After a few hours playing Demon's Souls... was this really GOTY?

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#1 KristoffBrujah
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Okay, I admit buying this game (on Gamespot's recommendation) and playing for only 3 or 4 hours, but it seems pretty old school. The best comparison is Diablo, the original. You get a quest, hardly any cutscenes or character interaction, and mostly dungeon crawling. I do like the difficulty, it's refreshing but not in a frustrating way.

But really, was this GOTY? Gameplay wise, it reminds me of something from 1997 rather than 2009. Even the graphics are old school. Or am I missing a complete revamping of the engine/gameplay later on in the game?

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#2 REforever101
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i'm really liking the game so far (i'm at the flamelurker, and i'm totally stuck though...)

i dont think its goty however...

though the way multiplayer implementation is one of the most original things i've seen in the past year

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we all got different taste.
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Okay, I admit buying this game (on Gamespot's recommendation) and playing for only 3 or 4 hours, but it seems pretty old school. The best comparison is Diablo, the original. You get a quest, hardly any cutscenes or character interaction, and mostly dungeon crawling. I do like the difficulty, it's refreshing but not in a frustrating way.

But really, was this GOTY? Gameplay wise, it reminds me of something from 1997 rather than 2009. Even the graphics are old school. Or am I missing a complete revamping of the engine/gameplay later on in the game?

KristoffBrujah
gamespot allowed themselves to be blown off by the "amazing integrated online features" which should only stay as a nice extra and not a reason to get GOTY
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#5 deactivated-5bc291bf3d647
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i think it might have won on a lot of nostalgia from the editors... they must miss the old days :P
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#6 paperdollparade
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I've been playing the game for almost 9 months now and it's still the most fun I've had in a game this decade. definitely deserved the GOTY award imo.

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#7 360hammer
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i think it might have won on a lot of nostalgia from the editors... they must miss the old days :Pyarou1000

Or could it be that the game offers a ton of gameplay hours for those who liked the game? I mean I've put in 60+ hours on the game my first play through and impossible to get all special weapons, spells, and miracles in 1 play through.

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#8 deactivated-5bc291bf3d647
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[QUOTE="yarou1000"]i think it might have won on a lot of nostalgia from the editors... they must miss the old days :P360hammer

Or could it be that the game offers a ton of gameplay hours for those who liked the game? I mean I've put in 60+ hours on the game my first play through and impossible to get all special weapons, spells, and miracles in 1 play through.

im not a big fan of long single player games.... i much prefer a short( not to small; somewhere between 7 to 20 hours) campaign and a well fleshed out and fun multiplayer... thats why i am not buying demon's souls... im just going to borrow it from a friend i think....
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#9 BZSIN
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To each their own. It's definitely a worthy winner IMO.

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#10 Doolz2024
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I honestly don't get how it won GOTY. A contender for it? Why of course, but I don't think it should've won over Uncharted 2

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#11 Essian
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the game is definitely great, and I am really loving it, but I agree that it was probably not GOTY... there were other games that were just astounding in every way, not just in great gameplay and online innovation.
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#12 kate_jones
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I put alot of hours into this game, more than any other in 2009 (way more than uncharted2), was glad to see it get goty at gamespot

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Nothing realy in particular makes DS shine out. It's just simply old-school fun. Simple gameplay but extremely deep and addicting.
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the minimal cutscenes and dialogue (and even the dialogue...are they really talking?) add a lot to the atmosphere and immersion. you arent told everything thats going on so much as you experience it. you have the miners driven to by greed to madness, picking away for wealth with most of theem oblivious to anything else. the castle dwellers are looking to defend their things despite its rapid decay. its not a cinematic game like many of us are accustomed to, but its an excellent game that deserved game of the year.
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Gameplay wise, it reminds me of something from 1997 rather than 2009. Even the graphics are old school. Or am I missing a complete revamping of the engine/gameplay later on in the game?

KristoffBrujah
Good thing gameplay in 1997 RPGs were just as good, if not better than gameplay in 2009 RPGs.
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Hey. Stuff happens when old school difficulty returns.
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#17 amsfm6
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Well it's not for everyone, but it does get more fun the more you play. The first 8 hours or so are pretty daunting.

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#18 R7_3
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Play the game som more, then make your judgement. You can only judge this game after about 15 hours of gameplay or so, because it takes awhile to get used to everything, and actually know what everything does(enemy weaknesses etc.)

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#19 crazypal
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well, I think with people focusing their eyes on the difficulty they aremissing the real beauty of demon's souls. it's not even hard, it's fair. it is so much more than just a hard game. it's an RPG with endless possibilities meeting shadow of the colossus.
it is that thrill you feel and the cold sweat dripping off of ya when you see that accursed message "you've been invaded". you ARE REALLY afraid cuz this time if you get killed you have something to lose.
the seemless online implementation where in one second you are waiting to help another player by being a blue phantom only to discover that you are summoned to be his boss !! INCREDIBLE :)
the atmospheric environments, the hours you'll invest in it, hundreds as compared to batman's and uncharted's 20 hours lifespans.
if all that doesn't guarantee it a GOTY then what does?
don't get me wrong I voted for uncharted but you can't blame anyone for picking it as GOTY.
at least give some credit to the brave guys who made this masterpiece and dared to try an unproven formula and gave us something different :)

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#20 Eazy1891
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youre crazy about the graphics dawg the game is beautiful....but anyway the game doesnt really need story and cutscenes to be good if you ask me...but nah this game isnt my GOTY for me...i think gamespot just did this because they wanted to be different than everyone else with U2....thats my GOTY

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[QUOTE="KristoffBrujah"]

Okay, I admit buying this game (on Gamespot's recommendation) and playing for only 3 or 4 hours, but it seems pretty old school. The best comparison is Diablo, the original. You get a quest, hardly any cutscenes or character interaction, and mostly dungeon crawling. I do like the difficulty, it's refreshing but not in a frustrating way.

But really, was this GOTY? Gameplay wise, it reminds me of something from 1997 rather than 2009. Even the graphics are old school. Or am I missing a complete revamping of the engine/gameplay later on in the game?

lightleggy

gamespot allowed themselves to be blown off by the "amazing integrated online features" which should only stay as a nice extra and not a reason to get GOTY

Someone's butt-hurt.

It could have been the excellent level design, entirely new approach to difficulty and how to play a game. As opposed to God of War's mindless hack and slash style, though everyone goes nuts over it cause Kratos looks cool while doing it. Don't get me wrong, love GoW, but let's be real here. The boss are well imagined, and each are interesting. The graphics are gorgeous, as is the ambience and the combat sound effects, everything from the slashing of the sword to the groan of the enemies. Let's not forget the amazing atmosphere within the game, convincing you that the world is alive, and has gone to hell.

THAT is more likely the reason that it was GOTY. kthx.

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[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="KristoffBrujah"]

Okay, I admit buying this game (on Gamespot's recommendation) and playing for only 3 or 4 hours, but it seems pretty old school. The best comparison is Diablo, the original. You get a quest, hardly any cutscenes or character interaction, and mostly dungeon crawling. I do like the difficulty, it's refreshing but not in a frustrating way.

But really, was this GOTY? Gameplay wise, it reminds me of something from 1997 rather than 2009. Even the graphics are old school. Or am I missing a complete revamping of the engine/gameplay later on in the game?

Khadaj32

gamespot allowed themselves to be blown off by the "amazing integrated online features" which should only stay as a nice extra and not a reason to get GOTY

Someone's butt-hurt.

It could have been the excellent level design, entirely new approach to difficulty and how to play a game. As opposed to God of War's mindless hack and slash style, though everyone goes nuts over it cause Kratos looks cool while doing it. Don't get me wrong, love GoW, but let's be real here. The boss are well imagined, and each are interesting. The graphics are gorgeous, as is the ambience and the combat sound effects, everything from the slashing of the sword to the groan of the enemies. Let's not forget the amazing atmosphere within the game, convincing you that the world is alive, and has gone to hell.

THAT is more likely the reason that it was GOTY. kthx.

*Thumbs up for logic*
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[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="KristoffBrujah"]

Okay, I admit buying this game (on Gamespot's recommendation) and playing for only 3 or 4 hours, but it seems pretty old school. The best comparison is Diablo, the original. You get a quest, hardly any cutscenes or character interaction, and mostly dungeon crawling. I do like the difficulty, it's refreshing but not in a frustrating way.

But really, was this GOTY? Gameplay wise, it reminds me of something from 1997 rather than 2009. Even the graphics are old school. Or am I missing a complete revamping of the engine/gameplay later on in the game?

Khadaj32

gamespot allowed themselves to be blown off by the "amazing integrated online features" which should only stay as a nice extra and not a reason to get GOTY

Someone's butt-hurt.

It could have been the excellent level design, entirely new approach to difficulty and how to play a game. As opposed to God of War's mindless hack and slash style, though everyone goes nuts over it cause Kratos looks cool while doing it. Don't get me wrong, love GoW, but let's be real here. The boss are well imagined, and each are interesting. The graphics are gorgeous, as is the ambience and the combat sound effects, everything from the slashing of the sword to the groan of the enemies. Let's not forget the amazing atmosphere within the game, convincing you that the world is alive, and has gone to hell.

THAT is more likely the reason that it was GOTY. kthx.

Ah someone with a brain touché my friend touché

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[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="KristoffBrujah"] [QUOTE="Khadaj32"]

[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="KristoffBrujah"]

Okay, I admit buying this game (on Gamespot's recommendation) and playing for only 3 or 4 hours, but it seems pretty old school. The best comparison is Diablo, the original. You get a quest, hardly any cutscenes or character interaction, and mostly dungeon crawling. I do like the difficulty, it's refreshing but not in a frustrating way.

But really, was this GOTY? Gameplay wise, it reminds me of something from 1997 rather than 2009. Even the graphics are old school. Or am I missing a complete revamping of the engine/gameplay later on in the game?

Khadaj32

gamespot allowed themselves to be blown off by the "amazing integrated online features" which should only stay as a nice extra and not a reason to get GOTY

Someone's butt-hurt.

It could have been the excellent level design, entirely new approach to difficulty and how to play a game. As opposed to God of War's mindless hack and slash style, though everyone goes nuts over it cause Kratos looks cool while doing it. Don't get me wrong, love GoW, but let's be real here. The boss are well imagined, and each are interesting. The graphics are gorgeous, as is the ambience and the combat sound effects, everything from the slashing of the sword to the groan of the enemies. Let's not forget the amazing atmosphere within the game, convincing you that the world is alive, and has gone to hell.

THAT is more likely the reason that it was GOTY. kthx.

Don't forget the fact that this game gets your adrenaline pumping when you fight EVERY boss. Which totally immerses you in the game, which none of the other next gen games are able to do. Like in UC2 when you fight the final boss and lose it really is not a big deal. I like UC2 for the record.

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Definitely not GOTY but a good game nonetheless. GOTY is, hands down, Uncharted 2 because no game matched it in 2009.
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#26 bellolugosi
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I put alot of hours into this game, more than any other in 2009 (way more than uncharted2), was glad to see it get goty at gamespot

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Agreed!

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#27 BoxingTheStars
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to me the it is deffinatly GOTY quality the only other game that is competing for the spot in my book is obviously Uncharted 2 but i still havent finished it yet so i cant come to a final decision until i beat both games

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[QUOTE="KristoffBrujah"]

Okay, I admit buying this game (on Gamespot's recommendation) and playing for only 3 or 4 hours, but it seems pretty old school. The best comparison is Diablo, the original. You get a quest, hardly any cutscenes or character interaction, and mostly dungeon crawling. I do like the difficulty, it's refreshing but not in a frustrating way.

But really, was this GOTY? Gameplay wise, it reminds me of something from 1997 rather than 2009. Even the graphics are old school. Or am I missing a complete revamping of the engine/gameplay later on in the game?

People have different tastes... Gamespot has its explanation why they gave it the GOTY... i think it's deserving... could be Uncharted 2 or Assassin's Creed II... but one of the distinctive difference is that it's a new gameplay with an old scholl touch, while the others that i've mentioned were much improved sequels, but still the same formula...
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youre crazy about the graphics dawg the game is beautiful....

Eazy1891

As this guy shows, demon's souls fooled a lot of people.

It's one of the jaggiest i've seen this gen, and omg super frame rate diiiiiiiiiive

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i certainly don't think so. it looks like the first run of ps3 games. it lacks a real story the worlds are all static. the combat gets very repetitive it has a very simplistic leveling system. to me its hardly innovative at all in fact its the exact opposite it tries to take from old games and give a diablo like experience, and in my opinion it fails at that. gamespot has the right to give what ever game them want goty, however their reasons just seem utterly ridiculous and the game doesn't back up any of their reasons. its nostaligia and "gamer cred" that seems to be the real reason this games getting attention. it really requires patience more then skill.
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Ask me? Just google zero punctation and watch their review! I could take the game anymore so i sold it to a friend of mine, who aparently is having the same experiance :lol:
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I will soon play this game, but from a spectator's viewpoint I can only say it is very boring to look at :/
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Its Definetely and Easily the game of the year. Other competitor was Uncharted 2. These are two games that were supreme last year and if you cant feel it there can be two reasons:

1. Retire from gaming and do some Farming

2. Your taste is really bad . Admit it.

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#35 bellolugosi
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[QUOTE="Eazy1891"]

youre crazy about the graphics dawg the game is beautiful....

Phacet

As this guy shows, demon's souls fooled a lot of people.

It's one of the jaggiest i've seen this gen, and omg super frame rate diiiiiiiiiive

I don't feel fooled at all... We've got different tastes that's all! The frame rate issues are Ok. I wonder what you'll say about Bayonetta...

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I've never seen a game so deserving of GOTY! The game looks amazing with some of the deepest atmoshpere I've ever seen inside my TV. It really sucks you in. To say the graphics in DS are bad is SOOO far fetched. The gameplay isn't old school at all. I can't think of many games that give so many different characters their own strategic fighting styles and ferocity. You actually have to think about what you're doing to win. I blew through pretty much every other sword game I can remember by spamming the attack buttons. It gets so much fun later on, too, when you're powerful enough to take a blue or red eyed knight out with a single blow. Its like "Haha! Paybacks a b----!!!" Anyway, this game does innovate in so many ways and is totally enjoyable by those who really give it a chance and enjoy such genre in the first place. This will take you to another dimension. It needs no introduction, story, character interaction, blah, blah, blah.... This game has great atmosphere, great gameplay, and giant demons to slay! Its like Shadow of the Colossus 2009!
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This game is GOTY worthy. Uncharted 2 only warranted one play through,this however is all about replaying. You learn something new and interesting every playthrough. The gameplay is unique and challenging and it's just more fun. There is no other game like this, Uncharted 2, Infamous. Seen it all before. Uncharted 2 is almost identical in terms of game play as Uncharted 1 but at least the first was new and exciting. If 1 didn't get it, I don't see how 2 could....
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[QUOTE="KristoffBrujah"]

Okay, I admit buying this game (on Gamespot's recommendation) and playing for only 3 or 4 hours, but it seems pretty old school. The best comparison is Diablo, the original. You get a quest, hardly any cutscenes or character interaction, and mostly dungeon crawling. I do like the difficulty, it's refreshing but not in a frustrating way.

But really, was this GOTY? Gameplay wise, it reminds me of something from 1997 rather than 2009. Even the graphics are old school. Or am I missing a complete revamping of the engine/gameplay later on in the game?

I think the online features are some of the game's greatest strengths. If you haven't beaten the first boss, you haven't been exposed to this aspect yet, so hold off with your judgment if that's the case. I felt like the level design was fantastic, and I loved the fighting style. I disagree that the gameplay is oldschool. I thought it was realistic and responsive. My only beef with the game is the fact that the tendency system is confusing and never adequetly explained. But it is definately one of my top 3 games of '09, if not the #1.
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Well i did enjoy the game and the boss fights. But if ur talking about an RPG game u certainly need plots and character developments, all of which is clearly lacking in this game. I think GS seems to be blown away by the difficulty of the game and its rather unique online features. So for me, DS is definitely no GoTY material. Pales in comparision to last yr's winner (MGS4).

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#40 TrueIori
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Well i did enjoy the game and the boss fights. But if ur talking about an RPG game u certainly need plots and character developments, all of which is clearly lacking in this game. I think GS seems to be blown away by the difficulty of the game and its rather unique online features. So for me, DS is definitely no GoTY material. Pales in comparision to last yr's winner (MGS4).

rockutd

Ok why are you even comparing Demon Souls with a game from last year? No one asking you to compare DS to other games , the discussion is if DS GOTY year material and it is, so what if it doesn't really have a story or cut scenes like most of today's games , I take it by your stupid comment you don't consider Diablo an rpg because it lacks a story but sorry to burst your bubble DS is so an RPG and if you don't like it go back to your Hanna Montana Final Fantasy with all Flash and no substance ,leave DS for the real RPG fans.

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#41 Keir21
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Well i did enjoy the game and the boss fights. But if ur talking about an RPG game u certainly need plots and character developments, all of which is clearly lacking in this game. I think GS seems to be blown away by the difficulty of the game and its rather unique online features. So for me, DS is definitely no GoTY material. Pales in comparision to last yr's winner (MGS4).

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It's a game not a movie. There are character developments and a deep underlying plot. You just need to discover it.
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Yeah uncharted 2 was robbed imo, what a game it was/is.
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#43 thunderf00t
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i'm really liking the game so far (i'm at the flamelurker, and i'm totally stuck though...)

i dont think its goty however...

though the way multiplayer implementation is one of the most original things i've seen in the past year

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#44 thunderf00t
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It's a game not a movie. There are character developments and a deep underlying plot. You just need to discover it. Keir21
Then please explain it to us, because after fifty hours with the game on several different characters, I found virtually none. The plot is not deep at all, it's a recycled fantasy plot.
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#45 Keir21
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Each NPC have their own backstories and plots to tell. Some weapons themselves have a history behind them. There is a lot to be discovered e.g. about the False King is interesting, executioner Miralda, Lord Rydell etc etc.

The point is, there's enough.

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#46 thunderf00t
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Each NPC have their own backstories and plots to tell. Some weapons themselves have a history behind them. There is a lot to be discovered e.g. about the False King is interesting, executioner Miralda, Lord Rydell etc etc.

The point is, there's enough.

Keir21
For you that may be enough, obviously myself and rockutd disagree.