A big concers about LAIR's fire(no 56k)

after watching the latest videos over at ign, the fire and explosions looks like crap...

I was really looking forward to some awsome fire effects, but here were getting something from a ps2 game!

I really hope that they will do something about it, it just really stands out amid all those lovely landscapes.

also the smoke isnt that good, I would really like to see it move from the dragons wings.

and here are some recent pics to demonstrate

eew... this doesnt look good at all...

I hope these where just some bogus shots..

It looks good to me. Don't like it, don't buy it. Thats what I always say.

It looks good to me. Don't like it, don't buy it. Thats what I always say.

Freebird8877

now that is a really smart thing to do... not buy a great game just because of bad fire effects...:roll:

and im sorry to say this but I really cant see them changing the effects drastically untill release:cry:

Realistic looking fire is an absolute horror to create in game.

Return to Castle Wolfenstien did a good job of it with the flamethrower.

But personally I think in fantasy games like this they should shy away from "real" fire by giving it more of a bluish, greenish, some other color then yellow cast and then people will be much less likely to say...hey that fire looks like crap and more inclined to say, cool dragon fire.

It was from the alpha build_Tobli_

[QUOTE="_Tobli_"]It was from the alpha buildeclipsed4utoo

You're correct. Game developers often drastically enhance and balance lighting and particles right up untill they ship. What's funny though are all the PS fanboys who talk about how ugly Halo 3 is even though we have only seen alpha footage and screenshots. Anyway, Factor 5 is a good developer and they will make at least a good looking game and most likely a great looking game. What I'm most worried about is the gameplay; it sounds kind of weak compared to the scope and quality of the graphics, but thats probably just me wanting an excellent adventure game for the PS3.

hoe can you say the explosions don't look good when the stuff goes flying in the air. it is just not fire but the all the wood is flying ect. looks like the gas station demo at e3. the water affets are impressive. when there is a explosion on top of the water a wave comes and moves rocks on the shore. the physics of this game looks very epressive. think about it. 2000 enimies, explosions, water effects with the explosions,dragons flying over head, ships coming in, ect. and NO slowdowns it is not even a final build. you would be blind for not seeing all of this stuff. i have not seen one 360 game that has this much envirmental things going on like this.GARRYTH

Its probably just that its not a very good game.

Its probably just that its not a very good game.

marklarmer

It looks good to me. Don't like it, don't buy it. Thats what I always say.

Freebird8877

[QUOTE="marklarmer"]

Its probably just that its not a very good game.

eclipsed4utoo

Its probably just that its not a very good game.

marklarmer

ANyone else smell a troll? 

[QUOTE="_Tobli_"]It was from the alpha buildeclipsed4utoo

[QUOTE="marklarmer"]

Its probably just that its not a very good game.

CyanX73

ANyone else smell a troll? 

The fire effects are weak. I dont know if developers look at these forums are not but if they do its good so they can this type of forum and might think about changing something in a game just to better the game. Thats why I think all developers should show per alpha so the people who are going to buy the game might want to put some input about the game. The fire effects for this game should have the same effect that the chainsaw had in GeOW. It made me want to do it over and over and it was good looking as well.

hoe can you say the explosions don't look good when the stuff goes flying in the air. it is just not fire but the all the wood is flying ect. looks like the gas station demo at e3. the water affets are impressive. when there is a explosion on top of the water a wave comes and moves rocks on the shore. the physics of this game looks very epressive. think about it. 2000 enimies, explosions, water effects with the explosions,dragons flying over head, ships coming in, ect. and NO slowdowns it is not even a final build. you would be blind for not seeing all of this stuff. i have not seen one 360 game that has this much envirmental things going on like this.GARRYTH

The water DOES look incredible.... the impression I get is that special effects and graphical flourishes are the last things to be tweaked before release, theres a good chance the fire etc may look better when its done this summer... Even if it isn't I'm still buying the game .  Haha I dont buy games for fire effects.  I buy them cause they look fun to play.  And this one still looks great

I like great visuals, but I'm not about to nitpick cuz they aren't even more awesome. Although it does seem weird that two dragons can just hover in a circle attacking each other like that without beating their wings like hummingbirds. And I would have hoped we'd see one of those gigantic monsters, that take up the whole friggin' screen, in a vid by now...

The bottom shot looks a lot better than the top one. There's better textures and lighting, but I'd have to agree about the explosions. Still, I have to give these guys the benefit of the doubt until it's in its final build.trifuzion

i agree

eew... this doesnt look good at all...

I hope these where just some bogus shots..

GXR

Also, the devs are making the smoke/fog/fire in real time (along with many other things, but these were the things that concerned you TC)......so no need to worry.

Yea it looks this way in the trailers too. Go look in the trailer what it looks like when the dragons "blow" up lol or when they get shot, does not look very good.PitbullX

Its probably just that its not a very good game.

marklarmer

Are yall going to buy the game just to look at the graphics.BlackDianWei

Were you saying this in a good or bad way?

[QUOTE="Freebird8877"]

It looks good to me. Don't like it, don't buy it. Thats what I always say.

Dragon-Fire

now that is a really smart thing to do... not buy a great game just because of bad fire effects...:roll:

and im sorry to say this but I really cant see them changing the effects drastically untill release:cry:

So why are you on here nit-picking about one little thing? They look fine. And as far as we know, this game could suck, so I wouldn't call it a great game until it's out.

after watching the latest videos over at ign, the fire and explosions looks like crap...

I was really looking forward to some awsome fire effects, but here were getting something from a ps2 game!

I really hope that they will do something about it, it just really stands out amid all those lovely landscapes.

also the smoke isnt that good, I would really like to see it move from the dragons wings.

and here are some recent pics to demonstrate

Dragon-Fire

if you haven't figured it out yet, hd on your computer screen let alone moving picture versus still, doesn't look good.

how about you look at this and then complain.  The fire looks alot better.  And seriously how long did it take for previous generations to get in gear?  I hope you don't expect instant best graphics right away.  Plus game devs have just came from many years of working on ps2 games of course many game may have some remanents of older games, but for long.

here's the link to a video    http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/10712 

[QUOTE="Dragon-Fire"][QUOTE="Freebird8877"]

It looks good to me. Don't like it, don't buy it. Thats what I always say.

Freebird8877

now that is a really smart thing to do... not buy a great game just because of bad fire effects...:roll:

and im sorry to say this but I really cant see them changing the effects drastically untill release:cry:

So why are you on here nit-picking about one little thing? They look fine. And as far as we know, this game could suck, so I wouldn't call it a great game until it's out.

Well, from what I read this game is going to have a great story. and thats the most important thing about a game IMO.

Iv'e just watched the new footage on gametrailers, and it looks great. the fire is still to bright, but only on some levels(the green one). the castle fire looked great.

Im nitpicking only because the fire is the only problem with this games visuals, I just loved how you could see swords and shields flying around as your dragon kill them, and also I loved how you can lift monsters and hurl them at the enemy, kind of like in LOTR :D

[QUOTE="marklarmer"]

Its probably just that its not a very good game.

CyanX73

ANyone else smell a troll?

*sniffs* I smell a troll burning ._.

i really don't mind considering fire and smoke in all games look like crap.  i hate smoke in games like oblivion where it just looks like they take a picture of real smoke or something, and make 20 of them go in circles...now that looks like crap. 

EDIT: i just watched the trailers, and the fire looks good to me.  not real no but like i said what game does, especially when it comes to a fire breathing dragon. 

hoe can you say the explosions don't look good when the stuff goes flying in the air. it is just not fire but the all the wood is flying ect. looks like the gas station demo at e3. the water affets are impressive. when there is a explosion on top of the water a wave comes and moves rocks on the shore. the physics of this game looks very epressive. think about it. 2000 enimies, explosions, water effects with the explosions,dragons flying over head, ships coming in, ect. and NO slowdowns it is not even a final build. you would be blind for not seeing all of this stuff. i have not seen one 360 game that has this much envirmental things going on like this.GARRYTH

lol 

I think this is the same footage shown at TGS last year.

So hence why the graphics look bad.

[QUOTE="Freebird8877"][QUOTE="Dragon-Fire"][QUOTE="Freebird8877"]

It looks good to me. Don't like it, don't buy it. Thats what I always say.

Dragon-Fire

now that is a really smart thing to do... not buy a great game just because of bad fire effects...:roll:

and im sorry to say this but I really cant see them changing the effects drastically untill release:cry:

So why are you on here nit-picking about one little thing? They look fine. And as far as we know, this game could suck, so I wouldn't call it a great game until it's out.

Well, from what I read this game is going to have a great story. and thats the most important thing about a game IMO.

Iv'e just watched the new footage on gametrailers, and it looks great. the fire is still to bright, but only on some levels(the green one). the castle fire looked great.

Im nitpicking only because the fire is the only problem with this games visuals, I just loved how you could see swords and shields flying around as your dragon kill them, and also I loved how you can lift monsters and hurl them at the enemy, kind of like in LOTR :D

Oh, well yeah, this does look great! Have you seen this one? http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=18550&type=mov&pl=game If so, watch it agian, It's that good.