A must Read Rant for PS3 Owners

http://i-luv-games.com/?p=578

This is a must read for anyone who owns a ps3.

The letter from Sony PR is incompetent enough to be authentic.

As a long time ps3 owner I would have to agree that it seems that Sony (since this thing has launched) has done the bare minimum with the ps3 and it's probably going to be the last sony product I ever buy.

I was already pretty fed up with them before this psn fiasco and I don't think there's any way for them to get out of my crap list this time.

What about you? Fed up yet?

http://i-luv-games.com/?p=578

This is a must read for anyone who owns a ps3.

The letter from Sony PR is incompetent enough to be authentic.

As a long time ps3 owner I would have to agree that it seems that Sony (since this thing has launched) has done the bare minimum with the ps3 and it's probably going to be the last sony product I ever buy.

I was already pretty fed up with them before this psn fiasco and I don't think there's any way for them to get out of my crap list this time.

What about you? Fed up yet?

LeifLongbottom

Not fed up.

Why was that a must read? Complete waste of my time.

dont get me wrong it sucks that psn is down. and no i didnt take the time to read the rant. all i know is i only game on ps3 so im in it with sony for the long haul. i feel like the ps3 still offers me another couple of years of good gaming so just as long as psn gets working again and sony keeps coming out with great games i dont see why this wont all blow over and be forgotten. the important thing is ill get over psn being down and im sure alot of other people will as well. but sony better reconize and get thier crap together cuz ill give them a free pass this time but if hackers are a continuing problem and psn is constantly down trying to fight them off then i guess there is a chance i wont be gaming on a ps4

If someboby hacked into your computer, who would you blame?

....yourself? for not having enough security?

....or the Hacker? for invading your privacy, trying to steal from you?

While I am admittedly peeved at Sony and have been considering buying a 360, I'm not done with them yet. For better or worse, I have a lot of money invested in the PS3, so it makes it difficult to just ditch the system. Also, I don't feel that Xbox Live is reason enough to ditch the PS3 for the 360, and as it stands right now PS3 has more games that I'm interested in terms of exclusives.

As for next-gen, it will be the same as it always is for me - determine which console offers me the best gaming experience, regardless of how a company's past products have been. In other words, I'm not going to buy a PS4 just because I bought a PS3, nor will I ignore the next Xbox because I don't have a 360. Whatever one is the best for myself, I will choose. Ditching Sony at this point would make little sense.

Am I pissed at Sony overall ?? Yes....am I done with them?? No...as long as the are going above and beyond to make things right, I'm still cool with them.:)

I'm a Sony fan for the quality of their consoles and the games on them, not for the quality of their PR releases.

Why was that a must read? Complete waste of my time.

Ultrabeatdown55

dont get me wrong it sucks that psn is down. and no i didnt take the time to read the rant. all i know is i only game on ps3 so im in it with sony for the long haul. i feel like the ps3 still offers me another couple of years of good gaming so just as long as psn gets working again and sony keeps coming out with great games i dont see why this wont all blow over and be forgotten. the important thing is ill get over psn being down and im sure alot of other people will as well. but sony better reconize and get thier crap together cuz ill give them a free pass this time but if hackers are a continuing problem and psn is constantly down trying to fight them off then i guess there is a chance i wont be gaming on a ps4

hackett_80

Oh good. Someone who isn't a rabid fanboy who's willing to defend Sony for anything short of treason.

So, I need to ask (and it might help if you read the article I linked in the OP): what would it take for you to finally be fed up?

What I guess wasn't clear is that this isn't another rant about how crappy it is that psn is still down. To tell you the truth, of all the disappointments I've experienced by being a ps3 owner, the fact that their network was hacked isn't as annoying as how they plan to make it up to us or the features the machine has lost or the fact that every firmware update from now on will (like with the psp) probably just be to continue the futile war against hackers rather than improving the functionality of the machine so we wont want to hack it in the first place.

Au Revoir Sony

Nope. Not fed up. Embarrassing situation and a black eye, but not fed up. Not about to give up on the console with the best library of games. Having grown up with consoles from the early 80's and late 70's let's you enjoy gaming without the need for a constant network connection.

[QUOTE="hackett_80"]

dont get me wrong it sucks that psn is down. and no i didnt take the time to read the rant. all i know is i only game on ps3 so im in it with sony for the long haul. i feel like the ps3 still offers me another couple of years of good gaming so just as long as psn gets working again and sony keeps coming out with great games i dont see why this wont all blow over and be forgotten. the important thing is ill get over psn being down and im sure alot of other people will as well. but sony better reconize and get thier crap together cuz ill give them a free pass this time but if hackers are a continuing problem and psn is constantly down trying to fight them off then i guess there is a chance i wont be gaming on a ps4

LeifLongbottom

Oh good. Someone who isn't a rabid fanboy who's willing to defend Sony for anything short of treason.

So, I need to ask (and it might help if you read the article I linked in the OP): what would it take for you to finally be fed up?

What I guess wasn't clear is that this isn't another rant about how crappy it is that psn is still down. To tell you the truth, of all the disappointments I've experienced by being a ps3 owner, the fact that their network was hacked isn't as annoying as how they plan to make it up to us or the features the machine has lost or the fact that every firmware update from now on will (like with the psp) probably just be to continue the futile war against hackers rather than improving the functionality of the machine so we wont want to hack it in the first place.

I agree with you the "reward" is pretty crappy. A free month of PS+? Wu-ho, I get access to a few free games for a month and then it's all gone again. If anything they're trying to get more people to subscribe to the service, instead of giving people permanent access to a select free game. Really Sony? That's the best you have to reward me and other customers for our loyalty? I'm not feeling a sense of gratitude for my patience.

I blame the hackers. Doesn't matter what Sony did or didn't do, anything can be hacked with time and resources. Hackers are scum, end of story!

[QUOTE="LeifLongbottom"]

[QUOTE="hackett_80"]

dont get me wrong it sucks that psn is down. and no i didnt take the time to read the rant. all i know is i only game on ps3 so im in it with sony for the long haul. i feel like the ps3 still offers me another couple of years of good gaming so just as long as psn gets working again and sony keeps coming out with great games i dont see why this wont all blow over and be forgotten. the important thing is ill get over psn being down and im sure alot of other people will as well. but sony better reconize and get thier crap together cuz ill give them a free pass this time but if hackers are a continuing problem and psn is constantly down trying to fight them off then i guess there is a chance i wont be gaming on a ps4

Vari3ty

Oh good. Someone who isn't a rabid fanboy who's willing to defend Sony for anything short of treason.

So, I need to ask (and it might help if you read the article I linked in the OP): what would it take for you to finally be fed up?

What I guess wasn't clear is that this isn't another rant about how crappy it is that psn is still down. To tell you the truth, of all the disappointments I've experienced by being a ps3 owner, the fact that their network was hacked isn't as annoying as how they plan to make it up to us or the features the machine has lost or the fact that every firmware update from now on will (like with the psp) probably just be to continue the futile war against hackers rather than improving the functionality of the machine so we wont want to hack it in the first place.

I agree with you the "reward" is pretty crappy. A free month of PS+? Wu-ho, I get access to a few free games for a month and then it's all gone again. If anything they're trying to get more people to subscribe to the service, instead of giving people permanent access to a select free game. Really Sony? That's the best you have to reward me and other customers for our loyalty? I'm not feeling a sense of gratitude for my patience.

The unfortunate part about the world we live in today is that everyone seems to have this attitude of self-entitlement that lends itself to greed. If Sony had initially came out and said everyone on PSN gets a $10 credit in their PSN Wallet, people would be asking for $20. Give them a mini, they want a full PS3 game. LeifLongbottom asked the question, what would it take for you to finally be fed up? I'd like to ask the question, what gift do you feel equals not having online for a month?

Nope. Not fed up. Embarrassing situation and a black eye, but not fed up. Not about to give up on the console with the best library of games. Having grown up with consoles from the early 80's and late 70's let's you enjoy gaming without the need for a constant network connection.

TheMoreYouOwn

Once again. This is not just about psn still being down. It's about that, they way they plan on "rewarding" us for putting up with them, and all of the crap we've had to put up with since the ps3 launched.

I've been playing games since the Intellivision too and I've never had a console that was so disappointing. What bothers me so much is that it has so much potential and rather than exploit that potential, sony only seems interested in exploiting their few remaining loyal customers.

[QUOTE="TheMoreYouOwn"]

Nope. Not fed up. Embarrassing situation and a black eye, but not fed up. Not about to give up on the console with the best library of games. Having grown up with consoles from the early 80's and late 70's let's you enjoy gaming without the need for a constant network connection.

LeifLongbottom

Once again. This is not just about psn still being down. It's about that, they way they plan on "rewarding" us for putting up with them, and all of the crap we've had to put up with since the ps3 launched.

I've been playing games since the Intellivision too and I've never had a console that was so disappointing. What bothers me so much is that it has so much potential and rather than exploit that potential, sony only seems interested in exploiting their few remaining loyal customers.

Please elaborate on how Sony is "exploiting" their customers.

[QUOTE="Vari3ty"]

[QUOTE="LeifLongbottom"]

Oh good. Someone who isn't a rabid fanboy who's willing to defend Sony for anything short of treason.

So, I need to ask (and it might help if you read the article I linked in the OP): what would it take for you to finally be fed up?

What I guess wasn't clear is that this isn't another rant about how crappy it is that psn is still down. To tell you the truth, of all the disappointments I've experienced by being a ps3 owner, the fact that their network was hacked isn't as annoying as how they plan to make it up to us or the features the machine has lost or the fact that every firmware update from now on will (like with the psp) probably just be to continue the futile war against hackers rather than improving the functionality of the machine so we wont want to hack it in the first place.

The_Rick_14

I agree with you the "reward" is pretty crappy. A free month of PS+? Wu-ho, I get access to a few free games for a month and then it's all gone again. If anything they're trying to get more people to subscribe to the service, instead of giving people permanent access to a select free game. Really Sony? That's the best you have to reward me and other customers for our loyalty? I'm not feeling a sense of gratitude for my patience.

The unfortunate part about the world we live in today is that everyone seems to have this attitude of self-entitlement that lends itself to greed. If Sony had initially came out and said everyone on PSN gets a $10 credit in their PSN Wallet, people would be asking for $20. Give them a mini, they want a full PS3 game. LeifLongbottom asked the question, what would it take for you to finally be fed up? I'd like to ask the question, what gift do you feel equals not having online for a month?

Pretty much my exact thoughts. We have a blackout that's aggravating and making a lot of people angry, but when it's time for me to purchase a new console, I'm not going to be basing my opinion on a single isolated case. It's not as if my console has completely stopped working.

As a long time ps3 owner I would have to agree that it seems that Sony (since this thing has launched) has done the bare minimum with the ps3 LeifLongbottom

I don't see how this is a must read. I'm not done with Sony and I'm not selling my PS3, and I'm not sure if I would be getting a Playstation 4 anyway if I do it will probably be a long time before I get one. And I was originally planning on buying an Xbox 360 anyway and PSN down isn't the reason I will be since I am actually interested in some of the games for that system, but I will be getting a PSP first.

[QUOTE="TheMoreYouOwn"]

Nope. Not fed up. Embarrassing situation and a black eye, but not fed up. Not about to give up on the console with the best library of games. Having grown up with consoles from the early 80's and late 70's let's you enjoy gaming without the need for a constant network connection.

LeifLongbottom

Once again. This is not just about psn still being down. It's about that, they way they plan on "rewarding" us for putting up with them, and all of the crap we've had to put up with since the ps3 launched.

I've been playing games since the Intellivision too and I've never had a console that was so disappointing. What bothers me so much is that it has so much potential and rather than exploit that potential, sony only seems interested in exploiting their few remaining loyal customers.

Exploit their customers? Please. They offer a product, you choose to purchase it. They give you a free service, that service goes down for a bit, you demand the world on a silver platter. Keep using Sony's products or don't. Nobody cares ether way.

Ughhh... what a waste of time.

If I owned a console for 4 years, invested hundreds in it and ran into an unfortunate blip in its lifespan, ie, this PSN nonsense....to be honest I just don't care enough to do something as pissy and melodramatic as ditch it or the company's future products. I'd come crawling back one day.Floppy_Jim

Why was that a must read? Complete waste of my time.

Ultrabeatdown55

Am I pissed at Sony overall ?? Yes....am I done with them?? No...as long as the are going above and beyond to make things right, I'm still cool with them.:)

MarcRecon

Said it before, and I'll say it again. Love the PlayStation consoles, hate the damn company.

I've hated Sony since the PS2 era, but that didn't stop me from enjoying the PS3. Three years ago, the PS3 was bringing up the rear in the console race. Now, three years later, it has surpassed the competition in EVERY way (the best exclusive franchises, the best overall game library, scratch-resistant 25 GB capacity blu-ray medium,the most powerful and efficient machine, and the slim PS3 has improved upon its predecessor in every way).

That fact alone is worth putting up with Sony to experience the greatest console to date.

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]If I owned a console for 4 years, invested hundreds in it and ran into an unfortunate blip in its lifespan, ie, this PSN nonsense....to be honest I just don't care enough to do something as pissy and melodramatic as ditch it or the company's future products. I'd come crawling back one day.supa_badman

If someboby hacked into your computer, who would you blame?

....yourself? for not having enough security?

....or the Hacker? for invading your privacy, trying to steal from you?

Chelseablu

yes it sucks that psn is down, but being mad at sony is absurd. there is no possible way to build a network that is 100% hack proof. what happened to psn could happen to ANY network.

if you are angry, the hackers are obviously where you need to direct your anger

If someboby hacked into your computer, who would you blame?

....yourself? for not having enough security?

....or the Hacker? for invading your privacy, trying to steal from you?

Chelseablu

Why was that a must read? Complete waste of my time.

Ultrabeatdown55

I'm a Sony fan for the quality of their consoles and the games on them, not for the quality of their PR releases.

worlock77

I'm too invested in my PS3 to ditch it and I like a lot of the exclusives that are coming up. However, next gen is another story.

The way Sony has handled the PS3 will definitely be a factor in which console I buy next gen. The bad pricing decisions ($600 console),the mishandling of exclusives (letting Microsoft have them), the mishandling of multiplats (letting developers get away with lesser quality ports for the PS3), allowing Sony customers to be treated as 2nd class citizens when it come to dlc (timed delays, exclusive dlcs going to Microsoft),and finally,the mishandling of PSN (even before the outage Sony allowed hackers to infest PSN,and took an overly long time to release upates to fight the cheaters). These things will definitely affect my decision on which console to buy next gen.If Microsoft puts up a decent machine next gen, I am ready to jump ship.

I'm not done with Sony but I definitely do not trust them...at all. Never again will they have my credit card info, and all my info will be fake from now on as well. They can try and gain my trust back over time...

Why was that a must read? Complete waste of my time.

Ultrabeatdown55

Im fed up.

To be fair Ive defended Sony to people in the PSN down thread and told them to wait. Ive gone back on my own advice. Between ps3 and xbox issues I cant be bothered anymore. So yes I have sold my PS3. To put towards a PC. I was wondering about it for some time and this whole psn thing has to be honest made my mind up.

I wont be boycotting sony by all meens Im just getting out of the console game completly to go onto PC gaming where I started before this gen anyway. I have family who work for sony so I'll still be usuing the staff shop for other products but consoles on the whole..meh m just bored on the whole of lack of user content, customisation and relying on old hardware.

It would take Sony to start charging for online play, before I got fed up with them.

You want to rant on something, rant on the hackers. In fact, rant on GeoHack himself. As soon as I saw his blog a year ago detailing the Other OS hack, my heart sank. I knew disaster was going to be the result. Publicity was his motive, and he got that and then some. Next you can rag on Anonymous for their declaration of war on Sony. It was the perfect smokescreen for any hacker ready to cause trouble. So here we are, not because of Sony, but these hacks and their stupidity. If Nintendo or Microsoft was targeted in the same fashion, they would be down as well. No one could have stood up to this kind of massive hacker attack.-ArchAngeL-777-

Once again, the article I posted isn't just a "Arrg PSN is still down" rant. It's about the shoddy support from the beginning.

Maybe they could've avoided this whole fiasco by not taking away features like the other OS and declaring war on hackers. They should've known better.

What they should've done instead of updating the console with anti-hack firmware every two weeks is update it with features people wanted in the console instead of taking features away (other os) or letting them deteriorate into uselessness (web browser). That would've been a good deterrent against people wanting to hack their console.

As for hacking the network, I do agree that there wasn't anything they could've done to prevent this AFTER they threw down that gauntlet but they certainly could've done more to protect our info and their appeasement attempt is more insulting than appeasing.

If they really want to appease us, they can start giving the console some decent support: add in features that people have been asking for since launch like cross game chat and custom soundtracks. That would deter a lot more hacking than even the constant anti-hack firmware.

If someboby hacked into your computer, who would you blame?

....yourself? for not having enough security?

....or the Hacker? for invading your privacy, trying to steal from you?

Chelseablu

If the hacker used a system that you agreed upon was safe and secure and it was based speciifcally upon the contractual agreement.. Its the companies fault.. Sony under contract accepted the information would never fall into the wrong hands.. They screwed up, and I hope they get their brains sued out.. Why you say? Because it seems like now a days this is the only way to get through corporations heads that they can't cut corners with stuff like this.. Hackers a daily fact of life, the fact of the matter is their contract agreement guarenteed that information would be safe and secure.. And to add more fuel to the fire is through out the years with the same slogan of "it only does everything" leads us to PS3 which has either completely cut out features or hasn't updated them what so ever.. At this time I would say the functionality of the PS3 is matched with XBL if not alittle less.. Simply due tot he fact that the Internet explorer has been useless for a long time now due to not being able to update flash on it.. Basically preventing you from basically using what the majority of us were using it for before hand.. That is to watch videos, livestreams, and internet tv..

[QUOTE="-ArchAngeL-777-"]You want to rant on something, rant on the hackers. In fact, rant on GeoHack himself. As soon as I saw his blog a year ago detailing the Other OS hack, my heart sank. I knew disaster was going to be the result. Publicity was his motive, and he got that and then some. Next you can rag on Anonymous for their declaration of war on Sony. It was the perfect smokescreen for any hacker ready to cause trouble. So here we are, not because of Sony, but these hacks and their stupidity. If Nintendo or Microsoft was targeted in the same fashion, they would be down as well. No one could have stood up to this kind of massive hacker attack.LeifLongbottom

Once again, the article I posted isn't just a "Arrg PSN is still down" rant. It's about the shoddy support from the beginning.

Maybe they could've avoided this whole fiasco by not taking away features like the other OS and declaring war on hackers. They should've known better.

What they should've done instead of updating the console with anti-hack firmware every two weeks is update it with features people wanted in the console instead of taking features away (other os) or letting them deteriorate into uselessness (web browser). That would've been a good deterrent against people wanting to hack their console.

As for hacking the network, I do agree that there wasn't anything they could've done to prevent this AFTER they threw down that gauntlet but they certainly could've done more to protect our info and their appeasement attempt is more insulting than appeasing.

If they really want to appease us, they can start giving the console some decent support: add in features that people have been asking for since launch like cross game chat and custom soundtracks. That would deter a lot more hacking than even the constant anti-hack firmware.

I'm not finished done with Sony. In fact i will still buy there products because they are quality. They still have an amazing line up for this year and single player still works just fine. That being said I can not wait for the PSN to be back up so I can play some Uncharted 2 Multiplayer. If you play Uncharted 2 multiplayer Add me ShishcabobShiggy

Once again, the article I posted isn't just a "Arrg PSN is still down" rant. It's about the shoddy support from the beginning.

Maybe they could've avoided this whole fiasco by not taking away features like the other OS and declaring war on hackers. They should've known better.

What they should've done instead of updating the console with anti-hack firmware every two weeks is update it with features people wanted in the console instead of taking features away (other os) or letting them deteriorate into uselessness (web browser). That would've been a good deterrent against people wanting to hack their console.

As for hacking the network, I do agree that there wasn't anything they could've done to prevent this AFTER they threw down that gauntlet but they certainly could've done more to protect our info and their appeasement attempt is more insulting than appeasing.

If they really want to appease us, they can start giving the console some decent support: add in features that people have been asking for since launch like cross game chat and custom soundtracks. That would deter a lot more hacking than even the constant anti-hack firmware.

LeifLongbottom

And on the matter of custom soundtracks, I'm going to post it again. It's a patent issue. Microsoft has a patent for doing custom soundtracks like the 360 does it. Making the developers do it on a title by title basis was Sony's way of getting the user custom soundtracks without violating the patent. Unfortunately, developers don't seem to think it's as important as gamers do. And please before anyone fires back with "That's Bull" read the patent for yourselves at the link provided at the bottom.

Cross game chat may be a similar situation, or Sony may just have chosen not to implement it. That one I don't know. I do know that having cross game chat would not stop piracy.

LINK TO CUSTOM SOUNDTRACKS PATENT FROM US PATENT OFFICE