Anyone else think SE is intentionally avoiding a FF7 remake?

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#1 SonicTheMonkey
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I mean it's getting pretty obvious. After making the original versions of the FF games, they go back and remake 1/2, then 3, 4, 5, and 6. What's the next logical step? Remake 1 again of course! and then 2, then 4 (guess the DS remake of 3 is still too close for them to get away with another remake). I know that the FF games have been remade an endless number of times, but how many versions of 7 onward do we have? 1 (excluding the Japan only directors cuts). There's obviously a large number of people who desperately want a remade 7, so what do you think Square's reasoning behind this could be?
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So they can focus all their manpower on their first next gen outing of the FF series.:roll:
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#3 Symphonycometh
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They avoided VIII and IX AND X as well....

And I would love to see IX and X remade.

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#4 narpclinic
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Can you blame them?

If they hold true to the original FF7 and just redo the graphics, they'll be accused of being money grubbing :::::insert expletive here::::: and have a whole legion of critics.

On the other hand of they update the graphics and make tweaks to the story and/or battle system, they'll be accused of messing with one of the greatest games in PlayStation history and have a whole legion of critics.

Personally, I'd be happy with just an awesome game in FF13.

Although I would be happy if they chose to remake FF7. .Either pathway. And I promise no criticism. (from me at least :P )

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#5 AnFangs_Endes
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I'd like to see XI remade into an offline game ... so I can play it..
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#6 SonicTheMonkey
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Well if they're focusing all their manpower on FFXIII then whats with the all the remakes of earlier games? (case in point: FFIV for DS). And I mentioned that too, how they haven't done anything with 7 onward (8, 9, etc.). And on the point of not enough/too much done remake wise, they've never let that stop them before with their countless remaked of other FF games and of their other series' as well. FF6 is arguably as popular as FF7, and basically they updated the game and threw in a few extras, it just makes me thing that they're conciously avoiding this remake even though they've done it so mant times before.
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#7 Symphonycometh
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I'd like to see XI remade into an offline game ... so I can play it..AnFangs_Endes

Same here. Maybe it'll have a better story than...no, it WILL have a better story than XII.:P

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#8 Vyse_Legends
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*sigh*Fine "most" of their manpower.:roll:
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#9 TelcharXI
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I'd like to see XI remade into an offline game ... so I can play it..AnFangs_Endes

Same here, FFXI has a very great storyline an offline version would be really nice.

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#10 GeneralX84
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remaking a PS1 game on a PS3 is hard, because it's 3D so they'll have to port the game to the current generation engine, and seeing how muchthe architecture between PS1 and PS3 differ
they will probably have to really remake the whole thing completely, not just improving graphics; therefore they'll wait untilFFXIII to be completed first

oh and just consider how much effort they made from simply transfering the FFXIII project from PS2 to PS3, not to mention from PS1 to PS3

just my 2 cents

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#11 OutlawHunter
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I think square enix will release it on the playstation network, then a ds remake will follow, (after 5and 6 of course) and then a PSP version with better graphics a little after that. I could actually see them doing this sadly
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#12 bigblunt537
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remaking a PS1 game on a PS3 is hard, because it's 3D so they'll have to port the game to the current generation engine, and seeing how muchthe architecture between PS1 and PS3 differ
they will probably have to really remake the whole thing completely, not just improving graphics; therefore they'll wait untilFFXIII to be completed first

oh and just consider how much effort they made from simply transfering the FFXIII project from PS2 to PS3, not to mention from PS1 to PS3

just my 2 cents

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When you talk bout a "REMAKE" its different then a "PORT". We want a remake of the game meaning new graphics engine etc. They wouldnt remake a game with a 10 year old engine. And if they did remake it with the old engine the ps3 would have NO problem at all getting it to run since its maybe 70000 times strogner then a ps1 and the engine would be easy to emulate. The graphics engine would probably be the same as the engine used for Finalk Fantasy XII. Although i do tihnk this game is in development because suqareenix is not dumb at all, and they know if they released this game it would sell like crazy and make them a crap load of money.

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#13 jackle2071
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7 was the only FF game i really enjoyed. i hope they do remake it.
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#14 lhbchen
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to me, FF8 9 10 are the best FF games
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#15 chopstx667
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Rather than remaking it, if they released it on PSN as a download with updated graphics and thats it, would y'all buy it? I never got the chance to play FF7, only 8 and above so I would defintely download it. I mean it seems to me, everyone just wants updated graphics rght? or atleast as a minimum.
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#16 XL83
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The first 6 Final Fantasy's, maybe with the exception of 3, were not very popular outside of Japan. These remakes of 1-6 seem to be mainly catering to the Japanese handheld market. It's basically shovelware, I wouldn't even worry about it.

Wait until 13 is out, then clamor for a 7 remake. Believe me, I want to see it too.

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#17 snipe2004
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if they avoid making this game then i guess SE doesnt like cash
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#18 SonicTheMonkey
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I'm a little embarassed to admit it (both as the TC and a gamer in general), but I actually haven't played FF7. I've played 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 11, and 12. I think if they did a remake of FF7 with their White engine (think that's what it's called, the one used for FFXIII) with stellar PS3 graphics, voice acting, and little touchups wherever needed, I would be satisfied. (Oh and maybe throw in a few extras like with the previous FF remakes, new weapons, new dungeons, etc.) Are you listening SE? :P Maybe they're just waiting for the right time...waiting...
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#19 ghostjga
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Looking as all the remakes are mostly done on mobile systems... What would you guys think if they suddenly announced it on the PSP? rather than the PS3.
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#20 SonicTheMonkey
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Or as another one of their cell phone games? lmao
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Technically a remake shouldn't take that long, as almost all the conceptual side is done, they just need updated character designs, some plot tweaks and an engine to work with. Either they have FF7 in development, or they are stalling, i don't know what i believe any more. I'm not a fan of all this spin off FF7 stuff though, i don't like the new chars they have created and the prequal/sequal plots in dirge of Cerberus, crisis core and advent children.

I feel alot of the subtleties of the characters have been lost because of the expanded universe, i thought the FF7 universe was pretty unique and i loved the fusion of cyberpunk elements, the dystopian city, the end of the world crisis and the tifa aries/areith and cloud love triangle, I'm just not comfortable with how they have made Zack and Genesis as big as the Cloud and Septhiroth rivalry, which in my opinion was the main theme, the David and Goliath match up, good VS evil, except the good guy was self doubting and kind of an anti-hero.

The game seams to be losing how dark and macabre it was and has become more of an action fest.

Ive been a square fan for well over 10 years and have become almost completely disillusioned with them, my last hope after FFXIII and VS XIII, is an expanded FF7 remake and a parasite eve sequel, remake ect.

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seems SE likes Microcrap's dirty money a lot, since Last Remnant is multi platform and Undiscovery something is exclusive to X360. Better hope PS3 sells a lot or SE will only do X360 crap
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#23 The_Tombo
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[QUOTE="GeneralX84"]

remaking a PS1 game on a PS3 is hard, because it's 3D so they'll have to port the game to the current generation engine, and seeing how muchthe architecture between PS1 and PS3 differ
they will probably have to really remake the whole thing completely, not just improving graphics; therefore they'll wait untilFFXIII to be completed first

oh and just consider how much effort they made from simply transfering the FFXIII project from PS2 to PS3, not to mention from PS1 to PS3

just my 2 cents

bigblunt537

When you talk bout a "REMAKE" its different then a "PORT". We want a remake of the game meaning new graphics engine etc. They wouldnt remake a game with a 10 year old engine. And if they did remake it with the old engine the ps3 would have NO problem at all getting it to run since its maybe 70000 times strogner then a ps1 and the engine would be easy to emulate. The graphics engine would probably be the same as the engine used for Finalk Fantasy XII. Although i do tihnk this game is in development because suqareenix is not dumb at all, and they know if they released this game it would sell like crazy and make them a crap load of money.

they would not need to port it since the ps3 already plays ps1 games....

But anyhoo why would it be harder to go from 3d to 3d as apposed from 2d to 3d as they did with the ds versions?..does not make any sense.

And yes I'm quite sure they are holding it back to save some hype for FFXIII

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seems SE likes Microcrap's dirty money a lot, since Last Remnant is multi platform and Undiscovery something is exclusive to X360. Better hope PS3 sells a lot or SE will only do X360 crapTheTenth10

So a multi and an exclusive against?

FF XIII, FF vs XIII, SO 4, shall I continue With the rest?

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#25 Miguel16
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yea seriously who the hell cares man. Just let them do their job and make NEW FF games. Why do you want a remake so badly.
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#26 bigblunt537
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[QUOTE="TheTenth10"]seems SE likes Microcrap's dirty money a lot, since Last Remnant is multi platform and Undiscovery something is exclusive to X360. Better hope PS3 sells a lot or SE will only do X360 crapkenshinhimura16

So a multi and an exclusive against?

FF XIII, FF vs XIII, SO 4, shall I continue With the rest?

yea but i would love to see atleast one of those games before 3Q and 4Q of 08.... lol

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#27 Terami
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I think Square Enix knows very well how popular FF VII is and I believe a remake will happen(on PS3). As it was suggested before, when they showed the PS3 tech demo (of VII), the positive reaction was quite unexpected by SE.

You have to consider that right now, SE's big guns are working on FF XIII & XIII Versus and that SE wants these games to do as well, or better than any other FF in the series. So, time will be needed to let these two games have there time in the spot light. After all is said and done, what better way for SE to milk their franchise than to release a remake of VII a year or two later?

While I loved VII, I have zero interest in all of it's spin offs. I think it's great that they are focusing on those markets for those who may enjoy it, but it's not my cup of tea. I'd much rather see something new from them.

And for the record, I want a remake of VII as well.

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#28 _Cab0ose87_
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To me, the best games in the series were the ones on the Original Playstation. FFX struck me the wrong way and now i have no inclination to play the new ones.
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#29 DrewBlood08
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Remaking a game for the ds is a lot different than remaking something like FF7 for the PS3. The ds remakes can still use the original games graphics, so there is little updating to do. They just add a little extra content here and there. Now if they remade FF7 for the PS3, I'm sure you'd be greatly disappointed if the graphics were on par with the original. Maybe a FF7 remake for the psp might work.

With new hardware in the PS3, the only option is to make a brand new game for that hardware. My opinion but I'd rather have something new.

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#30 zeforgotten
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of course they are avoiding a Remake. isn't it obvious? "haha, now they think we're gonna make the remake" and later on "rofl, what a bunch of tools, we haven't said ANYTHING and they think it again" .. and then "OMG! i just farted and now they think, like the tools they are, that they are gonna get a remake" .. i wouldn't say it sounds pathethic from my look at it. the only Pathethic people are the ones screaming "OMG! REMAKE! REMAKE REMAKE! every time someone moves at SE HQ.

They are (obviously) working on their first Next-gen title. now let them f'ing work on it

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#31 stygiansanity
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Can you blame them?

If they hold true to the original FF7 and just redo the graphics, they'll be accused of being money grubbing :::::insert expletive here::::: and have a whole legion of critics.

On the other hand of they update the graphics and make tweaks to the story and/or battle system, they'll be accused of messing with one of the greatest games in PlayStation history and have a whole legion of critics.

Personally, I'd be happy with just an awesome game in FF13.

Although I would be happy if they chose to remake FF7. .Either pathway. And I promise no criticism. (from me at least :P )

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I agree. I don't think they'd be called money hungry, but the game wouldn't recieve high ratings.

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#32 The_Tombo
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Remaking a game for the ds is a lot different than remaking something like FF7 for the PS3. The ds remakes can still use the original games graphics, so there is little updating to do. They just add a little extra content here and there. Now if they remade FF7 for the PS3, I'm sure you'd be greatly disappointed if the graphics were on par with the original. Maybe a FF7 remake for the psp might work.

With new hardware in the PS3, the only option is to make a brand new game for that hardware. My opinion but I'd rather have something new.

DrewBlood08

but the ds version had 3d graphics.. and the old version had no such thing.. so How can it be easier besides the fact that the ps3 is capable of better so it would take longer to create those graphics.

Anyhoo why do you peeps keep speaking of a "remake" with ps1 graphics whilst that is utter nonsense.. besides the fact that people with the original disc can still play VII with the ps1 graphics .. if all they wanted was to put a port of VII to the ps3 masses they would just release it as a ps1 classic downloadable game.

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#33 AuthenticM
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I'm pretty sure it's already in pre-development. They just won't announce it until Final Fantasy XIII is out. Simple.
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#34 Deihmos
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Why waste time and money making the same old game. If anything they can release the game again but I still don't see the point.
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#35 narpclinic
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Why waste time and money making the same old game. If anything they can release the game again but I still don't see the point. Deihmos

The point?

$$$$$$$$$$.

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#36 kenshinhimura16
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[QUOTE="kenshinhimura16"]

[QUOTE="TheTenth10"]seems SE likes Microcrap's dirty money a lot, since Last Remnant is multi platform and Undiscovery something is exclusive to X360. Better hope PS3 sells a lot or SE will only do X360 crapbigblunt537

So a multi and an exclusive against?

FF XIII, FF vs XIII, SO 4, shall I continue With the rest?

yea but i would love to see atleast one of those games before 3Q and 4Q of 08.... lol

Well, Square is the king of delays, I mean, look at Dirge and FF XII. Announced several years before release. delayed trillions of times too :(

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#37 Windblade91
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honestly when they remake theyll leave the same story maybe reword it to make it more clearer and DEFINATELY ADD more to it so that more spin-offs are possible along witha new battle system

honestly i have a feeling they will announce it a month or so b4 they release it

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#38 Marmotas
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i hope they never remake it, i loved FF7 and i know that square-enix are going to kill it with a remake if they change the combat system, history, materias, etc... a FF7 with a spheregrid lvl system like in ff10... no thanks, or maybe a battle system like in 12... no thanks again...

they guy in the first page is right, Square-Enix will be critizied no matter what they do, if they just improve the graphics, translate better, and fix some bugs (like the magic armor one) they are going to be attacked as just interested in profits and milking (even more) the ff7 game. For the other part, if they do change the battle system, or something like that, they will be critizised for altering a classic.

They should leave it as it is, a PS1 game. They should focus in future releases and not in past games.

(in any case, IF they do remake it, i hope they dont change a thing in history, battle system, materias, lvl stuff, etc.)

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#39 Terami
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I seriously doubt SE would implement drastic changes as they have yet to do so with other remakes. I believe SE will stay true to the roots of VII and just upgrade it's sound, graphics and improve the translation.

I don't think SE is too worried about the few complaints some might have because they know, with a name like FF VII, it's going to sell, regardless of whata few fans think.

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#40 FireFalkon
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I don't understand why SE would bring back FFVII without a reason, before advent children there was nothing about FFVII. They're either low on cash or they plan to remake the game. I think it's the former tough.
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#41 SonicTheMonkey
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Well at the very least, I think we can all agree that it's going to come to the classics section on the PSN eventually, in turn, making it playable on the PSP (as well as the PS3).
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#42 Gamerboi27
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a remake would just ruin a classic

beside...not many people will buy a 60 dollar game just for an improved graphic old game

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#43 SonicTheMonkey
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Oh I think they would. FF7 remake? Nobody would play that >_>
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#44 kraz1e8
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Capcom did it with RE

why cant SE do it with VII

just update the graphics and sounds, and that would be a sleeper hit for the ps3

just should release it after ffxiii though

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#45 DiamanteLouco
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Warning: sentimental blabbering below

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I really prefer a FFXIII that is *as good* today as FFVII were in his day more than a remake.

The remake would be nice, but, personally, I wait so much for new FFs games to see the new story, the new characters, the new world, etc etc and stuff (I was even a bit bugged by the fact that FFXII was on Ivalice because I really like the concept of "a completely different world" every new Final Fantasy).

I think this remake hype is just nostalgy working the wrong way, as much as I would love to see new graphics, voice acting, enhanced combat system, etc etc; the most important stuff in the game (in my opinion) I already know.

I mean, I already cried to Aeris death when I was 15 y/o, I think that if I saw the exact same scene again, only on better graphics (kinda like Advent of Children), it would feel cheap and it would feel a part of my teenagerhood was, somehow, corrupted.

I want to cry about characters I don't know yet, I want to fall in love with stories that, today, are just drafts in someone scrapbook, the past has his warm place where it belongs, to take it out of there and bring the exact same thing here with just better images... I don't know...

I think the way the little SD cloud shakes when he is holding aeris, the way the SD Barrett shoots the ruins of Sector 7 (it was sector 7?) the way the litte SD Tifa grabs the masamune and runs into the reactor, I don't think that stuff can be reproduced without feeling cheap. I can see the FMVs being made like that technical demonstrarion was made, but the game itself, all the little gestures that were born out of necessity (because the technology at the time wasn't yet developed enough to make characters with faces), all those little things would be lost and, funny enough, in the name of nostalgy.

I think back in the day, Square was bold enough to, despiste all of the FF7 success, to make FF8 completely different and deliver us a completely new experience that was touching in a different way.

I hope they keep being bold and, despiste all of the FF7 remake claims, they go and and make stuff that we don't even dream about yet.

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#46 SonicTheMonkey
Member since 2004 • 2709 Posts
I can hear where you're coming from, but that's why there are new games like FFXIII and that's split into multiple pieces, so you should have your hands full of a heaping helping of new for quite a while. But I think that the main point of a FF7 remake would be to recruit new fans as well as show some of the recent fans just what made FF so popular. All of this alone should warrent the remake, but adding in the game's already huge fanbase and all the nostalgia it could offer them could only sweeten the experience. We all have opinions on the topic, but that's really all they are. In the end Square will be the one to decide whether or not to do a remake. Not you, I, or anyone else here on these boards. All we can do is hope, and that's exactly what I'm doing right now. :D
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#47 sxs_alex
Member since 2007 • 933 Posts
FFVII (crysis core) for the psp is close as it gets. i've gotten my hands on it (***)already and man that game is a beauty.The CGI is to die for. Gameplay is going to be worth the wait for you guys. it would be sick if it comes out on the PSN as a download for PS3in fullHD with more contentsjust like what they did for Tekken 5 DR. Tekken DR was on both ps2 and psp. I thinkthe remakewill eventually show up on the PS3 if Sony wants to push out more games until we wait for KZ2 and others to come out next year. FF VII remake would be a very nice push because I would spend hours playing that on my plasma and surround sound. I'm sure a lot of old and new fans would die to get their hands on the remake. Too bad SquareEnix is keeping quiet about itand avoiding requests. THey probably waiting until the right day to announce it. ThePS3sales would skyrocket if it comes out.