And Let The " Resident Evil Is Racist" Debate Officially End

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#1 kalan22
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Lets end this stupid discussion. We are americans they r zombies. It happens to be in Africa in a little village of black people. Its a video game. Capcom will get paid while we sit here broke arguing over something stupid. We will beat the game. We will go to the extra content and kill even more zombies. U will have nightmares while u sleep. Cant wait until this game comes out.

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#2 Luxen90
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Well they are probably not even zombies lol.
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#3 jelac07
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I second that notion
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#4 420_Forever
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lol
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#5 -oG-ShAdY
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It's Haiti.... but yeah Zombies/Infested/Infected.... they need to die if they are spreading death.
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#6 9mmSpliff
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Icant believe people even think this game is racist
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#7 NWA_31
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Agreed.
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#8 Luxen90
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And let the real zombies come back in RE6 begin. Also 9mmSpliff this topic isnt made for mentioning what people said about it being racist.
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#10 imstillwaiting
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its only c0mplex that has a problem with this game and i think hes just being stupid
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#11 jdogthebomb09
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How the hell is this racist? They are in Africa, and thereare Africans in Africa. Who else do you expect to be there?
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#12 TelcharXI
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How the hell is this racist? They are in Africa, and thereare Africans in Africa. Who else do you expect to be there?jdogthebomb09

I expect...Nay! Demand Santa Claus

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#13 jackle2071
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yes let it end.
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Every one of you is still missing the point.  You honestly don't see a problem with an already-marginalized group being depicted as inhuman monsters who need to be exterminated?
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Every one of you is still missing the point. You honestly don't see a problem with an already-marginalized group being depicted as inhuman monsters who need to be exterminated?bsbowman

Dude, they are zombies. Zombies are nothing but fiction. Now what group are you talking about?

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#16 longhorn7
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Every one of you is still missing the point. You honestly don't see a problem with an already-marginalized group being depicted as inhuman monsters who need to be exterminated?bsbowman
tha you are missing the point of zombis my friend. also the fact that in africa they are not marginalized. now if this game was set in alabama you would have a point. but in a place that is 99.99 percent black, they are not a minority and it is not racist to have them as zombies. re1-4 all had white people (yes spaniards are in fact, white) and nobody complained about that, you know why? because they were having too much fun playing the damn game.
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#17 814StopsToday
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Lets end this stupid discussion. We are americans they r zombies. It happens to be in Africa in a little village of black people. Its a video game. Capcom will get paid while we sit here broke arguing over something stupid. We will beat the game. We will go to the extra content and kill even more zombies. U will have nightmares while u sleep. Cant wait until this game comes out.

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kalan22

That's Xenophobia, not racism. Unless you consider Americans to be a seperate race, then you have real issues

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#18 bsbowman
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A REAL group (poor Haitians of African descent) are being depicted not as they actually are, but as FICTIONAL flesh-consuming beasts (zombies).  This clearly feeds off the fear and loathing felt by many more priveleged North Americans toward the REAL group.  Hopefully that clears up your feigned confusion.
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#19 longhorn7
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A REAL group (poor Haitians of African descent) are being depicted not as they actually are, but as FICTIONAL flesh-consuming beasts (zombies). This clearly feeds off the fear and loathing felt by many more priveleged North Americans toward the REAL group. Hopefully that clears up your feigned confusion.bsbowman
last time i checked americans dont have anything against haiti or africans. in fact if i am not mistaken haiti is one of our more desirable vacation spots. but what do i know? i just live here.
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A REAL group (poor Haitians of African descent) are being depicted not as they actually are, but as FICTIONAL flesh-consuming beasts (zombies). This clearly feeds off the fear and loathing felt by many more priveleged North Americans toward the REAL group. Hopefully that clears up your feigned confusion.bsbowman

Zombies are not real dude. Now I ask you again, what group are you talkin about?

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#21 Luxen90
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Get out of this topic complaining and agruing about RE5 being racist.Plus you cant even really tell that all zombies was white in RE2 and 3.
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#22 bsbowman
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By the way, everyone understands that these zombies come from the creative minds of the developers, right?  It's not as if there are actual virtual zombies just camped out in the RE gamespace; this is a conscious choice on someone's part to make black people into zombies.  That's what's racist, not the actual fact that the enemies in the trailer are black.
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#23 bsbowman
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[QUOTE="bsbowman"]A REAL group (poor Haitians of African descent) are being depicted not as they actually are, but as FICTIONAL flesh-consuming beasts (zombies). This clearly feeds off the fear and loathing felt by many more priveleged North Americans toward the REAL group. Hopefully that clears up your feigned confusion.jdogthebomb09

Zombies are not real dude. Now I ask you again, what group are you talkin about?



As I clearly just said, poor Haitians of African descent.
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A REAL group (poor Haitians of African descent) are being depicted not as they actually are, but as FICTIONAL flesh-consuming beasts (zombies). This clearly feeds off the fear and loathing felt by many more priveleged North Americans toward the REAL group. Hopefully that clears up your feigned confusion.bsbowman

I'm not feigning anything. there zombies, theyve been zombies for 5 games now AND THIS GAME IS MADE BY THE JAPANESE. Gamespot why are insults not allowed, really i mean this guy deserves it.

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#25 jdogthebomb09
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[QUOTE="jdogthebomb09"]

[QUOTE="bsbowman"]A REAL group (poor Haitians of African descent) are being depicted not as they actually are, but as FICTIONAL flesh-consuming beasts (zombies). This clearly feeds off the fear and loathing felt by many more priveleged North Americans toward the REAL group. Hopefully that clears up your feigned confusion.bsbowman

Zombies are not real dude. Now I ask you again, what group are you talkin about?



As I clearly just said, poor Haitians of African descent.

Your not kiling HAITIANS, you're killing zombies. What part of that do you not understand?

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#27 c0mplex
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i dont think things have ended in this thread.
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#28 Robinho1873
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Is it just me or should this thread be entitled ''And let the resident evil is racist debate be re-ignited'' Can i say to the original poster that your original message was good but it has merely served as a platform for people to debate the issue again. Lockingthis thread maybe a good idea as idiots that have posted here are just making the situation worse
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#29 Abicus7
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any one who chooses a target and thinks of color b4 they pull the trigger is racist.

End of Story! and hopefully the thread too.

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#30 bsbowman
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Guys, this is crazy.  I bring in one dissenting opinion and am met only with ridicule.  I'm just asking that you think about these issues, because these issues are REAL.  You can insult me if you like, but hopefully you'll be able to think critically about what you're seeing.  This'll be my last post on the topic, but I think we should all keep in mind that the key word in this discussion is DEPICTION.
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#31 jdogthebomb09
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any one who chooses a target and thinks of color b4 they pull the trigger is racist.

End of Story! and hopefully the thread too.

Abicus7

Amen Brother!

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#32 Luxen90
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i dont think things have ended in this thread.c0mplex

Hmm I bet people are going to keep on complain and agrue for another 3 days or more.

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A REAL group (poor Haitians of African descent) are being depicted not as they actually are, but as FICTIONAL flesh-consuming beasts (zombies). This clearly feeds off the fear and loathing felt by many more priveleged North Americans toward the REAL group. Hopefully that clears up your feigned confusion.bsbowman

My god, why are people still going on about this? Who gives a flying **** if they are black, white, chinese or aliens? They are zombies.

If it took place in a small Japanese town, would you get offended if they were all asian? Get your head out of your butt and look at the BIG picture. ITS A VIDEO GAME.

Why cant some people just let things go.. they love to stir up trouble or argue their point about a game being racist. ITS NOT.

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#34 TelcharXI
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[QUOTE="c0mplex"]i dont think things have ended in this thread.Luxen90

Hmm I bet people are going to keep on complain and agrue for another 3 days or more.

Yea then something else will happen that will make everyone forget this and move on

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#35 c0mplex
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[QUOTE="Luxen90"]

[QUOTE="c0mplex"]i dont think things have ended in this thread.TelcharXI

Hmm I bet people are going to keep on complain and agrue for another 3 days or more.

Yea then something else will happen that will make everyone forget this and move on

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#36 Denji
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Lets end this stupid discussion. We are americans they r zombies. It happens to be in Africa in a little village of black people. Its a video game. Capcom will get paid while we sit here broke arguing over something stupid. We will beat the game. We will go to the extra content and kill even more zombies. U will have nightmares while u sleep. Cant wait until this game comes out.

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I agree

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#37 c0mplex
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going a bit OT, but who else thinks that if thie RE5 stuff becomes a big deal in terms of mainstream coverage and Jack Thompson doesn't go overboard with lawsuits like he did with R*...

he is going to look a bit racist? despite what you think about this issue... having Jack Thompson go against all types of video game violence, but to not appear on the issue of video game violence towards African Americans would just make him look racist.

i dunno... just a small thought i had.

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#38 rac_fan12
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lol its funny how the media tries to blow everything out of proportion honestly they are just a bunch looser reporters looking for something towrite abouthonestly i dont think thegame is racist but i can see why its percieved that way but still it shouldnt be blown way out of proportion

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#39 ocelotcougar
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Well they are probably not even zombies lol.Luxen90

Just big black men hopped up on PCP.

[spoiler] If you were offended, you haven't seen that episode of Reno 911. [/spoiler]

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Random thoughts on the subject:

You know...Zombies...or the majority of Zombie stories....come from Haiti. In fact, it's part of their religion. Voodoo beliefs reserve Zombification for the worst of the worst people. People who have been believed to be made into Zombies aren't allowed to work, they get shunned by their society and are all around loathed.

Personally, I totally see how someone can read racism into the trailer if that's what they want to do. It's all but asking for it. HOWEVER, I don't think the game is racist (it's a game, it has no feelings) nor do I think the idea behind it was racist in origin. Africa is a place not often done in games (nor is Haiti for that matter) and to be quite frank with you, this is visually one of the best representations of an African (or Haitian) town I've seen in a game. The people look like actual people of color and for part of the game, probably portrayed in a great light (see the opening parts of the trailer as ref). The fact that everything goes to hell in a handbasket is really just to move the story along and were this a choose your own adventure book instead of a videogame, I doubt it'd get more than a "classic horror" nod and no press at all.

I am not my skin. I am a person. I am an individual with a working mind and functioning body. I have feelings, I bleed, I eat, I love, I die. Do I care if someone calls me black? No. I'm not black. My skin is brown. Does it bother me when people in the real world butcher, ridicule and otherwise do harm to someone whose skin is similar to mine? Yes. Is it because of some shared kinship due to the color of our skin? No. It's because they're a fellow human. Once we stop being our skin, we can allow ourselves to be human. We can see beyond our own self love and self hate into a much larger arena. Hopefully, one day, everyone will see this is the only way the human race will improve.

As for the game. It's unfortunate that only this little clip was shown, as I'm sure the game is more than what we've seen it to be. It's equally unfortunate that so many people are quick to judge it without playing it through, allowing their own fears and prejudices to guide their opinion of something they know next to nothing about. You have your gut reaction. Let it rest for now and wait until more information arrives. Then you'll be well within your right to create an educated opinion on the matter. Until then, it's just projection.

Someone made an excellent point that we need more ethnic heroes in gaming. I agree with this, if for no other reason than that it can only help us to see each other in different ways than we normally do.

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#41 Robinho1873
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Random thoughts on the subject:

You know...Zombies...or the majority of Zombie stories....come from Haiti. In fact, it's part of their religion. Voodoo beliefs reserve Zombification for the worst of the worst people. People who have been believed to be made into Zombies aren't allowed to work, they get shunned by their society and are all around loathed.

Personally, I totally see how someone can read racism into the trailer if that's what they want to do. It's all but asking for it. HOWEVER, I don't think the game is racist (it's a game, it has no feelings) nor do I think the idea behind it was racist in origin. Africa is a place not often done in games (nor is Haiti for that matter) and to be quite frank with you, this is visually one of the best representations of an African (or Haitian) town I've seen in a game. The people look like actual people of color and for part of the game, probably portrayed in a great light (see the opening parts of the trailer as ref). The fact that everything goes to hell in a handbasket is really just to move the story along and were this a choose your own adventure book instead of a videogame, I doubt it'd get more than a "classic horror" nod and no press at all.

I am not my skin. I am a person. I am an individual with a working mind and functioning body. I have feelings, I bleed, I eat, I love, I die. Do I care if someone calls me black? No. I'm not black. My skin is brown. Does it bother me when people in the real world butcher, ridicule and otherwise do harm to someone whose skin is similar to mine? Yes. Is it because of some shared kinship due to the color of our skin? No. It's because they're a fellow human. Once we stop being our skin, we can allow ourselves to be human. We can see beyond our own self love and self hate into a much larger arena. Hopefully, one day, everyone will see this is the only way the human race will improve.

As for the game. It's unfortunate that only this little clip was shown, as I'm sure the game is more than what we've seen it to be. It's equally unfortunate that so many people are quick to judge it without playing it through, allowing their own fears and prejudices to guide their opinion of something they know next to nothing about. You have your gut reaction. Let it rest for now and wait until more information arrives. Then you'll be well within your right to creat an educated opinion on the matter. Until then, it's just projection.

Someone made an excellent point that we need more ethnic heroes in gaming. I agree with this, if for no other reason than that it can only help us to see each other in different ways than we normally do.

Teyon

*Applaudes loudly*

Very well said

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#42 kalan22
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Honestly the only thing that I said when I saw the trailer was damn they made the black people extra ugly. Im black myself and I know they could of made us a little better looking. LOL
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#43 Teyon
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Compare it to some of the other games though...I think they did a decent job (on some of the characters). That one guy half-sitting who looks up. His eyes and face were perfect. There were some whose poly counts were obviously too low for the normal mapping process but hey...it beats most games I've seen.
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#44 kalan22
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Now that the discussion is over im going to go watch the trailer again because its the best trailer I have seen in my life... seriously.
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#45 9mmSpliff
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I cant believe I got modded in the RE6 thread about the guy and the jewish setup with ARabs. I mean come on, all I Said was this was a stupid topic. I still cant believe people find RE5 racist.
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Looking foward to another Resident Evil.
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#47 LAboy06
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The woman who wrote the article must be part of the NAAZP (National Association for the Advancements of Zombie People). Zombies need equal rights too you know.