Does anyone else think that Final Fantasy XII was slow and too time consuming?

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#1 Castlevania1986
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How many of you have played Final Fantasy XII? Well I got it several days ago and have been playing it for the longest of time. I have no idea how this game even scored a 9.0 when its the most time consuming game I've ever played. There are allot of problems such as extreeeeeeeeemly slow leveling up so your always forced to play with just one character at a time which not only makes it more harder but still doesnt help the characters level up all that fast.

My first impression with this game was " Wow the japanese must really think that Americans and Europeans dont have a life so we can just sit on our butt all day trying to play a slow boring a** RPG game that takes forever to get everything you need. Its also a pain in the a** because you deffinatly have to buy the strategy guide if you plan to get 100% of the game completed. Don't worry Im not bashing the FF series at all. I honestled loved 7 and 8 the best simply because they were fun. FF 7 still has the best party members out of the entire series no doubt. I just think that Final Fantasy is becoming sh*t now that its gone further into the saga. With worst characters being introduced as your main character and he's constantly a wuss. Sort like how Tidus was always being told what to do by Auron and now Vaan gets told what to do by some f*g that talks like a stupid British. Whats his name again? Balthier? And that ugly idiot thing with the rabit ears which has the worst design out of all of them? Yeah her name is Fran. I'm surprised I remembered their names. Anyway the best feature is the new way of performing special arts. You can use all the characters limit breaks at the same time and keep going until your time runs out which can last forever if your fast enough. Yeah they arent called limit breaks anymore "mist charges" is the new name. Still I wish these FF games were more like the originals.

Sorry to say but I hate this one even more than I hated FF X. FFX was boring and FFXII is a waste of time. I doubt anyone that actually finished it would go back and play it all over again unless they cheat by using a shark. Best RPGs are the old ones for the PSX. To hell with these PS2 RPG games.

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#2 dante_123456
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i didn't find it time consuming; i played about 9 hours of it, and then i realized it wasn't ging to get any better, so i gave up on it. imo FFXII is one of the worst FFs
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#4 xithrix
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FFXII it's a good game but too long and the interest in the game decrease instead of increasing different from FFVII

offtopic: damm i wanna play FFVII again but the graphics really dont let me...

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#5 LoG-Sacrament
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i didnt like it at first, so i put it down for like half a year. but once i came around again, i thought it was good. btw, you have no idea how time consuming this game is until you do the last few hunts.

you tend to focus more on buffs and debuffs than nuking. i thought it was a refreshing change to the series. i wouldnt want this to be the new standard battle system, but its nice for a one time thing.

btw, you seem to having trouble leveling. the trick is to find the right spot. try the hidden area in the deadlands or if you havent reached those yet, try the first room of golmore jungle(great for money too).

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#6 Bauers-Twin
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I hated FFXII, why change the turn based battle mode? and the stupid skill system, and the gambits, none f that crap is good. VII, IX, and X are my faves.
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#7 paranoiasurviva
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It is one of the best games on the PS2 IMO.
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#8 mistervengeance
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isn't that what games are supposed to do??? use up your free time?

the game goes a lot faster than older rpg's, i don't know what you're talking about, because there is no transition to "battle mode". it's incorporated right into the area. i'd say those transition screens would take up a good hour or 2 of a 50 hour game.

the leveling seems fine, it' sjust the lisence points seem stupid to me. i don't like the characters either, besides balthier and basch.

and judging from what you have to say about the game, you only played an hour or so into it. it gets a lot better, believe me.

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#9 SkinnZero
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i somewhat agree with that. FFXII has not the "speed" other FFs have. The action is slow, but i find it actually interesting. I completely understand why FF lovers did´t like this one, but i´m a purist. I really like the "return to the roots" that FFXII has. For instance, the guest system. I don´t think FFXII is a bad game. Period.
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#10 Shiggums
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At least they gave the option of "Skipping" cutscenes. That made it easy to not get frustrated with it for me. :P
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#11 NavigatorsGhost
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Yeah the characters were flat out garbage. But I liked how they changed up the battle system and world map stuff, it was a nice change of pace. Didn't really care for the story that much, but I thought the whole Hunt Club thing was an awesome addition and the best part of the game. You've needed a guide for just about every final fantasy game if you want to do everything in the game, that has not changed.

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#12 clinicalinsayne
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yes... i stopped playing it about 8 hours into it... i just flat out gave up because i was so bored with it... and i liked ffx... xii just didnt interest me as much... i'll try and play it again later, but i've got other games i'm playing right now... i'll try again when i have spare time
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#13 kenshinhimura16
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It is one of the best games on the PS2 IMO.paranoiasurviva

Same here. The quest were fun and went back to the old days of RPGs, were you had to incestigate first, the game is not hard nor easy, leveling up is better than in previous games, you dont get overpowered so easily, thus battles end up being more tactical anyway, its all opinions afterall

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The story is crap, the characters are nothing special and far from memorable, and the game is slooow. All that is true. However i think the graphics are wicked, and watching the automated fights is fun. I keep double checking but my memory card keeps telling me I have played FF12 for 98 hours and I havent beaten it. I have ZERO will to goto the video store and pick it up one more time to try and finish it and it only costs me 2.80$ for 5 days lol.

I think one of the biggest things they did wrong was remove the minigames. Atleast then you had another reason to stick it in your playstation and turn it on which would eventually lead you into actually playing the rest of the game. As far as your leveling problems that wasnt a problem for me. You shouldnt even bother trying to level people until you get the accessory that doubles XP. Even then you should try to get as far into the game as possable so the monsters are worth more XP. FIghting SOLO isnt any faster than fighting in a group unless you are using that accessory. Do I wanna get 9 xp by killing a monster with solo with6 individuals or do I wanna get 3 xp for killing the monster with a group of 3 and do it6 times?? It takes the same amount of time.

Overall you were bashing all rpg's on the ps2. Have you played the action rpg's like Dark Cloud 2, Kingdom Hearts, .hack, Phantasy Star Universe, Okami??? What about the tactical rpg's like Disgaea, Makai Kingdom, Phantom Brave, Front Mission??? I cant say it enough....I think the days of turn based menu driven combat rpg's is DEAD. They are boring. Theres only so many times you can go through games like and if the average gamer is age 28+ then the average gamer has gotten sick of them by now thanx to NES and SNES and PS1. Thats 3 generations of the same crap.

I think the best FF that has come out recently is Chrystal Chronicles. That game is graphically wicked and the gameplay is engaging, and it lets you create your equipment instead of just buy it. I also love the reward system after you finish a stage. I CANT WAIT for FF:CC on Wii and the one on DS. FF13?? Who gives a crap.

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The story is crap, the characters are nothing special and far from memorable, and the game is slooow. All that is true. However i think the graphics are wicked, and watching the automated fights is fun. I keep double checking but my memory card keeps telling me I have played FF12 for 98 hours and I havent beaten it. I have ZERO will to goto the video store and pick it up one more time to try and finish it and it only costs me 2.80$ for 5 days lol.

I think one of the biggest things they did wrong was remove the minigames. Atleast then you had another reason to stick it in your playstation and turn it on which would eventually lead you into actually playing the rest of the game. As far as your leveling problems that wasnt a problem for me. You shouldnt even bother trying to level people until you get the accessory that doubles XP. Even then you should try to get as far into the game as possable so the monsters are worth more XP. FIghting SOLO isnt any faster than fighting in a group unless you are using that accessory. Do I wanna get 9 xp by killing a monster with solo with6 individuals or do I wanna get 3 xp for killing the monster with a group of 3 and do it6 times?? It takes the same amount of time.

Overall you were bashing all rpg's on the ps2. Have you played the action rpg's like Dark Cloud 2, Kingdom Hearts, .hack, Phantasy Star Universe, Okami??? What about the tactical rpg's like Disgaea, Makai Kingdom, Phantom Brave, Front Mission??? I cant say it enough....I think the days of turn based menu driven combat rpg's is DEAD. They are boring. Theres only so many times you can go through games like and if the average gamer is age 28+ then the average gamer has gotten sick of them by now thanx to NES and SNES and PS1. Thats 3 generations of the same crap.

I think the best FF that has come out recently is Chrystal Chronicles. That game is graphically wicked and the gameplay is engaging, and it lets you create your equipment instead of just buy it. I also love the reward system after you finish a stage. I CANT WAIT for FF:CC on Wii and the one on DS. FF13?? Who gives a crap.

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Actually the FF CC is pure and absolute crap, I would rather play The Bouncer than that. The game has a mediocre look, doesnt feel like FF at all, they introduce MP but force you to buy 2 separate things to be able to pull it. FF CC is Nintendos effect on a game: Force you to get accessories.

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#16 ace_blitzer06
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the new battle system actually saved time so i don't think that its consuming

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#17 gigaman299
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I thought it got slower and slower. It's not a bad game, but it's too long, and leveling is too slow. I remember power-leveling in one place, and getting out leveled about two or three hours after that. >_>
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#18 kingtahktahkhuk
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yeah its a grindfest but not too bad if you have the patience
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#19 skp_16
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Leveling up is one of the main reasons why I hate RPG. It's boring. I hope that there will be an RPG that has many ways to level up, not just by killing enemies.
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#20 kingtahktahkhuk
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Leveling up is one of the main reasons why I hate RPG. It's boring. I hope that there will be an RPG that has many ways to level up, not just by killing enemies.skp_16

vampire masquarade: bloodlines was a really good action rpg. you dont get exp for killing enemies, you gain exp by finishing quests. its for pc though

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#21 willxcool
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its not time wasting i spent 190++ hours in the game and i still whish it was longer
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#22 _AbBaNdOn
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Hehehe EVE Online which is a space mmorpg has a wierd XP system. You just earn xp whether you are online or not and it doesnt matter what you do lol. You just tell the game where to pump the XP and check it every few days. If i ever get back into mmorpg's and regain access to my account on EVE I will have a dude who is like inhumanly good at making left turns. Im just kidding. Thats not one of the skills. I dont remember what I was working on when i quit. But it makes me laugh everytime i think about my guy earning XP into this skill even though im no longer playing.
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#23 AzelKosMos
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One of my favorite PS2 games. 70 + hours of fun.
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#24 carrotthead
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it was slow...at first...but the game really picks up eventually...also although i may have consumed a lot of time to finish completly i didn't find it a hinderance...in fact i didn't want the game to end...