently through The Frozen Throne).

Oh, and Blizzard themselves stated why they didn't want gnome priests. They didn't want any single race to be able to become completely self-sufficient. Now, with these new race/cl@ss combos, you can see successful all-gnome raids/guilds.

I dont think thats true...I played in a all human guild before that was completly self sufficient.

I dont think thats true...I played in a all human guild before that was completly self sufficient.

IZoMBiEI

So...no druids, hunters, or shaman, eh? I don't know, it sounds like it'd be incredibly difficult to run many of the late-game instances/raids/heroics without at least two of those classes.

Yay... a race I actually care to play as a druid... Worgen!

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I dont think thats true...I played in a all human guild before that was completly self sufficient.

So...no druids, hunters, or shaman, eh? I don't know, it sounds like it'd be incredibly difficult to run many of the late-game instances/raids/heroics without at least two of those classes.

gnomes dont have them either..yet youre saying they would be self sufficient if blizzard added priests. hunters, druids and shamans arent needed to run instances.IZoMBiEI

Late game, those classes are incredibly difficult to replace. While not necessary (which I never said), they turn an iincredibly difficult (if not improbable) instance/raid/heroic into merely a challenging one.

As for gnomes not having hunters, druids, or shaman, I never said that they would be completely self-sufficient with just priests. I said that Blizzard stated that they did not want to give gnomes priests as that would defeat Blizzard's agenda of having an alliance of races working together. All that I have said on this matter is what Blizzard themselves have said regarding gnome healers.

Prior to Cataclysm: all-gnome guild = joke. Post-Cataclysm: all-gnome guild = serious business. :P

[QUOTE="IZoMBiEI"]

gnomes dont have them either..yet youre saying they would be self sufficient if blizzard added priests. hunters, druids and shamans arent needed to run instances.

Late game, those classes are incredibly difficult to replace. While not necessary (which I never said), they turn an iincredibly difficult (if not improbable) instance/raid/heroic into merely a challenging one.

As for gnomes not having hunters, druids, or shaman, I never said that they would be completely self-sufficient with just priests. I said that Blizzard stated that they did not want to give gnomes priests as that would defeat Blizzard's agenda of having an alliance of races working together. All that I have said on this matter is what Blizzard themselves have said regarding gnome healers.

Prior to Cataclysm: all-gnome guild = joke. Post-Cataclysm: all-gnome guild = serious business. :P