Anyone else glad Raiden is the nw main?

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#1 YankeeDan345
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Spoilers for MGS series follow:

I love Snake now, MGS on PS1 was my favorit game ever and I was pissed when they had him dying in MGS4 (yes I know he didnt die in the end). But the story arc they did through those games went on long enough, it's time for a new story and even though I HATED raiden being the main character in 2 they made him way cooler in 4 so I can accept him as the new guy.

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#2 Ronin893
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I have no problem with it either. We will probably see a lot of new characters in this new one.

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#3 Kaine666_2
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yeah i am i cant wait to see what they do with it, but.....I want to see another big boss game*hopes the picture of young big boss is it*

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#4 CosmoKing7717
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im confused though...Ign states that "Gamers have seen the last of Solid Snake (or so the story goes...), but the Metal Gear franchise soldiers on without Snake and without series creator Hideo Kojima at the helm." Will kojima really not be doing as much work on this one?
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#5 Sepewrath
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Yeah Kojima probably will only be on as a consultant instead of having a direct hand in development, I am happy to see Raiden back but he is still all cyber ninja. I don't really see how that plays into stealth as the man is a walking natural disaster, he doesn't need to hide from anyone.
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#7 shabab12
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It looks like a much smaller project.
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#8 BerserkerCE
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kojima said this will be an all new mgs experience. so i think there will be little stealth involved and more action. also with the suit being present i'm thinking the story is either A) inbetween 2 and 4 or B) mgs4 from his perspective. "rising" in the title kinda implies that it maybe how raiden became the way he is in 4. leading me to think it may likely be A.

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#9 avataraang1
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Im kinda upset about it. I could careless if it was exclusive to MS but not Raiden. He really just makes me upset

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#10 ReaperV7
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Im guessing its going to be like devil may cry expect with raiden.
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#11 TheJoeyness
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Doesn't bother me in the least. I think that Kojima is going to broaden the horizon and MGSR is going to be based more on action than stealth. The Metal Gear games are based on terrorism and war, and Kojima has told the legend of one man and what he had to do to stop terrorist threats, etc. So let's hear of the legend of another war hero and what HE had to do to become a savior. So it's not a betrayal to the saga it's just a different story.

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#12 Turduckendear
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I think the timeline for the game cant be determined because there are plenty of possibilities. Last time I checked, ninjas dont run out in the open and kill everything in sight. Lightning Bolt Action I think will have a good amount of stealth with very fast paced action. It wouldnt be very ninja like of Raiden to kill everyone rambo style. On a side note, if this game involves turn style fighting, like Final Fantasy, I will really laugh. I don't know why but that is what comes to my mind when i head LBA.

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#13 SuperMario254
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is it official that Raiden will be the main character? he sucked in MGS2 and he made me hate him even more in MGS4.. oh well, guess I won't be buying this one.. such a shame.. the main character didn't have to be Snake, but I refuse to play as Raiden ever again.
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#14 SoulAlchemist
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It doesn't bother me at all, in fact it was kind of predicable that it was going to be Raiden as the main character. It would have just been awkward if someone else, like Otacon, had been announced as the main character.
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#15 Turduckendear
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is it official that Raiden will be the main character? he sucked in MGS2 and he made me hate him even more in MGS4.. oh well, guess I won't be buying this one.. such a shame.. the main character didn't have to be Snake, but I refuse to play as Raiden ever again.SuperMario254
What part of MGS4 made you hate Raiden? When he took on Vamp twice or when he put a sword thru his foot while holding up a super submarine to save snake?
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Is MGR coming to PS3 as well?

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#17 StylezT220
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kojima said this will be an all new mgs experience. so i think there will be little stealth involved and more action. also with the suit being present i'm thinking the story is either A) inbetween 2 and 4 or B) mgs4 from his perspective. "rising" in the title kinda implies that it maybe how raiden became the way he is in 4. leading me to think it may likely be A.

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raiden is the way he is in 4, because he got captured and experimented on (cant' remember by who). they took out he's spine and built him a new body with that suit. That's why he is so flexible-dude has no spine! lol.
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#18 SuperMario254
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[QUOTE="SuperMario254"]is it official that Raiden will be the main character? he sucked in MGS2 and he made me hate him even more in MGS4.. oh well, guess I won't be buying this one.. such a shame.. the main character didn't have to be Snake, but I refuse to play as Raiden ever again.Turduckendear
What part of MGS4 made you hate Raiden? When he took on Vamp twice or when he put a sword thru his foot while holding up a super submarine to save snake?

what part didn't make me hate him more? kojima tried WAY to hard to make him a "badass" character which made me hate him even more. simple as that... Raiden was just a bad character design from start to finish.

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[QUOTE="Turduckendear"][QUOTE="SuperMario254"]is it official that Raiden will be the main character? he sucked in MGS2 and he made me hate him even more in MGS4.. oh well, guess I won't be buying this one.. such a shame.. the main character didn't have to be Snake, but I refuse to play as Raiden ever again.SuperMario254

What part of MGS4 made you hate Raiden? When he took on Vamp twice or when he put a sword thru his foot while holding up a super submarine to save snake?

what part didn't make me hate him more? kojima tried WAY to hard to make him a "badass" character which made me hate him even more. simple as that... Raiden was just a bad character design from start to finish.

Your opinions fail so hard. :lol: Without Raiden it would be a lame franchise. snake is Mediocre.....

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#20 ocdog45
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I have no problem with it either. We will probably see a lot of new characters in this new one.

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#21 SuperMario254
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[QUOTE="SuperMario254"]

[QUOTE="Turduckendear"] What part of MGS4 made you hate Raiden? When he took on Vamp twice or when he put a sword thru his foot while holding up a super submarine to save snake?CoreoVII

what part didn't make me hate him more? kojima tried WAY to hard to make him a "badass" character which made me hate him even more. simple as that... Raiden was just a bad character design from start to finish.

Your opinions fail so hard. :lol: Without Raiden it would be a lame franchise. snake is Mediocre.....

Raiden is better? The guy who did NOTHING but cry the entire time?.. "Your opinions fail so hard :lol:" :roll:

edit: Also.. kinda funny you left out this part "the main character didn't have to be Snake" in favor of just assuming that I was a Snake fanboy...

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#22 DavidDisorder
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In the second installment I wasent too flattered with Raiden as a leading role. In 4 I would have given my solid eye, mk II, and octocamo just for a chance to play as him. So at first glance, I should be more than intrigued to play as him in the next. But one thing everyone has to think about, is if they did have Raiden as a main player, especially now with his new-found techniques, you would have to change the gameplay of the game to fit it accordingly. So it would no longer be MGS, maybe the same universe, but not the same game we have known to love. Which is fine if you liked Final Fantasy 7: Dirge of Cerberus. But perhaps if they kept it similiar to number 2, but also gave you the ability to equip a sword. Once equiped being the only time that the controls of the game changed. Say gameplay is normal with guns and stealth, but maybe some gekko's start popping in and you dont want to gun them down, switch to your sword and you have a whole new range of movements. Such as jumping, wall running, hacking, slashing, etc. Now that I think we could all handle and learn to love. We will just have to wait and see what they come up with. And I can easily say that I am not worried, Kojima has gotten it right so far... why doubt him now.
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#23 SuperMario254
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because Kojima isn't the project leader?
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#24 DavidDisorder
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because Kojima isn't the project leader?SuperMario254
Lol, and that is the best thing you can reply to my post? How about who is, what else do you think about the entirety of what I said? And what you said has nothing to do with doubting Kojima, but the project that he is not leading. Just for future reference. :D
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#25 TrevCubsOr21
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[QUOTE="Kaine666_2"]

yeah i am i cant wait to see what they do with it, but.....I want to see another big boss game*hopes the picture of young big boss is it*

yes me too....
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#26 SuperMario254
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[QUOTE="SuperMario254"]because Kojima isn't the project leader?DavidDisorder
Lol, and that is the best thing you can reply to my post? How about who is, what else do you think about the entirety of what I said? And what you said has nothing to do with doubting Kojima, but the project that he is not leading. Just for future reference. :D

I didn't care enough about the rest of the post to respond to it.. it's your opinion that Raiden is cool, so whatever. I think the gameplay should drop the over the shoulder shooting and go back to MGS1 style sneaking around and avoiding combat. As for who is the lead on the project, idk.. but Kojima has said that he was no longer going to be a project leader for the MGS series but would take a back seat.. Lastly, you said "Kojima has gotten it right so far... why doubt him now" .. my answer to this is "why trust him?" he isn't the project leader thus you have no reason to trust and/or doubt him and should instead look towards the rest of the dev. team.
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#27 DavidDisorder
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[QUOTE="DavidDisorder"][QUOTE="SuperMario254"]because Kojima isn't the project leader?SuperMario254
Lol, and that is the best thing you can reply to my post? How about who is, what else do you think about the entirety of what I said? And what you said has nothing to do with doubting Kojima, but the project that he is not leading. Just for future reference. :D

I didn't care enough about the rest of the post to respond to it.. it's your opinion that Raiden is cool, so whatever. I think the gameplay should drop the over the shoulder shooting and go back to MGS1 style sneaking around and avoiding combat. As for who is the lead on the project, idk.. but Kojima has said that he was no longer going to be a project leader for the MGS series but would take a back seat.. Lastly, you said "Kojima has gotten it right so far... why doubt him now" .. my answer to this is "why trust him?" he isn't the project leader thus you have no reason to trust and/or doubt him and should instead look towards the rest of the dev. team.

But you cared enough about the part you could make a big deal over? Everyone is entitled to their opinion, only because no one's opinion is right. And yes that is all true. But irrelevant... you dont know who the new development team is, so why are you trying to argue with it. Either way I am sure the new development team, whoever they may be... would want to stay true to the way that Kojima has molded the series. The reason we should trust him, is because undoubtedly the new development team will... is any of this making sense to you? Or should I quit while I am ahead?
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#28 SuperMario254
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.. the new dev team won't have to trust him because they won't be taking orders from him.. so why should they trust him? All they have to do is whatever route Konami wants them to take with the game, not Kojima. It's all about money, not staying true to ideas (sadly).

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#29 DavidDisorder
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.. the new dev team won't have to trust him because they won't be taking orders from him.. so why should they trust him? All they have to do is whatever route Konami wants them to take with the game, not Kojima. It's all about money, not staying true to ideas (sadly).

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Yes, sadly. Well all I can say is what I always say. "We can only hope."
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#30 MarcRecon
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If the gameplay is anywhere close to Ninja Gaiden,I'll be happy!!!