Blu-Ray Storage?????????

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#1 hazeman23
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Does anyone know if any currently released PS3 games hold more data than a Dvd-9??????
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#2 skektek
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RFOM and Motorstorm are ~15GB, twice the the capacity of DVD9 (~7.5GB).
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#3 feel_freetwo
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a dvd-9 hold 8.5 gb.
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Resistance for sure, which is about 15gb. Be assured, as games get bigger, longer, and have more content, the space that bluray provides is going to be praised by all.
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#5 skektek
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a dvd-9 hold 8.5 gb.feel_freetwo

No. A gigabyte is exactly 1,073,741,824 bytes. The *advertised* storage capacity of a medium such as DVD (or HDDs) is simplified by rounding a gigabyte down to 1,000,000,000 bytes. E.g. the *advertised* capacity is 8.5GB but the *actual* binary capacity of DVD9 is only 7.9GB.

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#6 feel_freetwo
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[QUOTE="feel_freetwo"]a dvd-9 hold 8.5 gb.skektek

No. A gigabyte is exactly 1,073,741,824 bytes. The *advertised* storage capacity of a medium such as DVD (or HDDs) is simplified by rounding a gigabyte down to 1,000,000,000 bytes. E.g. the *advertised* capacity is 8.5GB but the *actual* binary capacity of DVD9 is only 7.9GB.

well rounding a number down to get the *advertised* capacity would mean that the advertised capacity is less then the actual capacity. i can hole 8.2 gbs on my dvd-9 discs and i have never really gone beyond that, so who knows how much it can hold.
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i think most of them would be due to uncompressed audio or anything like that

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[QUOTE="feel_freetwo"]a dvd-9 hold 8.5 gb.feel_freetwo

No. A gigabyte is exactly 1,073,741,824 bytes. The *advertised* storage capacity of a medium such as DVD (or HDDs) is simplified by rounding a gigabyte down to 1,000,000,000 bytes. E.g. the *advertised* capacity is 8.5GB but the *actual* binary capacity of DVD9 is only 7.9GB.

well rounding a number down to get the *advertised* capacity would mean that the advertised capacity is less then the actual capacity.

No, (well only slightly, about 4MB) the advertised capacity is 8.5GB with a GB being simplified as 1,000,000,000 bytes (8.5 x 1,000,000,000 = 8,500,000,000).

Actual storage capacity is 7.92GB with a GB being 1,073,741,824 bytes (7.92 x 1,073,741,824 = 8,504,035,246.08 )

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#9 black_awpN1
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Is compacity really that big of a deal?
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#10 mjarantilla
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Resistance for sure, which is about 15gb. Be assured, as games get bigger, longer, and have more content, the space that bluray provides is going to be praised by all.Spartan8907
Games will get bigger, but not necessarily longer or have more content. Remember, it takes time to create longer games and more content, and time = money. Unless developers suddenly become as wealthy as movie studios and can fund $100 million per game, you won't be seeing games getting much longer or more content-packed than what you've already seen.
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I know for a fact that Resistance is like 15GBs and in the future there will be games that will be HUGE. MGS4 will be on the double layer 50GB BR disk and FFXIII will probably be the same also I read somewhere that each level in Lair is like 4GB so if that were a 360 game you'd only have two levels  on a 8.5GB DVD.
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RFOM and Motorstorm are ~15GB, twice the the capacity of DVD9 (~7.5GB).skektek

Motorstorm is 15GB?  Link?

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[QUOTE="skektek"]RFOM and Motorstorm are ~15GB, twice the the capacity of DVD9 (~7.5GB).m3Boarder32

Motorstorm is 15GB? Link?

Motorstorm 14.36 GB

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A lot of the space on Resistance is just the audio stuff. They have so much space, they just used high quality audio.
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#15 feel_freetwo
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[QUOTE="feel_freetwo"][QUOTE="skektek"]

[QUOTE="feel_freetwo"]a dvd-9 hold 8.5 gb.skektek

No. A gigabyte is exactly 1,073,741,824 bytes. The *advertised* storage capacity of a medium such as DVD (or HDDs) is simplified by rounding a gigabyte down to 1,000,000,000 bytes. E.g. the *advertised* capacity is 8.5GB but the *actual* binary capacity of DVD9 is only 7.9GB.

well rounding a number down to get the *advertised* capacity would mean that the advertised capacity is less then the actual capacity.

No, (well only slightly, about 4MB) the advertised capacity is 8.5GB with a GB being simplified as 1,000,000,000 bytes (8.5 x 1,000,000,000 = 8,500,000,000).

Actual storage capacity is 7.92GB with a GB being 1,073,741,824 bytes (7.92 x 1,073,741,824 = 8,504,035,246.08 )

you can argue all you want, but i have more then 8 gb on a dvd 9 disc. nor do i understadn the mathes your putting froward, seems like a group of random numbers.
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A lot of the space on Resistance is just the audio stuff. They have so much space, they just used high quality audio.Mega_Mustaine
You talk like sound is nothing important.
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[QUOTE="skektek"][QUOTE="feel_freetwo"][QUOTE="skektek"]

[QUOTE="feel_freetwo"]a dvd-9 hold 8.5 gb.feel_freetwo

No. A gigabyte is exactly 1,073,741,824 bytes. The *advertised* storage capacity of a medium such as DVD (or HDDs) is simplified by rounding a gigabyte down to 1,000,000,000 bytes. E.g. the *advertised* capacity is 8.5GB but the *actual* binary capacity of DVD9 is only 7.9GB.

well rounding a number down to get the *advertised* capacity would mean that the advertised capacity is less then the actual capacity.

No, (well only slightly, about 4MB) the advertised capacity is 8.5GB with a GB being simplified as 1,000,000,000 bytes (8.5 x 1,000,000,000 = 8,500,000,000).

Actual storage capacity is 7.92GB with a GB being 1,073,741,824 bytes (7.92 x 1,073,741,824 = 8,504,035,246.08 )

you can argue all you want, but i have more then 8 gb on a dvd 9 disc. nor do i understadn the mathes your putting froward, seems like a group of random numbers.

 

Again, there are two ways to count the storage capacity. I don't know which method *you* are using. Also it is possible, via overburn, to write data beyond a medium's prescribed storage capacity, the danger with doing that is that the data is out of spec and there is no guarantee that the next drive will be able to read the data.

 

If you don't understand the math then maybe you shouldn't be participating in the conversation? 

 

 

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[QUOTE="Mega_Mustaine"]A lot of the space on Resistance is just the audio stuff. They have so much space, they just used high quality audio.darkfame
You talk like sound is nothing important.

Unless you have an awesome audio rig I doubt you would be able to tell the difference between compressed and uncompressed audio.
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[QUOTE="feel_freetwo"][QUOTE="skektek"][QUOTE="feel_freetwo"][QUOTE="skektek"]

[QUOTE="feel_freetwo"]a dvd-9 hold 8.5 gb.skektek

No. A gigabyte is exactly 1,073,741,824 bytes. The *advertised* storage capacity of a medium such as DVD (or HDDs) is simplified by rounding a gigabyte down to 1,000,000,000 bytes. E.g. the *advertised* capacity is 8.5GB but the *actual* binary capacity of DVD9 is only 7.9GB.

well rounding a number down to get the *advertised* capacity would mean that the advertised capacity is less then the actual capacity.

No, (well only slightly, about 4MB) the advertised capacity is 8.5GB with a GB being simplified as 1,000,000,000 bytes (8.5 x 1,000,000,000 = 8,500,000,000).

Actual storage capacity is 7.92GB with a GB being 1,073,741,824 bytes (7.92 x 1,073,741,824 = 8,504,035,246.08 )

you can argue all you want, but i have more then 8 gb on a dvd 9 disc. nor do i understadn the mathes your putting froward, seems like a group of random numbers.

Again, there are two ways to count the storage capacity. I don't know which method *you* are using. Also it is possible, via overburn, to write data beyond a medium's prescribed storage capacity, the danger with doing that is that the data is out of spec and there is no guarantee that the next drive will be able to read the data.

If you don't understand the math then maybe you shouldn't be participating in the conversation?

no no, i understand what your sayying now.
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[QUOTE="skektek"][QUOTE="feel_freetwo"][QUOTE="skektek"]

[QUOTE="feel_freetwo"]a dvd-9 hold 8.5 gb.feel_freetwo

No. A gigabyte is exactly 1,073,741,824 bytes. The *advertised* storage capacity of a medium such as DVD (or HDDs) is simplified by rounding a gigabyte down to 1,000,000,000 bytes. E.g. the *advertised* capacity is 8.5GB but the *actual* binary capacity of DVD9 is only 7.9GB.

well rounding a number down to get the *advertised* capacity would mean that the advertised capacity is less then the actual capacity.

No, (well only slightly, about 4MB) the advertised capacity is 8.5GB with a GB being simplified as 1,000,000,000 bytes (8.5 x 1,000,000,000 = 8,500,000,000).

Actual storage capacity is 7.92GB with a GB being 1,073,741,824 bytes (7.92 x 1,073,741,824 = 8,504,035,246.08 )

you can argue all you want, but i have more then 8 gb on a dvd 9 disc. nor do i understadn the mathes your putting froward, seems like a group of random numbers.

This is the way it's been since computers first came out, and this is the way it will always be. 1 meg is 1024kilobytes.. it's all divisible by 8.. not by 10 like you think. Regardless of what you think, your DVD9 disc is not holding more than what you think it is. It's technologically impossible. (and still have it readable)

 

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[QUOTE="feel_freetwo"]a dvd-9 hold 8.5 gb.skektek

No. A gigabyte is exactly 1,073,741,824 bytes. The *advertised* storage capacity of a medium such as DVD (or HDDs) is simplified by rounding a gigabyte down to 1,000,000,000 bytes. E.g. the *advertised* capacity is 8.5GB but the *actual* binary capacity of DVD9 is only 7.9GB.

lol.  I'm guessing you are a high school science drop out.

1 Gigabyte or 1GB = exactly 10^9 bytes.  Why because that is the SI definition of what giga means.  I'm off to work but if you really want to know the issues involved google 'gibi'.
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[QUOTE="skektek"]

[QUOTE="feel_freetwo"]a dvd-9 hold 8.5 gb.Telomar

No. A gigabyte is exactly 1,073,741,824 bytes. The *advertised* storage capacity of a medium such as DVD (or HDDs) is simplified by rounding a gigabyte down to 1,000,000,000 bytes. E.g. the *advertised* capacity is 8.5GB but the *actual* binary capacity of DVD9 is only 7.9GB.

lol.  I'm guessing you are a high school science drop out.

1 Gigabyte or 1GB = exactly 10^9 bytes.  Why because that is the SI definition of what giga means.  I'm off to work but if you really want to know the issues involved google 'gibi'.

before you open your mouth you should google stuff dumba$$ http://www.greenwaycommunications.com/html/convers.htm
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[QUOTE="skektek"]

[QUOTE="feel_freetwo"]a dvd-9 hold 8.5 gb.Telomar

No. A gigabyte is exactly 1,073,741,824 bytes. The *advertised* storage capacity of a medium such as DVD (or HDDs) is simplified by rounding a gigabyte down to 1,000,000,000 bytes. E.g. the *advertised* capacity is 8.5GB but the *actual* binary capacity of DVD9 is only 7.9GB.

lol.  I'm guessing you are a high school science drop out.

1 Gigabyte or 1GB = exactly 10^9 bytes.  Why because that is the SI definition of what giga means.  I'm off to work but if you really want to know the issues involved google 'gibi'.

You're wrong. Plain and simple. It's not by 9.. it's by 8.. always has been and always will be. 2,4,8,16,32,64,128,256,512,1024... all divisible by 8.. What the hell are they teaching in class now-a-days? dumb kids think they know everything because they are book taught by some flunky geek-squad drop out..
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Is compacity really that big of a deal?
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 yes its a huge deal espically if u want High def. high def sound and graphics takes up alot of room.  like how everyones talking about a gta 4 will be a huge map with all this stuff just because San Andreas was a huge map and it didtnt take up much room but what those people dont understand is SA wasnt in HD

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[QUOTE="Telomar"][QUOTE="skektek"]

[QUOTE="feel_freetwo"]a dvd-9 hold 8.5 gb.dstryr13

No. A gigabyte is exactly 1,073,741,824 bytes. The *advertised* storage capacity of a medium such as DVD (or HDDs) is simplified by rounding a gigabyte down to 1,000,000,000 bytes. E.g. the *advertised* capacity is 8.5GB but the *actual* binary capacity of DVD9 is only 7.9GB.

lol.  I'm guessing you are a high school science drop out.

1 Gigabyte or 1GB = exactly 10^9 bytes.  Why because that is the SI definition of what giga means.  I'm off to work but if you really want to know the issues involved google 'gibi'.

before you open your mouth you should google stuff dumba$$ http://www.greenwaycommunications.com/html/convers.htm

Haha, yup, Telomar sure showed you! ;) Bits consist of numbers to the 2nd power. For example, ram. 1gb of ram is equal to 1024 mb of ram which is 2^10. 2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2 = 1024.
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[QUOTE="Telomar"][QUOTE="skektek"]

[QUOTE="feel_freetwo"]a dvd-9 hold 8.5 gb.spliffchillum

No. A gigabyte is exactly 1,073,741,824 bytes. The *advertised* storage capacity of a medium such as DVD (or HDDs) is simplified by rounding a gigabyte down to 1,000,000,000 bytes. E.g. the *advertised* capacity is 8.5GB but the *actual* binary capacity of DVD9 is only 7.9GB.

lol.  I'm guessing you are a high school science drop out.

1 Gigabyte or 1GB = exactly 10^9 bytes.  Why because that is the SI definition of what giga means.  I'm off to work but if you really want to know the issues involved google 'gibi'.

You're wrong. Plain and simple. It's not by 9.. it's by 8.. always has been and always will be. 2,4,8,16,32,64,128,256,512,1024... all divisible by 8.. What the hell are they teaching in class now-a-days? dumb kids think they know everything because they are book taught by some flunky geek-squad drop out..

dont worry bro i got your back if they dont believe then they can go to that site i posted (2 up) and see for themselves
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[QUOTE="black_awpN1"]Is compacity really that big of a deal?
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 yes its a huge deal espically if u want High def. high def sound and graphics takes up alot of room.  like how everyones talking about a gta 4 will be a huge map with all this stuff just because San Andreas was a huge map and it didtnt take up much room but what those people dont understand is SA wasnt in HD

Exactly. Why do people think that a high definition movie requires a high definiton disc, but a game would not?
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[QUOTE="Jackal2222"]

[QUOTE="black_awpN1"]Is compacity really that big of a deal?
makingmusic476

yes its a huge deal espically if u want High def. high def sound and graphics takes up alot of room. like how everyones talking about a gta 4 will be a huge map with all this stuff just because San Andreas was a huge map and it didtnt take up much room but what those people dont understand is SA wasnt in HD

Exactly. Why do people think that a high definition movie requires a high definiton disc, but a game would not?

Technically an HD movie doesn't require an HD disc. Any of the HD movies on Xbox Live will fit on a standard DVD9.