Bloody Pirates

I think all the reasons they list are bull except for "i live in X and here we can't get any legil games" these are not the people that i am disappointed in. People are just greedy and dishonest by nature. The technology allows for people to steal easily without any form of retribution. Some think that they are just stealing from SONY , what a joke. I also think alot of these people have never had to work for anything or sell anything to make a living. The youngsters expect to have everything in the world at there feet, at no cost and without giving anything back!

The richest 2 percent of adults in the world own more than half the world's wealth, according to a new study released by the Helsinki-based World Institute for Development Economics Research of the United Nations University

According to the report, the average American's wealth amounted to $144,000 in the year 2000, more than 100 times higher than the average Indian or Indonesian, whose assets totaled $1,100 and $1,400, respectively.

Only in the US would people that have expensive HOBIES! claim that its is too expensive and steal to continue with a HOBIE. Do you think the rest of the world steals from their brothers...and if they did what would happen. Thank god many still respect the idea that stealing in wrong

I have no problem with people downloading games if they are out side the US and do not have acess to the proper product

I have no problem with people downloading games if they are out side the US and do not have acess to the proper product

PA_DUTCH

So, what you are really saying, is that rules only apply where you deem them to? So if someone is in a poorer country than Canada or the US, rules should not apply to them, even ones that you are trying to make a stand for?

If you feel so passionately about pirating of console games, the PSP especially, you should care about ANY pirating not just where you deem it to apply.

Here is an idea for you, ... QFT.

WOW QFT? your an ass!

[QUOTE="PA_DUTCH"]

I have no problem with people downloading games if they are out side the US and do not have acess to the proper product

CDNGamers

So, what you are really saying, is that rules only apply where you deem them to? So if someone is in a poorer country than Canada or the US, rules should not apply to them, even ones that you are trying to make a stand for?

If you feel so passionately about pirating of console games, the PSP especially, you should care about ANY pirating not just where you deem it to apply.

Here is an idea for you, ... QFT.

Right so if someone lives in Fiji (just an example probably isn't true) and they can't get any psp games, they only got a PSP when they went on holiday to the US, they should just not play any games on it? I don't condone it or say it's fair or right but if they have literally no access to games I can see why they would do it. As for all the 16 year old nerds with their hacks they should actually be hunted by the Sony police and be arressted.

[QUOTE="CDNGamers"][QUOTE="PA_DUTCH"]

I have no problem with people downloading games if they are out side the US and do not have acess to the proper product

bobbetybob

So, what you are really saying, is that rules only apply where you deem them to? So if someone is in a poorer country than Canada or the US, rules should not apply to them, even ones that you are trying to make a stand for?

If you feel so passionately about pirating of console games, the PSP especially, you should care about ANY pirating not just where you deem it to apply.

Here is an idea for you, ... QFT.

Right so if someone lives in Fiji (just an example probably isn't true) and they can't get any psp games, they only got a PSP when they went on holiday to the US, they should just not play any games on it? I don't condone it or say it's fair or right but if they have literally no access to games I can see why they would do it. As for all the 16 year old nerds with their hacks they should actually be hunted by the Sony police and be arressted.

thats the problem, THERES TO MANY!!!

[QUOTE="CDNGamers"][QUOTE="PA_DUTCH"]

I have no problem with people downloading games if they are out side the US and do not have acess to the proper product

bobbetybob

So, what you are really saying, is that rules only apply where you deem them to? So if someone is in a poorer country than Canada or the US, rules should not apply to them, even ones that you are trying to make a stand for?

If you feel so passionately about pirating of console games, the PSP especially, you should care about ANY pirating not just where you deem it to apply.

Here is an idea for you, ... QFT.

Right so if someone lives in Fiji (just an example probably isn't true) and they can't get any psp games, they only got a PSP when they went on holiday to the US, they should just not play any games on it? I don't condone it or say it's fair or right but if they have literally no access to games I can see why they would do it. As for all the 16 year old nerds with their hacks they should actually be hunted by the Sony police and be arressted.

I'm just trying to make the "anti-pirate" supporters hold true to some morals. If you are againts pirating, then you are against it, no loop holes. I'm not taking any side in this argument by the way, I am staying neutral.

So in response to your statememnt, anyone saying "No Piracy", would have to take a "buy your games off e-bay, or don't buy a PSP if you need to pirate to own one" stand point in the argument you put forward. A bad geographical position should not be an excuse/loop hole to drop your anti-pirating views.

It is not your/my problem if Sony does not supply to those countries, as **** as that may be. Meerly if you are going to bash Pirating, then you have to keep that stand point, no matter how you look at it.

dschuhrke

Thanks for the comments. As you know some of my opinion changed after a long back and forth (sorry for being a tread hog). I'm a realist and I came around to the idea of exceptions to illegal downloading. Wrong is wrong but there are degrees. I have much more sympathy to fellow gamers that are in positions that make it extremely hard to buy legal games (either no access or super inflation) and resort to downloading than i am to other fellow gamers in the US that chose to download because they feel that 40$ is too much to pay for a game or whatever but still download. I try and donate to purple heart when i can and i have worked on a book drive to aid childern in Belieze but i know i can do more and should and your right i don't think the main problem for 3rd world countries is lack or video games

I just read that piracy is on the rise for the PSP. This is very disheartening for me since I really want more developers to make quality games, yet every game stolen makes them lose money. Lets say 1000 people illegally download a 40$ game, that's $40,000 lost for developers and retailers. I'm just saying think about the effect piracy has on the industry.ThatManYouKnow

Is not realistic to say that they lose 40,000, because they do that cause they don't have the money to pay for it, maybe If you take it to 1/3 of that, you'll get a realistic figure

[QUOTE="CDNGamers"][QUOTE="PA_DUTCH"]

I have no problem with people downloading games if they are out side the US and do not have acess to the proper product

bobbetybob

So, what you are really saying, is that rules only apply where you deem them to? So if someone is in a poorer country than Canada or the US, rules should not apply to them, even ones that you are trying to make a stand for?

If you feel so passionately about pirating of console games, the PSP especially, you should care about ANY pirating not just where you deem it to apply.

Here is an idea for you, ... QFT.

Right so if someone lives in Fiji (just an example probably isn't true) and they can't get any psp games, they only got a PSP when they went on holiday to the US, they should just not play any games on it? I don't condone it or say it's fair or right but if they have literally no access to games I can see why they would do it. As for all the 16 year old nerds with their hacks they should actually be hunted by the Sony police and be arressted.

there is NO suitable argument for piracy. NONE. if you bought a PSP in the US and knew you wouldn't have access to games, you shouldn't have bought one in the first place.

[QUOTE="ThatManYouKnow"]I just read that piracy is on the rise for the PSP. This is very disheartening for me since I really want more developers to make quality games, yet every game stolen makes them lose money. Lets say 1000 people illegally download a 40$ game, that's $40,000 lost for developers and retailers. I'm just saying think about the effect piracy has on the industry.piranha_inc

Is not realistic to say that they lose 40,000, because they do that cause they don't have the money to pay for it, maybe If you take it to 1/3 of that, you'll get a realistic figure