PS2 compatability with LCD's

I recently purchased a 40" Samsung 1080p LCD and while I love the new display, hooking my PS2 up to it... Well, lets just say, it looked like poo. We were using component cables which on our old 1080i tube display, looked amazing but on the 1080p, they just made the image all pixelated(blocky).

We had no idea this would happen, especially after seeing our friends PS2 running on a 32" 720p LCD, it looked great. So naturally, we expected it to look great on ours as well. Unfortunately it didn't and we decided to try the old composite connector that came with the system and sure enough, it cleared up the blocky look but it still looked horrible. It was all blurry and dull now. The solution, while not giving me the same quality we had before on the tube, makes my PS2 quite playable once again... S-video cables.

This is more of a post to let people know, that may be having the same issue with LCD's and their PS2's, to give S-video cables a shot. It makes the picture crisp and clean, but doesn't have the blurry or blocky images the other two seem to offer.

I think it may have more to do with the LCD being in 1080p, having far too many pixels on screen compared to the PS2's lower resolution output. Anyway, if this helps someone the way it helped me, I'll be happy, because I know how disappointed I was to see just how horrible my PS2 looked. It was so bad, I had areally hard time playing it.

i did what you did to and nothing seems to change its still looks better with my old 42 inch tv willxcool

y dont u buy one of those software disc that make all your ps game to 1080kaim_i

From what I was told, the PS3 is supposed to upscale PS2 games to 720p, so I'm kind of eager to see that.

List of HD Enhanced PS2 games

Maybe you've seen this link, it's just that some PS2 games looks better with HDTV, while others looks bad.

[QUOTE="kaim_i"]y dont u buy one of those software disc that make all your ps game to 1080Terami

From what I was told, the PS3 is supposed to upscale PS2 games to 720p, so I'm kind of eager to see that.

the scaler is PS3(thing that converts games to HD resolutions) is average at best. If you want to have your SD content scaled to HD then be ready to shell out thousands of dollars for a good scaler. Also, the reason it looks more "
blocky" while on 480p is because each frame is scanned so you get a more clear image, but that also reveals more pixelation. Also, the image on your HD tv depends on the type of video processor (VP) itcontains. NAturally different tv's will give a different imag. Hope this helped :)

I recently purchased a 40" Samsung 1080p LCD and while I love the new display, hooking my PS2 up to it... Well, lets just say, it looked like poo. We were using component cables which on our old 1080i tube display, looked amazing but on the 1080p, they just made the image all pixelated(blocky).

We had no idea this would happen, especially after seeing our friends PS2 running on a 32" 720p LCD, it looked great. So naturally, we expected it to look great on ours as well. Unfortunately it didn't and we decided to try the old composite connector that came with the system and sure enough, it cleared up the blocky look but it still looked horrible. It was all blurry and dull now. The solution, while not giving me the same quality we had before on the tube, makes my PS2 quite playable once again... S-video cables.

This is more of a post to let people know, that may be having the same issue with LCD's and their PS2's, to give S-video cables a shot. It makes the picture crisp and clean, but doesn't have the blurry or blocky images the other two seem to offer.

I think it may have more to do with the LCD being in 1080p, having far too many pixels on screen compared to the PS2's lower resolution output. Anyway, if this helps someone the way it helped me, I'll be happy, because I know how disappointed I was to see just how horrible my PS2 looked. It was so bad, I had areally hard time playing it.

Terami

I've bought a 37" LCD, a 32" LCD, and a 20" LCD, and 32" CRT TV, and I took them all back and got my money back because PS2 and normal TV looks horrible. PS2 looks the best on a 20" CRT, especially if the TV is 480p (hard to find EDTVs anymore), and then of course the game has to support progressive scan (Black, God of War, Tomb Raider Legend for example). Otherwise, you are taking a 480i image and stretching it out to fit a larger screen, which looks horrible unless you have a 720p or 1080i/p source, which you are mostly only going to get with a PS3 and HD TV service--both of which will set you back a lot of money.

So my 11 year old 20" CRT looks better than anything I've ever seen so far.

Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't it impossible to get 1080p resolution from component cables? Don't you have to be connected via HDMI to get that resolution?

My TV will not do 1080p, so I can't test that theory first hand, but seems like I remember reading that somewhere. I mean, my LCD automatically adjusts to the output of the device currently accessing it. Like if I have my 360 set to 720p and my PS3 set to 1080i...then my TV automatically adjusts to each setting accordingly.

So maybe your TV is setting itself to 1080i because you are connected to it via the component cables. Just a thought.

Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't it impossible to get 1080p resolution from component cables? Don't you have to be connected via HDMI to get that resolution?

Holywarriortim

Anyway, thanks for all the coments and contributions fellas.

that sucks...I'm eventually going to upgrade and jump into the next gen realm soon, but I don't want to say goodbye to my PS2...tryfe_lyn

[QUOTE="Terami"]

[QUOTE="kaim_i"]y dont u buy one of those software disc that make all your ps game to 1080firebreathing

From what I was told, the PS3 is supposed to upscale PS2 games to 720p, so I'm kind of eager to see that.

the scaler is PS3(thing that converts games to HD resolutions) is average at best. If you want to have your SD content scaled to HD then be ready to shell out thousands of dollars for a good scaler. Also, the reason it looks more "
blocky" while on 480p is because each frame is scanned so you get a more clear image, but that also reveals more pixelation. Also, the image on your HD tv depends on the type of video processor (VP) itcontains. NAturally different tv's will give a different imag. Hope this helped :)

For the most part, I would keep using the component cable and just make sure to use 480p when possible. There are some exceptions for games like Gran Turismo 4. 1080i looks worst than 480i on LCD. Just hold out for a bit until the PS3 actually gets some games, and you'll be happy.paranoiasurviva

The games that are not in progressive are the ones that go all blocky. I think it's just how many pixels the 1080p screen has because I have since tried 3 other LCD's with lower resolutions (720p) and the PS2 looked great on them. 720p still shows more flaws but is still quite playable.

Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't it impossible to get 1080p resolution from component cables? Don't you have to be connected via HDMI to get that resolution?

My TV will not do 1080p, so I can't test that theory first hand, but seems like I remember reading that somewhere. I mean, my LCD automatically adjusts to the output of the device currently accessing it. Like if I have my 360 set to 720p and my PS3 set to 1080i...then my TV automatically adjusts to each setting accordingly.

So maybe your TV is setting itself to 1080i because you are connected to it via the component cables. Just a thought.

Holywarriortim

[QUOTE="paranoiasurviva"]For the most part, I would keep using the component cable and just make sure to use 480p when possible. There are some exceptions for games like Gran Turismo 4. 1080i looks worst than 480i on LCD. Just hold out for a bit until the PS3 actually gets some games, and you'll be happy.Terami

The games that are not in progressive are the ones that go all blocky. I think it's just how many pixels the 1080p screen has because I have since tried 3 other LCD's with lower resolutions (720p) and the PS2 looked great on them. 720p still shows more flaws but is still quite playable.

Right...this is my first postI believe - finally found people with the same problem!

I have a 26" LG LCD tv capable of 1080i......

Games looked nice, clean, sharp and colourful using a gold plated RGB scart cable to hook my ps2 up to a 8 year old Toshiba CRT. This tv then conked out and wouldn't turn on, so we went off and bought the LG lcd.

I hooked the ps2 up to the tv with pro evo 6 in, thinking the graphics were going to be even better...but no, blurryand washed out...tried Bully, again blurry, jagged and washed out. Tried the old composite cables - still crap.

Played around with ps2/TV settings, still looked crap.

I then purchased some big thick gold plated component leads off the internet - STILL CRAP!

I did manage to play my NTSC 'Lost' dvd in progressive scan, but this didn't look any different.

DVD's (even on the ps2) and freeview both look really nice, just ps2 games look so bad.

The graphics seriously put me off and I don't play on my ps2 half as much now as the writing can be hard to read and it just annoys me with the way it looks.

TBH, I really don't want to shell out money on s-video cables just to see the same results...anyway, I should get a ps3 around christmas - I know the TV looks great on hi-def, saw Star wars being played on it in blu-ray!

Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

PS, I also thought about getting that 'ps2 in HDTV' player but that's meant to be a load of fakerubbish

Right...this is my first postI believe - finally found people with the same problem!

I have a 26" LG LCD tv capable of 1080i......

Games looked nice, clean, sharp and colourful using a gold plated RGB scart cable to hook my ps2 up to a 8 year old Toshiba CRT. This tv then conked out and wouldn't turn on, so we went off and bought the LG lcd.

I hooked the ps2 up to the tv with pro evo 6 in, thinking the graphics were going to be even better...but no, blurryand washed out...tried Bully, again blurry, jagged and washed out. Tried the old composite cables - still crap.

Played around with ps2/TV settings, still looked crap.

I then purchased some big thick gold plated component leads off the internet - STILL CRAP!

I did manage to play my NTSC 'Lost' dvd in progressive scan, but this didn't look any different.

DVD's (even on the ps2) and freeview both look really nice, just ps2 games look so bad.

The graphics seriously put me off and I don't play on my ps2 half as much now as the writing can be hard to read and it just annoys me with the way it looks.

TBH, I really don't want to shell out money on s-video cables just to see the same results...anyway, I should get a ps3 around christmas - I know the TV looks great on hi-def, saw Star wars being played on it in blu-ray!

Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

PS, I also thought about getting that 'ps2 in HDTV' player but that's meant to be a load of fakerubbish

bluefoxtim

It supports :

1080i (HDTV)

720p (HDTV)

480p (EDTV)

480i (SDTV)

576p 576i

according to various sites..I've not had any HD source connected to it yet, so i've yet to be able to use half the features like PIP etc

[QUOTE="bluefoxtim"]

Right...this is my first postI believe - finally found people with the same problem!

I have a 26" LG LCD tv capable of 1080i......

Games looked nice, clean, sharp and colourful using a gold plated RGB scart cable to hook my ps2 up to a 8 year old Toshiba CRT. This tv then conked out and wouldn't turn on, so we went off and bought the LG lcd.

I hooked the ps2 up to the tv with pro evo 6 in, thinking the graphics were going to be even better...but no, blurryand washed out...tried Bully, again blurry, jagged and washed out. Tried the old composite cables - still crap.

Played around with ps2/TV settings, still looked crap.

I then purchased some big thick gold plated component leads off the internet - STILL CRAP!

I did manage to play my NTSC 'Lost' dvd in progressive scan, but this didn't look any different.

DVD's (even on the ps2) and freeview both look really nice, just ps2 games look so bad.

The graphics seriously put me off and I don't play on my ps2 half as much now as the writing can be hard to read and it just annoys me with the way it looks.

TBH, I really don't want to shell out money on s-video cables just to see the same results...anyway, I should get a ps3 around christmas - I know the TV looks great on hi-def, saw Star wars being played on it in blu-ray!

Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

PS, I also thought about getting that 'ps2 in HDTV' player but that's meant to be a load of fakerubbish

paranoiasurviva

Bluefox, I'm not saying s-video cables will be everyone's solution to the problem because every TV is different. I'm suggesting s-video as a possible solution. Components, my games are so sharp and blocky, that the image is so distorted I can not stand to look at the games. Composite, while making the games quite playable, creates such a blurry and dark look to the image.

The s-video cables seem to be the happy medium for me. I get the clear picture of components(minus some colour the components provide) with zero pixelization. The cables I purchased are the Sony first party ones, and they were only $24.99. To ease my pain, it was a small price to pay. The only down side, is that progressive modes aren't available with s-video. Like I mentioned earlier though,not many of mygames have a progressive mode anyway.

Well tbh, composite, component and scart all look the same - can't see any differences... on my old CRT, scart looked 1000000000x better than composite.

I think resi 4 can be played in progressive scan, it didn't look any different, and when I played socom: CA in progressive, it certainly looked better but everything on the screen gets moved, very weird