Zotac vs Evga GTx 580?

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#1 Alienware_fan
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Which one is a better deal? Zotac for $399($50 mail in rebate) or evga for $469?

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#2 C_Rule
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Thought you already had your 580s? You're confusing, bro... Which models are you referring to?
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#3 Alienware_fan
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Thought you already had your 580s? You're confusing, bro... Which models are you referring to?C_Rule
I sold the asus one, for $440, it was too big to fit in my case.

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#4 Alienware_fan
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Thought you already had your 580s? You're confusing, bro... Which models are you referring to?C_Rule
the nonoverclocked/stock models.

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#5 C_Rule
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You shouldn't even be putting cards like that in an Alienware case, Alienware use crap cases. Get a new one. What are the model names of the two 580s you are comparing? Both Zotac and EVGA make multiple 580s.
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#6 Alienware_fan
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http://canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=43_557_559&item_id=034909

or

http://canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=43_557_559&item_id=034796

What models are they?

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#7 Alienware_fan
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You shouldn't even be putting cards like that in an Alienware case, Alienware use crap cases. Get a new one. What are the model names of the two 580s you are comparing? Both Zotac and EVGA make multiple 580s.C_Rule
The one I have looks really cool and I have an a.c so I dont have to worry about heat issues.

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#8 V4LENT1NE
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Rather then sell the case and get a better one you sold the card?! What are you doing man just get a new case, Alienware ones suck anyway for cooling. If the cards are tight as hell they will probably overheat all the time in SLI with that case. You gotta stop buying and selling stuff so fast your gonna loose money like crazy.
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#9 Alienware_fan
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Rather then sell the case and get a better one you sold the card?! What are you doing man just get a new case, Alienware ones suck anyway for cooling. If the cards are tight as hell they will probably overheat all the time in SLI with that case. You gotta stop buying and selling stuff so fast your gonna loose money like crazy.V4LENT1NE
If I buy a new case I will have to buy a new psu, motherboard, os, cpu cooler and who knows what else.

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[QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"]Rather then sell the case and get a better one you sold the card?! What are you doing man just get a new case, Alienware ones suck anyway for cooling. If the cards are tight as hell they will probably overheat all the time in SLI with that case. You gotta stop buying and selling stuff so fast your gonna loose money like crazy.Alienware_fan

If I buy a new case I will have to buy a new psu, motherboard, cpu cooler and who knows what else.

Why would you have to buy all that stuff? Can you not just transfer the motherboard over like normal or is the alienware motherboard different?
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#11 Alienware_fan
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[QUOTE="Alienware_fan"]

[QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"]Rather then sell the case and get a better one you sold the card?! What are you doing man just get a new case, Alienware ones suck anyway for cooling. If the cards are tight as hell they will probably overheat all the time in SLI with that case. You gotta stop buying and selling stuff so fast your gonna loose money like crazy.V4LENT1NE

If I buy a new case I will have to buy a new psu, motherboard, cpu cooler and who knows what else.

Why would you have to buy all that stuff? Can you not just transfer the motherboard over like normal or is the alienware motherboard different?

Different.

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#12 V4LENT1NE
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[QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"][QUOTE="Alienware_fan"]If I buy a new case I will have to buy a new psu, motherboard, cpu cooler and who knows what else.

Alienware_fan

Why would you have to buy all that stuff? Can you not just transfer the motherboard over like normal or is the alienware motherboard different?

Different.

Are you sure? How is it different exactly?
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#13 Alienware_fan
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[QUOTE="Alienware_fan"]

[QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"] Why would you have to buy all that stuff? Can you not just transfer the motherboard over like normal or is the alienware motherboard different?V4LENT1NE

Different.

Are you sure? How is it different exactly?

Its shape is unique, and the pins for front pannel are also made for alienware cases only.

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#14 Alienware_fan
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So which card should I buy?

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#15 C_Rule
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Dude seriously needs to just ride out his Alienware, until it's obsolete, which, with CF 5870s, won't be for a long time. And then, start fresh and build a completely new PC. Upgrading this Alienware just sounds like too much hassle. Don't know why you would even need more power than what two 5870s give.
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#16 V4LENT1NE
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Oh **** :O glad I dont have an Alienware, gonna be hard with the 580s then if its a tight fit, even if they have decent coolers on if there isnt much good air gettin in and they are cramped up it may become a problem. Especially if you want to OC the cards.
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#17 Alienware_fan
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The good thing is, If I have warranty and something goes wrong with my system, alienware will change the parts with upgraded ones for free.

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#18 C_Rule
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The good thing is, If I have warranty and something goes wrong with my system, alienware will change the parts with upgraded ones for free.

Alienware_fan
Ummm.... Don't think they're going to replace parts you have added to the system...
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#19 Alienware_fan
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[QUOTE="Alienware_fan"]

The good thing is, If I have warranty and something goes wrong with my system, alienware will change the parts with upgraded ones for free.

C_Rule

Ummm.... Don't think they're going to replace parts you have added to the system...

Thats true.

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#20 C_Rule
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Now children, what have we learnt from this thread?... [spoiler] Stay away from Alienware;) [/spoiler]

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#21 Alienware_fan
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This topic wasnt about alienwares, can anyone answer my question please??

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#22 C_Rule
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Well, they are both reference design, so the only thing to consider is the brand. EVGA are a more respected brand. Not saying Zotac are bad, just EVGA are probably better.
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#23 Alienware_fan
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Well, they are both reference design, so the only thing to consider is the brand. EVGA are a more respected brand. Not saying Zotac are bad, just EVGA are probably better.C_Rule
Is it worth $60 more? From what I have heard they both have life time warranty.

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#24 Iantheone
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I wouldnt say that its worth an extra $60. Its a GTX580, the manufacturers wouldnt really skimp out on something like that.

Its shape is unique, and the pins for front pannel are also made for alienware cases only.

Alienware_fan

What front panel pins? >.>

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#25 C_Rule
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[QUOTE="C_Rule"]You shouldn't even be putting cards like that in an Alienware case, Alienware use crap cases. Get a new one. What are the model names of the two 580s you are comparing? Both Zotac and EVGA make multiple 580s.Alienware_fan

The one I have looks really cool and I have an a.c so I dont have to worry about heat issues.

Not sure how a watercooler on the CPU is going to help your GPUs...
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#26 Alienware_fan
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[QUOTE="Alienware_fan"]

[QUOTE="C_Rule"]You shouldn't even be putting cards like that in an Alienware case, Alienware use crap cases. Get a new one. What are the model names of the two 580s you are comparing? Both Zotac and EVGA make multiple 580s.C_Rule

The one I have looks really cool and I have an a.c so I dont have to worry about heat issues.

Not sure how a watercooler on the CPU is going to help your GPUs...

When did I ever say that?

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#27 C_Rule
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[QUOTE="C_Rule"][QUOTE="Alienware_fan"]The one I have looks really cool and I have an a.c so I dont have to worry about heat issues.

Alienware_fan

Not sure how a watercooler on the CPU is going to help your GPUs...

When did I ever say that?

Oh, you were referring to air conditioning? Still not going to help much, when an Alienware case is more fit for preserving food, than keeping a computer cool.
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[QUOTE="C_Rule"]Well, they are both reference design, so the only thing to consider is the brand. EVGA are a more respected brand. Not saying Zotac are bad, just EVGA are probably better.Alienware_fan

Is it worth $60 more? From what I have heard they both have life time warranty.

Both companies offer a Lifetime Warranty so long as you register the video card within 30 days of purchase. It is up to you if it is worth the extra $60 or not for the EVGA card. I do know that EVGA is considered to have some of the best Customer/Tech support around. Don't know about Zotac since I've never had any of there products. EVGA does have the "Step-Up" program. Which would 90-day window (must register card within 30 days of purchase) to trade in that 580 (if you buy it) for a better gpu only paying the difference of the cost. In other words 50 days later you want a better gpu or Keplar (the next gen of Nvidia gpu's) miraculously gets released you can use the step up program and you only pay the difference of what you paid for your 580 and what the cost of the video card you are trading in for. However, right now the only thing better is a GTX 590 and it is NOT on EVGA's step up list right now. So this will basically be useless for you unless the 590 is added to the list or Keplar is released within 90 days of your purchase.
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[QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"][QUOTE="Alienware_fan"]Different.

Alienware_fan

Are you sure? How is it different exactly?

Its shape is unique, and the pins for front pannel are also made for alienware cases only.

Actually as far as I'm aware they just use the Intel reference motherboards (your probably using: Click). If you want to buy another case then everything inside your rig should fit inside it provided the new case is form factor ATX or E-ATX.

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[QUOTE="C_Rule"]Well, they are both reference design, so the only thing to consider is the brand. EVGA are a more respected brand. Not saying Zotac are bad, just EVGA are probably better.Alienware_fan

Is it worth $60 more? From what I have heard they both have life time warranty.

It's not worth the extra $60 , i have a Zotac gtx580 and it's great . get a zotac and put the money you save for something else .
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#31 Elann2008
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Now children, what have we learnt from this thread?.Stay away from Alienware;)

C_Rule

Man, I didn't think people still fell for that Alienware crap. Oh wait... they're still in business (unfortunately).

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#32 Alienware_fan
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[QUOTE="Alienware_fan"]

[QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"] Are you sure? How is it different exactly?xxLordDavidxx

Its shape is unique, and the pins for front pannel are also made for alienware cases only.

Actually as far as I'm aware they just use the Intel reference motherboards (your probably using: Click). If you want to buy another case then everything inside your rig should fit inside it provided the new case is form factor ATX or E-ATX.

No they uses micro atx boards.

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#33 C_Rule
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[QUOTE="xxLordDavidxx"]

[QUOTE="Alienware_fan"]Its shape is unique, and the pins for front pannel are also made for alienware cases only.

Alienware_fan

Actually as far as I'm aware they just use the Intel reference motherboards (your probably using: Click). If you want to buy another case then everything inside your rig should fit inside it provided the new case is form factor ATX or E-ATX.

No they uses micro atx boards.

Which all cases support.
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[QUOTE="C_Rule"]

Now children, what have we learnt from this thread?.Stay away from Alienware;)

Elann2008

Man, I didn't think people still fell for that Alienware crap. Oh wait... they're still in business (unfortunately).

Well, they make pretty nice laptops.
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I do not understand the concept of replacing two 5870's in CF....
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#38 JonChaoZ
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Why on earth do you need more than two 5870s?

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#39 Alienware_fan
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Why on earth do you need more than two 5870s?

JonChaoZ

I was bored.

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#40 C_Rule
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[QUOTE="JonChaoZ"]

Why on earth do you need more than two 5870s?

Alienware_fan

I was bored.

Nice mess your boredom left you in.
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#41 Alienware_fan
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[QUOTE="Alienware_fan"]

[QUOTE="JonChaoZ"]

Why on earth do you need more than two 5870s?

C_Rule

I was bored.

Nice mess your boredom left you in.

Cant you say something positive?

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#42 C_Rule
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[QUOTE="C_Rule"][QUOTE="Alienware_fan"]I was bored.

Alienware_fan

Nice mess your boredom left you in.

Cant you say something positive?

When I'm feeling positive, I'll let you know.