Are fat models guarenteed YLOD?

I thought PS3 was supposed to be the most reliable so it's interesting to hear of so much speak of YLOD. The main reason why I ask is because I can trade my slim for a metal gear gunmetal PS3. This is the fat model and I've always wanted it. I've already tested it and it looks and plays beautifully, but I also buy systems with hopes to play them years down the road so if it's a timebomb then I'll just have to pass on it.

It's interesting how some say the newer models look ugly and original owners pride themselves of their big toy. That's kinda how I feel and now I want a fat model so why not get a sweet looking one? So I just need to know if theoretically both the fat and slim models have equal potential to YLOD or kick the bucket, or is this more prone to fat models?

they do ylod more. they get hotter easier too.

Rubbish, they are just older, they have move miles on the clock. All these Slims will have a similar life pattern.Justinps2hero

Didn't you tell me not to get it if reliability was a concern? One thing to note is that I know the guy that has it and he takes care of stuff, and he bought it new. So would that change your opinion?

It seems like the bigger models would offer better cooling. I wonder if those getting YLOD are running their PS3s for hours on end. I don't usually do that for anything so assuming I used a fat model for a reasonable time and kept it in a cool environment.. could it potentially last as long as a slim? That's all I need to know.

I still have my 60gb launch fat. I gave it to my wee girl about a year ago as i got a slim with more gb, but i used to play and watch dvds on my fat for around 8-10 hours a day. It was always on and its still going strong.

Will a new ps3 last longer than an old on? Then surely the answer will be yes.Justinps2hero

This makes sense due to age. But I still want to know if their is a fatal coherent design flaw in the fat models.. or is it just because their older? We're adults and take care of things. I mean I still have my Sega Genesis and play it from time to time. 2006 isn't old IMO. Not old enough for consoles to have problems.

[QUOTE="Justinps2hero"]Will a new ps3 last longer than an old on? Then surely the answer will be yes.pathofneo99

This makes sense due to age. But hypothetically if you could get a fat NEW IN BOX could it potentially last as long as a slim? Strange analogy but me and my friend takes care of things so basically just want to know if their is a fatal coherent design flaw in the fat models.. and just because their older? I mean I still have my Sega Genesis and play it from time to time. 2006 isn't old IMO.

Cartridge-based systems have been proven to have longer lifespans that systems that require discs. No moving parts to break.ItsEvolution

So basically this leaves me to believe that if properly taken care of.. meaning not overdoing it and hot environments, then the fat model could last as long as the slim. All I'm hearing about is "more milage" on the fat models but not a design flaw unless someone can correct me.

Cartridge-based systems have been proven to have longer lifespans that systems that require discs. No moving parts to break.ItsEvolution

This raises another question. If Sony came out with an update to allow users to fully install every game to the harddrive.. could it then last longer? Less wear and tear. It could still check for authenticy with the disc inserted but it wouldn't spin as much, or am I dreaming and it wouldn't really matter? I guess then you'd just put more stress on the harddrive.

Oh well. I'm not an expert so if someone can just point out the particular problem fat models have that causes YLOD then I can determine if I can avoid the problem or decide myself it's not worth the trade.

They may have a higher failure rate, namely the 60GB model, but not even close into comparison with the earlier Xbox 360 models. My fat non-BC 80GB PS3 has been running just fine for close to 4 years now. I've upgraded its HDD, and the only issue it has is reading certain discs, mainly ones like Uncharted 3 with more layers or something.SoNin360

no , i have two fat models and they are working good as day1 since 2008

Well that's great to hear then. I suppose everytime I read about ylod it's directed toward the fat models but it seems slim is subject to as well under certain stress. I'd probably never play more than 2 hours a day (3 at most) and can go weeks without playing it so I'm gonna take the chance and go for it. I just pass it up, and for some reason always wanted the fat.. it's like I feel like it's the "real thing". I know I'm crazy like that.

YOLO!!!

Pretty much yes it is. Lots of playstation gamers have been ignorant of the common cause of the YLOD even to this day people choose to ignore it until of course it actually happens to them and realization sets in. It's just as bad is the XBOX360's RROD. It just takes longer to happen and all depends on how much the PS FAT has actually been used. There's no way of avoiding it really. It will happen eventually. If you go take the time to read about the common effects of the YLOD then you will soon realize it isn't just some simple overheating issue to do with dust or lack of quality thermal paste. It's to do with the lead-free solder breaking up that connects the GPU/CPU to the motherboard which is caused by hot and cold conditions over time.

I guess the Gamestop employees telling me I'm safe with a PS3 and that it'll "Never die" is just a bad theory then. I ask them about the original 06-08 models and their like "Yeah I'm still rockin' my 60gb and they don't die unlike RROD". Ppl still brainwarped, or biased I see.

Whatever the case it's not a problem. I'm gonna trade him knowing this and take the risk. It's just kinda misleading to hear about RROD on TV years ago.. literally exposed everywhere and I don't even recall any YLOD until I read about it here.

I'm sure my fat 160gb model will someday. The question is when. If it happens after the next gen is out, I wouldn't even care. Supposedly, the original PS2 ws also defective. Yet, I still have mine here.

My three year old fatty is still running as perfectly as the day I bought it. Got 20 platinums on it so it sees plenty of use.

I thought PS3 was supposed to be the most reliable so it's interesting to hear of so much speak of YLOD. The main reason why I ask is because I can trade my slim for a metal gear gunmetal PS3. This is the fat model and I've always wanted it. I've already tested it and it looks and plays beautifully, but I also buy systems with hopes to play them years down the road so if it's a timebomb then I'll just have to pass on it.

It's interesting how some say the newer models look ugly and original owners pride themselves of their big toy. That's kinda how I feel and now I want a fat model so why not get a sweet looking one? So I just need to know if theoretically both the fat and slim models have equal potential to YLOD or kick the bucket, or is this more prone to fat models?

pathofneo99

I wouldn't say they're "guaranteed." Are they more prone than the slims? Possibly. I bought mine in '08 and it's still working fine. Although I get nervous hearing about all these other people having their fats die. I think the next thing I buy is an extended warranty just to be safe since I can't afford buying a whole new console right now.Kravyn81

i bought my fat model 3-4 years ago pre-owned and i never had any significant issues.

it used to play blu-ray movies with distorted choppy image seemingly randomly (resetting it til it didnt happened fixed it, it happened as soon as the blu-ray started so if at the beginning didnt f*** up, it would play perfectly), but it hasnt recently. and aside from 1-3 instances were it froze randomly (aside from fallout 3, which froze all the time) i never had any issues with my fatty, i love it, didnt like the slim (fewer usb, they dont have the sd and other card slots *i think* and they cant play ps2 games if i remember correctly, or atleast some like that, maybe it was physical ps1 games, i dont remember)

i used to play and watch dvds on my fat for around 8-10 hours a day. It was always on and its still going strong.

voodoocanzo

I had a fat PS3 since it's release, recently sold it to a friend because I wanted a slim. According to him it's still working fine, I never had any problems with it either.

I owned the 80GB MGS4 bundle bought in 2008 and it YLOD in 2012:cry: RIP. I have a full time Job and average playtime is 2-5 hrs per day. Kept it very clean.I wouldn't say 'Guranteed' but the porbability is high in the long run compared to the slim and the new super slim.

Reasons:

1) Fat Models tend to expel ALOT of heat due to bigger power consumption.

2) Lots of exhaust opening means more chances of dust bunny build up due to more dust particles going in.

3) Inefficient and inferior quality of thermal paste (which is common in all models and recommended to replace with a good one after warranty).

4) Unleaded solder used by Sony in CPU/GPU which cracks up after numerous heat cycles.

My theory is you can extend the inevitable YLOD maybe a couple more years down the road if you take the precautionary measures of replacing thermal paste with a high qaulity one and keeping the PS3 in a cool environment, vacuum the exhasuts twice a year and open up the PS3 to clean it from inside with vacuum to suck up any dust bunny build up.

My PS3 fat died 3 times but never got YLOD lol

Fat 80 gb 2008. YOLD twice, first time about six months ago and again 5 days ago sent off once again. Just recieved it back still will get hot and shut down in about 1 hour.

It has been use a lot by all who live here. The only true fix I believe is to have it re-balled.

you know i owned mine since feb 07 one of the last 60 gig models produced before the 80 gig came into play ,

and i still have mine it looks beat up (the reader cover broke and the footing is warped ,(mthe little silver thing on bottom came off)

but its still running like new? so how is that? mine has also fell twice

still working ,i think some people dont take care of their system for it to ylod on them they must let it get dusty

I owned the 80GB MGS4 bundle bought in 2008 and it YLOD in 2012:cry: RIP. I have a full time Job and average playtime is 2-5 hrs per day. Kept it very clean.I wouldn't say 'Guranteed' but the porbability is high in the long run compared to the slim and the new super slim.

Reasons:

1) Fat Models tend to expel ALOT of heat due to bigger power consumption.

2) Lots of exhaust opening means more chances of dust bunny build up due to more dust particles going in.

3) Inefficient and inferior quality of thermal paste (which is common in all models and recommended to replace with a good one after warranty).

4) Unleaded solder used by Sony in CPU/GPU which cracks up after numerous heat cycles.

My theory is you can extend the inevitable YLOD maybe a couple more years down the road if you take the precautionary measures of replacing thermal paste with a high qaulity one and keeping the PS3 in a cool environment, vacuum the exhasuts twice a year and open up the PS3 to clean it from inside with vacuum to suck up any dust bunny build up.

Oldgun

^This is pretty much correct on all acounts TC

And my MGS4 80GB PS3 of that same year also bit the dust this year like yours as well. Ive gotten it fixed, but as we know its only a matter of time before it happens again. I plan to buy a slim model and do the full on memory transfer between them at some point. You can keep the system as clean and well as possible, but theres no stopping those internal problems. Frankly every sony system ive had has broken down at one point or another (except psp), so im going to wait on there next gen systems, because that is far too big of a problem for them to overlook, and who knows if they wont do it again. Your better off with a slim model in the end, the fat ones are far more prone to this issue, its almost an inevitability with them. Some have avoided it for now, but they wont be lucky for long i can guarantee you that.

I've had my 80 gig since 2007 and it's still going strong. I have 3000 hours (120days of playtime) of playing COD not to mention all the other games I've finished.

(...)they were never going to be a tough as the ps2, now that was a tough brick of a unit(...)Justinps2hero

[QUOTE="Oldgun"]

I owned the 80GB MGS4 bundle bought in 2008 and it YLOD in 2012:cry: RIP. I have a full time Job and average playtime is 2-5 hrs per day. Kept it very clean.I wouldn't say 'Guranteed' but the porbability is high in the long run compared to the slim and the new super slim.

Reasons:

1) Fat Models tend to expel ALOT of heat due to bigger power consumption.

2) Lots of exhaust opening means more chances of dust bunny build up due to more dust particles going in.

3) Inefficient and inferior quality of thermal paste (which is common in all models and recommended to replace with a good one after warranty).

4) Unleaded solder used by Sony in CPU/GPU which cracks up after numerous heat cycles.

My theory is you can extend the inevitable YLOD maybe a couple more years down the road if you take the precautionary measures of replacing thermal paste with a high qaulity one and keeping the PS3 in a cool environment, vacuum the exhasuts twice a year and open up the PS3 to clean it from inside with vacuum to suck up any dust bunny build up.

Gohansephiroth

^This is pretty much correct on all acounts TC

And my MGS4 80GB PS3 of that same year also bit the dust this year like yours as well. Ive gotten it fixed, but as we know its only a matter of time before it happens again. I plan to buy a slim model and do the full on memory transfer between them at some point. You can keep the system as clean and well as possible, but theres no stopping those internal problems. Frankly every sony system ive had has broken down at one point or another (except psp), so im going to wait on there next gen systems, because that is far too big of a problem for them to overlook, and who knows if they wont do it again. Your better off with a slim model in the end, the fat ones are far more prone to this issue, its almost an inevitability with them. Some have avoided it for now, but they wont be lucky for long i can guarantee you that.

I'm on my 3rd PS3, which is a slim now, but my previous 2 were fat models that both got the YLOD.

The YLOD thing isn't as bad a people make it seem. Its actually something like 0.5% of those consoles were actually effected according to Sony.