Banned console 800a227/ what to do with not signed trophies?

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#1 thamindflare
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Sup everyone. Subject: Week ago i was banned permamenty. I do not live in USA or Europe, so there is no real way to solve this problem but buy brand new console and continue my trophy grind Lol=) The reason i made this thread is that i got platinum on burnout (easy, but i dont really like to do that again... 35 hours,damn) and 2 arcade games 100%ed while i was offline. And then got ban suspended mssg while tryin to sing-in. So trophies was not counted online and i still got zeros on that games. -------------------------------------------------------- The Question is: Will i got a chance to sing-in and update online trophies info by just place my old HDD to new NOT banned ps3? Is there any profile info depend on insede console ID or whatever? ***-please do not recomend me anything about unban, just answer. thx
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#2 Scianix-Black
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Your trophies aren't on your HDD dude, they're on the Playstation servers.

If you don't get unbanned, you have to start over.

How the hell did you get banned in the first place?

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How the hell did you get banned in the first place?Scianix-Black
I would also like to know this.
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#4 Muridi
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Banned console ? so what, even if you make a new account on that system it wont work ?
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#5 Ronin893
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Come on, spill it.:D

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#6 Scianix-Black
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Banned console ? so what, even if you make a new account on that system it wont work ?Muridi

They can track down your console's IP and ban the whole console itself from ever signing onto the PSN.

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#7 thamindflare
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Your trophies aren't on your HDD dude, they're on the Playstation servers.

If you don't get unbanned, you have to start over.

How the hell did you get banned in the first place?

Scianix-Black
You mean... Really... Bad, really damn bad. But trophies should be connected with offline profile somehow, no? Before connecting to network and renewing actual list them shoul be holded somethere on ps3, should they? Or... Just explain me the mechanism all that trophy stuff working. Bout how i get this one - i have shared games with guys who actually brought them on stolen cc...
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I've never heard of anyone getting banned. In any case trophies are connected with the servers not your HDD, you'll have to start over.
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#9 Muridi
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[QUOTE="Muridi"]Banned console ? so what, even if you make a new account on that system it wont work ?Scianix-Black

They can track down your console's IP and ban the whole console itself from ever signing onto the PSN.

What if say, I was signed in with my account on a friends PS3, would his system get banned ? or do they track down the IP used when making account or something
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Banned console ? so what, even if you make a new account on that system it wont work ?Muridi
Sony said a while ago that if you got banned you would need to have another ISP and console because they would block both.
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#11 Scianix-Black
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Wow, Sony's really serious.

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#12 Muridi
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Ah damn it, I wont allow my friends play my PS3 online no more. I used to let my friends use my American account but damn that solution wont work if they ban the whole system.
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#13 thamindflare
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Will anybody explain me there did trophies actually located then i got them OFFLINE (BEFORE updating info on psn). They must be somethere. The question is on HDD or any Flash ps3 memory.... Maybe you just fully understand my question? I still cant get way trophies keep before sing'n-in psn.
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#14 Scianix-Black
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Your trophies are located on a certain part of your HDD until you sign in to PSN.

Once you do that, they're put onto the Sony servers and taken off your HDD, I believe.

If you were to only play your console offline and never sign in, then your trophies would be on your HDD, but then again you wouldn't be worrying about getting banend either.

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#15 Muridi
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Will anybody explain me there did trophies actually located then i got them OFFLINE (BEFORE updating info on psn). They must be somethere. The question is on HDD or any Flash ps3 memory.... Maybe you just fully understand my question? I still cant get way trophies keep before sing'n-in psn.thamindflare
If you was to make a new PSN account and check your offline trophy list, the list will be empty. Trophies are connected to your ID, not your system.
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This is how trophies work..

Whether you are signed in to the PSN or not doesn't matter..

You get them, they show up in your trophy collection however they are not displayed online..


So you have to sync them with the server, which there are a few ways to do so..
- triangle click on trophy collection and choose "sync with server"..
- compare trophies with someone..
- click on your ID to view your profile..

Now if you got a trophy and didn't sync, that trophy is just saved (saved not meaning the data just meaning that your system knows it's unlocked) to your system, meaning only your system recognizes that you achieved it..

Therefore if you did not sync your trophies prior to your "ban" and can't log into the PSN to sync, then you have to re-get those trophies..

But, if i remember correctly your account is banned meaning you can't use that ID.. So you would have to create a new user and sign up for the PSN again.. So really your whole trophy collection is lost..

So why did you get banned? PM me if it would get moderated by these sensitive types that roam these boards..

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#17 thamindflare
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Yup, and thats what i talking about. Mean - i was not singed-in since got 100% on astro trippuh and platinumized burnout. Thats mean I has NOT been singed in since i get them, cause ban error message not counted as "sing in" i believe. I think i still got a chance... Can anybody try puttin they hdd to another console and renew trophies (before - get 1-2 bronze offline) ?
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#18 Scianix-Black
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He got banned by sharing games with people who bought games with stolen credit cards.

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#19 thamindflare
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This is how trophies work..

Whether you are signed in to the PSN or not doesn't matter..

You get them, they show up in your trophy collection however they are not displayed online..


So you have to sync them with the server, which there are a few ways to do so..
- triangle click on trophy collection and choose "sync with server"..
- compare trophies with someone..
- click on your ID to view your profile..

Now if you got a trophy and didn't sync, that trophy is just saved (saved not meaning the data just meaning that your system knows it's unlocked) to your system, meaning only your system recognizes that you achieved it..

Therefore if you did not sync your trophies prior to your "ban" and can't log into the PSN to sync, then you have to re-get those trophies..

But, if i remember correctly your account is banned meaning you can't use that ID.. So you would have to create a new user and sign up for the PSN again.. So really your whole trophy collection is lost..

So why did you get banned? PM me if it would get moderated by these sensitive types that roam these boards..

NaughtyRag
Or, did't notice your reply. Thanks. Finally something serious. My REAL id with all trophies was not banned, but 2-3 frieds "4 share only acounts" were. And so console=((( *-I typed the real reason of my ban few posts ago.
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#20 Muridi
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Did you get banned because you was sharing games or was it because the credit cards were stolen ?
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#21 thamindflare
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Did you get banned because you was sharing games or was it because the credit cards were stolen ?Muridi
Fo sho... Cc. Sonyz do not really cares about sharing.
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#22 digitalfuzzy
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First ... you should actually be asking yourself the more important question . " How big of a schmuck do you have to be to get banned from a FREE service that has SIMPLE rules BASED on SIMPLE concepts TAUGHT IN KINDERGARTEN . secondly .... those trophies ??? forget em ... gone . because not only has the console been banned but the account with which you earned those trophies is PERMANETLY LOCKED and can never be logged into again . AND PEOPLE ... trophies are earned in game , saved to harddrive and synced to server . i had my ps3 for a year offline ... still earned trophies . they just didnt show on online profile untill i got online and synced . but this guy doesnt even need to worry about that as even buying a new console will not allow him to login to account wih which he offended and possibly any account he had on that console The moral of the story ???? PSN is not a lawless Free-for -all , OBEY THE RULES . it's not so suprising though ... How many here bothered to read the TOS (terms of service ) ??? im guessing nill to none . personally i have . i just thought it was a no brainer that they would ... go ahead read it .
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#23 digitalfuzzy
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[QUOTE="Scianix-Black"]

[QUOTE="Muridi"]Banned console ? so what, even if you make a new account on that system it wont work ?Muridi

They can track down your console's IP and ban the whole console itself from ever signing onto the PSN.

What if say, I was signed in with my account on a friends PS3, would his system get banned ? or do they track down the IP used when making account or something

under certain circumstances ... yes . that is why in the TOS it states YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE for everyone that uses your ps3 .
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#24 digitalfuzzy
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[QUOTE="Muridi"]Banned console ? so what, even if you make a new account on that system it wont work ?hiryu3
Sony said a while ago that if you got banned you would need to have another ISP and console because they would block both.

NO ... they cannot ban an ISP because then your AUTOMATICALLY banning thousands if not millions of users . each PS3 has a UNIQUE MAC ADDRESS associated to it's network HARDWARE . this mac address cannot be changed ... ever . they ban the mac address as banning IP only means one has to move or spoof another address .
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#25 digitalfuzzy
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Ah damn it, I wont allow my friends play my PS3 online no more. I used to let my friends use my American account but damn that solution wont work if they ban the whole system. Muridi
letting friends log into your account from a different console is a violation of TOS . not all bans are console bans . the least offenses get a simple temporary account ban with which an individual just cant login to a specific account for a time . Console bans are used for the most severe or habitual violations .
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#26 digitalfuzzy
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[QUOTE="Muridi"]Did you get banned because you was sharing games or was it because the credit cards were stolen ?thamindflare
Fo sho... Cc. Sonyz do not really cares about sharing.

NOT TRUE . if you read the TOS and PSN rules you will find that gamesharing is against policy . you really dont think they publish games for one person to buy and 50 others get for free and still expect profit right ???? no brainer , i knew that would be a rule , even before reading it .
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#27 digitalfuzzy
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a couple of last things here is a link to the terms of service --------- > http://legaldoc.dl.playstation.net/ps3-eula/psn/e/e_tosua_en.html and here is a list of things that can get you banned ,(has links to community code of conduct ) . --------- > http://us.playstation.com:80/support/answer/index.htm?a_id=1260#
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#28 Everiez
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Not possible. New PS3 will force you to format old HDD. Your un-synced trophies considered lost unless you can sync using your old PS3 which is not possible anymore since Sony banned your MAC address (unique hardware ID) to prevent you sync trophy and sign-in PSN even if you changed your public IP or ISP.

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[QUOTE="thamindflare"][QUOTE="Muridi"]Did you get banned because you was sharing games or was it because the credit cards were stolen ?digitalfuzzy
Fo sho... Cc. Sonyz do not really cares about sharing.

NOT TRUE . if you read the TOS and PSN rules you will find that gamesharing is against policy . you really dont think they publish games for one person to buy and 50 others get for free and still expect profit right ???? no brainer , i knew that would be a rule , even before reading it .

are you actually against sharing ? if you are, then *beep*me..:)

99% of our psncommunity is always FOR sharing , but you get this 1% of silly and depressive people.

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#30 jcopp72
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Your trophies aren't on your HDD dude, they're on the Playstation servers.

If you don't get unbanned, you have to start over.

How the hell did you get banned in the first place?

Scianix-Black

he didnt sync the trophies so yes they are on his hdd, but any way no you cant take the hdd out and put it in anouther ps3 and retain info. the system will formate the hdd after putting in in.

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get a new PSN name, console, and ISP. And be happy that you got off easy, only getting banned considering you were knowingly benefitting from stolen credit cards
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#32 MethodManFTW
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this thread is from june 09, i dont think he needs any more answers
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#33 lowkey254
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forget trophies,now that you're band, you can mod out your ps3.you will now have the greatest media center known to man, right behind a legit ps3.

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#34 DARKCHOAS
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this thread is from june 09, i dont think he needs any more answersMethodManFTW

I was just about to say the same thing. This thread is 18 months old. Let it die.

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#36 digitalfuzzy
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[QUOTE="MethodManFTW"] this thread is from june 09, i dont think he needs any more answersDARKCHOAS

I was just about to say the same thing. This thread is 18 months old. Let it die.

threads die natural deaths when they fail to spark conversation . this one will do rather than creating a new thread about the same issue .
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#37 MethodManFTW
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[QUOTE="digitalfuzzy"][QUOTE="DARKCHOAS"]

this thread is from june 09, i dont think he needs any more answersMethodManFTW

I was just about to say the same thing. This thread is 18 months old. Let it die.

threads die natural deaths when they fail to spark conversation . this one will do rather than creating a new thread about the same issue .

thats actually not how it works at gamespot, but i do agree with you. if old threads are revived after the TC's question has been answered sufficiently mods will lock them.
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#38 Arthas045
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[QUOTE="Muridi"][QUOTE="Scianix-Black"]

Banned console ? so what, even if you make a new account on that system it wont work ?Muridi

They can track down your console's IP and ban the whole console itself from ever signing onto the PSN.

What if say, I was signed in with my account on a friends PS3, would his system get banned ? or do they track down the IP used when making account or something

I would actually think they would ban the MAC address not the IP address...
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#39 commonfate
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[QUOTE="digitalfuzzy"][QUOTE="DARKCHOAS"]

I was just about to say the same thing. This thread is 18 months old. Let it die.

MethodManFTW

threads die natural deaths when they fail to spark conversation . this one will do rather than creating a new thread about the same issue .

thats actually not how it works at gamespot, but i do agree with you. if old threads are revived after the TC's question has been answered sufficiently mods will lock them.

Actually reviving a thread after it has been more than 10 days since it's last post is against GameSpot's ToU. So Mr. Fuzzy here you go and I highly suggest you read all the rules, including the one about not insulting users, before you post on GameSpot.

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#40 Foxdies
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sony should be serious about this.. hackers etc don't deserve to play, they already messed up the pc as a gamingplatform with that, gtfo ps3..

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#42 Whybanme1
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He got banned by sharing games with people who bought games with stolen credit cards.

Scianix-Black

Lol. Fail.

But on a more serious note, that sucks haha.

Anyway, yes, you are boned. It's all tied in with Sony, so you pretty much just have to start anew.

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#43 e_stone001
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All of your trophies are stashed on your HDD. Although your trophies won't show online like a few people said. Sony is doing everything in their will to protect theh PS3 and PSN. If you ever want to sync your trophies, you have to talk with your ISP about changing your IP address since they will ban both of those. Sorry to hear you got banned man.

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Once again ... an example of a person pullinfg info out of thin air . There is no such rule . there is this though . Trolling (Inciting flames):Messages that annoy and/or offend other users by going against the clear nature of a board, topic or chat room are not allowed. This includes, but is not limited to: provoking other users to respond with flames; provoking fans of a particular system or game, especially on boards or topics dedicated to that system or game; making misleading topic titles; asking obviously useless questions; posting false information as fact; and using another user?s quote in your signature without permission. take special note of " POSTING FALSE INFORMATION AS FACT . " not suprising though , I'm not exactly new to the forum scene , and already knew the silliness of such claim . Now were my comments INSULTS ??? DEBATABLE !!! not a single thing i said was false , nor do i regret or apologize for anything said because their ALL true ... unlike your claims .digitalfuzzy

its referred as disruptive behavior, which is not allowed. taken directly from the terms of use, which commonfate had linked:

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