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#1 fengpeng
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With only a few more months to go before its release (if the rumor about releasing date is true), so little information Kojima is giving out. I feel Kojima is at the end of his inspiration. They simply don't have enough material to show. MGS4 may not come out as what we are expecting. Do you feel the same way deep down?

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#2 lusitanogamer
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No.
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#3 mike2136
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kojima always mess with our heads, well maybe my head
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#4 LiquidMetal14
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Bad feeling, you mean after all the dissapointing outings in the past? Note the sarcasm. If you want to call yourself a true MGS fan, then you know MSG4 will deliver. Have you read the concepts Kojima is implementing in this new game? That alone should have your interest peaked, or will hearing the David Hayter podcast sway you?
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#5 darkfame
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No way he's out of ideas... earlier he have stated the many of his ideas could not be realised due to limitations in the hardware.

Edit: earlier means of course on earlier hardware platforms. 

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#6 rosko123
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He always keeps the cards close to his chest. Remember we didnt even know about raiden till pretty much a month b4 the MGS2 launch
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#7 SkyCastleDan
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Honestly, what ever could you be talking about? What, it's not like franchises have ever lost their sense of creativity or anything. I mean, it's not like Final Fantasy hasn't completely run out of ideas for the last 3 additions to the series, right? They never have to fall back on cliches or anything. I hope  you can pick up the sarcasism in this little speech. I can see why you're afraid, but don't worry about it my friend. MGS4 will be fine, if not absolutely freaking incredible!
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#8 vstag
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I really can't see MGS4 comeing out anytime soon.  In fact it would be no shock to me if it got pushed back till 08.
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#9 soundthealarm
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you're wrong....sorry, but you're wrong....you'll see....
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#10 dstryr13
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i doubt it will get pushed back

kojima said they have been working on it for years so i mean it not like they started a year ago

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#11 gamefan
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The guy knows what he's doing. I'm not worried at all. I'm very confident he'll make us all very happy with maybe the last MGS.
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#12 Eddie-Vedder
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I´m sure it´s going to be an amazing game, the only thing I´m twisting my nose at, is the injections snake is going to need, I´m not sure exactly how it will work, but I don´t like the the ration thingy in MGS portable ops, it´s too stressfull and it will probably be along the same line. Does anyone know what the I´m talking about? and does anyone have any info on this?
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#13 RahKayne
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He always keeps the cards close to his chest. Remember we didnt even know about raiden till pretty much a month b4 the MGS2 launch
rosko123

 

i didn't know until I got the game, well kind of. 

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#14 Thomas-Crown
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With only a few more months to go before its release (if the rumor about releasing date is true), so little information Kojima is giving out. I feel Kojima is at the end of his inspiration. They simply don't have enough material to show. MGS4 may not come out as what we are expecting. Do you feel the same way deep down?

fengpeng

You haven't been a Kojima fan for long, have you?

Kojima is always like that when it comes to releasing info about Metal Gear. Not much is known about the game until it is actually really close to the release date or a working demo is released. Remember in MGS2? Raiden as a playable character was kept in the dark for so long and Kojima only give you a sneak peek of the character in the trailer close to the release date of the game. I only find out about Raiden when I played the game. :P

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#15 mack10
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I´m sure it´s going to be an amazing game, the only thing I´m twisting my nose at, is the injections snake is going to need, I´m not sure exactly how it will work, but I don´t like the the ration thingy in MGS portable ops, it´s too stressfull and it will probably be along the same line. Does anyone know what the I´m talking about? and does anyone have any info on this?Eddie-Vedder
I'd imagine it'll happen on its own throughout the game...like through cutscenes and crap...I don't think you'd have to inject him yourself...unless its been mentione that you have to already?
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#16 dstryr13
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[QUOTE="rosko123"]He always keeps the cards close to his chest. Remember we didnt even know about raiden till pretty much a month b4 the MGS2 launch
RahKayne

 

i didn't know until I got the game, well kind of. 

same here i was all like "WTF is this?" LOL
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#17 SkyCastleDan
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Yeah, there was squat on him before a month's time before the launch.
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#18 jechtshot78
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*Thinks back when all he showed of MGS2 was the tanker* Seems pretty normal to me :|
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#19 dstryr13
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 i wasnt ammused by it

i was pretty pissed that i couldnt play as snake, that is the whole reason for MGS, to be snake

well anyways Kojima is a brilliant man with a brilliant mind and i am sure he has once again put his full potential into MGS4 and will not let us down and will have it ready soon enough

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#20 SOLIDUS_SNAKE
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i know this game is gonna be great as long as they dont overdo the story and cutscenes and just try too hard.
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#21 Paul_TheGreat
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MGS4 will be GOTY.
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#22 Rakuho
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Nope. Maybe he just wants to move on with his work. You're reading way too much into this.
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#23 SkyCastleDan
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I really can't see MGS4 comeing out anytime soon.  In fact it would be no shock to me if it got pushed back till 08.vstag

Let's hope not. This game is on my list to gets for 2007!

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#24 LiquidMetal14
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[QUOTE="vstag"]I really can't see MGS4 comeing out anytime soon. In fact it would be no shock to me if it got pushed back till 08.SkyCastleDan

Let's hope not. This game is on my list to gets for 2007!

I think we all know that they are currently reconrding voice for the game so a 2007 release is almost cemented.
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#25 Denji
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With only a few more months to go before its release (if the rumor about releasing date is true), so little information Kojima is giving out. I feel Kojima is at the end of his inspiration. They simply don't have enough material to show. MGS4 may not come out as what we are expecting. Do you feel the same way deep down?

fengpeng

 

You obviously don't know how Kojima works do you? 

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#26 hyofinkl
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not at all.  Kojima likes to hide most of the best details about his games and it's the same thing for MGS4.  I can guarantee you it'll blow your mind when it finally releases.
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#27 X_CAPCOM_X
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Maybe instead of spending all of his time releasing information about his game, he is working his ass off on it.
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#28 risi37
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MGS4 is not coming this year
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#29 rappid_rabbit
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With only a few more months to go before its release (if the rumor about releasing date is true), so little information Kojima is giving out. I feel Kojima is at the end of his inspiration. They simply don't have enough material to show. MGS4 may not come out as what we are expecting. Do you feel the same way deep down?

fengpeng
I truly believe it wont make a 2007 release date...Im thinking spring 08...about a year from now.
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#30 Funkyhamster
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Maybe he's having trouble figuring out how to kill off Snake... he should go ask J.K. Rowling for help. :| By the way, if HP7 comes out later this year and Harry actually does die, will I have to put a spoiler tag on this post? :|
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#31 rappid_rabbit
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Maybe he's having trouble figuring out how to kill off Snake... he should go ask J.K. Rowling for help. :| By the way, if HP7 comes out later this year and Harry actually does die, will I have to put a spoiler tag on this post? :|Funkyhamster

Old age seems to be the theme...Snake will just keel over and kick the bucket.

Last scene of MGS4 will be a new clone of Snake as a baby. Leaving the door open for sequels should Kojima find the need to return to the series.

 

It was a loooong time before Metal Gear on NES showed up again on the PSX.

 

I can see it now...10 years from now...Metal Gear Stan (lol)

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#32 mjf249
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My god anyone who turns there back on Kojima is simply a flat-out idiot. Metal Gear Solid 4 will be his best creation yet. This man is a perfectionist, and honestly one of the greatest game directors/producers of our time.
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#33 Voltatriz
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this is kojima's last MGS game, the series that made him who he is today. You can expect him to put as much effort and thought into this one to make the series end with a bang. this will most likely be the best of the series.
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#34 AB_Uppercut
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The more I wait for MGS4 the more my excitement raises. I expect the next MGS4 trailer/pictures to come out at E3 time in June-July and it will look even better then last years trailers :shock:
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#35 rappid_rabbit
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this is kojima's last MGS game, the series that made him who he is today. You can expect him to put as much effort and thought into this one to make the series end with a bang. this will most likely be the best of the series. Voltatriz
Yeah the last Solid game...who knows if there will be a new iteration a decade from now. Staring a new protagonist.
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#36 ENIXMAN
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My god anyone who turns there back on Kojima is simply a flat-out idiot. Metal Gear Solid 4 will be his best creation yet. This man is a perfectionist, and honestly one of the greatest game directors/producers of our time.mjf249
Preach It
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#37 deadkingdg
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Kojima is always like that. MGS2 and MGS3 were the same. MGS is not like Final Fantasy where we can know the whole plot before the game is even out in japan.
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#38 NavigatorsGhost
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He has never made a crappy game. I doubt MGS4 will be his first.
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#39 big_boss4life
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2nd that
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#40 rogerjak
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How can you feel that? We are talking about Kojima, not some low life developer
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#41 fengpeng
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:cry:Sorry Kojima, I shouldn't have doubted you.

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#42 TheJihadJoe
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With only a few more months to go before its release (if the rumor about releasing date is true), so little information Kojima is giving out. I feel Kojima is at the end of his inspiration. They simply don't have enough material to show. MGS4 may not come out as what we are expecting. Do you feel the same way deep down?

fengpeng
your an idiot.
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#43 Myugenjin
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Easily 2 of the biggest games of 07 are MGS4 and Crysis, both games are pushing hte limits of what we knew as gamers and have many new innovative features that will be copied by others in their genre. Unlike the guyz at Crytek (needing as much publicity as they can get, also trying to sell a game engine) Kojima doesn't have to reveal that much of his work for it to be a sucess.

It's like those movie trailers where all the good parts are seen in the trailer leaving the rest of the movie dull. So sure we've seen lots from Halo 3 and even way more from Crysis but MGS4 (or maybe Japanese in general) like to keep the anticipation high by keeping a project under wraps as long as possible.

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#44 Stryder_18
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MGS4 will deliver, shoot even MGS Portable Ops was awsome, so their is no doubt in my head that it will deliever. Is this going to have online or not? anyone know.
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#45 mushi799
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With only a few more months to go before its release (if the rumor about releasing date is true), so little information Kojima is giving out. I feel Kojima is at the end of his inspiration. They simply don't have enough material to show. MGS4 may not come out as what we are expecting. Do you feel the same way deep down?

fengpeng
then dont play it
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#46 Col_Swamp
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kojima will deliver. IMO he always has, havent played an MGS i didnt love! WOO! I cant wait for MGS4! i wont leave my house for weeks!

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#47 coolguy681
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I really can't see MGS4 comeing out anytime soon.  In fact it would be no shock to me if it got pushed back till 08.vstag
Sony will need MGS4 to battle it out against Halo 3
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#48 mjf249
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[QUOTE="vstag"]I really can't see MGS4 comeing out anytime soon. In fact it would be no shock to me if it got pushed back till 08.coolguy681
Sony will need MGS4 to battle it out against Halo 3

Honestly Halo franchise is overrated. I'll probably end up buying it though when it comes to the Xbox 360. Halo 2 was decent but really disappointing considering all the attention it received.
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#49 Sully28
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how do you have a bad feeling? Its good he isnt releasing stuff so than you actually have surprises left in the game when you play it. This is comming 07 for sure and is going to make everyone love the ps3.

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#50 slyydevil
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I've always had this feeling that developers from the 8bit era created their games with such a huge story arc that it was until this generation of consoles will they see their ideas finally become realized. It's like if you were a director of a movie and you had these big ideas (i.e. special effects, huge explosions, car chases, etc..) that you want to implement into your film only to realize that you're limited by the budget so you don't get the actor you want, your explosions are reduced to a few firecrackers, and you visual effects are hand drawn...So once technology and your movie budget gets bigger you can begin to paint the masterpiece that you intending on doing in the first place. Location and the time frame may change but all in all it's what you wanted from the word go and this is what Kojima is simply doing. I don't see him falling flat with ideas for MGS.

 

By the way what era would this be considered as? Last gen was the 128 bit era and this era would be like 1,280 bit era? LMAO...