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#1 oblique465
Member since 2005 • 113 Posts

on the XMB, i go to system settings, system information and it says i have

23 out of 55 GB free space?

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#2 navigata
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Yea, its 55 due to some things already installed on your ps3 from production. System info etc is stored 5 gigs, everyone has this. Normal, there is no way to get those 5 gigs back.
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#3 Cutekitten6_18
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Yea, its 55 due to some things already installed on your ps3 from production. System info etc is stored 5 gigs, everyone has this. Normal, there is no way to get those 5 gigs back.navigata
Yea. All the system settings like the XMB are in that 5 GB's.
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#4 RotaryRX7
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Look at your computer's C: drive. I guarantee you $5,000,000 that your amount of GB total is not exactly what you paid for.

Example: You have a 160 GB HDD in your PC, it will say you only have 148GB of storage maybe. This is not only due to the OS software, but even before anything is installed you don't have all 160 GB due to formatting. This is basic computer knowledge.

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#5 stygiansanity
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on the 360 it's worse...12/20 :/
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#6 osan0
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well im assuming TC is wondering why it says 55GB and is not asking why he only has 23GB left. if ure wondering why theres only 23GB left then its because u have a load of stuff on ure HDD obhiously.

as for the 55GB bit, theres a few reasons. 1 is the way HDD memory is managed. some space (though not much) is lost to keep records of the addressable areas of the HDD.

2. when it says 60GB, its assuming (for some strange reason) that there are 10 bits in a byte. all HDD manufacturers do it for some odd reason. there are only 8 bits in a byte. the PS3 knows this of course so displays the actual space of the HDD. its the same on my PC. its supposed to be 150GB but its only 139GB.

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#7 oblique465
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well im assuming TC is wondering why it says 55GB and is not asking why he only has 23GB left. if ure wondering why theres only 23GB left then its because u have a load of stuff on ure HDD obhiously.

as for the 55GB bit, theres a few reasons. 1 is the way HDD memory is managed. some space (though not much) is lost to keep records of the addressable areas of the HDD.

2. when it says 60GB, its assuming (for some strange reason) that there are 10 bits in a byte. all HDD manufacturers do it for some odd reason. there are only 8 bits in a byte. the PS3 knows this of course so displays the actual space of the HDD. its the same on my PC. its supposed to be 150GB but its only 139GB.

osan0

okay im not THAT dumb LoL why would i be asking why theres only 23 GBs out of 55 left on (obvious?)

the first two posts answered the question you guys can let this post die out now

i only wanted to know why it said 55 max because i had my console exchanged and wanted to know if the previous owner had messed with the drive

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#8 jakndaxter7223
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ya you lose 5 gigs but thats ok
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#9 mikester585
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so why do companies lie about this , it might not make a differnece on the ps3 but on the xbox 360 1st 20gb / 12gb

thats a dissapointment,

why do they lie , you should get the memorie you pay for.

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#10 G-Legend
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so why do companies lie about this , it might not make a differnece on the ps3 but on the xbox 360 1st 20gb / 12gb

thats a dissapointment,

why do they lie , you should get the memorie you pay for.

mikester585

they're not lying lmao it's just the way it is hey they could give you the 60GB but you wouldn't be able to use your PS3. Atleast it's not as bad as the 360.

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#11 _MysTesO_
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Yeah, the day that I hooked up my PS3, I started out with 47GB/55GB.
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#12 Killer_Cyborg
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1000 * 1000 * 1000 * 60 = 60 000 000 000

60 000 000 000 / (1024 * 1024 * 1024) = 55.88GB

Same with all harddrive on the market. They calculate with a factor of 1000 when the computer will use a 1024 factor. 1KB = 1024Bytes. False representation if you ask me. Just like only listing the maximum recording speed of a DVD recorder or printing the dynamic contrast ratio instead of the real, etc. Marketing.
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#13 lhbchen
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1000 * 1000 * 1000 * 60 = 60 000 000 000

60 000 000 000 / (1024 * 1024 * 1024) = 55.88GB

Same with all harddrive on the market. They calculate with a factor of 1000 when the computer will use a 1024 factor. 1KB = 1024Bytes. False representation if you ask me. Just like only listing the maximum recording speed of a DVD recorder or printing the dynamic contrast ratio instead of the real, etc. Marketing.Killer_Cyborg

You beat me to it, I was just gonna put down the same equation.

the HD manufacturers use bytes. So it's actually 60G bytes but not 60GB. When you convertit back to bit, which is used by computer system, 2^10 bytes= 1024 bytes = 1000 bit. So 60G bytes/1.024^3=55.88 GB

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#14 Killer_Cyborg
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[QUOTE="Killer_Cyborg"]1000 * 1000 * 1000 * 60 = 60 000 000 000

60 000 000 000 / (1024 * 1024 * 1024) = 55.88GB

Same with all harddrive on the market. They calculate with a factor of 1000 when the computer will use a 1024 factor. 1KB = 1024Bytes. False representation if you ask me. Just like only listing the maximum recording speed of a DVD recorder or printing the dynamic contrast ratio instead of the real, etc. Marketing.lhbchen

You beat me to it, I was just gonna put down the same equation.

the HD manufacturers use bytes. So it's actually 60G bytes but not 60GB. When you convertit back to bit, which is used by computer system, 2^10 bytes= 1024 bytes = 1000 bit. So 60G bytes/1.024^3=55.88 GB



2^10 bytes = 1024 bytes = 8192 bits ;)
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#15 b11051973
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It is lame. Hard drive manufacturers advertise space where 1000 bytes equals a kilobyte. Your computer or any other device says 1024 bytes equals a kilobyte. So, the manufacturers advertise a false number. They've always done it this way and you just need to realize it.
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#16 f789790
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on the 360 it's worse...12/20 :/stygiansanity

:o Another reason to add to my list of why not to get a 360.

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#17 shark14
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I only have 4gb/55gb left
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#18 FatCat360
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Look at your computer's C: drive. I guarantee you $5,000,000 that your amount of GB total is not exactly what you paid for.

Example: You have a 160 GB HDD in your PC, it will say you only have 148GB of storage maybe. This is not only due to the OS software, but even before anything is installed you don't have all 160 GB due to formatting. This is basic computer knowledge.

RotaryRX7

I got a 60gig harddrive so wheres my money!

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#19 ScottEFresh
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on the 360 it's worse...12/20 :/stygiansanity

The 360 really only has 8GB of useable space? Is this true?! ...

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#20 mikester585
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well you are close enouhgh ,

12 gb / 20gb now that dose make a diference.

and on the subject of space ,

it all adds up ram/processer/graphics

one omore question if you don' mind , why dose ridge racer 7 for ps3 have a install option and why dose it use 5gb.

is this en

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#21 dholmes19
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my 80 gb says it has like 73gb total.