I'm sure that most of you have seen the gameplay videos of Warhawk on ign.com or wherever else. Well to be honest I'm not impressed at all. I was very dissapointed when they decided that there will be no single player campaign in the game. i was really looking forwar to Warhawk but after that point I didn't really cared. But for some reason I still wanted to see how it's shapeing out. But to me the game looks stupid. I'm sorry to say that but what has Warhawk got that another shooter game hasn't?? If I wanna play online I much rather play Battlefield 2142 than Warhawk and BF also has a single player campaign and the game is cheaper and to me it looks and plays much better! I think Warhawk will soon be forgotten. To be honest to me Warhawk is another half done game such as Motorstorm is. What's going on with these developers?? Are they so lazy to make a decent game? Or all they care about is getting our money as soon and as fast as possible? Well to tell you the truth for that reason I wont be getting Warhawk. I'm not giving a single cent to these lazy people who couldn't even make a decent single playar campaign to Warhawk. What is your opinion?
Anyone not statisfied with Warhawk?
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Im sure if they make the gameplay mechanics really really good. And the fan response is " We Need Warhawk Single player back!!!" Then they will do it, if not in a new game (more likely) or a downloadable expansion (I would ratehr see this being supported)
Im reserving most judegment until i get a chance to play it.
Im sure if they make the gameplay mechanics really really good. And the fan response is " We Need Warhawk Single player back!!!" Then they will do it, if not in a new game (more likely) or a downloadable expansion (I would ratehr see this being supported)acidBURN1942
Havent you noticed that developers don't give a damn about people? They do it their way, you like it or not. You know how many people wanted single player in Warhawk? More people wanted it to have single player than just multiplayer. Still they decided on multiplayer. How many people wanted DMC4 to be a PS3 exclusive. Still it's going to go to the 360. How many people want FFXIII to be a PS3 exclusive....there is a good chance it will go to the 360. How many things we want and hope that developers dont care about???? Millions....all I see is promisses and nothing delivered btu taken away from.
[QUOTE="acidBURN1942"]Im reserving most judegment until i get a chance to play it.
Im sure if they make the gameplay mechanics really really good. And the fan response is " We Need Warhawk Single player back!!!" Then they will do it, if not in a new game (more likely) or a downloadable expansion (I would ratehr see this being supported)HunAndras1984
Havent you noticed that developers don't give a damn about people? They do it their way, you like it or not. You know how many people wanted single player in Warhawk? More people wanted it to have single player than just multiplayer. Still they decided on multiplayer. How many people wanted DMC4 to be a PS3 exclusive. Still it's going to go to the 360. How many people want FFXIII to be a PS3 exclusive....there is a good chance it will go to the 360. How many things we want and hope that developers dont care about???? Millions....all I see is promisses and nothing delivered btu taken away from.
No developer can satisfy everyone....... No game is perfect for everyone.
I too reserve my judgement on the game til I play it but from what I've seen, the gameplay looks pretty cool.Â
[QUOTE="acidBURN1942"]Im reserving most judegment until i get a chance to play it.
Im sure if they make the gameplay mechanics really really good. And the fan response is " We Need Warhawk Single player back!!!" Then they will do it, if not in a new game (more likely) or a downloadable expansion (I would ratehr see this being supported)HunAndras1984
Havent you noticed that developers don't give a damn about people? They do it their way, you like it or not. You know how many people wanted single player in Warhawk? More people wanted it to have single player than just multiplayer. Still they decided on multiplayer. How many people wanted DMC4 to be a PS3 exclusive. Still it's going to go to the 360. How many people want FFXIII to be a PS3 exclusive....there is a good chance it will go to the 360. How many things we want and hope that developers dont care about???? Millions....all I see is promisses and nothing delivered btu taken away from.
Well a lot of devlopers dont give a damn because its their creative property not ours and it is a business so they try to mak what will sell.There are a few devlopers out there that truly listen to the fans, CCP comes to mind as do a few others. The best way to voice your opinion to them is with your pocket book, the second is on their official forums. BioShock got a collectors edition because enough fans signed the petition.
Who cares if a game stays exclusive to the PS3 as long as the PS3 still gets the game WHO GOD DAMN CARES!!!! Its a business and they need to make money. I think the only games that should be exclusive are 1st and 2nd party games, with a select few 3rd party devlopers deciding to fully utilize one system. Other than that I would make the game that I could on all the systems I could get the full experience on, that way I would get more money to keep devloping good games.
[QUOTE="HunAndras1984"][QUOTE="acidBURN1942"]Im reserving most judegment until i get a chance to play it.
Im sure if they make the gameplay mechanics really really good. And the fan response is " We Need Warhawk Single player back!!!" Then they will do it, if not in a new game (more likely) or a downloadable expansion (I would ratehr see this being supported)acidBURN1942
Havent you noticed that developers don't give a damn about people? They do it their way, you like it or not. You know how many people wanted single player in Warhawk? More people wanted it to have single player than just multiplayer. Still they decided on multiplayer. How many people wanted DMC4 to be a PS3 exclusive. Still it's going to go to the 360. How many people want FFXIII to be a PS3 exclusive....there is a good chance it will go to the 360. How many things we want and hope that developers dont care about???? Millions....all I see is promisses and nothing delivered btu taken away from.
Well a lot of devlopers dont give a damn because its their creative property not ours and it is a business so they try to mak what will sell.There are a few devlopers out there that truly listen to the fans, CCP comes to mind as do a few others. The best way to voice your opinion to them is with your pocket book, the second is on their official forums. BioShock got a collectors edition because enough fans signed the petition.
Who cares if a game stays exclusive to the PS3 as long as the PS3 still gets the game WHO GOD DAMN CARES!!!! Its a business and they need to make money. I think the only games that should be exclusive are 1st and 2nd party games, with a select few 3rd party devlopers deciding to fully utilize one system. Other than that I would make the game that I could on all the systems I could get the full experience on, that way I would get more money to keep devloping good games.
Getting games on all platforms you say. Ok, than look at Splinter Cell DA, F.E.A.R. and I'm sure that R6 Vegas will look like Sh*t as well on the PS3. I think as soon as developers decided that they will go multiplatform tha game will suffer. Why? Because they invest a lot of money and time to develope for more than one console insted of investing all that on one. I would love to be prooved wrong but my hopes aren't high for even GTA4.....I wanna see what will that game deliver for example. One city only? How big? It's like going back in time.
Quit complaining. The games not even out yet. Like acidBURN said wait and play it before you tell the world that its the worst game ever. If you would read the developers interviews they explain why they decided to go multiplayer only
And game companies dont care about gamers, they care about MONEY. Thats why they are in this business.
Quit complaining. The games not even out yet. Like acidBURN said wait and play it before you tell the world that its the worst game ever. If you would read the developers interviews they explain why they decided to go multiplayer only
And game companies dont care about gamers, they care about MONEY. Thats why they are in this business.
bob_dartagnan
Right! that's what I said! Game companies don't care about our opinions. But I never said it's the worst game ever. I only said that from what I've seen so far and what I heard it's dissapointing to me. And also what I seem to relize is that whatever game these people may make fanboys will love it and prhaze it like hell. If you guys really seen the gameplay videos of Warhawk than you know how stupid that game is. I mean...dod you see that guy with the airplane trying to shoot another guy on the bridge??? He can't even do it...and it looks bad. Like a bufed up PS2 game. Nothing more. UT3 will be way better than Warhawk. You'll see!! And for once just try to look at a game without being a fanboy!!
[QUOTE="acidBURN1942"][QUOTE="HunAndras1984"][QUOTE="acidBURN1942"]Im reserving most judegment until i get a chance to play it.
Im sure if they make the gameplay mechanics really really good. And the fan response is " We Need Warhawk Single player back!!!" Then they will do it, if not in a new game (more likely) or a downloadable expansion (I would ratehr see this being supported)HunAndras1984
Havent you noticed that developers don't give a damn about people? They do it their way, you like it or not. You know how many people wanted single player in Warhawk? More people wanted it to have single player than just multiplayer. Still they decided on multiplayer. How many people wanted DMC4 to be a PS3 exclusive. Still it's going to go to the 360. How many people want FFXIII to be a PS3 exclusive....there is a good chance it will go to the 360. How many things we want and hope that developers dont care about???? Millions....all I see is promisses and nothing delivered btu taken away from.
Well a lot of devlopers dont give a damn because its their creative property not ours and it is a business so they try to mak what will sell.There are a few devlopers out there that truly listen to the fans, CCP comes to mind as do a few others. The best way to voice your opinion to them is with your pocket book, the second is on their official forums. BioShock got a collectors edition because enough fans signed the petition.
Who cares if a game stays exclusive to the PS3 as long as the PS3 still gets the game WHO GOD DAMN CARES!!!! Its a business and they need to make money. I think the only games that should be exclusive are 1st and 2nd party games, with a select few 3rd party devlopers deciding to fully utilize one system. Other than that I would make the game that I could on all the systems I could get the full experience on, that way I would get more money to keep devloping good games.
Getting games on all platforms you say. Ok, than look at Splinter Cell DA, F.E.A.R. and I'm sure that R6 Vegas will look like Sh*t as well on the PS3. I think as soon as developers decided that they will go multiplatform tha game will suffer. Why? Because they invest a lot of money and time to develope for more than one console insted of investing all that on one. I would love to be prooved wrong but my hopes aren't high for even GTA4.....I wanna see what will that game deliver for example. One city only? How big? It's like going back in time.
Those games were devloped on the x360 first, then ported to the PS3 which is a new architecture and is very hard to program for RIGHT NOW! Why? Because its still a fairly new system. Once everyone gets use to the hardware. All multiplatform games will be running fine and no difference will be seen, and if there is...it will be minimal.Again so what is GTA4 is only one city? They are devloping a NEXT GEN gta they can't make the world 50x the size of San Andreas and still give us everything we want thats next gen that we dont even know about, unless of course instead of the game getting released in October 2007 you would like it to get released in October 2010, which would make it the only GTA on next gen console. give devlopers time to learn these new techniques and architectures. Do you program or devlop mods and games? I do and its tough work and a continuing learning experience ESPECIALLY with the speed that technology moves at.
I think it will be great to play, and personally cannot wait.
You talk about how developers don't care etc etc blah blah blah, yet mention a game where the developers *really* don't care about their player base (EA's BF series) and who gets a BF game for the single player?
As for Motorstorm, brilliant fun and I'm still enjoying online play.
I'm sure that most of you have seen the gameplay videos of Warhawk on ign.com or wherever else. Well to be honest I'm not impressed at all. I was very dissapointed when they decided that there will be no single player campaign in the game. i was really looking forwar to Warhawk but after that point I didn't really cared. But for some reason I still wanted to see how it's shapeing out. But to me the game looks stupid. I'm sorry to say that but what has Warhawk got that another shooter game hasn't?? If I wanna play online I much rather play Battlefield 2142 than Warhawk and BF also has a single player campaign and the game is cheaper and to me it looks and plays much better! I think Warhawk will soon be forgotten. To be honest to me Warhawk is another half done game such as Motorstorm is. What's going on with these developers?? Are they so lazy to make a decent game? Or all they care about is getting our money as soon and as fast as possible? Well to tell you the truth for that reason I wont be getting Warhawk. I'm not giving a single cent to these lazy people who couldn't even make a decent single playar campaign to Warhawk. What is your opinion?
HunAndras1984
i have to agree with you on the most points, although i think that motorstorm is a great game and the only thing i miss there is the splitscreen option. anyway when i first heard about warhawk for ps3 i thought that this is going to be a hit game. now that they stated that there will be no single player mode i am no more interested in this game. at least not the way i've been when i first heard about it. i am really curious about the price of the game. i think they shouldn't charge as much as for a "normal" game. i am not sure but i think i have read that they left out the single player mode because many people weren't interested in it at all.
[QUOTE="HunAndras1984"][QUOTE="acidBURN1942"][QUOTE="HunAndras1984"][QUOTE="acidBURN1942"]Im reserving most judegment until i get a chance to play it.
Im sure if they make the gameplay mechanics really really good. And the fan response is " We Need Warhawk Single player back!!!" Then they will do it, if not in a new game (more likely) or a downloadable expansion (I would ratehr see this being supported)acidBURN1942
Havent you noticed that developers don't give a damn about people? They do it their way, you like it or not. You know how many people wanted single player in Warhawk? More people wanted it to have single player than just multiplayer. Still they decided on multiplayer. How many people wanted DMC4 to be a PS3 exclusive. Still it's going to go to the 360. How many people want FFXIII to be a PS3 exclusive....there is a good chance it will go to the 360. How many things we want and hope that developers dont care about???? Millions....all I see is promisses and nothing delivered btu taken away from.
Well a lot of devlopers dont give a damn because its their creative property not ours and it is a business so they try to mak what will sell.There are a few devlopers out there that truly listen to the fans, CCP comes to mind as do a few others. The best way to voice your opinion to them is with your pocket book, the second is on their official forums. BioShock got a collectors edition because enough fans signed the petition.
Who cares if a game stays exclusive to the PS3 as long as the PS3 still gets the game WHO GOD DAMN CARES!!!! Its a business and they need to make money. I think the only games that should be exclusive are 1st and 2nd party games, with a select few 3rd party devlopers deciding to fully utilize one system. Other than that I would make the game that I could on all the systems I could get the full experience on, that way I would get more money to keep devloping good games.
Getting games on all platforms you say. Ok, than look at Splinter Cell DA, F.E.A.R. and I'm sure that R6 Vegas will look like Sh*t as well on the PS3. I think as soon as developers decided that they will go multiplatform tha game will suffer. Why? Because they invest a lot of money and time to develope for more than one console insted of investing all that on one. I would love to be prooved wrong but my hopes aren't high for even GTA4.....I wanna see what will that game deliver for example. One city only? How big? It's like going back in time.
Those games were devloped on the x360 first, then ported to the PS3 which is a new architecture and is very hard to program for RIGHT NOW! Why? Because its still a fairly new system. Once everyone gets use to the hardware. All multiplatform games will be running fine and no difference will be seen, and if there is...it will be minimal.Again so what is GTA4 is only one city? They are devloping a NEXT GEN gta they can't make the world 50x the size of San Andreas and still give us everything we want thats next gen that we dont even know about, unless of course instead of the game getting released in October 2007 you would like it to get released in October 2010, which would make it the only GTA on next gen console. give devlopers time to learn these new techniques and architectures. Do you program or devlop mods and games? I do and its tough work and a continuing learning experience ESPECIALLY with the speed that technology moves at.
I understand that it's a new system. I understand that it's hard to develop for right now. But it's not an excuse to deliver bad graphics or bad games. Also it's not an excuse to make something smaller than it was before. It's like Tekken 4 after Tekken Tag Tournament. I was dissapointed with Tekken 4 as hell. So few caracters. I don't want GTA4 to be 50x larger than S.A. but I want it to be at least as big or if it's small than not noticably smaller. But we know to little about GTA4 but as for what we know about it.....it's hardly what I expected. Maybe I want to much...but there where so much promisses and there is nothing delivered. There is 50gb of disc space for god sakes....why can't they use that? And don't even tell me that if they where to make GTA4 as big as SA was it would have came out in 2010 because that's BS.
[QUOTE="acidBURN1942"][QUOTE="HunAndras1984"][QUOTE="acidBURN1942"][QUOTE="HunAndras1984"][QUOTE="acidBURN1942"]Im reserving most judegment until i get a chance to play it.
Im sure if they make the gameplay mechanics really really good. And the fan response is " We Need Warhawk Single player back!!!" Then they will do it, if not in a new game (more likely) or a downloadable expansion (I would ratehr see this being supported)HunAndras1984
Havent you noticed that developers don't give a damn about people? They do it their way, you like it or not. You know how many people wanted single player in Warhawk? More people wanted it to have single player than just multiplayer. Still they decided on multiplayer. How many people wanted DMC4 to be a PS3 exclusive. Still it's going to go to the 360. How many people want FFXIII to be a PS3 exclusive....there is a good chance it will go to the 360. How many things we want and hope that developers dont care about???? Millions....all I see is promisses and nothing delivered btu taken away from.
Well a lot of devlopers dont give a damn because its their creative property not ours and it is a business so they try to mak what will sell.There are a few devlopers out there that truly listen to the fans, CCP comes to mind as do a few others. The best way to voice your opinion to them is with your pocket book, the second is on their official forums. BioShock got a collectors edition because enough fans signed the petition.
Who cares if a game stays exclusive to the PS3 as long as the PS3 still gets the game WHO GOD DAMN CARES!!!! Its a business and they need to make money. I think the only games that should be exclusive are 1st and 2nd party games, with a select few 3rd party devlopers deciding to fully utilize one system. Other than that I would make the game that I could on all the systems I could get the full experience on, that way I would get more money to keep devloping good games.
Getting games on all platforms you say. Ok, than look at Splinter Cell DA, F.E.A.R. and I'm sure that R6 Vegas will look like Sh*t as well on the PS3. I think as soon as developers decided that they will go multiplatform tha game will suffer. Why? Because they invest a lot of money and time to develope for more than one console insted of investing all that on one. I would love to be prooved wrong but my hopes aren't high for even GTA4.....I wanna see what will that game deliver for example. One city only? How big? It's like going back in time.
Those games were devloped on the x360 first, then ported to the PS3 which is a new architecture and is very hard to program for RIGHT NOW! Why? Because its still a fairly new system. Once everyone gets use to the hardware. All multiplatform games will be running fine and no difference will be seen, and if there is...it will be minimal.Again so what is GTA4 is only one city? They are devloping a NEXT GEN gta they can't make the world 50x the size of San Andreas and still give us everything we want thats next gen that we dont even know about, unless of course instead of the game getting released in October 2007 you would like it to get released in October 2010, which would make it the only GTA on next gen console. give devlopers time to learn these new techniques and architectures. Do you program or devlop mods and games? I do and its tough work and a continuing learning experience ESPECIALLY with the speed that technology moves at.
I understand that it's a new system. I understand that it's hard to develop for right now. But it's not an excuse to deliver bad graphics or bad games. Also it's not an excuse to make something smaller than it was before. It's like Tekken 4 after Tekken Tag Tournament. I was dissapointed with Tekken 4 as hell. So few caracters. I don't want GTA4 to be 50x larger than S.A. but I want it to be at least as big or if it's small than not noticably smaller. But we know to little about GTA4 but as for what we know about it.....it's hardly what I expected. Maybe I want to much...but there where so much promisses and there is nothing delivered. There is 50gb of disc space for god sakes....why can't they use that? And don't even tell me that if they where to make GTA4 as big as SA was it would have came out in 2010 because that's BS.
Your right! Its not an excuse to release bad ports, they should have either NOT released them or taken more time on them OR just waited till the sequels to make sure both experiences were top-notch.Tekken Tag Tournament was suppose to be like that though, and Tekken 4 they changed the fighting mechanics (which was worse idea ever by Namco) so they couldn't add everyone back in or they would have to had balanced everyone out again taking more time which equals money.
Yea it might not come out in 2010, but it would take a year or two more, the point is it would take much much more time to make all that content. More characters, more level design, more textures, more sounds, they have to pay people to make those. If they cut back on the "size" they can focus on a highly polished game while they learn the systems, ALSO they can start making money and hear repsonse from the fans on what they did and did not like about their next-gen GTA and then they take that info and money and start making GTA: (Weird City Name Here)
They won't use 50Gb of space because 50gb is a LOT oh my dear lord a LOT of space to fill. Thats a lot of content to make, thats a lot of time to spend. There will be games eventually that take advantage of that space, by using uncompressed files and high resolution textures but it all takes TIME. We are in the first-gen of teh next gen. Things will move slow, but with time we will see high quality games every which way and not know what to do. Right now there are just not enough high quality games to compare and contrast to.
The best thing we can do, is take our knowledge and passion of the industry and reform it from the inside by making high-quality games that will make other companies want to follow in our stead.
[QUOTE="HunAndras1984"][QUOTE="acidBURN1942"][QUOTE="HunAndras1984"][QUOTE="acidBURN1942"][QUOTE="HunAndras1984"][QUOTE="acidBURN1942"]Im reserving most judegment until i get a chance to play it.
Im sure if they make the gameplay mechanics really really good. And the fan response is " We Need Warhawk Single player back!!!" Then they will do it, if not in a new game (more likely) or a downloadable expansion (I would ratehr see this being supported)acidBURN1942
Havent you noticed that developers don't give a damn about people? They do it their way, you like it or not. You know how many people wanted single player in Warhawk? More people wanted it to have single player than just multiplayer. Still they decided on multiplayer. How many people wanted DMC4 to be a PS3 exclusive. Still it's going to go to the 360. How many people want FFXIII to be a PS3 exclusive....there is a good chance it will go to the 360. How many things we want and hope that developers dont care about???? Millions....all I see is promisses and nothing delivered btu taken away from.
Well a lot of devlopers dont give a damn because its their creative property not ours and it is a business so they try to mak what will sell.There are a few devlopers out there that truly listen to the fans, CCP comes to mind as do a few others. The best way to voice your opinion to them is with your pocket book, the second is on their official forums. BioShock got a collectors edition because enough fans signed the petition.
Who cares if a game stays exclusive to the PS3 as long as the PS3 still gets the game WHO GOD DAMN CARES!!!! Its a business and they need to make money. I think the only games that should be exclusive are 1st and 2nd party games, with a select few 3rd party devlopers deciding to fully utilize one system. Other than that I would make the game that I could on all the systems I could get the full experience on, that way I would get more money to keep devloping good games.
Getting games on all platforms you say. Ok, than look at Splinter Cell DA, F.E.A.R. and I'm sure that R6 Vegas will look like Sh*t as well on the PS3. I think as soon as developers decided that they will go multiplatform tha game will suffer. Why? Because they invest a lot of money and time to develope for more than one console insted of investing all that on one. I would love to be prooved wrong but my hopes aren't high for even GTA4.....I wanna see what will that game deliver for example. One city only? How big? It's like going back in time.
Those games were devloped on the x360 first, then ported to the PS3 which is a new architecture and is very hard to program for RIGHT NOW! Why? Because its still a fairly new system. Once everyone gets use to the hardware. All multiplatform games will be running fine and no difference will be seen, and if there is...it will be minimal.Again so what is GTA4 is only one city? They are devloping a NEXT GEN gta they can't make the world 50x the size of San Andreas and still give us everything we want thats next gen that we dont even know about, unless of course instead of the game getting released in October 2007 you would like it to get released in October 2010, which would make it the only GTA on next gen console. give devlopers time to learn these new techniques and architectures. Do you program or devlop mods and games? I do and its tough work and a continuing learning experience ESPECIALLY with the speed that technology moves at.
I understand that it's a new system. I understand that it's hard to develop for right now. But it's not an excuse to deliver bad graphics or bad games. Also it's not an excuse to make something smaller than it was before. It's like Tekken 4 after Tekken Tag Tournament. I was dissapointed with Tekken 4 as hell. So few caracters. I don't want GTA4 to be 50x larger than S.A. but I want it to be at least as big or if it's small than not noticably smaller. But we know to little about GTA4 but as for what we know about it.....it's hardly what I expected. Maybe I want to much...but there where so much promisses and there is nothing delivered. There is 50gb of disc space for god sakes....why can't they use that? And don't even tell me that if they where to make GTA4 as big as SA was it would have came out in 2010 because that's BS.
Your right! Its not an excuse to release bad ports, they should have either NOT released them or taken more time on them OR just waited till the sequels to make sure both experiences were top-notch.Tekken Tag Tournament was suppose to be like that though, and Tekken 4 they changed the fighting mechanics (which was worse idea ever by Namco) so they couldn't add everyone back in or they would have to had balanced everyone out again taking more time which equals money.
Yea it might not come out in 2010, but it would take a year or two more, the point is it would take much much more time to make all that content. More characters, more level design, more textures, more sounds, they have to pay people to make those. If they cut back on the "size" they can focus on a highly polished game while they learn the systems, ALSO they can start making money and hear repsonse from the fans on what they did and did not like about their next-gen GTA and then they take that info and money and start making GTA: (Weird City Name Here)
They won't use 50Gb of space because 50gb is a LOT oh my dear lord a LOT of space to fill. Thats a lot of content to make, thats a lot of time to spend. There will be games eventually that take advantage of that space, by using uncompressed files and high resolution textures but it all takes TIME. We are in the first-gen of teh next gen. Things will move slow, but with time we will see high quality games every which way and not know what to do. Right now there are just not enough high quality games to compare and contrast to.
The best thing we can do, is take our knowledge and passion of the industry and reform it from the inside by making high-quality games that will make other companies want to follow in our stead.
Youre absolutley right! In every way! I know it takes more time and money to develop more content....but than! Raise up the game's price to 69.99. I'm sure that each and every single person who played GTA before will buy it no matter how much it is....it could even be 79.99 and people would still buy it. As for me....I would buy it even for 99.99 if it was as big or bigger than GTA:SA. Just look at Halo 3. There are 3 edditions.....59.99, 99.99 and 129.99Â . I bet you that many people will buy the 129.99 edition.
Youre absolutley right! In every way! I know it takes more time and money to develop more content....but than! Raise up the game's price to 69.99. I'm sure that each and every single person who played GTA before will buy it no matter how much it is....it could even be 79.99 and people would still buy it. As for me....I would buy it even for 99.99 if it was as big or bigger than GTA:SA. Just look at Halo 3. There are 3 edditions.....59.99, 99.99 and 129.99 . I bet you that many people will buy the 129.99 edition.HunAndras1984Yea, prices are ridiculous. Personally I would never purchase any game if it was over the MSRP (which is already high at 59.99) I will purchase the 129.99 version of Halo 3 though because its got The MJOLNIR Helmet and 4 worthy discs of the Legendary edition. They should not have released a special edition for it though, thats just milking the audience for more money. But hey! Thats Microshaft for ya ;)
I would never buy GTA4 for 99.99 if it didnt have lots of special features to make it worth that much. I really do hope prices drop as manufactoring blu-rays gets cheaper. But then again the DVD9's the 360 uses are still 59.99 but hey thats one of the things I want to try and change when my company gets big. If I can release HIGH Qaulity games for $39.99 then everyone would buy them. Forcing the competition to follow suit. I hope....
[QUOTE="HunAndras1984"][QUOTE="acidBURN1942"][QUOTE="HunAndras1984"][QUOTE="acidBURN1942"][QUOTE="HunAndras1984"][QUOTE="acidBURN1942"]Im reserving most judegment until i get a chance to play it.
Im sure if they make the gameplay mechanics really really good. And the fan response is " We Need Warhawk Single player back!!!" Then they will do it, if not in a new game (more likely) or a downloadable expansion (I would ratehr see this being supported)acidBURN1942
Havent you noticed that developers don't give a damn about people? They do it their way, you like it or not. You know how many people wanted single player in Warhawk? More people wanted it to have single player than just multiplayer. Still they decided on multiplayer. How many people wanted DMC4 to be a PS3 exclusive. Still it's going to go to the 360. How many people want FFXIII to be a PS3 exclusive....there is a good chance it will go to the 360. How many things we want and hope that developers dont care about???? Millions....all I see is promisses and nothing delivered btu taken away from.
Well a lot of devlopers dont give a damn because its their creative property not ours and it is a business so they try to mak what will sell.There are a few devlopers out there that truly listen to the fans, CCP comes to mind as do a few others. The best way to voice your opinion to them is with your pocket book, the second is on their official forums. BioShock got a collectors edition because enough fans signed the petition.
Who cares if a game stays exclusive to the PS3 as long as the PS3 still gets the game WHO GOD DAMN CARES!!!! Its a business and they need to make money. I think the only games that should be exclusive are 1st and 2nd party games, with a select few 3rd party devlopers deciding to fully utilize one system. Other than that I would make the game that I could on all the systems I could get the full experience on, that way I would get more money to keep devloping good games.
Getting games on all platforms you say. Ok, than look at Splinter Cell DA, F.E.A.R. and I'm sure that R6 Vegas will look like Sh*t as well on the PS3. I think as soon as developers decided that they will go multiplatform tha game will suffer. Why? Because they invest a lot of money and time to develope for more than one console insted of investing all that on one. I would love to be prooved wrong but my hopes aren't high for even GTA4.....I wanna see what will that game deliver for example. One city only? How big? It's like going back in time.
Those games were devloped on the x360 first, then ported to the PS3 which is a new architecture and is very hard to program for RIGHT NOW! Why? Because its still a fairly new system. Once everyone gets use to the hardware. All multiplatform games will be running fine and no difference will be seen, and if there is...it will be minimal.Again so what is GTA4 is only one city? They are devloping a NEXT GEN gta they can't make the world 50x the size of San Andreas and still give us everything we want thats next gen that we dont even know about, unless of course instead of the game getting released in October 2007 you would like it to get released in October 2010, which would make it the only GTA on next gen console. give devlopers time to learn these new techniques and architectures. Do you program or devlop mods and games? I do and its tough work and a continuing learning experience ESPECIALLY with the speed that technology moves at.
I understand that it's a new system. I understand that it's hard to develop for right now. But it's not an excuse to deliver bad graphics or bad games. Also it's not an excuse to make something smaller than it was before. It's like Tekken 4 after Tekken Tag Tournament. I was dissapointed with Tekken 4 as hell. So few caracters. I don't want GTA4 to be 50x larger than S.A. but I want it to be at least as big or if it's small than not noticably smaller. But we know to little about GTA4 but as for what we know about it.....it's hardly what I expected. Maybe I want to much...but there where so much promisses and there is nothing delivered. There is 50gb of disc space for god sakes....why can't they use that? And don't even tell me that if they where to make GTA4 as big as SA was it would have came out in 2010 because that's BS.
Your right! Its not an excuse to release bad ports, they should have either NOT released them or taken more time on them OR just waited till the sequels to make sure both experiences were top-notch.Tekken Tag Tournament was suppose to be like that though, and Tekken 4 they changed the fighting mechanics (which was worse idea ever by Namco) so they couldn't add everyone back in or they would have to had balanced everyone out again taking more time which equals money.
Yea it might not come out in 2010, but it would take a year or two more, the point is it would take much much more time to make all that content. More characters, more level design, more textures, more sounds, they have to pay people to make those. If they cut back on the "size" they can focus on a highly polished game while they learn the systems, ALSO they can start making money and hear repsonse from the fans on what they did and did not like about their next-gen GTA and then they take that info and money and start making GTA: (Weird City Name Here)
They won't use 50Gb of space because 50gb is a LOT oh my dear lord a LOT of space to fill. Thats a lot of content to make, thats a lot of time to spend. There will be games eventually that take advantage of that space, by using uncompressed files and high resolution textures but it all takes TIME. We are in the first-gen of teh next gen. Things will move slow, but with time we will see high quality games every which way and not know what to do. Right now there are just not enough high quality games to compare and contrast to.
The best thing we can do, is take our knowledge and passion of the industry and reform it from the inside by making high-quality games that will make other companies want to follow in our stead.
I agree with you.. In time, the disc space will become more apparent for uncompressed files etc possibly..You can't expect developers to fill up 50 gb of space with actual in-game content. It costs too much and takes up way too much time. Some games are already taking 3 or so years to make, games that are on DVDs.. How can a company afford to make more without price hikes? When money is split between publishers and developers and every other cost involved.. the slices get smaller and smaller. This is a lot of people's argument with whether or not Sony should or should not have included a BluRay drive. I won't give my opinion on that, people seem pretty touchy 'round these parts.
I seem to recall that they had been working on a single player campaign, realized it sucked and added nothing, and scrapped it in order to make the only play as good as possible.
I personally am REALLY looking forward to this one. Also, the price shouldn't be too bad as it is heavily rumored (and possibly confirmed?) that this will be a PS Store download.
I dont see how this guy can have such an opinion when the game isnt even out yet. Like most of the reasonable people here, I'll reserve my judgement for when the game is actually out. This guy sounds more like a 360 troll to me.Spartan8907
You make me laugh!!! Go and read my blog for example!!! 360 troll??? yea right!!! My opinion was BASED ON WHAT I'VE SEN IN GOD DAMN VIDEOS OF THAT FRIKKIN GAME!!!!!!!!!!!! HOW COME NO ONE CAN UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN I START OF BY SAYING VIDEO?????????Â
gametrailers.com has a lot more gameplay videos than anyone else and i am beyond impressed with that i've seen so far. the game isn't even finished yet and it still looks amazing to me. i loved the Twisted Metal series and Warhawk is exactly that. Twisted Metal with jets. i cannot wait.
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I think I have to be more clear!!! Judgeing from the videos and screenshots....are eny of you frikken statisfied with it??? Are you people play stupid???? or what??? I know that the game is not out yet, yet all of you are trying to tell me..."o my god how can I judge this it's not even out yet"Â Did you see screenshots?? Did you see videos of gameplay? You can't judge from that?? Than how the hell are you people saying that Metal Gear Solid 4 will kick as?? Or for tthat matter...Killzone 2....there was only one CGI movie and yet everyone is saying it will be huge!!! What's wrong with you people??? Saying that I'm an idiot and things like that!!! So much hate here.....I can't even belive! You guys made me so frikkin mad it's not even funny!HunAndras1984
settle down there. these people have a point.
you're saying you aren't fully satisfied with Warhawk and you haven't even played it. that's their point. don't come to the PS3 boards bashing our games or else, you get the PS3 fanboy treatment. it's as simple as that. if you're going to cry about it, just leave this thread.
[QUOTE="HunAndras1984"]I think I have to be more clear!!! Judgeing from the videos and screenshots....are eny of you frikken statisfied with it??? Are you people play stupid???? or what??? I know that the game is not out yet, yet all of you are trying to tell me..."o my god how can I judge this it's not even out yet"Â Did you see screenshots?? Did you see videos of gameplay? You can't judge from that?? Than how the hell are you people saying that Metal Gear Solid 4 will kick as?? Or for tthat matter...Killzone 2....there was only one CGI movie and yet everyone is saying it will be huge!!! What's wrong with you people??? Saying that I'm an idiot and things like that!!! So much hate here.....I can't even belive! You guys made me so frikkin mad it's not even funny!Warkunt
settle down there. these people have a point.
you're saying you aren't fully satisfied with Warhawk and you haven't even played it. that's their point. don't come to the PS3 boards bashing our games or else, you get the PS3 fanboy treatment. it's as simple as that. if you're going to cry about it, just leave this thread.
Dude, I'm a PS fanboy myself! But I also like other consoles. But I know a bad game when I see one! And I also know when some people just blindly hype any game that is put out just to make their system mor glorious!!! You're telling me that Warhawk is good as is? Well it's not! And gaming wont improove that much if people are ok with trash like this!
Dude, I'm a PS fanboy myself! But I also like other consoles. But I know a bad game when I see one! And I also know when some people just blindly hype any game that is put out just to make their system mor glorious!!! You're telling me that Warhawk is good as is? Well it's not! And gaming wont improove that much if people are ok with trash like this!
HunAndras1984
What makes you think we're blindly hyping this game and what constitutes crap? Just because it's missing something you wanted doesn't mean everyone shouldn't like it.Â
[QUOTE="Warkunt"][QUOTE="HunAndras1984"]I think I have to be more clear!!! Judgeing from the videos and screenshots....are eny of you frikken statisfied with it??? Are you people play stupid???? or what??? I know that the game is not out yet, yet all of you are trying to tell me..."o my god how can I judge this it's not even out yet"Â Did you see screenshots?? Did you see videos of gameplay? You can't judge from that?? Than how the hell are you people saying that Metal Gear Solid 4 will kick as?? Or for tthat matter...Killzone 2....there was only one CGI movie and yet everyone is saying it will be huge!!! What's wrong with you people??? Saying that I'm an idiot and things like that!!! So much hate here.....I can't even belive! You guys made me so frikkin mad it's not even funny!HunAndras1984
settle down there. these people have a point.
you're saying you aren't fully satisfied with Warhawk and you haven't even played it. that's their point. don't come to the PS3 boards bashing our games or else, you get the PS3 fanboy treatment. it's as simple as that. if you're going to cry about it, just leave this thread.
Dude, I'm a PS fanboy myself! But I also like other consoles. But I know a bad game when I see one! And I also know when some people just blindly hype any game that is put out just to make their system mor glorious!!! You're telling me that Warhawk is good as is? Well it's not! And gaming wont improove that much if people are ok with trash like this!
"i know a bad game when i see one"
see? you're judging Warhawk to be a piece of crap without knowing the facts.
that's why you're not welcome here. you state your opinions like they're known facts. just quit your whining and leave this thread. for your own sake.
FOR CHRIST SAKE! YOU HAVE TO PLAY THE GAME TO MAKE A JUDGEMENT!
stop it already! Everyone always says, "Oh boo hoo, Warhawk isnt ______!" Get over it. Play if first for god sake, then make a decision. Also from what I SEE, this game looks awesome, far better than your standard fly around and shoot things kind of game. Give it up, go over to IGN and see that a large majority of people are for this game. You sir are in the minority, don't come here anymore, don't speak anymore of these topics, I don't know if who you are but you sound very immature about these kind of things, please stop wasting all of our time on these boards with pointless topics. Â
Ok I guess you all know better than me!!! Just wayt for that game to come out...pay your 49.99 for it and be disapointed and than when 200 other games like that will follow don't be surprised because people like you supported it!! Also..how would you feal if suddenly they said that MGS4 only will feature multiplayer damn good right?? Tought so!! Anyways!!! You guys enjoy it!!!HunAndras1984
Ok! Thanks! Have a nice day!Â
Ok I guess you all know better than me!!! Just wayt for that game to come out...pay your 49.99 for it and be disapointed and than when 200 other games like that will follow don't be surprised because people like you supported it!! Also..how would you feal if suddenly they said that MGS4 only will feature multiplayer damn good right?? Tought so!! Anyways!!! You guys enjoy it!!!HunAndras1984
actually it's 59.99 for next-gen games. and again, how do you know we'll be disappointed? god.
just leave. you're immature and stuff.
Yeah! Get the hell out of here!JoeyDrey
That's verry mature!!!
[QUOTE="JoeyDrey"]Yeah! Get the hell out of here!HunAndras1984
That's verry mature!!!
it is, compared to your posts.
you sound like a complete xbox 360 fanboy right now which is the reason why you're unwelcome on our boards.
and that was the lamest example i've ever seen. "how do you know MGS4 is going to be good?" um. because the others were beyond "good"? because Hideo Kojima made it? because it's a next-gen MGS game? you obviously haven't played the games. anyone who has is already excited about MGS4.
you're embarassing yourself atm.
quit your trolling and leave the PS3 boards.
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