Between HDMI and component cable...

not THAT much.. But between HDMI and composite... a BIG one.ArmoJan

Thanks. I asked because I'll be getting an CRT HDTV without an HDMI port.

Thanks. I asked because I'll be getting an CRT HDTV without an HDMI port.jsnepo

You won't notice anything.

You'd need 2 HDTVs one with HDMI and one with Component side by side with the same game running to tell the difference and you'd have to be nitpicking on top of that. 

Enjoy the step up to HD, it's good stuff :)

[QUOTE="jsnepo"]Thanks. I asked because I'll be getting an CRT HDTV without an HDMI port.Deyee

You won't notice anything.

You'd need 2 HDTVs one with HDMI and one with Component side by side with the same game running to tell the difference and you'd have to be nitpicking on top of that.

Enjoy the step up to HD, it's good stuff :)

Alright! I'll get the HDTV then. Thanks to all the responses. I appreciate it.

mostly with HDMI, it is nice to only have one cable for audio and video.. With component, there is three cables, plus two for the audio (or one optical). Not that much of a difference though.ArmoJan

The number of cables doesn't really matter. I have my PS2 setup with component cables anyway. 

just make sure your CRT you are going to buy at least goes up to 1080i.ArmoJan

Yes it does. I'm fully aware of some games that don'e get upscaled. Anyway, the CRT HDTV supports 720p and 1080i anyway. 

[QUOTE="ArmoJan"]just make sure your CRT you are going to buy at least goes up to 1080i.jsnepo

Yes it does. I'm fully aware of some games that don'e get upscaled. Anyway, the CRT HDTV supports 720p and 1080i anyway.

Make and model ?  There is really only one CRT on earth worth buying, and it is the best picture at the size money can buy. 

so whats a bigger jump composite to component? or component to hdmi?AsadMahdi59

Composite is not even hd.  And there is no difference in PQ between HDMI and component.

[QUOTE="AsadMahdi59"]so whats a bigger jump composite to component? or component to hdmi?BroweChisox

Composite is not even hd.  And there is no difference in PQ between HDMI and component.

then why the hell are hdmi cable so expensive? dont bring up monoprice, im talking in store prices. i mean is having just the one input thing worth twice the price?

[QUOTE="BroweChisox"]

[QUOTE="AsadMahdi59"]so whats a bigger jump composite to component? or component to hdmi?AsadMahdi59

Composite is not even hd. And there is no difference in PQ between HDMI and component.

then why the hell are hdmi cable so expensive? dont bring up monoprice, im talking in store prices. i mean is having just the one input thing worth twice the price?

Not like HDMI is the only expensive cable, Component can be over $100 too. It's just why on earth would they want to sell HDMI at $5 like Monoprice when they can sell Monster Brand and others for suckers and make huge profits that you can't get from $5. In the past it was somewhat plossible a better analog cable can help, but not digital, so paying for extra for bells and whistles that won't help the picture is pointless. But the average consumer doesn't know that.

 I mean when I bought my HD-DVD player on its launch day I caught a manager telling the employee just came out with it to make sure the customer does not leave the store without the most expensive HDMI cable. Was he doing that to make sure I get the best picture quality, hell no, he wanted to do that for the most profit. I mean the freaking player included an HDMI cable and this guy still wanted me to spend an extra $150 for no reason.

[QUOTE="jsnepo"]

[QUOTE="ArmoJan"]just make sure your CRT you are going to buy at least goes up to 1080i.BroweChisox

Yes it does. I'm fully aware of some games that don'e get upscaled. Anyway, the CRT HDTV supports 720p and 1080i anyway.

Make and model ? There is really only one CRT on earth worth buying, and it is the best picture at the size money can buy.

All CRT HDTVs are 1080i. And most all, 99%, don't do 720p. They usually have max of 540p, which make sense since that's half of 1080. Though, that's not to say a 1080i CRT can't accept 720p and convert it to 1080i, just as long as it doesn't convert it to 540p instead. 

All CRT HDTVs are 1080i. And most all, 99%, don't do 720p. They usually have max of 540p, which make sense since that's half of 1080. Though, that's not to say a 1080i CRT can't accept 720p and convert it to 1080i, just as long as it doesn't convert it to 540p instead. 

ok first of all the diff is that the hdmi was made to compaq the sound and pic in to one cable thats it nothing else they both support 1080p and so forth second 1080i IS 720p they just say 1080 so it sounds better your tv gose up to 720p most games do that anyway your good untouchables111

 Well, yes, they both support 1080p, but most studios will want HDMI because it being digital it can have much better copyright protection. And because of that, and depending on the brands, HDMI are usually the only port on 1080p tvs that accept 1080p, they don't bother will allowing component to go up to 1080p even though it could, not to say there are not some sets that do. 

Though, HDMI will have a slightly better picture than Component, being digital vs analog and all. Will it be noticable, probably not, depends on the tv too. And HDMI 1.3 allows for deep color that you can't do elsewhere so in the future it will be better. And while audio is paired with HDMI, it can actually be the best audio possible that not even an optical audio cable is capable of.

1080i is 1920*1080 split into two fields shown twice as fast (60fps) to give the illusion of seeing a complete 1920*1080 image at 30fps. How can you say that is the same as 720p when 720p 1280*720, but being progressive it can do full frames 60 times a second, while 1080i is 1920*540 per frame. And it's exactly that why CRT HDTVs can only do 540p because that's how many scanlines it can draw in one pass. 

But it's a good thing his tv accepts 720p and converts it to 1080i since the PS3 won't do it for you on those 720p only games. 

Depdnds on your screen size to be honest. I notice a differance in Componant to VGA, but no differance in VGA to HDMI On my 42".jechtshot78

HDMI isnt really nescesary on any tv under 52" becasue 1080p doesnt really shine on a set that is smaller than that. 

All CRT HDTVs are 1080i. And most all, 99%, don't do 720p. They usually have max of 540p,

 untouchables111

huh? 

[QUOTE="jechtshot78"]Depdnds on your screen size to be honest. I notice a differance in Componant to VGA, but no differance in VGA to HDMI On my 42".jigglebilly1983

HDMI isnt really nescesary on any tv under 52" becasue 1080p doesnt really shine on a set that is smaller than that.

huh? 

[QUOTE="jigglebilly1983"]

[QUOTE="jechtshot78"]Depdnds on your screen size to be honest. I notice a differance in Componant to VGA, but no differance in VGA to HDMI On my 42".ArmoJan

HDMI isnt really nescesary on any tv under 52" becasue 1080p doesnt really shine on a set that is smaller than that.

huh?

My A/V Junkie roomate tells me that you dont really notice the difference between 720p and 1080p (which is quite distinct once you see it) on tv's smaller than 52", and that if you have anything smaller 1080i or 720p is perfectly fine (even though there are smaller sets that support 1080p) so, theoreticly speaking, since HDMI is the best option for 1080p output, and a 52" tv is the the best option for 1080p quality, then HDMI wouldnt be as useful on a smaller set.

[QUOTE="jechtshot78"]Depdnds on your screen size to be honest. I notice a differance in Componant to VGA, but no differance in VGA to HDMI On my 42".jigglebilly1983

HDMI isnt really nescesary on any tv under 52" becasue 1080p doesnt really shine on a set that is smaller than that.

What are you babbling about?  1080p can be sent on HDMI and component.  1080p is useful if you sit at THX recommended distances REGARDLESS of the screen size.  There are way too many people who don't have a clue about home theater posting in these types of threads.  There are about 5 people in this entire forum that should be allowed to post .. guess what, you are not one of them... so stop spreading nonsense.  

[QUOTE="untouchables111"]

All CRT HDTVs are 1080i. And most all, 99%, don't do 720p. They usually have max of 540p,

ArmoJan

huh?

That was my post, but Untouchables111 accidently lost the quote for me when replying to it.

 All I was saying was CRT HDTVs are 1080i, they're all interlaced. There may be some rare expensive 720p/1080i CRT HDTVs, but most are limited to 540p/1080i when it comes to what they display, not to be confused with what the inputs support. A EDTV can support HD over it's inputs, but it will end up displaying it in ED.

[QUOTE="ArmoJan"][QUOTE="untouchables111"]

All CRT HDTVs are 1080i. And most all, 99%, don't do 720p. They usually have max of 540p,

TimothyB

huh?

That was my post, but Untouchables111 accidently lost the quote for me when replying to it.

All I was saying was CRT HDTVs are 1080i, they're all interlaced. There may be some rare expensive 720p/1080i CRT HDTVs, but most are limited to 540p/1080i when it comes to what they display, not to be confused with what the inputs support. A EDTV can support HD over it's inputs, but it will end up displaying it in ED.

what do u think about this tv?

 here

[QUOTE="TimothyB"][QUOTE="ArmoJan"][QUOTE="untouchables111"]

All CRT HDTVs are 1080i. And most all, 99%, don't do 720p. They usually have max of 540p,

ff7isnumbaone

huh?

That was my post, but Untouchables111 accidently lost the quote for me when replying to it.

All I was saying was CRT HDTVs are 1080i, they're all interlaced. There may be some rare expensive 720p/1080i CRT HDTVs, but most are limited to 540p/1080i when it comes to what they display, not to be confused with what the inputs support. A EDTV can support HD over it's inputs, but it will end up displaying it in ED.

what do u think about this tv?

here

That is well accepted as the worst CRT on the planet besides the crap made by insignia (actually best buy) 

[QUOTE="jigglebilly1983"]

[QUOTE="jechtshot78"]Depdnds on your screen size to be honest. I notice a differance in Componant to VGA, but no differance in VGA to HDMI On my 42".BroweChisox

HDMI isnt really nescesary on any tv under 52" becasue 1080p doesnt really shine on a set that is smaller than that.

What are you babbling about?  1080p can be sent on HDMI and component.  1080p is useful if you sit at THX recommended distances REGARDLESS of the screen size.  There are way too many people who don't have a clue about home theater posting in these types of threads.  There are about 5 people in this entire forum that should be allowed to post .. guess what, you are not one of them... so stop spreading nonsense.  

Ive seen 1080p on my 52" and 1080p on my friends 42". 1080p on the 42 looked no better than 720p. he lives upstairs from me, so we just went back and forth and look at the same game in the same spot. ive witnessed it. its real. deal and move on.

[QUOTE="BroweChisox"][QUOTE="jigglebilly1983"]

[QUOTE="jechtshot78"]Depdnds on your screen size to be honest. I notice a differance in Componant to VGA, but no differance in VGA to HDMI On my 42".jigglebilly1983

HDMI isnt really nescesary on any tv under 52" becasue 1080p doesnt really shine on a set that is smaller than that.

What are you babbling about? 1080p can be sent on HDMI and component. 1080p is useful if you sit at THX recommended distances REGARDLESS of the screen size. There are way too many people who don't have a clue about home theater posting in these types of threads. There are about 5 people in this entire forum that should be allowed to post .. guess what, you are not one of them... so stop spreading nonsense.

Ive seen 1080p on my 52" and 1080p on my friends 42". 1080p on the 42 looked no better than 720p. he lives upstairs from me, so we just went back and forth and look at the same game in the same spot. ive witnessed it. its real. deal and move on.

Well I can promise you that i have more expertise in the area.  What make and model are both tvs? 

[QUOTE="ArmoJan"][QUOTE="jigglebilly1983"]

[QUOTE="jechtshot78"]Depdnds on your screen size to be honest. I notice a differance in Componant to VGA, but no differance in VGA to HDMI On my 42".jigglebilly1983

HDMI isnt really nescesary on any tv under 52" becasue 1080p doesnt really shine on a set that is smaller than that.

huh?

My A/V Junkie roomate tells me that you dont really notice the difference between 720p and 1080p (which is quite distinct once you see it) on tv's smaller than 52", and that if you have anything smaller 1080i or 720p is perfectly fine (even though there are smaller sets that support 1080p) so, theoreticly speaking, since HDMI is the best option for 1080p output, and a 52" tv is the the best option for 1080p quality, then HDMI wouldnt be as useful on a smaller set.

I have my PS3 hooked up to my 26inch HD CRT and playing in 540p or 1080i through both component and HDMI there i a large difference, HDMI is clearer sharper and just a generally better image quality than component.

[QUOTE="jigglebilly1983"][QUOTE="BroweChisox"][QUOTE="jigglebilly1983"]

[QUOTE="jechtshot78"]Depdnds on your screen size to be honest. I notice a differance in Componant to VGA, but no differance in VGA to HDMI On my 42".BroweChisox

HDMI isnt really nescesary on any tv under 52" becasue 1080p doesnt really shine on a set that is smaller than that.

What are you babbling about? 1080p can be sent on HDMI and component. 1080p is useful if you sit at THX recommended distances REGARDLESS of the screen size. There are way too many people who don't have a clue about home theater posting in these types of threads. There are about 5 people in this entire forum that should be allowed to post .. guess what, you are not one of them... so stop spreading nonsense.

Ive seen 1080p on my 52" and 1080p on my friends 42". 1080p on the 42 looked no better than 720p. he lives upstairs from me, so we just went back and forth and look at the same game in the same spot. ive witnessed it. its real. deal and move on.

Well I can promise you that i have more expertise in the area.  What make and model are both tvs? 

Mine is a 52" Sharp Aquos, his is a 40 or 42" sony bravia. both are LCD

[QUOTE="jigglebilly1983"][QUOTE="ArmoJan"][QUOTE="jigglebilly1983"]

[QUOTE="jechtshot78"]Depdnds on your screen size to be honest. I notice a differance in Componant to VGA, but no differance in VGA to HDMI On my 42".americahellyeah

HDMI isnt really nescesary on any tv under 52" becasue 1080p doesnt really shine on a set that is smaller than that.

huh?

My A/V Junkie roomate tells me that you dont really notice the difference between 720p and 1080p (which is quite distinct once you see it) on tv's smaller than 52", and that if you have anything smaller 1080i or 720p is perfectly fine (even though there are smaller sets that support 1080p) so, theoreticly speaking, since HDMI is the best option for 1080p output, and a 52" tv is the the best option for 1080p quality, then HDMI wouldnt be as useful on a smaller set.

I have my PS3 hooked up to my 26inch HD CRT and playing in 540p or 1080i through both component and HDMI there i a large difference, HDMI is clearer sharper and just a generally better image quality than component.

That is because you have a crappy tv.  A good tv will display both connections identically. 

[QUOTE="BroweChisox"][QUOTE="jigglebilly1983"][QUOTE="BroweChisox"][QUOTE="jigglebilly1983"]

[QUOTE="jechtshot78"]Depdnds on your screen size to be honest. I notice a differance in Componant to VGA, but no differance in VGA to HDMI On my 42".jigglebilly1983

HDMI isnt really nescesary on any tv under 52" becasue 1080p doesnt really shine on a set that is smaller than that.

What are you babbling about? 1080p can be sent on HDMI and component. 1080p is useful if you sit at THX recommended distances REGARDLESS of the screen size. There are way too many people who don't have a clue about home theater posting in these types of threads. There are about 5 people in this entire forum that should be allowed to post .. guess what, you are not one of them... so stop spreading nonsense.

Ive seen 1080p on my 52" and 1080p on my friends 42". 1080p on the 42 looked no better than 720p. he lives upstairs from me, so we just went back and forth and look at the same game in the same spot. ive witnessed it. its real. deal and move on.

Well I can promise you that i have more expertise in the area. What make and model are both tvs?

Mine is a 52" Sharp Aquos, his is a 40 or 42" sony bravia. both are LCD

Alright, are you sitting near THX recommended distances? 

[QUOTE="americahellyeah"][QUOTE="jigglebilly1983"][QUOTE="ArmoJan"][QUOTE="jigglebilly1983"]

[QUOTE="jechtshot78"]Depdnds on your screen size to be honest. I notice a differance in Componant to VGA, but no differance in VGA to HDMI On my 42".BroweChisox

HDMI isnt really nescesary on any tv under 52" becasue 1080p doesnt really shine on a set that is smaller than that.

huh?

My A/V Junkie roomate tells me that you dont really notice the difference between 720p and 1080p (which is quite distinct once you see it) on tv's smaller than 52", and that if you have anything smaller 1080i or 720p is perfectly fine (even though there are smaller sets that support 1080p) so, theoreticly speaking, since HDMI is the best option for 1080p output, and a 52" tv is the the best option for 1080p quality, then HDMI wouldnt be as useful on a smaller set.

I have my PS3 hooked up to my 26inch HD CRT and playing in 540p or 1080i through both component and HDMI there i a large difference, HDMI is clearer sharper and just a generally better image quality than component.

That is because you have a crappy tv.  A good tv will display both connections identically. 

WHy you gotta break balls? ( yes the Tv is crappy) but i have also tried both on my 32inch Samsung LCD in both 1080i, 720p. and there is still a noticable difference.  HDMI just is the better connection, anyone who has actually seen them compared will tell you that HDMI is the best.

[QUOTE="BroweChisox"][QUOTE="jigglebilly1983"][QUOTE="BroweChisox"][QUOTE="jigglebilly1983"]

[QUOTE="jechtshot78"]Depdnds on your screen size to be honest. I notice a differance in Componant to VGA, but no differance in VGA to HDMI On my 42".jigglebilly1983

HDMI isnt really nescesary on any tv under 52" becasue 1080p doesnt really shine on a set that is smaller than that.

What are you babbling about? 1080p can be sent on HDMI and component. 1080p is useful if you sit at THX recommended distances REGARDLESS of the screen size. There are way too many people who don't have a clue about home theater posting in these types of threads. There are about 5 people in this entire forum that should be allowed to post .. guess what, you are not one of them... so stop spreading nonsense.

Ive seen 1080p on my 52" and 1080p on my friends 42". 1080p on the 42 looked no better than 720p. he lives upstairs from me, so we just went back and forth and look at the same game in the same spot. ive witnessed it. its real. deal and move on.

Well I can promise you that i have more expertise in the area. What make and model are both tvs?

Mine is a 52" Sharp Aquos, his is a 40 or 42" sony bravia. both are LCD

What game were you testing? Overall it depends how far away you sit from the tv. Like if you sit 10 feet from a 42inch 1080p tv, unless you got great vision it might be hard to make out the finer details of 1080p over 720p. But I don't see your point since all you have to do is sit closer to a tv and the size becomes a moot point. Would you tell someone not to get a 42inch 1080p tv when they might be sitting 4 feet from it?

And games are not the best thing to test because the resolution of textures is really important, so the detail overall might seem the same between 720 and 1080 thanks to the limit of the textures already reached at 720p. The 1080p version would have finer edges and more detail in distant objects if the game doesn't cut the graphics much in the distance. And again, if you sit closer, you'll notice.

[QUOTE="BroweChisox"][QUOTE="americahellyeah"][QUOTE="jigglebilly1983"][QUOTE="ArmoJan"][QUOTE="jigglebilly1983"]

[QUOTE="jechtshot78"]Depdnds on your screen size to be honest. I notice a differance in Componant to VGA, but no differance in VGA to HDMI On my 42".americahellyeah

HDMI isnt really nescesary on any tv under 52" becasue 1080p doesnt really shine on a set that is smaller than that.

huh?

My A/V Junkie roomate tells me that you dont really notice the difference between 720p and 1080p (which is quite distinct once you see it) on tv's smaller than 52", and that if you have anything smaller 1080i or 720p is perfectly fine (even though there are smaller sets that support 1080p) so, theoreticly speaking, since HDMI is the best option for 1080p output, and a 52" tv is the the best option for 1080p quality, then HDMI wouldnt be as useful on a smaller set.

I have my PS3 hooked up to my 26inch HD CRT and playing in 540p or 1080i through both component and HDMI there i a large difference, HDMI is clearer sharper and just a generally better image quality than component.

That is because you have a crappy tv. A good tv will display both connections identically.

WHy you gotta break balls? ( yes the Tv is crappy) but i have also tried both on my 32inch Samsung LCD in both 1080i, 720p. and there is still a noticable difference. HDMI just is the better connection, anyone who has actually seen them compared will tell you that HDMI is the best.

I am ISF certified and can promise you that you are wrong. A 32" Sammy LCD is far from a reference display.  Google component vs HDMI picture quality and see what you get.   I have done more tests and calibrations than  I can remember. 

[QUOTE="jigglebilly1983"][QUOTE="BroweChisox"][QUOTE="jigglebilly1983"][QUOTE="BroweChisox"][QUOTE="jigglebilly1983"]

[QUOTE="jechtshot78"]Depdnds on your screen size to be honest. I notice a differance in Componant to VGA, but no differance in VGA to HDMI On my 42".BroweChisox

HDMI isnt really nescesary on any tv under 52" becasue 1080p doesnt really shine on a set that is smaller than that.

What are you babbling about? 1080p can be sent on HDMI and component. 1080p is useful if you sit at THX recommended distances REGARDLESS of the screen size. There are way too many people who don't have a clue about home theater posting in these types of threads. There are about 5 people in this entire forum that should be allowed to post .. guess what, you are not one of them... so stop spreading nonsense.

Ive seen 1080p on my 52" and 1080p on my friends 42". 1080p on the 42 looked no better than 720p. he lives upstairs from me, so we just went back and forth and look at the same game in the same spot. ive witnessed it. its real. deal and move on.

Well I can promise you that i have more expertise in the area. What make and model are both tvs?

Mine is a 52" Sharp Aquos, his is a 40 or 42" sony bravia. both are LCD

Alright, are you sitting near THX recommended distances? 

Thats what like between 6-8 feet right? if so then yes. also, i thought THX was just a sound thing?

...is there a big difference in visuals?jsnepo

a digital signal compared to an analog signal lawl 

[QUOTE="BroweChisox"][QUOTE="jigglebilly1983"][QUOTE="BroweChisox"][QUOTE="jigglebilly1983"][QUOTE="BroweChisox"][QUOTE="jigglebilly1983"]

[QUOTE="jechtshot78"]Depdnds on your screen size to be honest. I notice a differance in Componant to VGA, but no differance in VGA to HDMI On my 42".jigglebilly1983

HDMI isnt really nescesary on any tv under 52" becasue 1080p doesnt really shine on a set that is smaller than that.

What are you babbling about? 1080p can be sent on HDMI and component. 1080p is useful if you sit at THX recommended distances REGARDLESS of the screen size. There are way too many people who don't have a clue about home theater posting in these types of threads. There are about 5 people in this entire forum that should be allowed to post .. guess what, you are not one of them... so stop spreading nonsense.

Ive seen 1080p on my 52" and 1080p on my friends 42". 1080p on the 42 looked no better than 720p. he lives upstairs from me, so we just went back and forth and look at the same game in the same spot. ive witnessed it. its real. deal and move on.

Well I can promise you that i have more expertise in the area. What make and model are both tvs?

Mine is a 52" Sharp Aquos, his is a 40 or 42" sony bravia. both are LCD

Alright, are you sitting near THX recommended distances?

Thats what like between 6-8 feet right? if so then yes. also, i thought THX was just a sound thing?

6.8 for 52" and 5.2 for 40" 

[QUOTE="jigglebilly1983"][QUOTE="BroweChisox"][QUOTE="jigglebilly1983"][QUOTE="BroweChisox"][QUOTE="jigglebilly1983"][QUOTE="BroweChisox"][QUOTE="jigglebilly1983"]

[QUOTE="jechtshot78"]Depdnds on your screen size to be honest. I notice a differance in Componant to VGA, but no differance in VGA to HDMI On my 42".BroweChisox

HDMI isnt really nescesary on any tv under 52" becasue 1080p doesnt really shine on a set that is smaller than that.

What are you babbling about? 1080p can be sent on HDMI and component. 1080p is useful if you sit at THX recommended distances REGARDLESS of the screen size. There are way too many people who don't have a clue about home theater posting in these types of threads. There are about 5 people in this entire forum that should be allowed to post .. guess what, you are not one of them... so stop spreading nonsense.

Ive seen 1080p on my 52" and 1080p on my friends 42". 1080p on the 42 looked no better than 720p. he lives upstairs from me, so we just went back and forth and look at the same game in the same spot. ive witnessed it. its real. deal and move on.

Well I can promise you that i have more expertise in the area. What make and model are both tvs?

Mine is a 52" Sharp Aquos, his is a 40 or 42" sony bravia. both are LCD

Alright, are you sitting near THX recommended distances?

Thats what like between 6-8 feet right? if so then yes. also, i thought THX was just a sound thing?

6.8 for 52" and 5.2 for 40" 

yep, that sounds about right.

[QUOTE="BroweChisox"][QUOTE="jigglebilly1983"][QUOTE="BroweChisox"][QUOTE="jigglebilly1983"][QUOTE="BroweChisox"][QUOTE="jigglebilly1983"][QUOTE="BroweChisox"][QUOTE="jigglebilly1983"]

[QUOTE="jechtshot78"]Depdnds on your screen size to be honest. I notice a differance in Componant to VGA, but no differance in VGA to HDMI On my 42".jigglebilly1983

HDMI isnt really nescesary on any tv under 52" becasue 1080p doesnt really shine on a set that is smaller than that.

What are you babbling about? 1080p can be sent on HDMI and component. 1080p is useful if you sit at THX recommended distances REGARDLESS of the screen size. There are way too many people who don't have a clue about home theater posting in these types of threads. There are about 5 people in this entire forum that should be allowed to post .. guess what, you are not one of them... so stop spreading nonsense.

Ive seen 1080p on my 52" and 1080p on my friends 42". 1080p on the 42 looked no better than 720p. he lives upstairs from me, so we just went back and forth and look at the same game in the same spot. ive witnessed it. its real. deal and move on.

Well I can promise you that i have more expertise in the area. What make and model are both tvs?

Mine is a 52" Sharp Aquos, his is a 40 or 42" sony bravia. both are LCD

Alright, are you sitting near THX recommended distances?

Thats what like between 6-8 feet right? if so then yes. also, i thought THX was just a sound thing?

6.8 for 52" and 5.2 for 40"

yep, that sounds about right.

Then your problem is the material.  I can easily see the difference sitting at those types of distances. 

[QUOTE="jsnepo"]

[QUOTE="ArmoJan"]just make sure your CRT you are going to buy at least goes up to 1080i.BroweChisox

Yes it does. I'm fully aware of some games that don'e get upscaled. Anyway, the CRT HDTV supports 720p and 1080i anyway.

Make and model ? There is really only one CRT on earth worth buying, and it is the best picture at the size money can buy.

Here it is. Sorry, my browser is having problems linking. Anyway, it is in Philippine peso so don't be surprised with the price.

http://www.sony.com.ph/wega/detail.asp?product_id=1511&cat_id=3&subcat_id=9&subcat2_id=3 

[QUOTE="BroweChisox"][QUOTE="jsnepo"]

[QUOTE="ArmoJan"]just make sure your CRT you are going to buy at least goes up to 1080i.jsnepo

Yes it does. I'm fully aware of some games that don'e get upscaled. Anyway, the CRT HDTV supports 720p and 1080i anyway.

Make and model ? There is really only one CRT on earth worth buying, and it is the best picture at the size money can buy.

Here it is. Sorry, my browser is having problems linking. Anyway, it is in Philippine peso so don't be surprised with the price.

http://www.sony.com.ph/wega/detail.asp?product_id=1511&cat_id=3&subcat_id=9&subcat2_id=3

Sony makes the best CRTs, but that set is 4:3.  You will have letter boxes for any HD content. 

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[QUOTE="ArmoJan"]just make sure your CRT you are going to buy at least goes up to 1080i.BroweChisox

Yes it does. I'm fully aware of some games that don'e get upscaled. Anyway, the CRT HDTV supports 720p and 1080i anyway.

Make and model ? There is really only one CRT on earth worth buying, and it is the best picture at the size money can buy.

Here it is. Sorry, my browser is having problems linking. Anyway, it is in Philippine peso so don't be surprised with the price.

http://www.sony.com.ph/wega/detail.asp?product_id=1511&cat_id=3&subcat_id=9&subcat2_id=3

Sony makes the best CRTs, but that set is 4:3. You will have letter boxes for any HD content.

Oh. You mean to say even 720p is in widescreen? I didn't know that. Thanks!

How about this one? Its for the same price but its not a CRT.

http://www.sony.com.ph/wega/detail.asp?product_id=908&cat_id=3&subcat_id=29&subcat2_id=114

Sorry again for not linking. 

The only difference I noticed besides being a tad sharper was that the picture was brighter.Felorn

And that's for HDMI right? 

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[QUOTE="jechtshot78"]Depdnds on your screen size to be honest. I notice a differance in Componant to VGA, but no differance in VGA to HDMI On my 42".BroweChisox

HDMI isnt really nescesary on any tv under 52" becasue 1080p doesnt really shine on a set that is smaller than that.

huh?

My A/V Junkie roomate tells me that you dont really notice the difference between 720p and 1080p (which is quite distinct once you see it) on tv's smaller than 52", and that if you have anything smaller 1080i or 720p is perfectly fine (even though there are smaller sets that support 1080p) so, theoreticly speaking, since HDMI is the best option for 1080p output, and a 52" tv is the the best option for 1080p quality, then HDMI wouldnt be as useful on a smaller set.

I have my PS3 hooked up to my 26inch HD CRT and playing in 540p or 1080i through both component and HDMI there i a large difference, HDMI is clearer sharper and just a generally better image quality than component.

That is because you have a crappy tv. A good tv will display both connections identically.

WHy you gotta break balls? ( yes the Tv is crappy) but i have also tried both on my 32inch Samsung LCD in both 1080i, 720p. and there is still a noticable difference. HDMI just is the better connection, anyone who has actually seen them compared will tell you that HDMI is the best.

I am ISF certified and can promise you that you are wrong. A 32" Sammy LCD is far from a reference display.  Google component vs HDMI picture quality and see what you get.   I have done more tests and calibrations than  I can remember. 

OK dude, you can't tell me what i've seen with my own eyes, and you have no proof that your an ISF certified.. whatever, so why should i believe you over my what i've actually seen.   And the original TC was asking about CRT HD HDMI vs. COmponent so get over yourself, i provided a valid point, and thats that on a crappy HD CRT HDMI will look better than component. FACE!