Bluray is pissing me off

Day in and day out I am starting to get the impression that bluray is starting to fall behind the eight ball and lose this format war. I know they still have huge companies on their side like Disney etc but for how long? Now HD-DVD is going to surpassbluray in size. THey are making a 51GB disc. Also, we all know a couple weeks ago they lost a big company in Dreamworks and Paramount. Last but not least China has now chosen HD-DVD as their high def platform. This is really starting to upset me. Sony always waits around instead of finishing the competition off when they had the chance.

http://www.dvdtown.com/news/51gb-hd-dvd-approved-for-production/4731

http://www.dvdtown.com/news/china-chooses-hd-dvd/4732

blu-ray is still blowing hd-dvd out of the water, and blu ray is planning some new 200 gb disc or something from what ive heard, its all about punches and counter punchs in things like this.

Day in and day out I am starting to get the impression that bluray is starting to fall behind the eight ball and lose this format war. I know they still have huge companies on their side like Disney etc but for how long? Now HD-DVD is going to surpassbluray in size. THey are making a 51GB disc. Also, we all know a couple weeks ago they lost a big company in Dreamworks and Paramount. Last but not least China has now chosen HD-DVD as their high def platform. This is really starting to upset me. Sony always waits around instead of finishing the competition off when they had the chance.

http://www.dvdtown.com/news/51gb-hd-dvd-approved-for-production/4731

http://www.dvdtown.com/news/china-chooses-hd-dvd/4732

Richterbon23

Blu-Ray is not losing you know Blu-Ray are working on a 200GB disc right and they have all the major film companies behind them not to mention Blockbuster, and the PS3 don't worry about it the battle is already won.

I never understood that China thing, aren't they just making their own format that's compatible with HD-DVD? I mean, unless BDs are banned in China now, that doesn't really matter.

wow people NEED to understand two things!

1) It will be at LEAST another year before they even produce these with movies

2) It will take a MAJOR firmware update on all the players, 360 add-on will probably obselete since it already has problem player a good amount of disk.

And the China comment, come-on their communist.... who cares. Plus the piracy of HD-DVD is just ridculous. They will lose SO much money in the Asian market.

I never understood that China thing, aren't they just making their own format that's compatible with HD-DVD? I mean, unless BDs are banned in China now, that doesn't really matter.

BenderUnit22

Technically its called CH-dvd haha it just means that hd-dvd will be the number one pirated format in the world.

IDK but the war is far from over! but i think Blu-Ray will take it. Blu-Ray has a Big Weapon in its arsenal. and that my friends is Disney! thats a ace in the hole!

I haven't seen many movies that are avalible as Blue Ray CDs .GoPhins123

Um honestly they have more (well once all the paramount are taking off the shelves it will be even), plus if you look at the movies coming out this winter, well it will speak for itself!

[QUOTE="GoPhins123"]I haven't seen many movies that are avalible as Blue Ray CDs .Sora311

Um honestly they have more (well once all the paramount are taking off the shelves it will be even), plus if you look at the movies coming out this winter, well it will speak for itself!

One thing Blu-Ray did that was kind of stupid was the whole no porn thing! Yes i know the internet has changed our lives on how we get porn! but you know it would't hurt and it's kind of a dumb stance any ways!jackle2071

there is in japan, and debbie does dallas in America. But in my mind i don't want to see it in hd, a little too much details in my opinion. Honestly the stars aren't to hot with the idea, since imperfection will be more noticable. think about it. Plus it shows what class they have, in reality (yes i watch) it is garbage.

[QUOTE="Sora311"]

[QUOTE="GoPhins123"]I haven't seen many movies that are avalible as Blue Ray CDs .jackle2071

Um honestly they have more (well once all the paramount are taking off the shelves it will be even), plus if you look at the movies coming out this winter, well it will speak for itself!

It was announced once they are off the shelves they are gone for good, so if you want one of the title go out and grab em. Im not kidding it was a press release from the meanies.

[QUOTE="jackle2071"]One thing Blu-Ray did that was kind of stupid was the whole no porn thing! Yes i know the internet has changed our lives on how we get porn! but you know it would't hurt and it's kind of a dumb stance any ways!Sora311

there is in japan, and debbie does dallas in America. But in my mind i don't want to see it in hd, a little too much details in my opinion. Honestly the stars aren't to hot with the idea, since imperfection will be more noticable. think about it. Plus it shows what class they have, in reality (yes i watch) it is garbage.

[QUOTE="Sora311"]

[QUOTE="jackle2071"]One thing Blu-Ray did that was kind of stupid was the whole no porn thing! Yes i know the internet has changed our lives on how we get porn! but you know it would't hurt and it's kind of a dumb stance any ways!jackle2071

there is in japan, and debbie does dallas in America. But in my mind i don't want to see it in hd, a little too much details in my opinion. Honestly the stars aren't to hot with the idea, since imperfection will be more noticable. think about it. Plus it shows what class they have, in reality (yes i watch) it is garbage.

haha, that was hilarious

[QUOTE="jackle2071"][QUOTE="Sora311"]

[QUOTE="GoPhins123"]I haven't seen many movies that are avalible as Blue Ray CDs .Sora311

Um honestly they have more (well once all the paramount are taking off the shelves it will be even), plus if you look at the movies coming out this winter, well it will speak for itself!

It was announced once they are off the shelves they are gone for good, so if you want one of the title go out and grab em. Im not kidding it was a press release from the meanies.

i'll say it once and i'll say it again - both will lose this format war and will be hammered by terrabyte disc formats -- or one of the 2 will drop the price to around 200$ for a player and win the war.

either way this video gen sucks - the jump in quality is NOWHERE near what VHS - DVD was. for it to be crazy high quality you need the new terra discs and better compression -- then maybe consumers will bite.

I'm wondering how much of a deal the China thing will be. Considering that a lot of Chinese still use VCD, how many are actually going to adopt HD-DVD???CJL182

are you serious? i don't think it's as simple as 'adopting' a format when you're talking about a communist nation. things don't quite work that way there.

needless to say, the average person in china won't be clammering for an HDDVD/BluRay player anytime soon.

[QUOTE="CJL182"]I'm wondering how much of a deal the China thing will be. Considering that a lot of Chinese still use VCD, how many are actually going to adopt HD-DVD???3picuri3

are you serious? i don't think it's as simple as 'adopting' a format when you're talking about a communist nation. things don't quite work that way there.

needless to say, the average person in china won't be clammering for an HDDVD/BluRay player anytime soon.

I meant that the effect of this decision on the format war will most likely be negligible.

i'll say it once and i'll say it again - both will lose this format war and will be hammered by terrabyte disc formats -- or one of the 2 will drop the price to around 200$ for a player and win the war.

either way this video gen sucks - the jump in quality is NOWHERE near what VHS - DVD was. for it to be crazy high quality you need the new terra discs and better compression -- then maybe consumers will bite.

3picuri3

[QUOTE="3picuri3"]

i'll say it once and i'll say it again - both will lose this format war and will be hammered by terrabyte disc formats -- or one of the 2 will drop the price to around 200$ for a player and win the war.

either way this video gen sucks - the jump in quality is NOWHERE near what VHS - DVD was. for it to be crazy high quality you need the new terra discs and better compression -- then maybe consumers will bite.

jackle2071

the thing people don't unerstand is yes they announce the terrabite disc, but they won't be ready for mass production for at least 10 years, way to pricey. makes blu-ray look cheap. Just curious if you say the jump of quality is nowhere near, have you seen a blu-ray movie (casino royal, potc) to me the quality is way better than dvd. It freaking jumps off the screen (some movies are soft). Plus the uncompressed audio, and bitrates can't be touched by hd-dvd, which isn't argued anymore.

Day in and day out I am starting to get the impression that bluray is starting to fall behind the eight ball and lose this format war. I know they still have huge companies on their side like Disney etc but for how long? Now HD-DVD is going to surpassbluray in size. THey are making a 51GB disc. Also, we all know a couple weeks ago they lost a big company in Dreamworks and Paramount. Last but not least China has now chosen HD-DVD as their high def platform. This is really starting to upset me. Sony always waits around instead of finishing the competition off when they had the chance.

http://www.dvdtown.com/news/51gb-hd-dvd-approved-for-production/4731

http://www.dvdtown.com/news/china-chooses-hd-dvd/4732

Richterbon23

China hasn't chosen HD-DVD they chose CH-DVD. :P

[QUOTE="jackle2071"][QUOTE="3picuri3"]

i'll say it once and i'll say it again - both will lose this format war and will be hammered by terrabyte disc formats -- or one of the 2 will drop the price to around 200$ for a player and win the war.

either way this video gen sucks - the jump in quality is NOWHERE near what VHS - DVD was. for it to be crazy high quality you need the new terra discs and better compression -- then maybe consumers will bite.

Sora311

the thing people don't unerstand is yes they announce the terrabite disc, but they won't be ready for mass production for at least 10 years, way to pricey. makes blu-ray look cheap. Just curious if you say the jump of quality is nowhere near, have you seen a blu-ray movie (casino royal, potc) to me the quality is way better than dvd. It freaking jumps off the screen (some movies are soft). Plus the uncompressed audio, and bitrates can't be touched by hd-dvd, which isn't argued anymore.

Day in and day out I am starting to get the impression that bluray is starting to fall behind the eight ball and lose this format war. I know they still have huge companies on their side like Disney etc but for how long? Now HD-DVD is going to surpassbluray in size. THey are making a 51GB disc. Also, we all know a couple weeks ago they lost a big company in Dreamworks and Paramount. Last but not least China has now chosen HD-DVD as their high def platform. This is really starting to upset me. Sony always waits around instead of finishing the competition off when they had the chance.

http://www.dvdtown.com/news/51gb-hd-dvd-approved-for-production/4731

http://www.dvdtown.com/news/china-chooses-hd-dvd/4732

Richterbon23

Please shut up. Chinese people live in poverty, they cant afford an HD-DVD player and we still have Blockbuster

[QUOTE="Richterbon23"]

Day in and day out I am starting to get the impression that bluray is starting to fall behind the eight ball and lose this format war. I know they still have huge companies on their side like Disney etc but for how long? Now HD-DVD is going to surpassbluray in size. THey are making a 51GB disc. Also, we all know a couple weeks ago they lost a big company in Dreamworks and Paramount. Last but not least China has now chosen HD-DVD as their high def platform. This is really starting to upset me. Sony always waits around instead of finishing the competition off when they had the chance.

http://www.dvdtown.com/news/51gb-hd-dvd-approved-for-production/4731

http://www.dvdtown.com/news/china-chooses-hd-dvd/4732

blitzinger123

Please shut up. Chinese people live in poverty, they cant afford an HD-DVD player and we still have Blockbuster

[QUOTE="Sora311"][QUOTE="jackle2071"][QUOTE="3picuri3"]

i'll say it once and i'll say it again - both will lose this format war and will be hammered by terrabyte disc formats -- or one of the 2 will drop the price to around 200$ for a player and win the war.

either way this video gen sucks - the jump in quality is NOWHERE near what VHS - DVD was. for it to be crazy high quality you need the new terra discs and better compression -- then maybe consumers will bite.

jackle2071

the thing people don't unerstand is yes they announce the terrabite disc, but they won't be ready for mass production for at least 10 years, way to pricey. makes blu-ray look cheap. Just curious if you say the jump of quality is nowhere near, have you seen a blu-ray movie (casino royal, potc) to me the quality is way better than dvd. It freaking jumps off the screen (some movies are soft). Plus the uncompressed audio, and bitrates can't be touched by hd-dvd, which isn't argued anymore.

Oh yea, got a lcd 52 1080p running through hdmi. Makes dvd look like crap even upscaled.

Please shut up. Chinese people live in poverty, they cant afford an HD-DVD player and we still have Blockbuster

blitzinger123

I think your the one that needs to think before they type. china achieved the biggest human rights achievement in the world. 400 Million ppl out of poverty. Not to mention that they are now one of the worlds biggest superpowers. You know they are outbidding you for that oil huh. And their army is growing at alarming rates.

As for the current discussion, both need to make a marketing push before its too late. Scaler technology is now getting the same visual quality from standard dvds. The only thing Blu-ray and HD-DVD will be good for is backup discs. Time is getting short.

[QUOTE="Sora311"][QUOTE="jackle2071"][QUOTE="3picuri3"]

i'll say it once and i'll say it again - both will lose this format war and will be hammered by terrabyte disc formats -- or one of the 2 will drop the price to around 200$ for a player and win the war.

either way this video gen sucks - the jump in quality is NOWHERE near what VHS - DVD was. for it to be crazy high quality you need the new terra discs and better compression -- then maybe consumers will bite.

jackle2071

the thing people don't unerstand is yes they announce the terrabite disc, but they won't be ready for mass production for at least 10 years, way to pricey. makes blu-ray look cheap. Just curious if you say the jump of quality is nowhere near, have you seen a blu-ray movie (casino royal, potc) to me the quality is way better than dvd. It freaking jumps off the screen (some movies are soft). Plus the uncompressed audio, and bitrates can't be touched by hd-dvd, which isn't argued anymore.

plasma is crap? sorry but you have no idea what you are talking about. LCD's are barely catching up with plasmas now, but still cannot produce the PQ of a good plasma. i wish i wouldnt of bought my lcd, and went for a plasma instead.

ok this thread is getting off topic!

China has had 3 past formats they have adpoted/created that have all failed miserably!

blu-ray has already won in the region of Japa and Australia, and very dominant in Europe, it really only the US needs to decide who is the winner

you will see blu-ray corp buying companies if they need to, Universal will probably go neutral in 2008

even the WB which is neutral sells more blu-rays then they hd-dvd

blu-ray players will be as cheap as hd-dvd soon

all blu-ray is in 1080p some hd-dvd have had issues with clarity and resolution

blu-ray is winning will continue to win and will take over in the enxt year or two!

[QUOTE="BenderUnit22"]

I never understood that China thing, aren't they just making their own format that's compatible with HD-DVD? I mean, unless BDs are banned in China now, that doesn't really matter.

Da_bomb101

Technically its called CH-dvd haha it just means that hd-dvd will be the number one pirated format in the world.

You took the words right out of my mouth. As far as I am concerned, Blu-ray is the least likely format to be pirated which is a good thing.

[QUOTE="jackle2071"][QUOTE="Sora311"][QUOTE="jackle2071"][QUOTE="3picuri3"]

i'll say it once and i'll say it again - both will lose this format war and will be hammered by terrabyte disc formats -- or one of the 2 will drop the price to around 200$ for a player and win the war.

either way this video gen sucks - the jump in quality is NOWHERE near what VHS - DVD was. for it to be crazy high quality you need the new terra discs and better compression -- then maybe consumers will bite.

bizzy420

the thing people don't unerstand is yes they announce the terrabite disc, but they won't be ready for mass production for at least 10 years, way to pricey. makes blu-ray look cheap. Just curious if you say the jump of quality is nowhere near, have you seen a blu-ray movie (casino royal, potc) to me the quality is way better than dvd. It freaking jumps off the screen (some movies are soft). Plus the uncompressed audio, and bitrates can't be touched by hd-dvd, which isn't argued anymore.

plasma is crap? sorry but you have no idea what you are talking about. LCD's are barely catching up with plasmas now, but still cannot produce the PQ of a good plasma. i wish i wouldnt of bought my lcd, and went for a plasma instead.