1080i vs 720p

my tv/monitor only supports 1080i. I keep hearing tho how 720p looks alot better. Is this true? thanks guys ;)

1080i looks way better. period. the frame rate of video games aren't faster than a motion picture so a 1080 interlaced picture of a video game will produce more pixels than a 720p anyday. just look and see for yourself.

Is that true if i have a 1080i tv it should support 720p? because whenever i choose 720p as an option the screen goes blank and it says i have no signal when i try to play a game which is in 720p. So i usually end up playing in
576iRobinho1873

Should my 1080i tv support 720p tho? Robinho1873

i dunno how old it is its a samsung sm940mw. Probably is an older one. Damn i wish i had the moolah to grab a 1080p tv.that would be sweetRobinho1873

You are actually wrong 720p is better becuase u get a full 720 lines where with 1080i meaning interlaced u only get half so only 540 lines so half the lines are virtual thats why u hear 1080p FULLHD cuzur getting 1080 lines of progressive.

its
1080p
720p
1080i
480p
480issjgoku808

Bingo...

but you wouldn't notice the difference if you have under 50inch with 1080p right?sniper_99

For games, I would stick with 720p because the screen never has to refresh itself. All of the pixels are on screen and constantly in motion.

Blu-Ray movies I prefer to watch in 1080i because it is close to the native resolution of 1080p. For upscaled DVD's, I stick with 720p because, again, it is closer to the native resolution.

THE ONLY 1080i TVS THAT CAN ACTUALLY DISPLAY TRUE 1080i ARE CRT TVS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just because your tv supports upto 1080i does not mean it can show 1080i. If it's not CRT, then it's either 720p or 1080p. So if say you have a LCD that is 720p/1080i, then 100% chance it's native 720p to 768p. And guess what that means, it can't show 1080i at 1080i, it supports the input, but it has to deinterlace and downscale it to 720p, thus, no better than picking 720p to begin with and then you lose framerate due to 1080i 30fps limit.

SO NO, 1080I ON A 720P TV IS NOT BETTER THAN 720P, 720P WOULD BE BETTER. 1080I ON A 1080I CRT WOULD BE BETTER THAN USING 720P.

I prefer 720p over 1080i. I prefer 1080p over all of them.

Why? because 1080i is interlaced. Every frame only half the pixels change. I can't describe it, but just go with 720p.

THE ONLY 1080i TVS THAT CAN ACTUALLY DISPLAY TRUE 1080i ARE CRT TVS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just because your tv supports upto 1080i does not mean it can show 1080i. If it's not CRT, then it's either 720p or 1080p. So if say you have a LCD that is 720p/1080i, then 100% chance it's native 720p to 768p. And guess what that means, it can't show 1080i at 1080i, it supports the input, but it has to deinterlace and downscale it to 720p, thus, no better than picking 720p to begin with and then you lose framerate due to 1080i 30fps limit.

SO NO, 1080I ON A 720P TV IS NOT BETTER THAN 720P, 720P WOULD BE BETTER. 1080I ON A 1080I CRT WOULD BE BETTER THAN USING 720P.

TimothyB

lol no... when i play games with either i can tell its not 720p or 1080i so therefore u are wrong

[QUOTE="ssjgoku808"]You are actually wrong 720p is better becuase u get a full 720 lines where with 1080i meaning interlaced u only get half so only 540 lines so half the lines are virtual thats why u hear 1080p FULLHD cuzur getting 1080 lines of progressive.

its
1080p
720p
1080i
480p
480icrock

Bingo...

1080i60 on a 1080p tv that has proper inverse teceline can change it back into near perfect 1080p at 30fps for movies and such. And even if the 1080p tv doesn't have the best hardware, 1080i still resolves all 1080 lines with slow motion, but during fast motion it might display as little as 540 lines. Then you have to outweight if a fast action move looks better at 720p all the time, or 1080 at slow parts down to 540 with the fast motion. But then again, most times fast motion happens there will be a slightly blur from the camera so then you might not even need all 1080 lines of detail for that.

Basically, for movies, 1080i is still better than 720p in most cases with movies on a 1080p tv.

[QUOTE="TimothyB"]

THE ONLY 1080i TVS THAT CAN ACTUALLY DISPLAY TRUE 1080i ARE CRT TVS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just because your tv supports upto 1080i does not mean it can show 1080i. If it's not CRT, then it's either 720p or 1080p. So if say you have a LCD that is 720p/1080i, then 100% chance it's native 720p to 768p. And guess what that means, it can't show 1080i at 1080i, it supports the input, but it has to deinterlace and downscale it to 720p, thus, no better than picking 720p to begin with and then you lose framerate due to 1080i 30fps limit.

SO NO, 1080I ON A 720P TV IS NOT BETTER THAN 720P, 720P WOULD BE BETTER. 1080I ON A 1080I CRT WOULD BE BETTER THAN USING 720P.

ssjgoku808

lol no... when i play games with either i can tell its not 720p or 1080i so therefore u are wrong

Progressive tvs are that, progressive. Giving it 1080i doesn't mean it's going to run in an interlaced mode. And if say the 720p tv has 1280*720, then how is 1080i going to make a difference over 720p if it's going to be downscaled to 720p anyway? It's possible the downscaling might sharpen things, smooth edges, who knows, it all depends on the tv. I know when I tried 1080i with Gears on a 768p tv it looked like 540p, and 720p look tons sharper. But with movies on the same tv, they could look slightly better using that bit more 768p resolution.

It's just not physically possible to show true 1080i on a 720p tv. But again, there will be some sideeffects, postive or negative depending on the tv and game.

[QUOTE="crock"]

[QUOTE="ssjgoku808"]You are actually wrong 720p is better becuase u get a full 720 lines where with 1080i meaning interlaced u only get half so only 540 lines so half the lines are virtual thats why u hear 1080p FULLHD cuzur getting 1080 lines of progressive.

its
1080p
720p
1080i
480p
480iTimothyB

Bingo...

1080i60 on a 1080p tv that has proper inverse teceline can change it back into near perfect 1080p at 30fps for movies and such. And even if the 1080p tv doesn't have the best hardware, 1080i still resolves all 1080 lines with slow motion, but during fast motion it might display as little as 540 lines. Then you have to outweight if a fast action move looks better at 720p all the time, or 1080 at slow parts down to 540 with the fast motion. But then again, most times fast motion happens there will be a slightly blur from the camera so then you might not even need all 1080 lines of detail for that.

Basically, for movies, 1080i is still better than 720p in most cases with movies on a 1080p tv.

How can i tell if its CRT?Robinho1873

CRTs are the tube tvs we've always been using of interlaced 480i regular tvs. So they are huge in the back. And then there are CRT rear projections that are huge with giant built in bases compared to the newer microdisplay rear projections like DLP.

[QUOTE="TimothyB"][QUOTE="crock"]

[QUOTE="ssjgoku808"]You are actually wrong 720p is better becuase u get a full 720 lines where with 1080i meaning interlaced u only get half so only 540 lines so half the lines are virtual thats why u hear 1080p FULLHD cuzur getting 1080 lines of progressive.

its
1080p
720p
1080i
480p
480issjgoku808

Bingo...

1080i60 on a 1080p tv that has proper inverse teceline can change it back into near perfect 1080p at 30fps for movies and such. And even if the 1080p tv doesn't have the best hardware, 1080i still resolves all 1080 lines with slow motion, but during fast motion it might display as little as 540 lines. Then you have to outweight if a fast action move looks better at 720p all the time, or 1080 at slow parts down to 540 with the fast motion. But then again, most times fast motion happens there will be a slightly blur from the camera so then you might not even need all 1080 lines of detail for that.

Basically, for movies, 1080i is still better than 720p in most cases with movies on a 1080p tv.

1080i is a 1920*1080 image split in two, every other line, then the other shown right after. So yes, 1920*540at refresh, but the next frame is actually part of the previous frame most the time. And since it's at 60hz, you think you are seeing 30 full frames. On a 1080p tv, with say a HD-DVD 1080i player, the player converts the 1080p24 from the disc to 1080i60 teceline, then a good 1080p tv can reverse that. Even most first blur-ay players had to do 1080p output by converting 1080p24 to 1080i60 then 1080p60 for output, since that was the normal method for 2:3 pulldown for framerate conversion and such. That's why it's cool the PS3 has 1080p24 output option for future 120hz tvs so no framerate changes happen that can cause jitters.

So basically 1080i60 is the exact same detail as 1080p30. Depends on the game and source of course. All I'm saying is, 1080i at 30fps can have more detail than 720p.

But with games, this should never come up. If you have a 720p tv, then there's really no point in 1080i. If you have a 1080i tv, then obviously you need 1080i. If you have a 1080p tv, then in the PS3 case, you'd probably pick 1080p over 1080i or 720p.

But my tv only supports 1080i so what happens with mine? surely it cant be downscaled to 720p if it doesnt support it? sorry if i come across as a complete dumbass its just because....well.......i am when it comes to this stuffRobinho1873

That's a major problem with the PS3 that may never get fixed. The PS3 has no internal scaler chip or anything reserved for that process. if you have a 720p only game, and your 1080i CRT can't take 720p, then the PS3 will have to use 480p. Some games are doing a work around by having a built in software upscaler in the game. But the first, Rainbow Six, has been said to look horrible using the upscaling from 720p to 1080i or 1080p. Any 1080p game will play at 1080i or 720p atleast.

Hey Man,

I have a Crt 1080i Tv and those tv's do not have 720p support just 480p, 480i and 1080i, here's a link that might interest you.....

http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=ps3&thread.id=1543693

Well with myself testing with my 720P and 1080i tv + numerous other testimonials, i can say that 1080i does look better*. 1080i is a lot sharper and has an overall cleaner image on my tv and in general.

*Depending on some games, 1080i may look better or worse. EX: R6V, 720p looks better...1080i is extremely blurry and unsharp.

so since my tv has a native resolution of 720p i should leave it at that instead of setting it to 1080i?MCNewYork87

Hey Man,

I have a Crt 1080i Tv and those tv's do not have 720p support just 480p, 480i and 1080i, here's a link that might interest you.....

http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=ps3&thread.id=1543693

Jaden_Hybrid

That was very interesting actually i didnt know people were so passionate about it. im not really a tech head so games is just games to me lol ;)

It depends on what software you are running.

If a movie/games resolution is natively set to 720p and you set your TV to 1080i or p, it will look worse.

It will look worse because setting your TV to a higher resolution then your software's native resolution is like holding a magnifing lens to the image. So you will see more jaggys.

Example: R6V looks wack in 1080i but better in 720p or 480p

It depends on what software you are running.

If a movie/games resolution is natively set to 720p and you set your TV to 1080i or p, it will look worse.

It will look worse because setting your TV to a higher resolution then your software's native resolution is like holding a magnifing lens to the image. So you will see more jaggys.

Example: R6V looks wack in 1080i but better in 720p or 480p

pjoasil

There's just something wrong with R6V upscaling particular. But if a tv is 1080p, and you give it R6V at 720p, the tv itself is going to upscale it to 1080p anyway, it won't look particularly worse, just a bit softer compared to a same size 720p tv at the same sitting distance. And a 720p tv, upscaling a 720p game to 1080i and then the tv downscales back to 720p it should look almost the same, nothing magnified.

my tv/monitor only supports 1080i. I keep hearing tho how 720p looks alot better. Is this true? thanks guys ;)

Robinho1873

THE TRUTH!!!!

I have friend who works for Panasonic television department. There is not a big noticeable difference.

720p looks better on moving images.

1080i looks better on still images.

That simple.

THE TRUTH!!!!

I have friend who works for Panasonic television department. There is not a big noticeable difference.

720p looks better on moving images.

1080i looks better on still images.

That simple.

NismoNissan41

Exactly...720P is better for videos or games where the screen changes rapidly, such as racing games...1080i is better for slower movements, so a 1080i TV would look better then a 720p TV when watching/playing golf but worse when watching/playing auto races, playing a FPS and watching or playing many sports...