Can MGS4 beat GTA4 & Halo 3 in every way?

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#1 NDegree
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In these days I am watching many MGS4 trailers and its game footage. So YES IT CAN because it's got great story which is 10 times better then GTA4 and Halo series, awesome game play, great graphic and great multiplayer as far as I saw. Now let's talk about MGS4 score honestly I don't care because I know that many game magazines and game websites don't want to break Halo 3 funs heart so they will give 9.5 or 9.6 or maybe less but they don't give 10 like they did with GTA4 because it's Multi-platform. I also believe that MGS4 sale most in Japan and Europe I don't know America. Finally I can't wait to play MGS4 I hope few gamers agree with me.

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I don't know I haven't played it yet.8)

MGO Beta was a lot of fun though.

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#3 Gai-Gen
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"I hope few gamers agree with me."

NDegree

your wish has come true

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I don't know I haven't played it yet.8)

MGO Beta was a lot of fun though.

Timmeus

Me either but I have played MGS Portable Ops multiplayer and that was awesome.

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[QUOTE="NDegree"]

"I hope few gamers agree with me."

Gai-Gen

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Lol at this.
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[QUOTE="NDegree"]

"I hope few gamers agree with me."

Gai-Gen

your wish has come true

O thank you Jesus I am so happy right now. Hahahaahaa:D but thanks anyway.

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MGS4 will do well on its own, there is no need to compare it to other games.

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not online wise.
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#9 Na_G4life
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MGS4 is a very different game than GTA4 and Halo 3. I know that for me, the MGS4 will probably be better than any game i've ever played or will ever play (possibly). But there are those who can say the same about GTA and Halo.
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First of all, why would you want to compare it?

I'm sorry, but there is no way it will come even close to the sales of either one; it just has nowhere near the mass appeal. I'm going to buy it, but I'm sorry; it won't be even close.

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MGS4 is a very different game than GTA4 and Halo 3. I know that for me, the MGS4 will probably be better than any game i've ever played or will ever play (possibly). But there are those who can say the same about GTA and Halo. Na_G4life

what he says

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it might be good, but beat gta in every way? come on!
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First of all, why would you want to compare it?

I'm sorry, but there is no way it will come even close to the sales of either one; it just has nowhere near the mass appeal. I'm going to buy it, but I'm sorry; it won't be even close.

ck02623

I disagree, due to the hype of this being the last MGS4 and it looking to be an epic game I think sales will come close. People who haven't ever played an MGS title are interested in this jsut because of the fact that the hardcore MGS fans are hyping it to be amazing and the fact that Kojima is great dev, plus its a PS3 exclusive title which helps on that hype wagon. I think MGS4 will be better than both of those games gameplay wise considering Halo 3 was more like Halo 2.5 imo (like wtf some new weapons and gadgets and we see the end of the story everything else was the same as previous halos...) MGS4 will definately surpass it maybe not in sales but it'll come close.

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In my opinion it will beat GTA and the others but who knows?
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The competetion isn't between MGS4 and GTAIV if you think about it. GTAIV isn't exclusive so it won't make any impact on the console war. We're talking Sony VS Microsoft here. So it's more like MGS4 vs Halo 3/Gears of War(1 & 2). I want MGS4 to destroy Halo 3 sales and that'd be enough. We all know MGS4 > Halo 3. But I want MGS4 to be the first Sony exclusive to surpass Halo 3's sales dramatically!
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[QUOTE="ck02623"]

First of all, why would you want to compare it?

I'm sorry, but there is no way it will come even close to the sales of either one; it just has nowhere near the mass appeal. I'm going to buy it, but I'm sorry; it won't be even close.

G-Legend

I disagree, due to the hype of this being the last MGS4 and it looking to be an epic game I think sales will come close. People who haven't ever played an MGS title are interested in this jsut because of the fact that the hardcore MGS fans are hyping it to be amazing and the fact that Kojima is great dev, plus its a PS3 exclusive title which helps on that hype wagon. I think MGS4 will be better than both of those games gameplay wise considering Halo 3 was more like Halo 2.5 imo (like wtf some new weapons and gadgets and we see the end of the story everything else was the same as previous halos...) MGS4 will definately surpass it maybe not in sales but it'll come close.

I respect that, but unfortunately you're wrong.

As for the hype, there's not even one tenth of the hype that GTA or Halo3 had; it's not even close. MGS is not a mass-market game, and on top of that there just aren't that many people (comparatively) who have PS3's. The reason Halo3 and GTA sold so many is because they both included the Xbox360 market; something that MGS doesn't have. I'm sure it will sell a lot of copies, but NOT EVEN CLOSE.

The hype surrounding both Halo3 and GTA4 put them on the top of the "Most Popular" list on Gamespot's home page for at least two weeks, GTA for even longer. How many days has MGS4 been at the top? Zero. Case closed.

BTW, you don't have/haven't played GTA4 have you?

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[QUOTE="G-Legend"][QUOTE="ck02623"]

First of all, why would you want to compare it?

I'm sorry, but there is no way it will come even close to the sales of either one; it just has nowhere near the mass appeal. I'm going to buy it, but I'm sorry; it won't be even close.

ck02623

I disagree, due to the hype of this being the last MGS4 and it looking to be an epic game I think sales will come close. People who haven't ever played an MGS title are interested in this jsut because of the fact that the hardcore MGS fans are hyping it to be amazing and the fact that Kojima is great dev, plus its a PS3 exclusive title which helps on that hype wagon. I think MGS4 will be better than both of those games gameplay wise considering Halo 3 was more like Halo 2.5 imo (like wtf some new weapons and gadgets and we see the end of the story everything else was the same as previous halos...) MGS4 will definately surpass it maybe not in sales but it'll come close.

I respect that, but unfortunately you're wrong.

As for the hype, there's not even one tenth of the hype that GTA or Halo3 had; it's not even close. MGS is not a mass-market game, and on top of that there just aren't that many people (comparatively) who have PS3's. The reason Halo3 and GTA sold so many is because they both included the Xbox360 market; something that MGS doesn't have. I'm sure it will sell a lot of copies, but NOT EVEN CLOSE.

BTW, you don't have/haven't played GTA4 have you?



I did play and finish GTAIV.

1- It doesn't deserve all the hype because it's nothing new to the GTA series. The cover system and the aiming system were stolen from Uncharted. It's the EXACY SAME COVER system and THE SAME AIMING system and RockStar didn't even bother to give Naughty Dog some credits.

2- It definitely do not deserve a 10 or even a 9.5. 8.7 - 9 MAX.

3- The graphics are glitchy. Too many bugs and the framerate drops at some points.

4- The storyline isn't even a story to begin with. It's more like killing people for the money.

5- 15 weapons only? NO customizations? are you kidding me?

6- No army, no tanks no nothing when you reach the 6th star. wtf?

7- The fist fight is dumb and the baseball bat is useless, and don't get me started with the knife.

8- The money is useless, not challanging.

9- The multiplayer is corrupted.(Seriously how did it pass the 9 I don't know.)

Read this: GTA4 10/10 reviews rigged by rockstar

The best thing in GTAIV is:

1) RPG

2) Strip Club

MGS4 > GTAIV in all of the aspects from graphics to gameplay to weapons to sound to music to story to characters etc...

Seriously can't compare MGS4 to GTAIV.

In terms of sales, MGS4 will outsell GTAIV on PS3 only. But overall, because it's a multiplatform GTAIV will outsell MGS4.

The battle here is between Halo 3 and MGS4. Snake and Masterchief.



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[QUOTE="ck02623"][QUOTE="G-Legend"][QUOTE="ck02623"]

First of all, why would you want to compare it?

I'm sorry, but there is no way it will come even close to the sales of either one; it just has nowhere near the mass appeal. I'm going to buy it, but I'm sorry; it won't be even close.

AgentH

I disagree, due to the hype of this being the last MGS4 and it looking to be an epic game I think sales will come close. People who haven't ever played an MGS title are interested in this jsut because of the fact that the hardcore MGS fans are hyping it to be amazing and the fact that Kojima is great dev, plus its a PS3 exclusive title which helps on that hype wagon. I think MGS4 will be better than both of those games gameplay wise considering Halo 3 was more like Halo 2.5 imo (like wtf some new weapons and gadgets and we see the end of the story everything else was the same as previous halos...) MGS4 will definately surpass it maybe not in sales but it'll come close.

I respect that, but unfortunately you're wrong.

As for the hype, there's not even one tenth of the hype that GTA or Halo3 had; it's not even close. MGS is not a mass-market game, and on top of that there just aren't that many people (comparatively) who have PS3's. The reason Halo3 and GTA sold so many is because they both included the Xbox360 market; something that MGS doesn't have. I'm sure it will sell a lot of copies, but NOT EVEN CLOSE.

BTW, you don't have/haven't played GTA4 have you?



I did play and finish GTAIV.

1- It doesn't deserve all the hype because it's nothing new to the GTA series. The cover system and the aiming system were stolen from Uncharted. It's the EXACY SAME COVER system and THE SAME AIMING system and RockStar didn't even bother to give Naughty Dog some credits.

2- It definitely do not deserve a 10 or even a 9.5. 8.7 - 9 MAX.

3- The graphics are glitchy. Too many bugs and the framerate drops at some points.

4- The storyline isn't even a story to begin with. It's more like killing people for the money.

5- 15 weapons only? NO customizations? are you kidding me?

6- No army, no tanks no nothing when you reach the 6th star. wtf?

7- The fist fight is dumb and the baseball bat is useless, and don't get started with the knife.

8- The money is useless, not challanging.

The best thing in GTAIV is:

1) RPG

2) Strip Club

MGS4 > GTAIV in all of the aspects from graphics to gameplay to weapons to sound to music to story to characters etc...

Seriously can't compare MGS4 to GTAIV.

In terms of sales, MGS4 will outsell GTAIV on PS3 only. But overall, because it's a multiplatform GTAIV will outsell MGS4.

The battle here is between Halo 3 and MGS4. Snake and Masterchief.



And you say all of this having played MGS4 then? Good, then your opinion certainly matters :-) Besides, your twisted review of GTA4 doesn't really matter, we're not talking about quality; we're talking about sales. BTW, you haven't played through GTA4; that is obviously not true. It's not cool to make up things to better your argument.

Anyway, I say yet again:

The hype surrounding both Halo3 and GTA4 put them on the top of the "Most Popular" list on Gamespot's home page for at least two weeks, GTA for even longer. How many days has MGS4 been at the top? Zero. Case closed.

And no, it will not beat GTA4 in sales on the PS3 either. If you remember, it was the PS3 version of GTA4 that was on the top of the most popular list, not the 360 version.

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[QUOTE="AgentH"][QUOTE="ck02623"][QUOTE="G-Legend"][QUOTE="ck02623"]

First of all, why would you want to compare it?

I'm sorry, but there is no way it will come even close to the sales of either one; it just has nowhere near the mass appeal. I'm going to buy it, but I'm sorry; it won't be even close.

ck02623

I disagree, due to the hype of this being the last MGS4 and it looking to be an epic game I think sales will come close. People who haven't ever played an MGS title are interested in this jsut because of the fact that the hardcore MGS fans are hyping it to be amazing and the fact that Kojima is great dev, plus its a PS3 exclusive title which helps on that hype wagon. I think MGS4 will be better than both of those games gameplay wise considering Halo 3 was more like Halo 2.5 imo (like wtf some new weapons and gadgets and we see the end of the story everything else was the same as previous halos...) MGS4 will definately surpass it maybe not in sales but it'll come close.

I respect that, but unfortunately you're wrong.

As for the hype, there's not even one tenth of the hype that GTA or Halo3 had; it's not even close. MGS is not a mass-market game, and on top of that there just aren't that many people (comparatively) who have PS3's. The reason Halo3 and GTA sold so many is because they both included the Xbox360 market; something that MGS doesn't have. I'm sure it will sell a lot of copies, but NOT EVEN CLOSE.

BTW, you don't have/haven't played GTA4 have you?



I did play and finish GTAIV.

1- It doesn't deserve all the hype because it's nothing new to the GTA series. The cover system and the aiming system were stolen from Uncharted. It's the EXACY SAME COVER system and THE SAME AIMING system and RockStar didn't even bother to give Naughty Dog some credits.

2- It definitely do not deserve a 10 or even a 9.5. 8.7 - 9 MAX.

3- The graphics are glitchy. Too many bugs and the framerate drops at some points.

4- The storyline isn't even a story to begin with. It's more like killing people for the money.

5- 15 weapons only? NO customizations? are you kidding me?

6- No army, no tanks no nothing when you reach the 6th star. wtf?

7- The fist fight is dumb and the baseball bat is useless, and don't get started with the knife.

8- The money is useless, not challanging.

The best thing in GTAIV is:

1) RPG

2) Strip Club

MGS4 > GTAIV in all of the aspects from graphics to gameplay to weapons to sound to music to story to characters etc...

Seriously can't compare MGS4 to GTAIV.

In terms of sales, MGS4 will outsell GTAIV on PS3 only. But overall, because it's a multiplatform GTAIV will outsell MGS4.

The battle here is between Halo 3 and MGS4. Snake and Masterchief.



And you say all of this having played MGS4 then? Good, then your opinion certainly matters :-) Besides, your twisted review of GTA4 doesn't really matter, we're not talking about quality; we're talking about sales. BTW, you haven't played through GTA4; that is obviously not true. It's not cool to make up things to better your argument.

Anyway, I say yet again:

The hype surrounding both Halo3 and GTA4 put them on the top of the "Most Popular" list on Gamespot's home page for at least two weeks, GTA for even longer. How many days has MGS4 been at the top? Zero. Case closed.

And no, it will not beat GTA4 in sales on the PS3 either. If you remember, it was the PS3 version of GTA4 that was on the top of the most popular list, not the 360 version.



1) I bought GTAIV and finished it.
2) "it was the PS3 version of GTA4 that was on the top of the most popular list, not the 360"

GTAIV 360 outsells PS3 version

According to Level Up, the Xbox 360 version of Grand Theft Auto IV has been outselling the PS3 at nearly a 2-1 ratio, with 64% of sales going to Microsoft's platform, and 36% going to Sony's.

"
The hype surrounding both Halo3 and GTA4 put them on the top of the "Most Popular" list on Gamespot's home page for at least two weeks, GTA for even longer. How many days has MGS4 been at the top? Zero. Case closed."

Zero? it's been on top for the past 3 days where have you been? and that chart won't make GTAIV look better than MGS4. I am so sorry.

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mgs4 will beat both of those games in single player no doubt, but both of those games have weak stories and halo has a terrible single player imo. as for online, mgo beta was much better than that crap for an online on gta4. i never really liked halo series, but the online was fun (minus the obvious prepubescent gamers online, which are practically the only people on now).
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MGS4 willl just be one of those games that are truly great, no matter the score, and it probably will not sell as well just do to the ignorance of the gaming world which we forget sometimes - doesn't use gs, ign, or anyother gaming info website, therefore the gaming world is mostly uninformed. i will not comment on whether or not it is better than other games seeing as how i have not played it yet, but just as we expected halo and gta to be great we can definately look forward to mgs4 being great.
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MGS4 willl just be one of those games that are truly great, no matter the score, and it probably will not sell as well just do to the ignorance of the gaming world which we forget sometimes - doesn't use gs, ign, or anyother gaming info website, therefore the gaming world is mostly uninformed. i will not comment on whether or not it is better than other games seeing as how i have not played it yet, but just as we expected halo and gta to be great we can definately look forward to mgs4 being great.ULTIMATEZWARRIO

But GTAIV wasn't great. IMO GTA2 was the best.

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[QUOTE="ULTIMATEZWARRIO"]MGS4 willl just be one of those games that are truly great, no matter the score, and it probably will not sell as well just do to the ignorance of the gaming world which we forget sometimes - doesn't use gs, ign, or anyother gaming info website, therefore the gaming world is mostly uninformed. i will not comment on whether or not it is better than other games seeing as how i have not played it yet, but just as we expected halo and gta to be great we can definately look forward to mgs4 being great.AgentH

But GTAIV wasn't great. IMO GTA2 was the best.

i'm all for opinons saying gta4 doesn't deserve a 10, but you can't change fact, GTA4 was great, and multiple games in a series can be great
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#24 ck02623
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[QUOTE="ck02623"][QUOTE="AgentH"][QUOTE="ck02623"][QUOTE="G-Legend"][QUOTE="ck02623"]

First of all, why would you want to compare it?

I'm sorry, but there is no way it will come even close to the sales of either one; it just has nowhere near the mass appeal. I'm going to buy it, but I'm sorry; it won't be even close.

AgentH

I disagree, due to the hype of this being the last MGS4 and it looking to be an epic game I think sales will come close. People who haven't ever played an MGS title are interested in this jsut because of the fact that the hardcore MGS fans are hyping it to be amazing and the fact that Kojima is great dev, plus its a PS3 exclusive title which helps on that hype wagon. I think MGS4 will be better than both of those games gameplay wise considering Halo 3 was more like Halo 2.5 imo (like wtf some new weapons and gadgets and we see the end of the story everything else was the same as previous halos...) MGS4 will definately surpass it maybe not in sales but it'll come close.

I respect that, but unfortunately you're wrong.

As for the hype, there's not even one tenth of the hype that GTA or Halo3 had; it's not even close. MGS is not a mass-market game, and on top of that there just aren't that many people (comparatively) who have PS3's. The reason Halo3 and GTA sold so many is because they both included the Xbox360 market; something that MGS doesn't have. I'm sure it will sell a lot of copies, but NOT EVEN CLOSE.

BTW, you don't have/haven't played GTA4 have you?



I did play and finish GTAIV.

1- It doesn't deserve all the hype because it's nothing new to the GTA series. The cover system and the aiming system were stolen from Uncharted. It's the EXACY SAME COVER system and THE SAME AIMING system and RockStar didn't even bother to give Naughty Dog some credits.

2- It definitely do not deserve a 10 or even a 9.5. 8.7 - 9 MAX.

3- The graphics are glitchy. Too many bugs and the framerate drops at some points.

4- The storyline isn't even a story to begin with. It's more like killing people for the money.

5- 15 weapons only? NO customizations? are you kidding me?

6- No army, no tanks no nothing when you reach the 6th star. wtf?

7- The fist fight is dumb and the baseball bat is useless, and don't get started with the knife.

8- The money is useless, not challanging.

The best thing in GTAIV is:

1) RPG

2) Strip Club

MGS4 > GTAIV in all of the aspects from graphics to gameplay to weapons to sound to music to story to characters etc...

Seriously can't compare MGS4 to GTAIV.

In terms of sales, MGS4 will outsell GTAIV on PS3 only. But overall, because it's a multiplatform GTAIV will outsell MGS4.

The battle here is between Halo 3 and MGS4. Snake and Masterchief.



And you say all of this having played MGS4 then? Good, then your opinion certainly matters :-) Besides, your twisted review of GTA4 doesn't really matter, we're not talking about quality; we're talking about sales. BTW, you haven't played through GTA4; that is obviously not true. It's not cool to make up things to better your argument.

Anyway, I say yet again:

The hype surrounding both Halo3 and GTA4 put them on the top of the "Most Popular" list on Gamespot's home page for at least two weeks, GTA for even longer. How many days has MGS4 been at the top? Zero. Case closed.

And no, it will not beat GTA4 in sales on the PS3 either. If you remember, it was the PS3 version of GTA4 that was on the top of the most popular list, not the 360 version.



1) I bought GTAIV and finished it.
2) "it was the PS3 version of GTA4 that was on the top of the most popular list, not the 360"

GTAIV 360 outsells PS3 version

According to Level Up, the Xbox 360 version of Grand Theft Auto IV has been outselling the PS3 at nearly a 2-1 ratio, with 64% of sales going to Microsoft's platform, and 36% going to Sony's.

"
The hype surrounding both Halo3 and GTA4 put them on the top of the "Most Popular" list on Gamespot's home page for at least two weeks, GTA for even longer. How many days has MGS4 been at the top? Zero. Case closed."

Zero? it's been on top for the past 3 days where have you been? and that chart won't make GTAIV look better than MGS4. I am so sorry.

GTA4 is at the top of the list right now, and has been since launch and beyond; I don't know where you're looking.

And of course the 360 version out sold the PS3 version, I'm just saying that even so, the PS3 version of GTA4 will outsell MGS4. We should keep this thread alive until then so you will see and reflect.

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BTW, it's the PS3 version at the top of the list.
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#26 king23_
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Not in every way. MGS4 won't have a sandbox styIe gameplay so GTA will definatley be better in that way.
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#27 AgentH
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[QUOTE="AgentH"][QUOTE="ck02623"][QUOTE="AgentH"][QUOTE="ck02623"][QUOTE="G-Legend"][QUOTE="ck02623"]

First of all, why would you want to compare it?

I'm sorry, but there is no way it will come even close to the sales of either one; it just has nowhere near the mass appeal. I'm going to buy it, but I'm sorry; it won't be even close.

ck02623

I disagree, due to the hype of this being the last MGS4 and it looking to be an epic game I think sales will come close. People who haven't ever played an MGS title are interested in this jsut because of the fact that the hardcore MGS fans are hyping it to be amazing and the fact that Kojima is great dev, plus its a PS3 exclusive title which helps on that hype wagon. I think MGS4 will be better than both of those games gameplay wise considering Halo 3 was more like Halo 2.5 imo (like wtf some new weapons and gadgets and we see the end of the story everything else was the same as previous halos...) MGS4 will definately surpass it maybe not in sales but it'll come close.

I respect that, but unfortunately you're wrong.

As for the hype, there's not even one tenth of the hype that GTA or Halo3 had; it's not even close. MGS is not a mass-market game, and on top of that there just aren't that many people (comparatively) who have PS3's. The reason Halo3 and GTA sold so many is because they both included the Xbox360 market; something that MGS doesn't have. I'm sure it will sell a lot of copies, but NOT EVEN CLOSE.

BTW, you don't have/haven't played GTA4 have you?



I did play and finish GTAIV.

1- It doesn't deserve all the hype because it's nothing new to the GTA series. The cover system and the aiming system were stolen from Uncharted. It's the EXACY SAME COVER system and THE SAME AIMING system and RockStar didn't even bother to give Naughty Dog some credits.

2- It definitely do not deserve a 10 or even a 9.5. 8.7 - 9 MAX.

3- The graphics are glitchy. Too many bugs and the framerate drops at some points.

4- The storyline isn't even a story to begin with. It's more like killing people for the money.

5- 15 weapons only? NO customizations? are you kidding me?

6- No army, no tanks no nothing when you reach the 6th star. wtf?

7- The fist fight is dumb and the baseball bat is useless, and don't get started with the knife.

8- The money is useless, not challanging.

The best thing in GTAIV is:

1) RPG

2) Strip Club

MGS4 > GTAIV in all of the aspects from graphics to gameplay to weapons to sound to music to story to characters etc...

Seriously can't compare MGS4 to GTAIV.

In terms of sales, MGS4 will outsell GTAIV on PS3 only. But overall, because it's a multiplatform GTAIV will outsell MGS4.

The battle here is between Halo 3 and MGS4. Snake and Masterchief.



And you say all of this having played MGS4 then? Good, then your opinion certainly matters :-) Besides, your twisted review of GTA4 doesn't really matter, we're not talking about quality; we're talking about sales. BTW, you haven't played through GTA4; that is obviously not true. It's not cool to make up things to better your argument.

Anyway, I say yet again:

The hype surrounding both Halo3 and GTA4 put them on the top of the "Most Popular" list on Gamespot's home page for at least two weeks, GTA for even longer. How many days has MGS4 been at the top? Zero. Case closed.

And no, it will not beat GTA4 in sales on the PS3 either. If you remember, it was the PS3 version of GTA4 that was on the top of the most popular list, not the 360 version.



1) I bought GTAIV and finished it.
2) "it was the PS3 version of GTA4 that was on the top of the most popular list, not the 360"

GTAIV 360 outsells PS3 version

According to Level Up, the Xbox 360 version of Grand Theft Auto IV has been outselling the PS3 at nearly a 2-1 ratio, with 64% of sales going to Microsoft's platform, and 36% going to Sony's.

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The hype surrounding both Halo3 and GTA4 put them on the top of the "Most Popular" list on Gamespot's home page for at least two weeks, GTA for even longer. How many days has MGS4 been at the top? Zero. Case closed."

Zero? it's been on top for the past 3 days where have you been? and that chart won't make GTAIV look better than MGS4. I am so sorry.

GTA4 is at the top of the list right now, and has been since launch and beyond; I don't know where you're looking.

And of course the 360 version out sold the PS3 version, I'm just saying that even so, the PS3 version of GTA4 will outsell MGS4. We should keep this thread alive until then so you will see and reflect.



Dude how do you base a game's success on a chart that changes every day. Little Big Planet was number 1, does it make it better than GTAIV, MGS4 ???? NO. Stop referring to the damn chart man.

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#28 ck02623
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Yes, it actually does; it reflects what people are interested in and thus what they buy. It's cool that you're admitting that you completely made up your statement about MGS being on top.

BTW, it doesn't change every day; GTA4 is consistently on top.

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#29 porkchopxp
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It's an apples-to-oranges-to-bananas comparison. All three are different genres and all three have a different type of rabid following. Kojimas' games always have great quality in the production dept(sound, graphics gamplay innovation) however, His deep and sometimes long-winded storylines are not for everyone and therefore will probably put MSG4 in the #3 spot in popularity. All 3 games will have quality and depth(GTA4 and Halo3 having already shown this). Fanboy camps aside, all 3 games are leading the way for next-gen franchising. I suspect that as total-packages go MGS4 will come in 3rd because of the specific audience it appeals to and the fact that Kojima Productions chose to seperate MGO from MGS4. Had the full MGO experience been packaged with MGS4 then I'd say it's a dead-heat . . . a win-win-win situation for all gamers involved.
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#30 bourne2live
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MGS series beats the heck out of GTA & Halo in terms graphics and especially STORY .
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#32 moshakirby18
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The competetion isn't between MGS4 and GTAIV if you think about it. GTAIV isn't exclusive so it won't make any impact on the console war. We're talking Sony VS Microsoft here. So it's more like MGS4 vs Halo 3/Gears of War(1 & 2). I want MGS4 to destroy Halo 3 sales and that'd be enough. We all know MGS4 > Halo 3. But I want MGS4 to be the first Sony exclusive to surpass Halo 3's sales dramatically! AgentH


That'll never happen you know.

Gear of war maybe, but Halo 3? That had a massive fanbase installed already installed, two sequels in a very short space of time, meaning a very high percentage of 360 gamers bought halo 3, not to mention there are a lot more 360s out there than PS3s.
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#33 AgentH
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[QUOTE="ck02623"]

Yes, it actually does; it reflects what people are interested in and thus what they buy. It's cool that you're admitting that you completely made up your statement about MGS being on top.

BTW, it doesn't change every day; GTA4 is consistently on top.

Miguel16

Wow are you dumb? Are you on this site, every day every minute? MGS4 WAS ON THE TOP FOR A FEW DAYS UP UNTIL FRIDAY OR SATURDAY!!!!! And it wasn't just the ps3 section it was the homepage. Now shutup and stop insinuating what you believe to be fact. YOU ARE WRONG!



Well he said I made that up.
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#34 dalscowboys22
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it will in every way be better, EXCEPT for the sales. sorry to say it but either way the instal base doesnt compare to both systems or just the 360's in general.
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#35 rogerjak
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MGS4 is better in everyway. I mean...It's freaking MGS4!!

We don't need sales figures to know that MGS4 > Halo in everyway possible and imaginable.

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#36 ParadiseAwaits
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The Meta Gear On-line BETA was an absolute disaster.

So it fails there....

Campaign wise? Nothing can rival metal gear campaign wise...

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#37 pippynip
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The MGS franchise has been, and probably will be better than both the Halo and GTA franchises. Me, I prefer an excellent story to go along with the excellent gameplay (Sonic on the megadrive being one of the only exceptions). Both Halo and GTA have great, almost epic gameplay, that cannot be disputed, however in my opinion MGS goes the extra mile in terms of nearly everything.

All of this boils down to individual opinions, and arguments/debates like these are relatively pointless.

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#39 YemeniXXVI
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First off, GTA IV does not deserve a 10, that's just my opinion, I love it and all, but it's not perfect. With that in mind, no matter how perfect MGS4 is, it will not get a 10, simply because, reviewers don't give out 10 after 10 in a matter of a month and a half. But MGS4 has used up Blu-ray capabilites and the cell, to make it a perfect game.
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#40 Magatsu23
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just play the games you like and shut up. all that people are saying here are their OPINIONS. if you like MGS4, good! if you prefer GTA4, then good for you! who cares? you might even prefer E.T. the Game for all i care, it won´t change my opinion, nor anyone else´s. so stop this pointless arguing.

MGS4 is great, GTA4 as well. Halo3 too. so there you have it. just play whatever you like.

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In these days I am watching many MGS4 trailers and its game footage. So YES IT CAN because it's got great story which is 10 times better then GTA4 and Halo series, awesome game play, great graphic and great multiplayer as far as I saw. Now let's talk about MGS4 score honestly I don't care because I know that many game magazines and game websites don't want to break Halo 3 funs heart so they will give 9.5 or 9.6 or maybe less but they don't give 10 like they did with GTA4 because it's Multi-platform. I also believe that MGS4 sale most in Japan and Europe I don't know America. Finally I can't wait to play MGS4 I hope few gamers agree with me.

NDegree

Well IMO i think MGS4 will be the better game compared with gta4/halo 3, in terms of gameplay and story they all look fantastic IMo and good graphics is just a bonus in gaming.

But to beat GTA4/halo 3 in every way would mean in sales figures also, which i very much doubt it can do, i wish it would i think the MGS series deserves halo numbers, but i doubt it will, it will need to sell around 5 million to compete and around 3 million in its first week.

Looking at sales of other top ps3 exclusives i dont think it will come very close, Im hoping it becomes the best selling ps3 exclusive and i think it can achieve that.

Also i have to say i thought MGO was very poor, and MGS4 multi-player cannot compare with that of halo 3 or gta4 and im not a big MP fan i still have not played 1 game online of either halo 3/GTA4 i will play some gta online but i prefer tactical shooters online, the reason i say it cannot compete as it does not have a full fleshed MP in the game its just a "demo" then you have to pay to unlock the full thing, which IMO is a disgrace, konami said MGO deserved a full release but IMO MGO does not compare with multiplayer in games like COD4 and that comes in the same package, after playing the beta i dont understand how it deserves a £40 price tag the same as games like rainbow six/cod4.

Im sure metal gear will be one of my fav next gen games and will be up there with games like cod4 and gears of war, hopefully it will get allot of tens as going off previous games/developer history/previews from people that have played the entire game(shane B from 1 up for example) its sounding like it deserves to be rated in the same league as GTA4/gears of war, halo 3 imo was scored a little too highly 8.5/ 9.0 at max would have been fairer.

Another thing is i normally buy every new system at launch i have always been a multi-console owner and an early adopter but the delay of ps3 in the uk, steep price £425($850) the removing of hardware and the fact they still kept the same price after that left a bad taste in my mouth so i would no buy it, but mainly because the lack of decent games at launch IMO, point being after i saw that first 15 min gameplay vid from july-august last year i went out and bought the ps3 on the same day, my ps3 has mainly been sitting waiting for this game, and im hyped to play it i really couldnt care less what scores it gets i just hope it sells the numbers it deserves.

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#44 MusashiSensi
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MGS4 will do well on its own, there is no need to compare it to other games.

Star650

Exactly! Threads like this are a waste of time. You guys stay comparing games that really have nothing to do with each other. THIS THREAD PROVING THIS THEORY.

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#45 Ahsan_Jadi_1
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[QUOTE="NDegree"]

In these days I am watching many MGS4 trailers and its game footage. So YES IT CAN because it's got great story which is 10 times better then GTA4 and Halo series, awesome game play, great graphic and great multiplayer as far as I saw. Now let's talk about MGS4 score honestly I don't care because I know that many game magazines and game websites don't want to break Halo 3 funs heart so they will give 9.5 or 9.6 or maybe less but they don't give 10 like they did with GTA4 because it's Multi-platform. I also believe that MGS4 sale most in Japan and Europe I don't know America. Finally I can't wait to play MGS4 I hope few gamers agree with me.

shadystxxx

Well IMO i think MGS4 will be the better game compared with gta4/halo 3, in terms of gameplay and story they all look fantastic IMo and good graphics is just a bonus in gaming.

But to beat GTA4/halo 3 in every way would mean in sales figures also, which i very much doubt it can do, i wish it would i think the MGS series deserves halo numbers, but i doubt it will, it will need to sell around 5 million to compete and around 3 million in its first week.

Looking at sales of other top ps3 exclusives i dont think it will come very close, Im hoping it becomes the best selling ps3 exclusive and i think it can achieve that.

Also i have to say i thought MGO was very poor, and MGS4 multi-player cannot compare with that of halo 3 or gta4 and im not a big MP fan i still have not played 1 game online of either halo 3/GTA4 i will play some gta online but i prefer tactical shooters online, the reason i say it cannot compete as it does not have a full fleshed MP in the game its just a "demo" then you have to pay to unlock the full thing, which IMO is a disgrace, konami said MGO deserved a full release but IMO MGO does not compare with multiplayer in games like COD4 and that comes in the same package, after playing the beta i dont understand how it deserves a £40 price tag the same as games like rainbow six/cod4.

Im sure metal gear will be one of my fav next gen games and will be up there with games like cod4 and gears of war, hopefully it will get allot of tens as going off previous games/developer history/previews from people that have played the entire game(shane B from 1 up for example) its sounding like it deserves to be rated in the same league as GTA4/gears of war, halo 3 imo was scored a little too highly 8.5/ 9.0 at max would have been fairer.

Another thing is i normally buy every new system at launch i have always been a multi-console owner and an early adopter but the delay of ps3 in the uk, steep price £425($850) the removing of hardware and the fact they still kept the same price after that left a bad taste in my mouth so i would no buy it, but mainly because the lack of decent games at launch IMO, point being after i saw that first 15 min gameplay vid from july-august last year i went out and bought the ps3 on the same day, my ps3 has mainly been sitting waiting for this game, and im hyped to play it i really couldnt care less what scores it gets i just hope it sells the numbers it deserves.

Please:roll: dude find a job in newspaper company.

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#46 nutDAVE3
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This is better suited for System Was because you're comparing games/systems.