34 ps3 sent back out of 115 sold snice

My mate works in "game" in essex, and he said these people wanted a refund due to the fact it couldn't play most ps2 games...

does anyone know if sony has plans to update the hardware by x-mas?

 

 

My mate works in "game" in essex, and he said these people wanted a refund due to the fact it couldn't play most ps2 games...

does anyone know if sony has plans to update the hardware by x-mas?

colt24

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My mate works in "game" in essex, and he said these people wanted a refund due to the fact it couldn't play most ps2 games...

does anyone know if sony has plans to update the hardware by x-mas?

deadpool51

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My mate works in "game" in essex, and he said these people wanted a refund due to the fact it couldn't play most ps2 games...

does anyone know if sony has plans to update the hardware by x-mas?

Roland123_basic

 It's backwards compatible with around 1700 games out of the box.

What are you talking about you tit... how is it not a fact?? he works there... he told me how many people tried to get there money back in the shop he works at,

Xbox360 fanboy, how meny 360 got sent back ???

There is around 10millon 360 sales in the last 12/14months, now how meny are people having to re-buy there 360 cos of the 3red rings? 1+1= 2millon...

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My mate works in "game" in essex, and he said these people wanted a refund due to the fact it couldn't play most ps2 games...

does anyone know if sony has plans to update the hardware by x-mas?

tiprun

 It's backwards compatible with around 1700 games out of the box.

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My mate works in "game" in essex, and he said these people wanted a refund due to the fact it couldn't play most ps2 games...

does anyone know if sony has plans to update the hardware by x-mas?

Roland123_basic

 

 

My mate works in "game" in essex, and he said these people wanted a refund due to the fact it couldn't play most ps2 games...

does anyone know if sony has plans to update the hardware by x-mas?

colt24

Yeah. This is unfortunate. Europeans are really getting screwed by Sony's decision to remove EE from the euro ps3. This will happen to the next revision of the US and Japanese PS3s too. I would expect updated PS3s with EE removed in the US and *** market within the next six months or so, to coincide with the transition from 90nm to 65nm Cell fab.

BTW: hardware backward compatability is one of the reasons I bought a PS3 recently, as I have a large PS2 library I'd like to keep playing (and my PS2 is from April '01 and dying hard).

if people are too dumb to update the firmware before playing PS2 games, they don't deserve to have PS3sBenderUnit22

if people are too dumb to update the firmware before playing PS2 games, they don't deserve to have PS3sBenderUnit22

I'm so bored of typing this,I wish our gaming media were more accurate,but here goes.

When MS said they'd "sold" 10 million it was cooked figures.MS have re-evaluated what sold means.It now means the same as Sony's shipping figures(not their sold figures by the way).It's consoles "sold" to retailers  not members of the public.MS had told everyone they would sell 10million by xmas06 and they also said that in console war,the first one to 10 million wins.Hence about 7-8 million sold became 10 million "sold".

Sony shipped 1 million to EU and sold 600000 in 2 days

Sony shipped 220000 to the UK and sold 165000 in 2 days.The number 1 and 2 games back this up.It's rare to do this at launch.

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My mate works in "game" in essex, and he said these people wanted a refund due to the fact it couldn't play most ps2 games...

does anyone know if sony has plans to update the hardware by x-mas?

deadpool51

Wii Sports? :D

Yeah. This is unfortunate. Europeans are really getting screwed by Sony's decision to remove EE from the euro ps3. This will happen to the next revision of the US and Japanese PS3s too. I would expect updated PS3s with EE removed in the US and *** market within the next six months or so, to coincide with the transition from 90nm to 65nm Cell fab.

BTW: hardware backward compatability is one of the reasons I bought a PS3 recently, as I have a large PS2 library I'd like to keep playing (and my PS2 is from April '01 and dying hard).

OldFart1968

[QUOTE="BenderUnit22"]if people are too dumb to update the firmware before playing PS2 games, they don't deserve to have PS3sOldFart1968

actually with the ee removed we can get better quality through software emulation.longhorn7

I see you've never actually worked with hardware emulation before. There's a reason 360 owners are unhappy about XBox software emulation for back compatibility; it sucks. Hardware emulation has always lagged in speed and compatibility. In fact, I remember back in 1992 when Windows NT was released for the DEC Alpha workstation (an Intel incompatible chipset), and DEC bolted on this crazy JIT x86 emulator to run Office under. It never sold (and it never worked well either). About the only company that has successfully deployed emulation is Apple, who used it to transition from 68x00 back in the early nineties, and then again from PPC to Intel two years back. But if you've ever run MS Office 2004 on an Intel Mac... you'd know why so many of us are pining for an Intel build of Office 2008.

Upshot: Emulation is inherently unstable. Add 3D graphics calls and CPU timing dependencies and you've got one thorny coding problem. I strongly doubt backwards compatibility through software will ever compete to hardware based solutions. For this reason, I also think 1st gen US and *** PS3s will become collector items in the near future.

[QUOTE="longhorn7"]actually with the ee removed we can get better quality through software emulation.OldFart1968

I see you've never actually worked with hardware emulation before. There's a reason 360 owners are unhappy about XBox software emulation for back compatibility; it sucks. Hardware emulation has always lagged in speed and compatibility. In fact, I remember back in 1992 when Windows NT was released for the DEC Alpha workstation (an Intel incompatible chipset), and DEC bolted on this crazy JIT x86 emulator to run Office under. It never sold (and it never worked well either). About the only company that has successfully deployed emulation is Apple, who used it to transition from 68x00 back in the early nineties, and then again from PPC to Intel two years back. But if you've ever run MS Office 2004 on an Intel Mac... you'd know why so many of us are pining for an Intel build of Office 2008.

Upshot: Emulation is inherently unstable. Add 3D graphics calls and CPU timing dependencies and you've got one thorny coding problem. I strongly doubt backwards compatibility through software will ever compete to hardware based solutions. For this reason, I also think 1st gen US and *** PS3s will become collector items in the near future.

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My mate works in "game" in essex, and he said these people wanted a refund due to the fact it couldn't play most ps2 games...

does anyone know if sony has plans to update the hardware by x-mas?

deadpool51