Blu Ray won't make games longer!

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#1 catlin_czirr
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Because for some dumb reason Sony made the PS3 region free and that means every game needs to have like 10 different languages on them, look at heavenly Sword and Uncharted so after they put the game, and put all the audio in EVERY different language onto the disk there isn't a whole lot of room left, why did Sony do this!?
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#2 jtickner
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Resistance is like 11GB or something, There is plenty o' room left. Dunno about Uncharted and HS but how do you know how much room is left on them anyway
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#3 catlin_czirr
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Resistance is like 11GB or something, There is plenty o' room left. Dunno about Uncharted and HS but how do you know how much room is left on them anywayjtickner
Well how much room do you think uncompressed 7.1 audio in 10 different languages takes up? And I mean every line of spoken dialogue in the game!
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#4 lusitanogamer
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I think 25 and 50GB discs is more than enough to make games longer than HS or Uncharted, even with all languages in it. It's all up to the developers to make the games longer.
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#5 catlin_czirr
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I think 25 and 50GB discs is more than enough to make games longer than HS or Uncharted, even with all languages in it. It's all up to the developers to make the games longer.lusitanogamer
I REALLY hope so because if metal gear is short because of this I am gonna FLIP! And you know how much dialogue there is in a MGS game.
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#6 Nightflash28
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It doesn't make games longer, but it offers more spaces for content (more detailed textures, models, sound, etc).

Back in the day, a game that filled one diskette (I mean the square things... remember? :P) could easily give you enough gameplay for several hours, but it had to step aside and make space for CD-ROM as technology evolved and games got more ambitious... see what I'm getting at?

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#7 Tyrant-666
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Your complaining about region-free games??? :| wow.....that's a new one.
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#8 catlin_czirr
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Your complaining about region-free games??? :| wow.....that's a new one. Tyrant-666
Why would I care about playing a japanese game in the first place?
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#9 acidic_dude
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[QUOTE="lusitanogamer"]I think 25 and 50GB discs is more than enough to make games longer than HS or Uncharted, even with all languages in it. It's all up to the developers to make the games longer.catlin_czirr
I REALLY hope so because if metal gear is short because of this I am gonna FLIP! And you know how much dialogue there is in a MGS game.

Dude, MGS 4 is not gonna be short, plus does it matter how long it is, I would honestly get sick ofit if itwere any longer than 15 hours. Plus you will Have online multiplayer that sounds like it's gonna be pretty good.
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#10 RMANPOWER
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[QUOTE="Tyrant-666"]Your complaining about region-free games??? :| wow.....that's a new one. catlin_czirr
Why would I care about playing a japanese game in the first place?

Because they come out with the best stuff, if it wasn't for them...what would you be playing on?

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#11 DaddyLongCaddy
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[QUOTE="Tyrant-666"]Your complaining about region-free games??? :| wow.....that's a new one. catlin_czirr
Why would Icare about playing a japanese game in the first place?

There's your answer.

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#12 IppotheFighter
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i care about region free games.Their are tons of games that don't come out for the U.S..At least i have the option to play games from japan or the u.k. unlike the other console.
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#13 Macri
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Region Free does not mean all the versions of the Game have the same content. If you by a game in Region 1 it will only be in english and the occasional French and Spanish. It's not like Euro Regions. The games work on all PS3, but the content is different. This is just a stupid topic which makes no sense.
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#14 Tyrant-666
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[QUOTE="Tyrant-666"]Your complaining about region-free games??? :| wow.....that's a new one. catlin_czirr
Why would I care about playing a japanese game in the first place?

I never siad anything about playing a japanese game.........

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#15 catlin_czirr
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[QUOTE="catlin_czirr"][QUOTE="Tyrant-666"]Your complaining about region-free games??? :| wow.....that's a new one. Tyrant-666

Why would I care about playing a japanese game in the first place?

I never siad anything about playing a japanese game.........

Well then whats the point of region free? Being able to play games made in other countries such as japan.
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#16 Tyrant-666
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[QUOTE="Tyrant-666"]

[QUOTE="catlin_czirr"][QUOTE="Tyrant-666"]Your complaining about region-free games??? :| wow.....that's a new one. catlin_czirr

Why would I care about playing a japanese game in the first place?

I never siad anything about playing a japanese game.........

Well then whats the point of region free? Being able to play games made in other countries such as japan.

That is exactly the point. I just never mentioned it.

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#17 Sardaukar87
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I love PS3 because is region free and 25gb of space are really more than enough also with 10 different languages! 360's region free games are on 8gb and there is also a lot of space more!

come on!!!

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#18 newown
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High Definition Graphics you are playing , dude ! For a hall game ( Its need more GigaBytes )

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#19 tarunramesh
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dude have region free games benefits everyone, like in australia games are dam expensive, i can just buy a game from US or something, save my self some money and still get to play the game, now doesnt that sound good?
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#20 RMANPOWER
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[QUOTE="catlin_czirr"][QUOTE="Tyrant-666"]

[QUOTE="catlin_czirr"][QUOTE="Tyrant-666"]Your complaining about region-free games??? :| wow.....that's a new one. Tyrant-666

Why would I care about playing a japanese game in the first place?

I never siad anything about playing a japanese game.........

Well then whats the point of region free? Being able to play games made in other countries such as japan.

That is exactly the point. I just never mentioned it.

Don't worry aboutthis man, It's cool that it's region free. Get to play whatever we want too, I'm liking it because I wanted to buy this one *** game that will most likey never come out here to the states.

Region Free is the best, don't get mad cause you dislike this or don't have any foreign games to play. *not talking to you T-666*

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#21 Tyrant-666
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[QUOTE="Tyrant-666"][QUOTE="catlin_czirr"][QUOTE="Tyrant-666"]

[QUOTE="catlin_czirr"][QUOTE="Tyrant-666"]Your complaining about region-free games??? :| wow.....that's a new one. RMANPOWER

Why would I care about playing a japanese game in the first place?

I never siad anything about playing a japanese game.........

Well then whats the point of region free? Being able to play games made in other countries such as japan.

That is exactly the point. I just never mentioned it.

Don't worry aboutthis man, It's cool that it's region free. Get to play whatever we want too, I'm liking it because I wanted to buy this one *** game that will most likey never come out here to the states.

Region Free is the best, don't get mad cause you dislike this or don't have any foreign games to play. *not talking to you T-666*

Dude it was theother guywho said region free games are bad.

?

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#22 RMANPOWER
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[QUOTE="RMANPOWER"][QUOTE="Tyrant-666"][QUOTE="catlin_czirr"][QUOTE="Tyrant-666"]

[QUOTE="catlin_czirr"][QUOTE="Tyrant-666"]Your complaining about region-free games??? :| wow.....that's a new one. Tyrant-666

Why would I care about playing a japanese game in the first place?

I never siad anything about playing a japanese game.........

Well then whats the point of region free? Being able to play games made in other countries such as japan.

That is exactly the point. I just never mentioned it.

Don't worry aboutthis man, It's cool that it's region free. Get to play whatever we want too, I'm liking it because I wanted to buy this one *** game that will most likey never come out here to the states.

Region Free is the best, don't get mad cause you dislike this or don't have any foreign games to play. *not talking to you T-666*

Dude it was theother guywho said region free games are bad.

?

No, I understand that. I said at the end of my stuff, not talking to you. Which was ment for him, oh well. We all know that Region Free is the best thing, so end of story.

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#23 SizeMatterzz
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Because for some dumb reason Sony made the PS3 region free and that means every game needs to have like 10 different languages on them, look at heavenly Sword and Uncharted so after they put the game, and put all the audio in EVERY different language onto the disk there isn't a whole lot of room left, why did Sony do this!?catlin_czirr

smell a troll....

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#24 philip6k
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Region Free does not mean all the versions of the Game have the same content. If you by a game in Region 1 it will only be in english and the occasional French and Spanish. It's not like Euro Regions. The games work on all PS3, but the content is different. This is just a stupid topic which makes no sense.Macri

catlin_czirr did you even read this guys post, he clearly explains it and your still questioning the dumb question afterwards

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#25 moshakirby
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The ignorance of the OP is quite overwhelming, and thus agree that he is a troll.
- Just because americans don't gain benefit of region free games (bar JP only) doesn't mean the rest of the world doesn't

- If a game is going to be short it won't be due to a lack of space, funds, development time, and other, bigger issues

- If a game (magically) runs short on space, every language doesn't have to be loaded just because it's region free, a company can decide to just release a certain language in a certain country. Although not the same scenario, GT5 prologue is region free, but in Japanese only.

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#26 dragonleader33
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Ok lets see. MGS4 will be as long as the other ones. Take that for what you will. Blu Ray gives the makers the potential to make games longer, better looking, and sound great. That is all up to the producer. The stuff is there they just need to take advantage of it. Wait for FFvs anf ff13 and then come talk to me.
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#27 ginraisama
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complaining about having too much space on bluray is like getting money out of nothing and still complain that it wasn't enough money
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#28 shabab12
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huh, when i started up uncharted, it never asked me 2 select a language?
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#29 ginraisama
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huh, when i started up uncharted, it never asked me 2 select a language?shabab12

it assumes the language by the one you have for the system. for me when i started even the uncharted demo it was in portuguese with portuguese voiceovers

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#30 catlin_czirr
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[QUOTE="shabab12"]huh, when i started up uncharted, it never asked me 2 select a language?ginraisama

it assumes the language by the one you have for the system. for me when i started even the uncharted demo it was in portuguese with portuguese voiceovers

You guys are both wrong, go to the options in the retail game, and under audio you can change the voice to italian, spanish, japanese etc.
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#31 ginraisama
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[QUOTE="ginraisama"]

[QUOTE="shabab12"]huh, when i started up uncharted, it never asked me 2 select a language?catlin_czirr

it assumes the language by the one you have for the system. for me when i started even the uncharted demo it was in portuguese with portuguese voiceovers

You guys are both wrong, go to the options in the retail game, and under audio you can change the voice to italian, spanish, japanese etc.

yeah, i know the game brings more audio than the one we play with, but that's not the point. The Blu ray has so much space that they can put that all in and much more. That's good to limit production costs, instead of making specific versions of the game for every country, they can make only one version and distribute it everywhere. and don't forget, like other people said, there's no worldwide releases... so if i want to get a game from the US, Japan or whatever I go and get it.

all hail bluray :P

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#32 ajefferism
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[QUOTE="lusitanogamer"]I think 25 and 50GB discs is more than enough to make games longer than HS or Uncharted, even with all languages in it. It's all up to the developers to make the games longer.catlin_czirr
I REALLY hope so because if metal gear is short because of this I am gonna FLIP! And you know how much dialogue there is in a MGS game.

umm did you flip because of how short the other metal gear games were? i think i beat metal gear 3 in like 12 hours or so... they aint rpgs...

Besides audio takes up very little space compared to HD video, high res textures, etc... i would stop worrying if I were you. Besides, would you rather play games that come on 4-5 dvds like the 360? i didnt think so...

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[QUOTE="lusitanogamer"]I think 25 and 50GB discs is more than enough to make games longer than HS or Uncharted, even with all languages in it. It's all up to the developers to make the games longer.catlin_czirr
I REALLY hope so because if metal gear is short because of this I am gonna FLIP! And you know how much dialogue there is in a MGS game.

LOL!!

People now complain because they can import games!! How cool is that!

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#34 Master__Shake
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Because for some dumb reason Sony made the PS3 region free and that means every game needs to have like 10 different languages on them, look at heavenly Sword and Uncharted so after they put the game, and put all the audio in EVERY different language onto the disk there isn't a whole lot of room left, why did Sony do this!?catlin_czirr

Space has never been related to game length. Heavenly sword was short because it just was..

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#35 istylee
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[QUOTE="catlin_czirr"][QUOTE="Tyrant-666"]Your complaining about region-free games??? :| wow.....that's a new one. RMANPOWER

Why would I care about playing a japanese game in the first place?

Because they come out with the best stuff, if it wasn't for them...what would you be playing on?

he'll be playing on a 360 :roll:haha

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#36 ukillwegrill
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------------Breaking News-----------

Blu-Ray rendered useless by need for multiple languages..........Um OK?

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#37 tryfe_lyn
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This is just a stupid topic which makes no sense.Macri

Agreed...

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#38 el_rika
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Games don't need to be in more languages than one - English. Now if the developers want to appeal more to different regions, they can put any language they want on the disc, but it is not a requirement, and i'm pretty sure no sane developer would say: "Ok, we have a 20 hours game, but there's no more room for the 9 extra languages, so let's scrap the last 5 levels".
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#39 ryank285
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Isn't blu ray constantly updated? They are working on a 200GB disk. Who knows, one day, they might come out with a disk that can hold a terabyte. I wouldn't be too concerned about disk space...

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#40 KH-mixerX
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[QUOTE="Tyrant-666"]Your complaining about region-free games??? :| wow.....that's a new one. catlin_czirr
Why would I care about playing a japanese game in the first place?

Because they get games like KH2:FM+. I'm still pissed about not getting to play that game.

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#41 lamplan
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Oblivion has at least 80 hours of game play. I think your point is unresearched and wrong.

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#42 def_mode
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Blu Ray gives developers opportunity to make longer games. not the Blu Ray itself will make the games longer. its 2 completely different things.
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#43 thekodaman
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The only reason they removed region-locking was because Blu-Ray disks are very hard to copy illegally making it pointlessly frustrating for consumers to have their games region-locked. The 360 still uses DVD9 which are remarkably easy targets for piracy hence the region-locking.
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#44 thageneral3
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The length of the game is completely up to the developer

Who said Blu Ray was going to make games longer?

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#45 Nike_Air
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No sacrifices have to made regarding game development. Judging from your appearance in system wars and on this board ..... I have the feeling that you just are a troll.

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#46 patriotsr1
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You must not know, but BR discs go up to 100gb capacity. They've been using 25gb but can always go to the next level of 50gb if they want to.
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#47 ukillwegrill
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[QUOTE="catlin_czirr"][QUOTE="Tyrant-666"]Your complaining about region-free games??? :| wow.....that's a new one. KH-mixerX

Why would I care about playing a japanese game in the first place?

Because they get games like KH2:FM+. I'm still pissed about not getting to play that game.

Aha thats why u get someone smart to perform "magic" on the PS2 to urm......open its eyes to other parts of the world

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#48 Maverick128
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Um, all the games I've bought here in Greece have been in English with a printed sheet of Greek instructions so I'm not quite sure what the hell you're talking about.
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#49 Tvac897
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Gotta remember the international market is getting HUGE, the world is becoming flatter and these companies have to make sure they are catering to all markets in the most cost effective way. How do they do this? Make one version of the game that can be played virtually worldwide.
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#50 Gamefisher86
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wow......this has got to be the stupidest thread i have seen in a while... (well not counting the bologna in the ps3 thread :D that was hilariously stupid! ) people complain about having too much room or being region free?? now that is stupid.... :| what if they come out with a cool japanese or european ps3 game and it doesnt come out in US? at least i will know that i can import it and not have to worry about my ps3 not being able to play it... and Heavenly sword was short not becuz the lack of space... oh no... they wanted to make it more movie like and generally it was short... u dont see movies spanning longer than 3 hours.. anyway this thread is just silly made aby a silly troll with his silly trollish-ness..... yeah :| :P