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#1 leon106
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one of my buddies told me this and idk if its true but he said that blu rays actually can hold somewhere between 75-100 gigs on them but right now they have 50gigs of reliable space however as technology improves the space on a blu ray will actually hold 100 gigs in the future is this true?
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#2 Deviltrigger
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yeah with 4 layers you can have a 100gb Blue ray if i'm not wrong.

but i beliive ps3 drive can only read up to double layer Blue ray discs(50gb).

i've heard that ps3 could read those quad layer discs with a firmware update but i'm not sure of that either.

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#3 Deviltrigger
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by the way,

200gb Blue ray

8 layers, by 2009.

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#4 Clever_NYC
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Actually TDK has 200gb 8 layer disks. As to weather the PS3 can read them I am unsure of but, I think sony may have thought that far ahead so I wouldn't be surprised.
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#6 teebeenz
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PS3 supports 2 layers. Thats all.
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#7 AnFangs_Endes
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PS3 supports 2 layers. Thats all.teebeenz

Which can be upgraded with firmware updates.

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#8 teebeenz
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Which can be upgraded with firmware updates.AnFangs_Endes
Yeah... no.
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#9 khalid_b
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it was confirmed awhile back that PS3s are compatible with 100gig BDs.
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#10 teebeenz
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it was confirmed awhile back that PS3s are compatible with 100gig BDs. khalid_b
No it was speculated. Till they arrive there is no confirmation.
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#11 AnFangs_Endes
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[QUOTE="AnFangs_Endes"]Which can be upgraded with firmware updates.teebeenz
Yeah... no.

IIRC the people who are developing the larger BD's said that it would only take a firmware update to allow current Blu-Ray players to play the larger ones when they come around.

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#12 teebeenz
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More layers normally means a new lens system is needed. Its unlikely they designed all BD players to support a format which is of no use to them.
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#13 khalid_b
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[QUOTE="khalid_b"]it was confirmed awhile back that PS3s are compatible with 100gig BDs. teebeenz
No it was speculated. Till they arrive there is no confirmation.

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25965133

http://www.dailytech.com/Hitachi+Develops+100GB+Bluray+Disc+Compatible+With+Existing+Drives/article9173.htm

http://www.n4g.com/industrynews/NewsCom-72587.aspx#Comments

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Not even the 50GB disks are stable. Anyone who tells you they are are full of crap and are getting their biased info from some hole in the wall website.

There still really isn't a need for such large disks. If you actually find out how much space is taken up on most BR disks (games that is) it is very minimal on the 25GB. Folklore has been the biggest so far with just over 14GB used. Warhawk used less then 1GB... waste of a BD if you ask me.

BD can theoretically have up to 8 layers and meaning 200GB... nothing has even come close to being stable with that sort of capacity. Unlike HD DVD which is meant to be a Video Medium, BD is going for a Storage Medium. In the future this might prove useful when games become even more better looking and the soundtracks are uncompressed (which is almost useless for 99.9% of consumers). The problem with big games eventually will lead to not being able to install the game on the HDD to increase load times, rather you will get longer load times.

Also, playing layers above 2 on most players is out the question because that is all hardware based, not software. I mean, if some of you have DVD readers from when they originally came out for you computer, you can't play the DL disks even if you have the most up to date firmware.

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#15 locklain
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There still really isn't a need for such large disks. If you actually find out how much space is taken up on most BR disks (games that is) it is very minimal on the 25GB. Folklore has been the biggest so far with just over 14GB used. Warhawk used less then 1GB... waste of a BD if you ask me.

oblivious789

To quote Bill Gates:

"No one will need more than 637 kB of memory for a personal computer."

This was said in the 90's I believe. To say that there is no need for such a large disk may be feasible now but in the near future they will be used.

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#16 thageneral3
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[QUOTE="oblivious789"]

There still really isn't a need for such large disks. If you actually find out how much space is taken up on most BR disks (games that is) it is very minimal on the 25GB. Folklore has been the biggest so far with just over 14GB used. Warhawk used less then 1GB... waste of a BD if you ask me.

locklain

To quote Bill Gates:

"No one will need more than 637 kB of memory for a personal computer."

This was said in the 90's I believe. To say that there is no need for such a large disk may be feasible now but in the near future they will be used.

Look up and interview withone of theMGS developers he says the game will push the capacity of the Blu Ray disk, and they couldn't have made the game without it.