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Australian study says: PS3 will sell 100 million consoles
Posted Apr 24th 2007 5:00PM by Nick Doerr

For consumers under 40, a recent study produced by Connection Research showed there is no doubt in their mind that the Sony brand is still as popular now as it was before the latest generation of consoles were released. This is good because for market researchers, Australia has been a fairly good indicator for how the Western world will react to any given device.

The study questioned over 3,000 participants with a series of questions about individual and household usage of technology. They were asked to name their preferred brands of certains bits of hardware, including video game consoles. No prompts were given -- it was all up to the consumer. The results for 2007 echoed the results from 2006: then, Sony was the preferred game console (40%). Now, Sony dropped an overwhelmingly unbelievably gigantic amount... 39%. So, the mind share of consumers still belongs to Sony. Now Sony just needs to find a way to get an equal amount of wallet share. Like... games. Oh, summer, you must come to the US now, so we can snag some decent PS3-centric titles!
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Sony consoles will continue to rule over Microsoft: report
By Stan Beer
Wednesday, 18 April 2007

A new sample of more than 3000 Australian consumers indicates that Sony will continue to dominate the games console space in coming years, despite being late to market with the PlayStation 3. The findings of the report The Connected Home in 2007 from Connection Research suggest that Sony is likely to sell more than 100 million PS3 consoles, emulating the success of the two earlier models, according to one of the authors.

The research shows that the consoles market in Australia, which is a fairly close indicator of the main Western markets outside of Japan, has developed into a three horse race. However, any perceptions that Sony has dropped its bundle in the eyes of consumers appear to be off the mark.

According to the research,for consumers under 40, Sony is as popular now as it was before PS3, Xbox 360 and Wii were released. This augurs well for the PS3's success in Australia, and indicates that Microsoft's advantage in being earlier to market will not be significant in the long term, the report concludes.

The report, based on a survey of 3005 consumers, asked a series of questions about individual and household usage of digital technology. One group of questions asked about respondents' preferred suppliers for 20 different technologies, including games consoles. The question on consoles was unprompted - no vendors' names were supplied. A similar question was asked in an identical 2006 survey, allowing responses to be compared year-on-year.

In 2006, Sony was preferred games console vendor of 40% of respondents, a figure that declined to just 39% in 2007. Over the same period Microsoft's figure rose from 21% to nearly 24%, and Nintendo's (following the release of the Wii) rose from 3.6% to 8.6%. All other suppliers, such as Sega, fell in popularity as the games console market rationalised into a three horse race.

"Microsoft's Xbox 360 beat Sony's Playstation 3 to the market in Australia by twelve months. Most commentators believe this has been greatly to Microsoft's advantage, and there is no doubt that one year's start has helped Microsoft's credibility as a games console supplier," says Graeme Philipson, Connection Research's research director.

"But new research shows that Sony has retained its mind share, at least among younger age groups. Sony is still the preferred games console vendor, by a margin of nearly two-to-one over Microsoft. Microsoft has closed the gap, but only slightly, and its growth is largely in the over 40 age group," Philipson said.

According to Philipson, the figures show just how hard it is to shift people's perceptions.

"We find time and again, in virtually all of our preferred vendor analysis, that initial market share translates into mind share, but that any subsequent changes in market share takes a long time to be reflected in mind share. Reputations in this industry are very important," he said.

"I was a little surprised and I expected that Microsoft would have come up more because of the massive one year advantage that it had over Sony when it released Xbox 360. However, there is an argument that going forward Sony will have the advantage with PS3 over the Xbox 360 because Microsoft came to the market early with an inferior product and may even have hurt itself."

Philipson believes the strong brand loyalty to Sony consoles will result in PS3 emulating the success of PS2 and PS1, which each sold more than 100 million units worldwide.

"I would be confident in saying that," he said. "The PS3 is technically a more advanced machine than the Xbox 360. The data indicates that despite being an year late to market, Sony has maintained its reputation as the better games machine. In the long term, when we look back at this in five years time, the one year lead that Microsoft had with Xbox 360 will be seen as not being at all significant."

And what of the Nintendo Wii?

Philipson said it has lifted Nintendo's stocks dramatically in the games space but not to the detriment of either Sony or Microsoft.

"It's not the same sort of machine and I would put it in a different category to the PlayStation and the Xbox," said Philipson. "A lot of people will have a Wii and either PlayStation or an Xbox. Because it's cheaper and it has that kinetic capability it provides a totally different gaming experience, so it's more complementary than competitive. However, not many consumers will own both a PS3 and an Xbox 360 because they're direct competitors."
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Australian study says: PS3 will sell 100 million consoles
Posted Apr 24th 2007 5:00PM by Nick Doerr

For consumers under 40, a recent study produced by Connection Research showed there is no doubt in their mind that the Sony brand is still as popular now as it was before the latest generation of consoles were released. This is good because for market researchers, Australia has been a fairly good indicator for how the Western world will react to any given device.

The study questioned over 3,000 participants with a series of questions about individual and household usage of technology. They were asked to name their preferred brands of certains bits of hardware, including video game consoles. No prompts were given -- it was all up to the consumer. The results for 2007 echoed the results from 2006: then, Sony was the preferred game console (40%). Now, Sony dropped an overwhelmingly unbelievably gigantic amount... 39%. So, the mind share of consumers still belongs to Sony. Now Sony just needs to find a way to get an equal amount of wallet share. Like... games. Oh, summer, you must come to the US now, so we can snag some decent PS3-centric titles!
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First of all i would like to say that i own a ps3 and i love it, i hope that it wins the next gen console war but we wont know if ps3 sells 100 million consoles untill it happens.
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Its pre-emtive to say SONY will end up 1st , 2nd and 3rd to have consoles which break the 100 million sold mark ...

   However its true PS3 has the potional - now come on SONY give us the games to make that potional become a reality !
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Its pre-emtive to say SONY will end up 1st , 2nd and 3rd to have consoles which break the 100 million sold mark ...

   However its true PS3 has the potional - now come on SONY give us the games to make that potional become a reality !
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Great information.  Post this baby in system wars, haha.
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As much as I would like to believe that what they say is true. we'll just have to wait and see. I think if MS can pull their collective heads out of their asses and fix the insane levels of problems with 360, then this would be a photo finish race.
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#9 mdl207
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Awesome article.

My only concern is using Australia to make predictions for how the rest of the world pans out.

Of course, I certainly hope the article is correct! 

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If blue ray loses the DVD format, I bet you that it'll be out-beat. Or atleast take a hard blow. But who knows- the PS2 started off slow too.
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what about 1 billion!
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all the analyst and firms can say all they want no one really know.  I remember a bunch of "studies" saying that nintendo would lose more ground this generation.  and that is not the case.  will the ps3 sell 100M it may but no one knows when. 
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The market in Australia is small.. Basing how well a console will ultimately do through one (small) region is a bit premature.
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The market in Australia is small.. Basing how well a console will ultimately do through one (small) region is a bit premature.Cellien

We don't agree on much but I'd have to agree with Cellien here.

I certainly hope the article rings true but I wouldn't be completely surprised if it goes the other way either. 

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[QUOTE="Cellien"]The market in Australia is small.. Basing how well a console will ultimately do through one (small) region is a bit premature.mdl207

We don't agree on much but I'd have to agree with Cellien here.

I certainly hope the article rings true but I wouldn't be completely surprised if it goes the other way either. 

Wow, glad we agree on something!
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System Wars has ended!! The min the PS3 showed up it ended. 2010 2010 2010!!!
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-----fanboy drivel deleted-----hellfire9988

:::::slow, sarcastic clapping:::::

I appreciate the effort you put into typing all this. But this is a PS3 board.

If you feel the need to knock the PS3 and compare and contrast it with the financial health of other gaming consoles, you should take it to SW.

Edit: I think you can spot it. 

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[QUOTE="mdl207"][QUOTE="hellfire9988"]

First of all, $ony is counting on the blu-ray player to sell their consoles for the next generation. Also seeing as consoles lifespan's are only 5 years, are 20million people going to buy a playstation each year? The answer is no. To take advantage of the blu-ray player, you need an HDTV, and of course the Playstation itself. An HDTV can cost thousands of dollars, and the playstation itself requires you to drop $600 for the console, another $50 for the HDMI cable, $30-50 for each blu-ray movie, and don't forget controllers and games. BOTTOM LINE, Blu-ray will die, HDDVD will die.

If you didn't buy the PS3 for its blu-ray capabilities, and just for the games, you could easily get a wii or a 360 for $350-200 less than the PS3. With the 360, you get the same graphics, actually slightly better than the PS3, and also more exclusive games, and almost no exclusives on the Playstation.

How many people searching for a console are going to buy a $600 console when they could get a revolutionary pick up and play console for more than 2 times less money? I'd say alot... And someone searching for something with a little more 'oomph' in the graphical department could pick up a 360 for $200 less! It doesn't make sense to buy a PS3 unless you have an HDTV, loads of cash, a 'need' to watch blu-ray movies, and having the will power to wait a whole 10 months after launch to get more than 1 decent game.

The blu-ray is going to die, Sony lost many of its exclusives, and you can get the same games on the 360 with the same graphics for a smaller price. So seeing as there have been a WHOPPING 2.6 million consoles sold so far, only 97.4 million to go in the next 4.5 years!! so by my calculations, hmmm Sony needs to sell only a few consoles a year, lets say 20 million?

Also "In 2006, Sony was preferred games console vendor of 40% of respondents, a figure that declined to just 39% in 2007. Over the same period Microsoft's figure rose from 21% to nearly 24%, and Nintendo's (following the release of the Wii) rose from 3.6% to 8.6%. All other suppliers, such as Sega, fell in popularity as the games console market rationalised into a three horse race."

Nintendo is the preffered console by only 8.6%? am I mistaken or has nintendo not sold more than double the next gen Consoles over Sony?hellfire9988

:::::slow, sarcastic clapping:::::

I appreciate the effort you put into typing all this. But this is a PS3 board.

If you feel the need to knock the PS3 and compare and contrast it with the financial health of other gaming consoles, you should take it to SW. 

blu-ray is not going to die you'll sounding like a 360 fanboy or a Will fanboy. I can smell your kind a mile away. Don't hate, just love or and walk away. 2010 2010 2010!!!

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Sorry to break your bubble, but in 2011 there will be a new next gen system...

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#23 mdl207
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Sorry to break your bubble, but in 2011 there will be a new next gen system...

hellfire9988

That's fantastic. Perhaps you can rejoice about it over in the Xbox360 forums or System Wars? 

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Sorry to break your bubble, but in 2011 there will be a new next gen system...

hellfire9988
Since when do systems come out every 5 years?  The only company to ever do that was MS with the Xbox and 360.  The ps3 came out almost a full 7 years after the ps2.  I'm estimating another 7 years at least for the ps3. Plenty of time imo.
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PS2 has already done that. I figure PS3 will do it too.
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First of all, $ony is counting on the blu-ray player to sell their consoles for the next generation. Also seeing as consoles lifespan's are only 5 years, are 20million people going to buy a playstation each year? The answer is no. To take advantage of the blu-ray player, you need an HDTV, and of course the Playstation itself. An HDTV can cost thousands of dollars, and the playstation itself requires you to drop $600 for the console, another $50 for the HDMI cable, $30-50 for each blu-ray movie, and don't forget controllers and games. BOTTOM LINE, Blu-ray will die, HDDVD will die.

If you didn't buy the PS3 for its blu-ray capabilities, and just for the games, you could easily get a wii or a 360 for $350-200 less than the PS3. With the 360, you get the same graphics, actually slightly better than the PS3, and also more exclusive games, and almost no exclusives on the Playstation.

How many people searching for a console are going to buy a $600 console when they could get a revolutionary pick up and play console for more than 2 times less money? I'd say alot... And someone searching for something with a little more 'oomph' in the graphical department could pick up a 360 for $200 less! It doesn't make sense to buy a PS3 unless you have an HDTV, loads of cash, a 'need' to watch blu-ray movies, and having the will power to wait a whole 10 months after launch to get more than 1 decent game.

The blu-ray is going to die, Sony lost many of its exclusives, and you can get the same games on the 360 with the same graphics for a smaller price. So seeing as there have been a WHOPPING 2.6 million consoles sold so far, only 97.4 million to go in the next 4.5 years!! so by my calculations, hmmm Sony needs to sell only a few consoles a year, lets say 20 million?

Also "In 2006, Sony was preferred games console vendor of 40% of respondents, a figure that declined to just 39% in 2007. Over the same period Microsoft's figure rose from 21% to nearly 24%, and Nintendo's (following the release of the Wii) rose from 3.6% to 8.6%. All other suppliers, such as Sega, fell in popularity as the games console market rationalised into a three horse race."

Nintendo is the preffered console by only 8.6%? am I mistaken or has nintendo not sold more than double the next gen Consoles over Sony?

 

hellfire9988

Wow! That sounds like a PR statment from a Microsoft xbox fanboy if I ever saw one. Prepare yourself to get PWNED! Ready?

1) Blu-ray will NOT die (Blu-ray Disc Sales Surpass One Million Mark).

2) Since when is a console's lifespan 5 years? Are you going by Microsoft standards? Sorry. But for Sony we're talking 10 years at least! Want proof? The PlayStation was launched in Japan on December 3, 1994, the United States on September 9, 1995, Europe on September 29, 1995, and Asia-Pacific in November 1995. On March 23, 2006, Sony announced the end of production. That's an 11 year production run.

The PS2 was released in Japan on March 4, 2000, in North America on October 26, 2000 and in Europe on November 24, 2000. What year is it now? Hint: 2007. How many years is that? Seven! How many PS2 have been sold? Over 120,000,000! Has Sony stopped production yet? I think not. In fact the PS2 has sold more than any console in monthly sales last month. What was that about "five year console lifespan?"

3) HDTVs will come down in price. And more people will be able to aford them. See link: 28-percent of Americans now own an HDTV

4) HDMI cables do not have to cost $50.00. They cost as low as $5.00 at monoprice.com. Or $14.95 at Kmart. And $26.95 at Walmart.

5) Blu-ray movies do not cost $30-$50. They cost $19.95 - $29.95. And less used. Multipacks cost more. But that's understanable.

6) The PS3 has sold over 3 MILLION!

7) 8.6% is the percentage the respondents rose to. It's not about market share or sales. It's about mindshare from 2006 to now.

 

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Sorry to break your bubble, but in 2011 there will be a new next gen system...

hellfire9988

 

In 2011 Sony will start planning for the PS4. But release will not happen until late 2012, early 2013. 

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Wow! That sounds like a PR statment from a Microsoft xbox fanboy if I ever saw one. Prepare yourself to get PWNED! Ready?

1) Blu-ray will NOT die (Blu-ray Disc Sales Surpass One Million Mark).

2) Since when is a console's live 5 years? Are you going by Microsoft standards? Sorry. But for Sony we're talking TEN years at least! Want proof? The PlayStation was launched in Japan on December 3, 1994, the United States on September 9, 1995, Europe on September 29, 1995, and Asia-Pacific in November 1995. On March 23, 2006, Sony announced the end of production. That's an 11 year production run.

The PS2 was released in Japan on March 4, 2000, in North America on October 26, 2000 and in Europe on November 24, 2000. What year is it now? Hint: 2007. How many years is that? Seven! How many PS2 have been sold? Over 120,000,000! Has Sony stopped production yet? I think not. In fact the PS2 has sold more than any console in monthly sales last month. What was that about "five years console lifespan?"

3) HDTVs will come down in price. And more people will be able to aford them. See link: 28-percent of Americans now own an HDTV

4) HDMI cables do not have to cost $50.00. They cost as low as $7.00 at monoprice.com. Or $14.95 at Kmart. And $26.95 at Walmart.

5) Blu-ray movies do not cost $30-$50. They cost $19.95 - $29.95. And less used. Multipacks cost more. But that's understanable.

6) The PS3 has sold over 3 MILLION!

7) 8.6% is the percentage the respondents rose to. It's not about market share or sales. It's about mindshare from 2006 to now.gizmo_logix

I love it. Factual, efficient, and oh yes...pwnage. 

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Well, recent articles showed that the ds was the most selling gaming machine of 2006. I'm not saying that the ps3 will fall, I'll wait and see what will happen, but I think this article is dum. They should make some researches. And no one can predict things like that.
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These threads always get high jacked by people who can't just read the article and say something small about it but have to prove themselves to the world. They HAVE TO just say why they believe the article is so WRONG.

dot dot dot. :|

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GIZMO_LOGIX said:

Wow! That sounds like a PR statment from a Microsoft xbox fanboy if I ever saw one. Prepare yourself to get PWNED! Ready? 1) Blu-ray will NOT die (Blu-ray Disc Sales Surpass One Million Mark). 2) Since when is a console's lifespan 5 years? Are you going by Microsoft standards? Sorry. But for Sony we're talking 10 years at least! Want proof? The PlayStation was launched in Japan on December 3, 1994, the United States on September 9, 1995, Europe on September 29, 1995, and Asia-Pacific in November 1995. On March 23, 2006, Sony announced the end of production. That's an 11 year production run. The PS2 was released in Japan on March 4, 2000, in North America on October 26, 2000 and in Europe on November 24, 2000. What year is it now? Hint: 2007. How many years is that? Seven! How many PS2 have been sold? Over 120,000,000! Has Sony stopped production yet? I think not. In fact the PS2 has sold more than any console in monthly sales last month. What was that about "five year console lifespan?" 3) HDTVs will come down in price. And more people will be able to aford them. See link: 28-percent of Americans now own an HDTV 4) HDMI cables do not have to cost $50.00. They cost as low as $5.00 at monoprice.com. Or $14.95 at Kmart. And $26.95 at Walmart. 5) Blu-ray movies do not cost $30-$50. They cost $19.95 - $29.95. And less used. Multipacks cost more. But that's understanable. 6) The PS3 has sold over 3 MILLION! 7) 8.6% is the percentage the respondents rose to. It's not about market share or sales. It's about mindshare from 2006 to now.

Most of your points are vaild.. except a few fanboyish remarks. I literally quit playing the PS1 almost 10 years ago (8 and a half years to be exact). The PS2 came out 5 years after the PS1 was released which makes it obsolete in the sense that it is outdated, within 5 years. Fanyboyism/opinion aside.. the PS3 will be out dated in 5-6 years. Sony put a spin on the whole 10 year lifespan thing.. Sure it may be around for 10 years, but if history repeats itself they will release something new well before 10 years. Lets think about how long 10 years - a decade - is.. The difference between SNES and PS2 should sum it up nicely. 10 years from now.. think about that. I also think you are putting your spin on how much a HDMI cable is, on average, at a retail store. Sure you may get them for $10 online, but at a normal store you will be paying on average $30-$50. My point is you have to use the common price when comparing prices with another console. For example, lets say you were comparing prices for the Ps3 and the other console (which I see on here a lot).. You can get the HD-DVD add on for $100-$130 online, but for comparing purposes.. you would say $199.. since that is the common retail price. So ya.. lots of good points, but you gotta steer clear of the fanboy spins. :)
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[QUOTE="hellfire9988"]

First of all, $ony is counting on the blu-ray player to sell their consoles for the next generation. Also seeing as consoles lifespan's are only 5 years, are 20million people going to buy a playstation each year? The answer is no. To take advantage of the blu-ray player, you need an HDTV, and of course the Playstation itself. An HDTV can cost thousands of dollars, and the playstation itself requires you to drop $600 for the console, another $50 for the HDMI cable, $30-50 for each blu-ray movie, and don't forget controllers and games. BOTTOM LINE, Blu-ray will die, HDDVD will die.

If you didn't buy the PS3 for its blu-ray capabilities, and just for the games, you could easily get a wii or a 360 for $350-200 less than the PS3. With the 360, you get the same graphics, actually slightly better than the PS3, and also more exclusive games, and almost no exclusives on the Playstation.

How many people searching for a console are going to buy a $600 console when they could get a revolutionary pick up and play console for more than 2 times less money? I'd say alot... And someone searching for something with a little more 'oomph' in the graphical department could pick up a 360 for $200 less! It doesn't make sense to buy a PS3 unless you have an HDTV, loads of cash, a 'need' to watch blu-ray movies, and having the will power to wait a whole 10 months after launch to get more than 1 decent game.

The blu-ray is going to die, Sony lost many of its exclusives, and you can get the same games on the 360 with the same graphics for a smaller price. So seeing as there have been a WHOPPING 2.6 million consoles sold so far, only 97.4 million to go in the next 4.5 years!! so by my calculations, hmmm Sony needs to sell only a few consoles a year, lets say 20 million?

Also "In 2006, Sony was preferred games console vendor of 40% of respondents, a figure that declined to just 39% in 2007. Over the same period Microsoft's figure rose from 21% to nearly 24%, and Nintendo's (following the release of the Wii) rose from 3.6% to 8.6%. All other suppliers, such as Sega, fell in popularity as the games console market rationalised into a three horse race."

Nintendo is the preffered console by only 8.6%? am I mistaken or has nintendo not sold more than double the next gen Consoles over Sony?

 

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Wow! That sounds like a PR statment from a Microsoft xbox fanboy if I ever saw one. Prepare yourself to get PWNED! Ready?

1) Blu-ray will NOT die ...

2) Since when is a console's lifespan 5 years? Are you going by Microsoft standards? Sorry. But for Sony we're talking 10 years at least! Want proof? The PlayStation was launched in Japan on December 3, 1994, the United States on September 9, 1995, Europe on September 29, 1995, and Asia-Pacific in November 1995. On March 23, 2006, Sony announced the end of production. That's an 11 year production run.

The PS2 was released in Japan on March 4, 2000, in North America on October 26, 2000 and in Europe on November 24, 2000. What year is it now? Hint: 2007. How many years is that? Seven! How many PS2 have been sold? Over 120,000,000! Has Sony stopped production yet? I think not. In fact the PS2 has sold more than any console in monthly sales last month. What was that about "five year console lifespan?"

3) HDTVs will come down in price. And more people will be able to aford them. See link: ..

4) HDMI cables do not have to cost $50.00. They cost as low as $5.00 at Or $14.95 at Kmart. And $26.95 at Walmart.

5) Blu-ray movies do not cost $30-$50. They cost $19.95 - $29.95. And less used. Multipacks cost more. But that's understanable.

6) The PS3 has sold over 3 MILLION!

7) 8.6% is the percentage the respondents rose to. It's not about market share or sales. It's about mindshare from 2006 to now.

 

Good GAWD! that was nasty ownage! take it easy on the troll his just .... well, no, I'm sorry. Ignore what I just said - FRY THE TROLL! :lol:
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 .... So ya.. lots of good points, but you gotta steer clear of the fanboy spins. :)Cellien
LMFAO! Look who the hell is talking :lol:
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[QUOTE="Cellien"] .... So ya.. lots of good points, but you gotta steer clear of the fanboy spins. :)chubear700
LMFAO! Look who the hell is talking :lol:

Why don't you quote everything I said? Worried people will read it? :)
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[QUOTE="chubear700"][QUOTE="Cellien"] .... So ya.. lots of good points, but you gotta steer clear of the fanboy spins. :)Cellien
LMFAO! Look who the hell is talking :lol:

Why don't you quote everything I said? Worried people will read it? :)

People can read it just fine. It's only 2 posts above but hey, you are very well own for your trollish ways on this forum so... what you huffed about anyway :question:
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[QUOTE="chubear700"][QUOTE="Cellien"][QUOTE="chubear700"][QUOTE="Cellien"]Most of your points are vaild.. except a few fanboyish remarks. I literally quit playing the PS1 almost 10 years ago (8 and a half years to be exact). The PS2 came out 5 years after the PS1 was released which makes it obsolete in the sense that it is outdated, within 5 years. Fanyboyism/opinion aside.. the PS3 will be out dated in 5-6 years. Sony put a spin on the whole 10 year lifespan thing.. Sure it may be around for 10 years, but if history repeats itself they will release something new well before 10 years. Lets think about how long 10 years - a decade - is.. The difference between SNES and PS2 should sum it up nicely. 10 years from now.. think about that. I also think you are putting your spin on how much a HDMI cable is, on average, at a retail store. Sure you may get them for $10 online, but at a normal store you will be paying on average $30-$50. My point is you have to use the common price when comparing prices with another console. For example, lets say you were comparing prices for the Ps3 and the other console (which I see on here a lot).. You can get the HD-DVD add on for $100-$130 online, but for comparing purposes.. you would say $199.. since that is the common retail price. So ya.. lots of good points, but you gotta steer clear of the fanboy spins. :)

LMFAO! Look who the hell is talking :lol:

Why don't you quote everything I said? Worried people will read it? :)

People can read it just fine. It's only 2 posts above but hey, you are very well own for your trollish ways on this forum so... what you huffed about anyway :question:

Huffed? If huffed you mean correcting someone.. then that would make 99% of the members on this forum huffed. I should be asking you that question as a matter of fact. You are the one that quoted my post first ;)
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Blu-ray cannot die simply because if you've ever tried to backup a  500 gigabyte hard disk to Dual Layer DVD (50 dual layer DVD disks required) then you know its simply NOT going to die.

The PC world will dictate that High Capacity optical will survive NO MATTER WHAT.

Since Dell / Apple / and others are all on the Blu-ray board its pretty clear that Blu-ray is probably going to dominate.

 

 

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Great information. Post this baby in system wars, haha.makingmusic476

Except they all have their studies that say the 360 or the Wii's going to win. I have no idea why we would look at this credibly while dismissing all the other surveys negative to the PS3. We simply can't say which console will win, but I believe the PS3 will be guranteed 60 million consoles at least.

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I will be contributing 1 to that 100 million next year,this is totally doable imo
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Cool!
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100 million consoles huh. Why don't they just start with trying to get 100 GOOD GAMES first!!!!
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GIZMO_LOGIX said:

Wow! That sounds like a PR statment from a Microsoft xbox fanboy if I ever saw one. Prepare yourself to get PWNED! Ready? 1) Blu-ray will NOT die (Blu-ray Disc Sales Surpass One Million Mark). 2) Since when is a console's lifespan 5 years? Are you going by Microsoft standards? Sorry. But for Sony we're talking 10 years at least! Want proof? The PlayStation was launched in Japan on December 3, 1994, the United States on September 9, 1995, Europe on September 29, 1995, and Asia-Pacific in November 1995. On March 23, 2006, Sony announced the end of production. That's an 11 year production run. The PS2 was released in Japan on March 4, 2000, in North America on October 26, 2000 and in Europe on November 24, 2000. What year is it now? Hint: 2007. How many years is that? Seven! How many PS2 have been sold? Over 120,000,000! Has Sony stopped production yet? I think not. In fact the PS2 has sold more than any console in monthly sales last month. What was that about "five year console lifespan?" 3) HDTVs will come down in price. And more people will be able to aford them. See link: 28-percent of Americans now own an HDTV 4) HDMI cables do not have to cost $50.00. They cost as low as $5.00 at monoprice.com. Or $14.95 at Kmart. And $26.95 at Walmart. 5) Blu-ray movies do not cost $30-$50. They cost $19.95 - $29.95. And less used. Multipacks cost more. But that's understanable. 6) The PS3 has sold over 3 MILLION! 7) 8.6% is the percentage the respondents rose to. It's not about market share or sales. It's about mindshare from 2006 to now. Cellien

Most of your points are vaild.. except a few fanboyish remarks. I literally quit playing the PS1 almost 10 years ago (8 and a half years to be exact). The PS2 came out 5 years after the PS1 was released which makes it obsolete in the sense that it is outdated, within 5 years. Fanyboyism/opinion aside.. the PS3 will be out dated in 5-6 years. Sony put a spin on the whole 10 year lifespan thing.. Sure it may be around for 10 years, but if history repeats itself they will release something new well before 10 years. Lets think about how long 10 years - a decade - is.. The difference between SNES and PS2 should sum it up nicely. 10 years from now.. think about that. I also think you are putting your spin on how much a HDMI cable is, on average, at a retail store. Sure you may get them for $10 online, but at a normal store you will be paying on average $30-$50. My point is you have to use the common price when comparing prices with another console. For example, lets say you were comparing prices for the Ps3 and the other console (which I see on here a lot).. You can get the HD-DVD add on for $100-$130 online, but for comparing purposes.. you would say $199.. since that is the common retail price. So ya.. lots of good points, but you gotta steer clear of the fanboy spins. :)





Cellien, go back and read what the my original reply was refuting. The issue isn't what you consider "obsolete" or "outdated." The issue is what time-frame does one consider feasible in order to sell 100,000,000 during its WHOLE life-span! Did you completely miss that point? Did the PS1 stop selling 5 years after it came out (just because you stopped playing it)? Has the PS2 stopped selling (7th year)? Hmmmm? The 10 year lifespan thing from Sony is THEM looking at the WHOLE business plan; which includes the 10+ year sales. Not just from ONE gamers perspective when he considers it "outdated." If in 2012 the PS3 is considered outdated it won't matter since it will still be selling ($149.95). And that's how the PS3 will sell 100 MIL+ again!
As far as the HDMI price. Yes, $50.00 is decent average. But just saying $50.00 and not letting others know about the $7.00 HDMI cables. Or even the $14.95 ones at Kmart or $26.95 ones at Wal-Mart is deception by omission.
No problem with the add on price. I didn't know you could get it on line for that price. Even though, I'll never get one because I'm diehard PS3 fan 4 LIFE!


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[QUOTE="GIJames248"]

[QUOTE="makingmusic476"]Great information. Post this baby in system wars, haha.LosDaddie

Except they all have their studies that say the 360 or the Wii's going to win. I have no idea why we would look at the credibly while dismissing all the other surveys negative to the PS3. We simply can't say which console will win, but I believe the PS3 will be guranteed 60 million consoles at least.

Hey now....take it easy on the fanboys. They don't like logic too much.

I was going to post some anti-PS3 studies in this thread, but I figured it's not worth the effort.


I'd like to see those studies. I have about four or five pro-Sony studies as well. And I've probably aready seen all the ant-Sony rubbish propaganda. Especially the ones that come from all those Microsoft-employee blogs.
Major "n00b" Nelson?  
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[QUOTE="Cellien"]GIZMO_LOGIX said:

Wow! That sounds like a PR statment from a Microsoft xbox fanboy if I ever saw one. Prepare yourself to get PWNED! Ready? 1) Blu-ray will NOT die (Blu-ray Disc Sales Surpass One Million Mark). 2) Since when is a console's lifespan 5 years? Are you going by Microsoft standards? Sorry. But for Sony we're talking 10 years at least! Want proof? The PlayStation was launched in Japan on December 3, 1994, the United States on September 9, 1995, Europe on September 29, 1995, and Asia-Pacific in November 1995. On March 23, 2006, Sony announced the end of production. That's an 11 year production run. The PS2 was released in Japan on March 4, 2000, in North America on October 26, 2000 and in Europe on November 24, 2000. What year is it now? Hint: 2007. How many years is that? Seven! How many PS2 have been sold? Over 120,000,000! Has Sony stopped production yet? I think not. In fact the PS2 has sold more than any console in monthly sales last month. What was that about "five year console lifespan?" 3) HDTVs will come down in price. And more people will be able to aford them. See link: 28-percent of Americans now own an HDTV 4) HDMI cables do not have to cost $50.00. They cost as low as $5.00 at monoprice.com. Or $14.95 at Kmart. And $26.95 at Walmart. 5) Blu-ray movies do not cost $30-$50. They cost $19.95 - $29.95. And less used. Multipacks cost more. But that's understanable. 6) The PS3 has sold over 3 MILLION! 7) 8.6% is the percentage the respondents rose to. It's not about market share or sales. It's about mindshare from 2006 to now. LosDaddie

Most of your points are vaild.. except a few fanboyish remarks. I literally quit playing the PS1 almost 10 years ago (8 and a half years to be exact). The PS2 came out 5 years after the PS1 was released which makes it obsolete in the sense that it is outdated, within 5 years. Fanyboyism/opinion aside.. the PS3 will be out dated in 5-6 years. Sony put a spin on the whole 10 year lifespan thing.. Sure it may be around for 10 years, but if history repeats itself they will release something new well before 10 years. Lets think about how long 10 years - a decade - is.. The difference between SNES and PS2 should sum it up nicely. 10 years from now.. think about that. I also think you are putting your spin on how much a HDMI cable is, on average, at a retail store. Sure you may get them for $10 online, but at a normal store you will be paying on average $30-$50. My point is you have to use the common price when comparing prices with another console. For example, lets say you were comparing prices for the Ps3 and the other console (which I see on here a lot).. You can get the HD-DVD add on for $100-$130 online, but for comparing purposes.. you would say $199.. since that is the common retail price. So ya.. lots of good points, but you gotta steer clear of the fanboy spins. :)

Excellent post.

I find it funny in the OP that it claims Sony losing 39% mindshare, yet they still expect the PS3 to sell 100million consoles? Yeah right, the PS3 will be lucky to hit 60million by the time the PS4 is out.

The USA was the PS2's largest market, but the PS3 is dead last in the USA with no signs of that changing.


The OP didn't say Sony was losing 39% mind-share. They said that they reached 39% mind-share of the thousands they surveyed.
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Yeah, they lost barely 1% mindshare despite the 360's headstart.  I have no idea what you were reading...
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Australia is a good indicator of what the Western world trend will be? lol A lot you guys are buying into comments like this? Wow.
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[QUOTE="hellfire9988"]

Sorry to break your bubble, but in 2011 there will be a new next gen system...

mdl207

That's fantastic. Perhaps you can rejoice about it over in the Xbox360 forums or System Wars? 

Haven't u heard there more likely won't be a next gen system! (only PS and xbox but not the nintendo!)

Who really care is not like they do huge things for the next gen. Well, the wii was OK!

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PLZ post this in System wars.