40gigs just not enough.

40 gigs wont be enough for the future ps3 owner. I know its cheap and you can always upgrade it. But most of the games I have required me to install up to 5 gigs of the game on my hdd. I have used up over half of my 60gig hdd, thats with no demos or anything else installed.

I see this only getting worse as time goes on. The games will get bigger the textures will be higher res and people won't want to put up with long loading screens. The system is bottle necked with its 2x bd speeds and its split 512 ram 256 for main 256 for video. the problem is data will have to be cached to the hdd and with its slow bd speeds its more practical to just pre install chucks of the game on the hdd.

So unless Sony releases a 40gig PS3 with a faster drive, you may find yourself with a less than multimedia system. I know you're going to say you can just erase old data, and yes you could just do that. And yes the saved game data isn't attached to the game install (this is the only life saver they have). I just feel even though Sony touted and said the PS3 is like a PC, its just not. You should not have to do maintenance and manage your PS3 like a PC. what happens when your hdd gets fragmented?

What do you guys think? 40gigs is plenty, orjust not enough?

well ive had my 60 gig for like 6 months and have only used ~35 gigs of it which includes downloading basically every decentdemo and about 20 videos from PSN and having warhawk on the hdd instead of bluray

wat games are u playing that u need to install 4 gigs onto ur ps3? the only game that i have that does that is everybodies golf 5 (hot shots golf 5 *** version)

I don't see this as a problem. HDDs are dirt cheap, you can pick up a massive one for a decent price. This applies to all SKUs, actually. Eventually, we're all going to max out space - 40 gigs sooner rather than later. The 40 gig version was created to fill a gap in the PS3 SKU lineup, and it'll serve its purpose.

Tim

well ive had my 60 gig for like 6 months and have only used ~35 gigs of it which includes downloading basically every decentdemo and about 20 videos from PSN and having warhawk on the hdd instead of bluray

wat games are u playing that u need to install 4 gigs onto ur ps3? the only game that i have that does that is everybodies golf 5 (hot shots golf 5 *** version)

heretic92

I have more games, but you get the point.

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well ive had my 60 gig for like 6 months and have only used ~35 gigs of it which includes downloading basically every decentdemo and about 20 videos from PSN and having warhawk on the hdd instead of bluray

wat games are u playing that u need to install 4 gigs onto ur ps3? the only game that i have that does that is everybodies golf 5 (hot shots golf 5 *** version)

gagit811

I have more games, but you get the point.

well oblivion its basically expected, and those that install under 500 mb its just like "meh" think of it as a save file, and warhawk is only the download version?

but yeah i didnt no that there were so many games thatrequired large hdd space

well oblivion its basically expected, and those that install under 500 mb its just like "meh" think of it as a save file, and warhawk is only the download version?

but yeah i didnt no that there were so many games thatrequired large hdd space

heretic92

then its a good thing u dont :P hahaha. im sure people would notice that their hdd is filling up and would go out and get like a 160gig sata and just swap them over, since u can just back up your hdd on to external hdd sources hella easily and then just chuckthem bak on to the new hdd.

maybe thats y sony made it so easy to swap out hdds? because since all ps3s have a hdd (unlike the xbox) devolpers can utilize the hdd to minimize load screens and times, so obviously they are gonna use it if its there

What the @$%&? Doesputting information of the hard driveeven improve loading times? What a waste. Your right about it not being enough. As everyone's game collections grow we will definately run out of space. I wish I could buy one for a reduced price with no hard drive so I could install a 120GB.f789790

40 gigs wont be enough for the future ps3 owner. I know its cheap and you can always upgrade it. But most of the games I have required me to install up to 5 gigs of the game on my hdd. I have used up over half of my 60gig hdd, thats with no demos or anything else installed.

I see this only getting worse as time goes on. The games will get bigger the textures will be higher res and people won't want to put up with long loading screens. The system is bottle necked with its 2x bd speeds and its split 512 ram 256 for main 256 for video. the problem is data will have to be cached to the hdd and with its slow bd speeds its more practical to just pre install chucks of the game on the hdd.

So unless Sony releases a 40gig PS3 with a faster drive, you may find yourself with a less than multimedia system. I know you're going to say you can just erase old data, and yes you could just do that. And yes the saved game data isn't attached to the game install (this is the only life saver they have). I just feel even though Sony touted and said the PS3 is like a PC, its just not. You should not have to do maintenance and manage your PS3 like a PC. what happens when your hdd gets fragmented?

What do you guys think? 40gigs is plenty, orjust not enough?

gagit811

As my first post... that's part of the reason why the HDD is upgradeable. And that's also why they are using Blu Ray. Bigger medium is supposedley going to cut down on drive space used eventually or am I wrong?

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40 gigs wont be enough for the future ps3 owner. I know its cheap and you can always upgrade it. But most of the games I have required me to install up to 5 gigs of the game on my hdd. I have used up over half of my 60gig hdd, thats with no demos or anything else installed.

I see this only getting worse as time goes on. The games will get bigger the textures will be higher res and people won't want to put up with long loading screens. The system is bottle necked with its 2x bd speeds and its split 512 ram 256 for main 256 for video. the problem is data will have to be cached to the hdd and with its slow bd speeds its more practical to just pre install chucks of the game on the hdd.

So unless Sony releases a 40gig PS3 with a faster drive, you may find yourself with a less than multimedia system. I know you're going to say you can just erase old data, and yes you could just do that. And yes the saved game data isn't attached to the game install (this is the only life saver they have). I just feel even though Sony touted and said the PS3 is like a PC, its just not. You should not have to do maintenance and manage your PS3 like a PC. what happens when your hdd gets fragmented?

What do you guys think? 40gigs is plenty, orjust not enough?

CaptainHerlock

As my first post... that's part of the reason why the HDD is upgradeable. And that's also why they are using Blu Ray. Bigger medium is supposedley going to cut down on drive space used eventually or am I wrong?

bigger medium is being used because sony realised that next gen games will need next gen disc storage, i mean resistance came in at 16gig on the disk which cant be done on dvdevenif u usedual layer dvd (which is only 9gig)

considering they had 20 gigs for 350 already i dont see the point. they still have all the fancy stuff in them too.

the 20 gig ps3 was always the same price as the 20 gig xbox360 and nobody ever bought one.

but oo since a 40 gig one comes out for 400, obviously sony is genious now

I hope you know you can delete the cached data again. Also, HS uses 2 gigs, VF5 2.4 and Oblivion 4.5BenderUnit22

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CaptainHerlock

As my first post... that's part of the reason why the HDD is upgradeable. And that's also why they are using Blu Ray. Bigger medium is supposedley going to cut down on drive space used eventually or am I wrong?

bigger medium is being used because sony realised that next gen games will need next gen disc storage, i mean resistance came in at 16gig on the disk which cant be done on dvdevenif u usedual layer dvd (which is only 9gig)

One thing I see all the time is people saying "Get rid of the Blu Ray drive, we don't need it". Well this is exactly why they are using it Blu Ray and why they won't dump it. Games are only getting bigger. And you'll need a bigger medium. Blu Ray isn't going anywhere soon.

ive rented alot of ps3 games since july. and i got over ten demos and 15 vidoes over 300 pics im not half way over 60 yet. so i think 40 might be enuff if not like u said easy upgrade

dont laugh but my computer only has 40 gigs:o

or of course you just pull out the old hard drive and slip in a 250gig one ......zehoo

considering they had 20 gigs for 350 already i dont see the point. they still have all the fancy stuff in them too.

the 20 gig ps3 was always the same price as the 20 gig xbox360 and nobody ever bought one.

but oo since a 40 gig one comes out for 400, obviously sony is genious now

shroom76

20gb ps3 premiered at 500, 20gb xbox 360 premiered at 400.

you said yourself, for the future 40gb might not be enough indeed, but for now it's a great deal, in the future when you need more, you buy a bigger one, by that time they will be cheaper.

On the other side who says 40gb is not enough for the future, 60 are not enough either, it's not just 20gb more that are going to make a diffference.

Probably in few years from now, the premium pack will be 160gb ps3 and the basic will be 80gb.

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well ive had my 60 gig for like 6 months and have only used ~35 gigs of it which includes downloading basically every decentdemo and about 20 videos from PSN and having warhawk on the hdd instead of bluray

wat games are u playing that u need to install 4 gigs onto ur ps3? the only game that i have that does that is everybodies golf 5 (hot shots golf 5 *** version)

gagit811

I have more games, but you get the point.

That's only like 26gb, and anyway, most people don't buy like 25 games and wonder why their HDD is full...

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CaptainHerlock

As my first post... that's part of the reason why the HDD is upgradeable. And that's also why they are using Blu Ray. Bigger medium is supposedley going to cut down on drive space used eventually or am I wrong?

bigger medium is being used because sony realised that next gen games will need next gen disc storage, i mean resistance came in at 16gig on the disk which cant be done on dvdevenif u usedual layer dvd (which is only 9gig)

One thing I see all the time is people saying "Get rid of the Blu Ray drive, we don't need it". Well this is exactly why they are using it Blu Ray and why they won't dump it. Games are only getting bigger. And you'll need a bigger medium. Blu Ray isn't going anywhere soon.

Resistance had no compression whatsoever...

No matter what people say, Blu-Ray has not been proven necessary yet.

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TheSystemLord1

As my first post... that's part of the reason why the HDD is upgradeable. And that's also why they are using Blu Ray. Bigger medium is supposedley going to cut down on drive space used eventually or am I wrong?

bigger medium is being used because sony realised that next gen games will need next gen disc storage, i mean resistance came in at 16gig on the disk which cant be done on dvdevenif u usedual layer dvd (which is only 9gig)

One thing I see all the time is people saying "Get rid of the Blu Ray drive, we don't need it". Well this is exactly why they are using it Blu Ray and why they won't dump it. Games are only getting bigger. And you'll need a bigger medium. Blu Ray isn't going anywhere soon.

Resistance had no compression whatsoever...

No matter what people say, Blu-Ray has not been proven necessary yet.

That's true, you think we would be getting games a little bit quicker because they don't need to be compressed. With all of that space, the only way it can be prove necessary is if developers offer extreme amounts of content. As long is it's not developer diaries or behind-the-scenes videos, I mean things like more game modes, maps, etc.

I have a question, I have a 60gb...if I need to switch the hard drive, how do I go about doing that? And what about everything I've got saved onto my HDD...how can I transfer it?TheSystemLord1

The only thing you need is a screwdriver and a new HDD ofc.

Maybe this link can help http://community.eu.playstation.com/showthread.php?t=75071

Resistance had no compression whatsoever...

No matter what people say, Blu-Ray has not been proven necessary yet.

TheSystemLord1

rage has shown blue ray is necessary.

even compressed the game is 2dvds for the 360 (at this point?)

and 1 blu ray disk for the ps3.

blue dragon for the 360 shipped with 3 disks, that could have all fit on 1 blu ray disk.

while disk swapping isnt the worse thing in the world, it just shows blu ray was a wise investment for this generation.

The consume can change the HDD if they want a bigger one.Krigon

exactly...but if you don't want to make a purchase to upgrade, then do a little file management...that usually helps...

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TheSystemLord1

As my first post... that's part of the reason why the HDD is upgradeable. And that's also why they are using Blu Ray. Bigger medium is supposedley going to cut down on drive space used eventually or am I wrong?

bigger medium is being used because sony realised that next gen games will need next gen disc storage, i mean resistance came in at 16gig on the disk which cant be done on dvdevenif u usedual layer dvd (which is only 9gig)

One thing I see all the time is people saying "Get rid of the Blu Ray drive, we don't need it". Well this is exactly why they are using it Blu Ray and why they won't dump it. Games are only getting bigger. And you'll need a bigger medium. Blu Ray isn't going anywhere soon.

Resistance had no compression whatsoever...

No matter what people say, Blu-Ray has not been proven necessary yet.

That's the keyword; Yet. Games are only going to get bigger. The guys at Insomniac have already stated that Ratchet and Clank TOD couldn't be done on a DVD9. And if you pick up the new issue of GamePro you'll see Naughty Dog say that Uncharted is taking advantage of the larger Blu Ray disc as well as the Cell processor.

The PS3 isn't about 2007. It's about 2008 and beyond. You have to look at it long term.

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well ive had my 60 gig for like 6 months and have only used ~35 gigs of it which includes downloading basically every decentdemo and about 20 videos from PSN and having warhawk on the hdd instead of bluray

wat games are u playing that u need to install 4 gigs onto ur ps3? the only game that i have that does that is everybodies golf 5 (hot shots golf 5 *** version)

gagit811

I have more games, but you get the point.

cant have all, lower price with more features.