Another welcome back problem? D/L limit?

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#1 Weenski
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@Mods, sorry for not posting in the sticky but everyone should know this. :) As the free games are large downloads, be aware of your ISP's monthly download limit. For example BT broadband's basic package has a download limit of 12Gb (I think). Just thought I'd give everyone a reminder about this so that you don't end up with no internet for the rest of the month or incur a hefty bill.
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#2 Aero5555
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I'll just quote what I said about this on another thread:

That's a huge drawback IMO. Most don't have internet speeds that can download said games in less than a few days. And putting them on "Background" download mode would risk the install being corrupted therefore the time spent downloading wasted. It happened to me twice. I'd rather get them on disc.Aero5555

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#3 da_nibbler
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just another detail that adds to the crappiness of sony's "welcome back" package.

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#4 1337h4xx0rz
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just another detail that adds to the crappiness of sony's "welcome back" package.

da_nibbler

Okay people, I think we need to put this a bit into perspective:

WE DONT PAY FOR THE PLAYSTATION NETWORK.

I can understand people freaking out if the network was down since we all paid $59.99 for it (wait, no we didnt) and on top of it we had these "welcome back" issues. We dont pay for online gaming, and even though we were offline from our FREE service, people are still complaining that we are getting FREE games because our FREE service was offline?

I think some people will just take any opportunity to complain about something.

If you dont like it, buy an xbox and pay your 60 bucks to go online.

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#5 nethernova
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just another detail that adds to the crappiness of sony's "welcome back" package.

da_nibbler
Yeah, because Sony forced you to chose some crappy internet provider with download limits. You would rather have nothing so that you don't have to download anything, right? Or Sony employees bringing retail games to your house along with a PS4 and a chest filled with gold coins? Because of the thousands of dollars you paid for using PSN and the billions of dollars that were stolen with your credit cards info.
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#6 dxmcat
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"oh I have dialup, this isnt fair" or "I already have all these games, this isnt fair"

welcome to life

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#7 Weenski
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Just so that you know, this thread isn't a complaint, just a heads up.
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#8 1337h4xx0rz
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Just so that you know, this thread isn't a complaint, just a heads up.Weenski
I figured, which I appreciate the heads up as I am sure that many people have bandwidth caps. My message was tailored to da_nibbler, who is one of many people who seem the need to complain about a free service, getting free games...
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[QUOTE="da_nibbler"]

just another detail that adds to the crappiness of sony's "welcome back" package.

1337h4xx0rz

Okay people, I think we need to put this a bit into perspective:

WE DONT PAY FOR THE PLAYSTATION NETWORK.

I can understand people freaking out if the network was down since we all paid $59.99 for it (wait, no we didnt) and on top of it we had these "welcome back" issues. We dont pay for online gaming, and even though we were offline from our FREE service, people are still complaining that we are getting FREE games because our FREE service was offline?

I think some people will just take any opportunity to complain about something.

If you dont like it, buy an xbox and pay your 60 bucks to go online.

no, but we do pay for the console, and games, and some people pay for playstation plus....sooooo, im pretty sure we all have a right to complain. it is a service that is offered when you purchase the console. therefore it is part of the package.

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#10 1337h4xx0rz
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[QUOTE="1337h4xx0rz"]

[QUOTE="da_nibbler"]

just another detail that adds to the crappiness of sony's "welcome back" package.

Roland123_basic

Okay people, I think we need to put this a bit into perspective:

WE DONT PAY FOR THE PLAYSTATION NETWORK.

I can understand people freaking out if the network was down since we all paid $59.99 for it (wait, no we didnt) and on top of it we had these "welcome back" issues. We dont pay for online gaming, and even though we were offline from our FREE service, people are still complaining that we are getting FREE games because our FREE service was offline?

I think some people will just take any opportunity to complain about something.

If you dont like it, buy an xbox and pay your 60 bucks to go online.

no, but we do pay for the console, and games, and some people pay for playstation plus....sooooo, im pretty sure we all have a right to complain. it is a service that is offered when you purchase the console. therefore it is part of the package.

Sure, you can definitely complain that it is down, but you certainly cannot complain that the free games you are getting are not up to par. IF we paid for the service, then absolutely, I would expect a better lineup of games for free, but since we never paid for the service, we cant complain about what is given in return.

Yes, we pay for the console, and games, so do xbox users, AND they pay 60 bucks to play online, which we do not. So I dont really see your point there...

And as for playstation plus users, they are getting an extra 2 months free. Where can you complain there?

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#11 Weenski
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@All the people complaining - if this happens again, Sony will just say 'they weren't happy when we gave them free games; lets not do that again'. STOP MOANING!
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#12 strangestguy
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Sadly if giving a 100$ cash in box most people would say "why didnt they put a 5 20ies instead of a 100$ bill." :roll:

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#13 c_rakestraw  Moderator
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Yeah, that's definitely a problem. Not like Sony can do anything about it, though. Really wish those darn download caps would just die.

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#14 SummerHillard
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Does anyone know if COMCAST has a DL limit? I don't believe they do, but in any case ...

... do you really have to actually DOWNLOAD both of the games within 30 days? I mean, if they will be available for download from your PSN account indefinitely (i.e., to future consoles), then why do you even need to make an INITIAL download? Can't you just "claim" them from the PS Store and then decide to download them whenever, like when you actually plan on playing them?

In addition, does anyone know how large the full-retail games of LittleBigPlanet and inFAMOUS are? I'm more concerned about how LONG it would take to download one of them. Assuming each is around 10 GB, even if Sony's servers uploaded to you at 1 MB/s (an upwards estimate), that would still take a good three hours.

Also, as this offer is pretty much going to KILL the retail sales of inFAMOUS and LBP, I would expect steep price drops on both games from all retailers. I mean, how many people are going to ever buy either of two games again on blu-ray disc after this? By that logic, if the value of the game discs dropped to $5, I might consider buying both ... seems a small price to pay to be able to keep both in physical form, and not have to deal with the digital downloads. And that way, you'd still be taking advantage of this offer, as without it the games would not drop in value in the first place.

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#15 c_rakestraw  Moderator
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Does anyone know if COMCAST has a DL limit? I don't believe they do, but in any case ...SummerHillard

I've heard from many people that they do. What the limit is, however, I don't know.

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Does anyone know if COMCAST has a DL limit? I don't believe they do, but in any case ...

... do you really have to actually DOWNLOAD both of the games within 30 days? I mean, if they will be available for download from your PSN account indefinitely (i.e., to future consoles), then why do you even need to make an INITIAL download? Can't you just "claim" them from the PS Store and then decide to download them whenever, like when you actually plan on playing them?

In addition, does anyone know how large the full-retail games of LittleBigPlanet and inFAMOUS are? I'm more concerned about how LONG it would take to download one of them. Assuming each is around 10 GB, even if Sony's servers uploaded to you at 1 MB/s (an upwards estimate), that would still take a good three hours.

SummerHillard

I believe Comcast's DL limit is 250 GB a month, enough for around 10+ ps3 games:

http://xfinity.comcast.net/terms/network/amendment/

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#17 da_nibbler
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[QUOTE="Weenski"]Just so that you know, this thread isn't a complaint, just a heads up.1337h4xx0rz
I figured, which I appreciate the heads up as I am sure that many people have bandwidth caps. My message was tailored to da_nibbler, who is one of many people who seem the need to complain about a free service, getting free games...

this free service is INCLUDED when you buy a ps3. for a lot of people that is one factor why they get a PS3 instead of a x-box. basically one part of your paid for ps3 wasn't working. and hence people complaining about it. just cos we don't pay an annual fee doesn't mean we can't be upset.
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#18 Weenski
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[QUOTE="1337h4xx0rz"][QUOTE="Weenski"]Just so that you know, this thread isn't a complaint, just a heads up.da_nibbler
I figured, which I appreciate the heads up as I am sure that many people have bandwidth caps. My message was tailored to da_nibbler, who is one of many people who seem the need to complain about a free service, getting free games...

this free service is INCLUDED when you buy a ps3. for a lot of people that is one factor why they get a PS3 instead of a x-box. basically one part of your paid for ps3 wasn't working. and hence people complaining about it. just cos we don't pay an annual fee doesn't mean we can't be upset.

You have every right to be upset but there are a lot of people complaining about the free games. Many of them because they already own Infamous and LBP. If this happens again would it be better if Sony thought 'they weren't happy when we gave them free games. Lets not do that again?' I think not. :)
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Sucks for people who have a download cap.
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#20 2Chalupas
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Please explain, how does putting on "backround download" risk getting a corrupted file? I do that literally ever single time it's possible to use background download, and it's never had an issue once. I can't imagine why it would - unless there is a power surge or something crazy happens to your PS3, but that is a totally separate issue that could effect you even if you download in the "foreground". Despite of course using surge protectors, I usually still turn my PS3 off when there's is a severe enough thunderstorm.

DL caps do suck, but you have to be with a pretty crap ISP to cause a problem if you use a mere 12-15GB. Especially if they go after you just for one month of using it for PSN downloads. That's the ISP's problem, not PSN. Usually the "soft limit" is more like 30GB, and they only go after people that chronically go way over those limits month after month.

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#21 CakeBreak
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once you click on the purchase button its yours for life no? if this is the case then you could just download em when you have spare dl limit and time...