Bioshock's story vs Metal Gear Solid's story

Haven't seen any comparisons of these. Bottom line is that I have to choose one. I was leaning towards Bioshock because Bioshock II is about to come out. BUT Bioshock kind of seems too easy and plays too much like Oblvion. However, I like the horror theme, and the water envrionments. Played through Demo--liked it for what it was.

Metal Gear Solid seems amazing. I just read an article about it in Business Week. BUT, the fact that I have never played any of the previous games before kind of makes me afraid of being too confused. Snake sounds like Beavis in "Beavis and Butthead." And he is soooo old. I like the anti-war message to it all and hope the cutscenses are worth it. ( I was watching in-game cutscene on youtube and it seemed kind of lame. A little girl kept offering Snake coffee and he kept refusing-- it was a really lame joke, and some other lewd lame humor (too Japanese for me). Did anyone else fear that the acting would be kind of corny, but then once they got it were proven wrong?

Which aspects of the stories are you comparing,exactly? And from your thoughts on theMetal Gear Solid 4 story, you don't know the half of it.

Which aspects of the stories are you comparing,exactly?angusclone2

[QUOTE="angusclone2"]Which aspects of the stories are you comparing,exactly?Snakeeyes8855

[QUOTE="angusclone2"]Which aspects of the stories are you comparing,exactly?Snakeeyes8855

I'm still playing MGS4, but I think Bioshock's story is better. The setting and atmosphere are great, plus a superb plot twist which you don't expect.

mgs4 has better story and everything, but bioshock still shine from it philosofical aspect and immersive story telling .But mgs has come long way and develop to the best franchise of all time and also the best ever crafted up to now

Haven't seen any comparisons of these. Bottom line is that I have to choose one. I was leaning towards Bioshock because Bioshock II is about to come out. BUT Bioshock kind of seems too easy and plays too much like Oblvion. However, I like the horror theme, and the water envrionments. Played through Demo--liked it for what it was.

Metal Gear Solid seems amazing. I just read an article about it in Business Week. BUT, the fact that I have never played any of the previous games before kind of makes me afraid of being too confused. Snake sounds like Beavis in "Beavis and Butthead." And he is soooo old. I like the anti-war message to it all and hope the cutscenses are worth it. ( I was watching in-game cutscene on youtube and it seemed kind of lame. A little girl kept offering Snake coffee and he kept refusing-- it was a really lame joke, and some other lewd lame humor (too Japanese for me). Did anyone else fear that the acting would be kind of corny, but then once they got it were proven wrong?

Snakeeyes8855

MGS4 no contest. The ending of Bioshock is horrible and very anti climatic. MGS4 is a thrill ride and no you won't be confused lol. They did a great job at pleasing fans of the series and newcomers to the series.

Bioshock isn't even worthy of being compared to MGS4 in my opinion.

I didnt play bioshock for the story. I played it for the unique underwater horror setting. The story was decent at best. It was the whole "would you kindly "twist" crap that made me despise the game's story. Oh and the ending was anti-climatic. very meh. mgs' story as a whole is amazing. Tons of hidden messages like anti war, anti nuke, from a Japanese point of view. Very creative. ReaperV7

Haven't seen any comparisons of these. Bottom line is that I have to choose one. I was leaning towards Bioshock because Bioshock II is about to come out. BUT Bioshock kind of seems too easy and plays too much like Oblvion. However, I like the horror theme, and the water envrionments. Played through Demo--liked it for what it was.

Metal Gear Solid seems amazing. I just read an article about it in Business Week. BUT, the fact that I have never played any of the previous games before kind of makes me afraid of being too confused. Snake sounds like Beavis in "Beavis and Butthead." And he is soooo old. I like the anti-war message to it all and hope the cutscenses are worth it. ( I was watching in-game cutscene on youtube and it seemed kind of lame. A little girl kept offering Snake coffee and he kept refusing-- it was a really lame joke, and some other lewd lame humor (too Japanese for me). Did anyone else fear that the acting would be kind of corny, but then once they got it were proven wrong?

Snakeeyes8855

Do not buy Metal Gear Solid 4. You haven't played any of the previous game and I promise you're going to go through MGS4 thinking "I should've bought Bioshock..."

The MGS franchise isn't one where you can just read a synapse and start from wherever you want. There are little details and things that you have to experience first hand in order to get your money's worth, and that's important considering today's economy. The MGS games are a commitment, meaning, if you buy the first one, you have to play the last three if you really want a full experience, because that's why we buy video games, right?

I don't pay $59.99 for half of what I'm expecting - hell no.

So in short, if you aren't planning on buying the MGS Essential Collectionfirst, then don't bother with MGS4 and just pick up Bioshock.

Whatever you do, though, you can't be wrong because both games are stellar in their own rights.

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Haven't seen any comparisons of these. Bottom line is that I have to choose one. I was leaning towards Bioshock because Bioshock II is about to come out. BUT Bioshock kind of seems too easy and plays too much like Oblvion. However, I like the horror theme, and the water envrionments. Played through Demo--liked it for what it was.

Metal Gear Solid seems amazing. I just read an article about it in Business Week. BUT, the fact that I have never played any of the previous games before kind of makes me afraid of being too confused. Snake sounds like Beavis in "Beavis and Butthead." And he is soooo old. I like the anti-war message to it all and hope the cutscenses are worth it. ( I was watching in-game cutscene on youtube and it seemed kind of lame. A little girl kept offering Snake coffee and he kept refusing-- it was a really lame joke, and some other lewd lame humor (too Japanese for me). Did anyone else fear that the acting would be kind of corny, but then once they got it were proven wrong?

Do not buy Metal Gear Solid 4. You haven't played any of the previous game and I promise you're going to go through MGS4 thinking "I should've bought Bioshock..."

The MGS franchise isn't one where you can just read a synapse and start from wherever you want. There are little details and things that you have to experience first hand in order to get your money's worth, and that's important considering today's economy. The MGS games are a commitment, meaning, if you buy the first one, you have to play the last three if you really want a full experience, because that's why we buy video games, right?

I don't pay $59.99 for half of what I'm expecting - hell no.

So in short, if you aren't planning on buying the MGS Essential Collectionfirst, then don't bother with MGS4 and just pick up Bioshock.

Whatever you do, though, you can't be wrong because both games are stellar in their own rights.

I couldn't disagree more. MGS4 is one of the best games out there for any system ever. There is a lot of reasons to buy the game aside from the storyline. There is a free DLC that explains prior MGS series and it won't prevent you from enjoying the game by not having played any of the pevious ones. If you have played the ones before MGS4, then you will probably enjoy the game more. If you havn't played any of the others, playing MGS4 will probably want to make you play the entire series. MGS4 does a pretty good job with flashbacks to catch you up to speed, but you will get MORE out of the game by playing the others first. By no means should it discourage you from getting MGS4 especially since its so cheap to get now. Ninja_Zombie83

This is my point.

I don't agree with this, but it's really all subjective.

I think that in order to enjoy Metal Gear Solid 4 as a true sequel, you need to play the other games first, and if you don't, then you're just experiencing a stand alone game.

MGS4 is a more fullfiling experience in sequel form because you've already got the character development and familiarity that eventually provokes emotional responses from certain scenes and events that take place during the course of the game.

These responses aren't as strong if you've only known Snake for the length of one game, as opposed to four.

Bioshock has a good atmosphere. The story is not much of a story as it is a background picture slowly painted by (generally smartly written) audio tapes you find through the game, like in the recent Doom game. There are some interesting things in there, a good twist somewhere in the middle of the game, though the otherhalf goes downhill fast.There's no cinematography to speak of, no character interactions, the main character is mute, all you do is listen to the tapes which paint the background, preferably not while killing baddies if you want to actually understand what they say. The game is half decent, half boring, but ultimatellymore interesting than your average Resistance or Halo.

MGS4 is in an entirely different league in every possible aspect regarding thestory (and everything else).

I think too many people have been scared to compare these two games. When I played Bioshock, it reminded me of Disneyworld level creativity. What I read from Business Week ironically was that the Metal Gear Solid producer was greatly inspired by Disneyland-- as far as knockout 360 degree experience goes..Snakeeyes8855

Bioshock's story isn't spectacular. Don't get me wrong it was good but nothing compared to MGS (The entire series).

MGS4 has the better story by far....plus it's pretty fun online.

Bioshock's story had the best story of any game i have played.

I think Bioshock gets "IT" done with fewer words (shorter gameplay experience). I honestly think MGS4 may have better story, gameplay mechanics, and graphics, Bioshock is simply immerisive as well as a good "piece" to have in your gaming puzzle. Wheras MGS4 is like a whole dam.n puzzle in itself.

Comparing one game's story to a series which are considered by many as a masterpiece... Biuoshock has a very good storybut not enough to top the Metal Gear Solid series...

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I will tell everyone this. Awhile back I rented Metal Gear Solid 4 and thought it was fun gameplay wise. Although, once the story started up, I was lost from the first conversation. I never played any previous Metal Gear Solid games and was totally baffled as to why I was playing an old man. Needless to say, I made it to chapter 3 and gave up. I had to take it back to the store and never rented it since. I heard it's an insane story but I will in no way buy the others to understand it. Bioshock's story was just mind boggling from the start. Who gets lucky enough to survive a plane crash and in no coincidence right over an underwater city just miles beneath the surface? I know why but I will not spoil it for other gamers. I guess, can I go with both? I still have no idea what Metal Gear Solid's story was all about but the fight scenes were entertaining to say the least.mazdoriant

Another "Compare "X game" to Metal Gear Solid 4" thread? This never ends and its close to be a year! Shows how MGS4 and the entire franchise proves to be THAT good.

I just read a summary of the whole metal gear solid series (excluding Metal Gear Solid 4). That was completely nuts, just reading the plots was intense! One question is Solidus Snake defeated (killed) in Metal Gear Solid 2? Wow-- That plot is so involved.Snakeeyes8855

You believe in the Nephilim? I do. I just wondered what they looked like and how tall they were. mazdoriant

Bioshock is one of my favorite single player FPS games because it has nice story and atmospheric feel.

However, you simply can't in any way compare it to Metal Gear's 20 years of history, especially when you're taking into account the story.

Metal Gear is all about story: mature, gory, political - twisted so many times you have to replay the games few times to actually understand the scope Kojima implemented.

Story wise, I highly doubt there is any franchise that can stand toe to toe with Metal Gear.

Other then Final Fantasies which have their own with each titles (except FFX-2) there is hardly any game that reaches Snake and his journey.

That's how I feel about it at least and I had played pretty much every major franchise game in my sixteen years of gaming.

You really can't appreciate MGS until you get older and your mind starts to comprehend the ideology of series creator. ;)

They both have great stories but since you haven't played the other MGS games, I suggest you go with Bioshock.

my original plan of action for gaming was to get the following games: Tekken 6, Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2, Bioshock and Bioshock 2, and Heavy Rain If I got MGS, it would be. MGS the essential collection, MGS 4 Guns of the Patriots, and Tekken 6.(for the conclusion of my gaming for the end of the year)Which one of these choices would be most fun for you all as a gamer? (Oh yea, I have KZ2, and am loving it enough to forgo Call of Duty no matter how good it is).

Ilearn from my finance classes to "diversify." The MGS route would be going for one PS game and two PS2 games. Putting all my eggs in the Metal Gear series. I'd take my time through all of the games. It would be extremely casual and take the rest of the year probabably and then some.Wheras my original option is all ps3 games. My question: How important is that MGS series anyway. What does it mean to you? I would hate myslef if I played everya game I named:)?Thanks.

Thinking philosophically, would you rather "shop" for the supoosedly HUGE second half for ps3 titles, or (if you were ignorant of MGS) go back and relive the experience to which many say are synonomous with the Playsation. And the main reason to have a PS3?

First of all if somebody has Snake or a Big Daddy in their profile pic ignore their comments.

If you are looking for a story driven game, and you are well read... Bioshock. The game mixes German existentialism and American objectivism with action and horror in a completely unique way. I have never seen video-games as both intellectual and art in the same way that I saw Bioshock.

Both stories borrow from a lot of sources. The MGS series has great dynamic characters, excellent situations, and so many plot twists. It's heavy handed at times, but it's so excellent in form. MGS series hands down. Bioshock's story is pretty Ayn Rand-ish. The philisophical elements are cool, but that isn't the story really. The actual story telling is a pretty formulaic tale of betrayal. I love both games though.hillelslovak

I have heard this argument many times. Bioshock is Ayn Rand meets Nietzsche meets misinterpretations of both thinkers. It is too often passed off as just Ayn Rand, and I think that is a dangerous and (without sounding like a d-bag) ignorant approach. The focus on the objectivist commercialism is embraced while the story parts dedicatedto the "will" and "self-creation" (classic Nietzsche) seem to be ignored by fans and critics alike.