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#1 eclipsed4utoo
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http://ps3.qj.net/Capcom-president-American-publishers-focus-on-money-not-making-great-games/pg/49/aid/87881 I saw this article over at QJ.net. Capcom's founder talks about how American publishers only focus on money and not creating great games, which is different from Japanese publishers because they favor the hardcore gamer. Does anybody see the irony here? If you don't, here it is. This is from the press release from Capcom about DMC4 going multiplatform.

Capcom is committed to making its titles available to as wide an audience as possible.

and then the biggest irony here...

Capcom will continue to produce titles that appeal to users while pursuing a multiplatform strategy to help enhance profits.

Makes me think about not buying any Capcom games.
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#2 plg2307
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Bah, they all say that but compagnies are there to make money, nothing else.
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#3 rogerjak
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I was never a fan of capcom so...meh. I also don't care for DMC4
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#5 risi37
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well i liked capcom before but now not but still ill buy games like RE5,DMC4 etc
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#6 Denji
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Well I'd still buy a Street Fighter game if one came out. But Capcom forgot about Street Fighter:twisted:
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#7 jackle2071
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i have always been a Capcom fan and i will buy there games. ResidentEvil 5!!!!
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#8 b11051973
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Who cares I'm buying RE5, DMC4, Lost Planet 2 or whatever. Unless a company kills my dog, I'm still going to buy their games.
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#9 Creeping_Wolf
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Hey, it's another "Let's all slam Capcom because they're doing something I don't like" threads........:roll:.  Haven't seen one of those in a while.
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[QUOTE="eclipsed4utoo"]http://ps3.qj.net/Capcom-president-American-publishers-focus-on-money-not-making-great-games/pg/49/aid/87881 I saw this article over at QJ.net. Capcom's founder talks about how American publishers only focus on money and not creating great games, which is different from Japanese publishers because they favor the hardcore gamer. Does anybody see the irony here? If you don't, here it is. This is from the press release from Capcom about DMC4 going multiplatform.

Capcom is committed to making its titles available to as wide an audience as possible.

and then the biggest irony here...

Capcom will continue to produce titles that appeal to users while pursuing a multiplatform strategy to help enhance profits.

Makes me think about not buying any Capcom games.

I think that's a self-contradicting statement. First of all, if your company focuses just on money and not making great games then you're not going to make a dime. What games were major sellers last year and what games will be major sellers? The great games. If you pursue making great games then you're going to make money and vice versa. Capcom is one of my favorite developers and if they're in it for the money then who cares? They are a corporation after all and a corporation's purpose is to...[drum roll]...make money!
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Hey, it's another "Let's all slam Capcom because they're doing something I don't like" threads........:roll:.  Haven't seen one of those in a while.Creeping_Wolf
lol. it's just funny that nobody said anything before. not until the whole DMC crysis...playstation fans revolting cracks me up. they didn't seem to mind getting RE4 from the gamecube. but take away one of their games and poop hits the fan.
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#13 Hulabaloza
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It's too simplistic to generalize gaming companies just by national boundaries.

With that said.....Japanese developers definitely have it rough this gen though.....BECAUSE of the 360 and PS3. The systems are both way too hard to make money on and neither got big enough fast enough. The 360 forces them to target the USA just to scrape by, and the PS3 hasn't proven that it will even survive. Alot of Japanese studios have gone away and that trend won't be stopping soon. Criticize the EA model all you want, but at least they are in business and look to remain there for a while.

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#15 dstryr13
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the only good game to come out of Capcom was Marvel vs. Capcom 2

everything else blows

oh except for the original RE

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[QUOTE="eclipsed4utoo"]http://ps3.qj.net/Capcom-president-American-publishers-focus-on-money-not-making-great-games/pg/49/aid/87881 I saw this article over at QJ.net. Capcom's founder talks about how American publishers only focus on money and not creating great games, which is different from Japanese publishers because they favor the hardcore gamer. Does anybody see the irony here? If you don't, here it is. This is from the press release from Capcom about DMC4 going multiplatform.

Capcom is committed to making its titles available to as wide an audience as possible.CyanX73

and then the biggest irony here...

Capcom will continue to produce titles that appeal to users while pursuing a multiplatform strategy to help enhance profits.

Makes me think about not buying any Capcom games.

I think that's a self-contradicting statement. First of all, if your company focuses just on money and not making great games then you're not going to make a dime. What games were major sellers last year and what games will be major sellers? The great games. If you pursue making great games then you're going to make money and vice versa. Capcom is one of my favorite developers and if they're in it for the money then who cares? They are a corporation after all and a corporation's purpose is to...[drum roll]...make money!

It sound better if they say they wanna make great games and not just earn money. and yeah money is what they want
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[QUOTE="alkaline_DnB"][QUOTE="Creeping_Wolf"]Hey, it's another "Let's all slam Capcom because they're doing something I don't like" threads........:roll:. Haven't seen one of those in a while.dahaka_1

lol. it's just funny that nobody said anything before. not until the whole DMC crysis...playstation fans revolting cracks me up. they didn't seem to mind getting RE4 from the gamecube. but take away one of their games and poop hits the fan.

Well that is because Resident Evil games have always been shared between the Gamecube and PS2, it was really only a matter of time before Resident Evil 4 came to the PS2. I think everyone was expecting it. PS3 fans are pissed of that DMC4 is going multi-plat because it was a game that had all of its installments on the Playstation that a lot of people enjoyed.

no, they weren't actually. originally, the series was going to be on gamecube but once it was determined that they could make some money, they started moving stuff over to the PS2. In the end though, i'm going to buy a good game. period. end of story. I could care less about how capcom runs their business. Because that's what it is....THEIR BUSINESS.
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#18 dynomitemasta
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When you boil it down, it's just another business. Once you start making millions, and if you have share holders, you do what you think is best for the bottom line. I don't care what system they put out on. As long as I have the choice of putting it in MY favorite system they can release it on VHS or turn it into a floor wax or a dessert topping. You can add, but Don't take away. Of coarse getting too big for your britches isn't good either. That's usually when the crap stars flowing.
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#19 weijie86
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well,this topic has been discussed all over the net,causing mixed feeling to arise!sure this can't be surprising,considering the PS3 still-developing-fanbase.devil may cry series has been the greatest hits in the history of gaming,and I myself love this game very much..regarding the intention to boycott CAPCOM product,i think this is kind of unnecessary.I've been looking for CAPCOM games ever since i got my PS2, just think of all those great titles they have made, RE,God Hand,Onimusha, and not to mention few others extraordinary titles with breathtaking graphics and amazing storyline.I often deem CAPCOM games as excellent,since its quality surpasses many other games.Sure some may think that it is unfair that CAPCOM decides to go MULTIPLATFORM with the DMC,and most probably any other games that they made in the future, but not buying their product is really not a wise thing to do.this will just make them think that there is not much support from the PS3 owner,and the worst case, they may just end up making exclusives for X-BOX360-take lost planet and dead rising for example,which can be considered as great games(which i believe is not what we the PS supporters want).besides,its true that CAPCOM is just a company,and what makes it run is money.moreover as far as I know CAPCOM has never pledged anything to make exclusives for playstation 3.many of the ps3 gamers might think that CAPCOM is just being selfish,but there is no charity work in gaming,GAMES are for profit,and what makes them alive is profit as well.just show them our support to them guys,show them we need them,and I believe with the recent news of PS3 successful launch in Europe,things might turn out to be better..who knows CAPCOM might just start to make exclusives for the PS3 again..I am not a PS3 owner yet, but I really intend to get this console as soon as it has a decent line-up of games,and steady fanbase and supports..2008 is my best bet,and I really hope PS3 will once again dominate the gaming world,like its predecessor,the legendary console PS2!
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[QUOTE="alkaline_DnB"][QUOTE="Creeping_Wolf"]Hey, it's another "Let's all slam Capcom because they're doing something I don't like" threads........:roll:.  Haven't seen one of those in a while.dahaka_1

lol. it's just funny that nobody said anything before. not until the whole DMC crysis...playstation fans revolting cracks me up. they didn't seem to mind getting RE4 from the gamecube. but take away one of their games and poop hits the fan.

Well that is because Resident Evil games have always been shared between the Gamecube and PS2, it was really only a matter of time before Resident Evil 4 came to the PS2. I think everyone was expecting it. PS3 fans are pissed of that DMC4 is going multi-plat because it was a game that had all of its installments on the Playstation that a lot of people enjoyed.

wonder why the front of the box of RE4 on GC said ONLY FOR Gamcube then...false advertising??? so why are ps3 fans pissed if this is the trend of the industry? it's stupid and sellfish.
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#21 alkaline_DnB
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[QUOTE="dahaka_1"]

[QUOTE="alkaline_DnB"][QUOTE="Creeping_Wolf"]Hey, it's another "Let's all slam Capcom because they're doing something I don't like" threads........:roll:.  Haven't seen one of those in a while.alkaline_DnB

lol. it's just funny that nobody said anything before. not until the whole DMC crysis...playstation fans revolting cracks me up. they didn't seem to mind getting RE4 from the gamecube. but take away one of their games and poop hits the fan.

Well that is because Resident Evil games have always been shared between the Gamecube and PS2, it was really only a matter of time before Resident Evil 4 came to the PS2. I think everyone was expecting it. PS3 fans are pissed of that DMC4 is going multi-plat because it was a game that had all of its installments on the Playstation that a lot of people enjoyed.

wonder why the front of the box of RE4 on GC said ONLY FOR Gamcube then...false advertising??? so why are ps3 fans pissed if this is the trend of the industry? it's stupid and sellfish.

megaman was always on nintendo consoles until psx came along, what's your point?
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#22 JaySin8706
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it's called Capitalism.

Capitalism refers to the economic system characterized by the following points:

-Private property ownership is prevalent, as opposed to widespread commons seen in feudalism or socialism.

-Free Markets, were individuals and companies are generally allowed to freely compete for their own economic gain. Where widespread restrictions on production and exchange are avoided.

-Capitalists believe that markets lead to the most efficient use of resources, and therefore markets should function with little interference. In capitalist systems, the economic role of the state is to regulate markets (for example, ensuring some minimum standards to ensure public health and safety), protecting competition from monopoly and enforcement of contracts.

 

Capcom technically has only responsbility, and thats to there shareholders and not their fans. if going multi platform is best way to turn a profit go with it. I mean come on, its all about money nowadays.

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#23 azuroc
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To be honest, Capcom's American Capitalist business ethic has been well apparent for a while. I mean, they were pretty much the first game company to milk franchises (Mega Man anyone?). Seriously, they've been doing it for a long time. Ever since Mega Man 4.

I will say that it didn't become obnoxious till the Clover Studios drop. After that, nothing surprised me, even the DMC news.

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#24 Hotwad
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its a new day form when mega man was a GOOD worth while game..and capcom was a decent developer...
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huh, irroonyyy!
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why is everyone so mad cause capcom wants to turn a profit. Lets face it, having exclusive games for the PS3 right now will not make capcom any money, period. Not enought units out, Microsoft have 11 million units in peoples homes worldwide, it's simple math, 11 million consoles sold means more of your companies games going to be sold. Everybody that doesn't like capcom decision needs to go to school and learn about business and marketing.
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As the race for console will probably be more tight this generation than the last. I think we have to expect more title to go multiplatform because there will be money to be made on both side of the fence.

Only thing that bothers me is if the developpers have always the multiconsole in mind when creating a game, it would mean we will never reach really great title like we did before on PS2 (because they achieve the best the console could give)

In the end I guess it will all come to 1st and 2nd party developpers. Little big planet, Uncharted: Drake's fortune, Killzone, Ratchet and Clank, Singstar, Eye of judgment, Lair, Warhawk, Heavenly sword, hot shot golf 5, grand tourismo 5, future SOCOM, Wipeout, The gataway, God of war, Resistance, motorstorm

And most probably many more we dont know the existence.

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[QUOTE="eclipsed4utoo"]http://ps3.qj.net/Capcom-president-American-publishers-focus-on-money-not-making-great-games/pg/49/aid/87881 I saw this article over at QJ.net. Capcom's founder talks about how American publishers only focus on money and not creating great games, which is different from Japanese publishers because they favor the hardcore gamer. Does anybody see the irony here? If you don't, here it is. This is from the press release from Capcom about DMC4 going multiplatform.

Capcom is committed to making its titles available to as wide an audience as possible.

and then the biggest irony here...

Capcom will continue to produce titles that appeal to users while pursuing a multiplatform strategy to help enhance profits.

Makes me think about not buying any Capcom games.

dont buy it then just another extra copy for someone that does trust me your not buying will not shut capcom down, i dont even pay attention anymore to this crap as long as the game is good and fun who cares anymore
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why is everyone so mad cause capcom wants to turn a profit. Lets face it, having exclusive games for the PS3 right now will not make capcom any money, period. Not enought units out, Microsoft have 11 million units in peoples homes worldwide, it's simple math, 11 million consoles sold means more of your companies games going to be sold. Everybody that doesn't like capcom decision needs to go to school and learn about business and marketing.SmoothBrother1
people on this forum have no reading comprehension. nobody has ever said that they don't want a company to make a profit. I made this topic to show that Capcom makes a broad statement to make themselves look better by condemning other publishers....even though they are doing the same thing the other publishers are doing. my problem is, don't try to make your company look better by saying that you are just trying to make great games and not caring about the money when you make multiplatform games to make more money. you xbox fanboys think that I am only talking about DMC4. I don't give a flying flip about DMC4. I have never played the first 3. I am not at all interested in the 4th one. I am talking about Capcom possibly making all of their games multiplatform so they can make more money, but then condemn American publishers for only caring about the money. any whoever says that making an exclusive game for the PS3 will lose the company money...is an idiot. Resistance, a launch title when there weren't that many consoles sold, was able to hit 1 million units SOLD. do the math, and that's $60 million dollars in revenue from that game. did it cost $60 million to develop? no. hell, it may have "only" cost $30 million to develop, publish, and market. so that's a $30 million profit. of course if you put out a crappy game like the first Gundam game, then yes, you will lose money because the game sucks. but if you put out atleast a good game, you will make money. Resistance isn't the best game ever. It's a good game and look how it has sold.
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why is everyone so mad cause capcom wants to turn a profit. Lets face it, having exclusive games for the PS3 right now will not make capcom any money, period. Not enought units out, Microsoft have 11 million units in peoples homes worldwide, it's simple math, 11 million consoles sold means more of your companies games going to be sold. Everybody that doesn't like capcom decision needs to go to school and learn about business and marketing.SmoothBrother1

You are 100% right, when you are talking from the 'business' perspective. We are all gamers, and I've seen too many times over what happens to games when their company's focus is on the bottom line. This is why I tend to love Japanese developers much more than the western. NAME a AAA title coming out of EA. Seriously, companies aiming for the bottom line makes sense. Of course it does! It's business. What I would like to see is developers more concerned with the product. Kojima for instance is more concerned with the greatness of his creation, and not the money he receives later. Other wise he would have never made Metal Gear Solid, cause no one really caught on to his series till Solid came out. He kept holding on because he believed in his franchise. At this point he calls the shots to Konami as to how the product is pretty much going to be released. The industry needs more individuals like him. Or take the ICO team for instance. If Sony had not greenlighted Shadow of the Colossus because ICO wasn't a huge seller, we would have never seen Shadow of the Colossus.

My basic point is that if every company focused on the bottom line, every game would be an exact replica of the last. We're already seeing this. There aren't a lot of games that defy the standard gaming genres. We are constantly bombarded with another new FPS or another new RPG, but games like ICO, Shadow of the Colossus, and Okami all defy the genres in which we are accustomed to seeing games.

WE as the GAMING community SHOULD NOT ALLOW DEVELOPERS focus on the bottom line, or else we'll just get the same game over and over again. 

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[QUOTE="SmoothBrother1"]why is everyone so mad cause capcom wants to turn a profit. Lets face it, having exclusive games for the PS3 right now will not make capcom any money, period. Not enought units out, Microsoft have 11 million units in peoples homes worldwide, it's simple math, 11 million consoles sold means more of your companies games going to be sold. Everybody that doesn't like capcom decision needs to go to school and learn about business and marketing.eclipsed4utoo
people on this forum have no reading comprehension. nobody has ever said that they don't want a company to make a profit. I made this topic to show that Capcom makes a broad statement to make themselves look better by condemning other publishers....even though they are doing the same thing the other publishers are doing. my problem is, don't try to make your company look better by saying that you are just trying to make great games and not caring about the money when you make multiplatform games to make more money. you xbox fanboys think that I am only talking about DMC4. I don't give a flying flip about DMC4. I have never played the first 3. I am not at all interested in the 4th one. I am talking about Capcom possibly making all of their games multiplatform so they can make more money, but then condemn American publishers for only caring about the money. any whoever says that making an exclusive game for the PS3 will lose the company money...is an idiot. Resistance, a launch title when there weren't that many consoles sold, was able to hit 1 million units SOLD. do the math, and that's $60 million dollars in revenue from that game. did it cost $60 million to develop? no. hell, it may have "only" cost $30 million to develop, publish, and market. so that's a $30 million profit.

If they released Resistance on the XBOX 360 it would have sold twice as many, easily. What would be wrong with that? Why do you care? Sony paid to keep it exclusive, just like MIcrosoft pays for its exclusives. You are making a simplistic argument that masks a fanboy rant. Face the facts....the PS3 is not the PS2. It won't get the support the PS2 had and won't get anywhere near the exclusives the PS2 had. If anything, the PS2 of this gen is the 360. It has the lead, it's cheaper and is in a better position to secure big exclusives. Capcom and alot of other Japanese developers are fighting just to make it right now - closing great studios like Clover. You want them to only support one platform though, and lost millions of potential profits? That's just stupid fanboy ranting.

of course if you put out a crappy game like the first Gundam game, then yes, you will lose money because the game sucks. but if you put out atleast a good game, you will make money. Resistance isn't the best game ever. It's a good game and look how it has sold.

Resistance was a mediocre launch game and sold well cause there wasn't much else. Look at the sales of Perfect Dark Zero on the 360, same deal.
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A lot of people compare this generation to last generation or the one before that, but in actuality its more like the 16 bit generation. 360=Genesis, PS3=SNES. Think about it. Also, if you're going to compare the last generation to this generation, read this:

 http://archive.salon.com/tech/log/2000/10/27/playstation_rant/index.html

 

 SERIOUSLY! Read it, it's from OCT2000 and yet it is frightingly familiar

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[QUOTE="eclipsed4utoo"][QUOTE="SmoothBrother1"]why is everyone so mad cause capcom wants to turn a profit. Lets face it, having exclusive games for the PS3 right now will not make capcom any money, period. Not enought units out, Microsoft have 11 million units in peoples homes worldwide, it's simple math, 11 million consoles sold means more of your companies games going to be sold. Everybody that doesn't like capcom decision needs to go to school and learn about business and marketing.Hulabaloza
people on this forum have no reading comprehension. nobody has ever said that they don't want a company to make a profit. I made this topic to show that Capcom makes a broad statement to make themselves look better by condemning other publishers....even though they are doing the same thing the other publishers are doing. my problem is, don't try to make your company look better by saying that you are just trying to make great games and not caring about the money when you make multiplatform games to make more money. you xbox fanboys think that I am only talking about DMC4. I don't give a flying flip about DMC4. I have never played the first 3. I am not at all interested in the 4th one. I am talking about Capcom possibly making all of their games multiplatform so they can make more money, but then condemn American publishers for only caring about the money. any whoever says that making an exclusive game for the PS3 will lose the company money...is an idiot. Resistance, a launch title when there weren't that many consoles sold, was able to hit 1 million units SOLD. do the math, and that's $60 million dollars in revenue from that game. did it cost $60 million to develop? no. hell, it may have "only" cost $30 million to develop, publish, and market. so that's a $30 million profit.

If they released Resistance on the XBOX 360 it would have sold twice as many, easily. What would be wrong with that? Why do you care? Sony paid to keep it exclusive, just like MIcrosoft pays for its exclusives. You are making a simplistic argument that masks a fanboy rant. Face the facts....the PS3 is not the PS2. It won't get the support the PS2 had and won't get anywhere near the exclusives the PS2 had. If anything, the PS2 of this gen is the 360. It has the lead, it's cheaper and is in a better position to secure big exclusives. Capcom and alot of other Japanese developers are fighting just to make it right now - closing great studios like Clover. You want them to only support one platform though, and lost millions of potential profits? That's just stupid fanboy ranting.

of course if you put out a crappy game like the first Gundam game, then yes, you will lose money because the game sucks. but if you put out atleast a good game, you will make money. Resistance isn't the best game ever. It's a good game and look how it has sold.

Resistance was a mediocre launch game and sold well cause there wasn't much else. Look at the sales of Perfect Dark Zero on the 360, same deal.

I believe you are the fanboy here. show me where I stated that I wanted all companies to make games for one console. did I say that? no. I could give a rats ass cause I will have all three consoles. What I don't like is a JAPANESE company condemning AMERICAN companies for only looking at the bottom line when they are only looking at the bottom line also. now, if that's being a fanboy, then I am guilty.
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#34 XDangerMouse
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Well, another thing to look at is that behavior like this from Capcom is why Capcom has lost a good chunk of their best game creators ever since they killed their Clover Studios. Several of their key game creators left at that point, and honestly that is about when everyone started complaining about Capcom's "money over quality" ethics becoming readily apparent and DMC suddenly being whored out after almost a year of supposedly being exclusive without even a time delay to make sure both versions are actually good, drives home how their business practices have changed recently. It's no coincedence that now they've become a hypocritical company only interested in a quick buck and not making a game that will sell itself and probably make them more money in the long run.
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what is the big deal about losing dmc4 to multiplat?  I guess alot of you forgot when we lost resident evil entirely to the gamecube last gen until resident evil 4.  As a resident evil fan that hurt me deep.  I can't understand how capcom works.  They sold more resident evil games on the ps1 than they did on the n64 but still they gave the game cube exclusivety.

All playstation fans got were weak versions of such a great franchise.  Then what did capcom realized oops the ps2 is number one, what do they do come right back to the playstation with resident evil 4 and 5.

I'm just grateful that I'll be able to play dmc4 on the ps3 at all they could of did what they did with resident evil franchise and we could have lost the game entirely.

P.S.  We playstation fans get ninja gaiden sigma exclusive and as a big ninja gaiden fan I think we came out better in the end don't you?

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#36 jackle2071
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dude im so tired of this topic
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#37 SmoothBrother1
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dude im so tired of this topicjackle2071
so why did you respond?
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Capcom is the paris hilton of the video game industry, lol "stupid spoiled whore video playset" :lol:
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what is the big deal about losing dmc4 to multiplat? I guess alot of you forgot when we lost resident evil entirely to the gamecube last gen until resident evil 4. As a resident evil fan that hurt me deep. I can't understand how capcom works. They sold more resident evil games on the ps1 than they did on the n64 but still they gave the game cube exclusivety.

All playstation fans got were weak versions of such a great franchise. Then what did capcom realized oops the ps2 is number one, what do they do come right back to the playstation with resident evil 4 and 5.

I'm just grateful that I'll be able to play dmc4 on the ps3 at all they could of did what they did with resident evil franchise and we could have lost the game entirely.

P.S. We playstation fans get ninja gaiden sigma exclusive and as a big ninja gaiden fan I think we came out better in the end don't you?

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DMC4 has nothing to do with it(directly). DMC4 is just one of the many, many titles that Capcom will be released on multiple platforms so they can make more money. this is all well and good until they try to bash American companies for looking at the bottom line. Isn't that exactly what they are doing?
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[QUOTE="Creeping_Wolf"]Hey, it's another "Let's all slam Capcom because they're doing something I don't like" threads........:roll:. Haven't seen one of those in a while.alkaline_DnB
lol. it's just funny that nobody said anything before. not until the whole DMC crysis...playstation fans revolting cracks me up. they didn't seem to mind getting RE4 from the gamecube. but take away one of their games and poop hits the fan.

my favorite response on this board is "DMC wasnt even good in the first place" or "We dont need it!" Then its followed by a "lets not buy capcom" thread
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i think a lot of the fanboys should go take an economics class. they might learn a thing about how most companies, usually like to make a profit off of their product. so if it means capcom has to go multi platform to make money, well good for them and their business plan.
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it is kind of true in a sense. the japanese business strategy is much much different than the western business strategy... but recently capcom is using more of the american business strategy towards their games so it is kinda contradictive in that sense lol
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#43 GameArtGuy
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A lot of people compare this generation to last generation or the one before that, but in actuality its more like the 16 bit generation. 360=Genesis, PS3=SNES. Think about it. Also, if you're going to compare the last generation to this generation, read this:

http://archive.salon.com/tech/log/2000/10/27/playstation_rant/index.html

SERIOUSLY! Read it, it's from OCT2000 and yet it is frightingly familiar

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If anything this is most closely related to the PS1 and N64... the 360 is ps1, and the n64 is the ps3. People will always say "Well this is just like... and thats just like when" The industries changed, no its not like that... you cant compare something from 15 years ago to something today simply because the markets different, the people are different, the strategies are different, even what we consider a game console is different with new things like movies and tv shows for download....
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i think a lot of the fanboys should go take an economics class. they might learn a thing about how most companies, usually like to make a profit off of their product. so if it means capcom has to go multi platform to make money, well good for them and their business plan.JaySin8706
so it's ok for them to bash an american company for also trying to make a profit?
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it is kind of true in a sense. the japanese business strategy is much much different than the western business strategy... but recently capcom is using more of the american business strategy towards their games so it is kinda contradictive in that sense lol
longhorn7
exactly....it's not about exclusives. it's about the principal of bashing american companies for trying to make a profit and saying that your company really doesn't care about making alot of money, but then release all of your games on multiple platforms so you can make more money. it makes them sound like idiots.
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Capcom's comments show a distinct lack of honesty and integrity. But Capcom has showed in the past it only supports the winning system. You think they're not all about money? All of the solid Capcom titles of the last gen can be found on PS2 and most are exclusive. That's because the PS2 won the last gen gaming war. Even RE4 was eventually shipped over and was actually a better game on PS2. Shadow of Rome, DMC, Onimusha, Breath of Fire....all PS2, and some exclusive. From this consumers stand point, Capcom is not a company you can put much faith in. Imagine being an investor and hearing this kind of crap? Still, if they release good games, they will sell and when that happens, especially if it happened on a PS3, we wouldn't be saying any of this would we? They're a company, they want money, they're unethical and hypocrites, do they care? NO. What can you really do about it? Nothing. So get over it.
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Capcom's comments show a distinct lack of honesty and integrity. But Capcom has showed in the past it only supports the winning system. You think they're not all about money? All of the solid Capcom titles of the last gen can be found on PS2 and most are exclusive. That's because the PS2 won the last gen gaming war. Even RE4 was eventually shipped over and was actually a better game on PS2. Shadow of Rome, DMC, Onimusha, Breath of Fire....all PS2, and some exclusive. From this consumers stand point, Capcom is not a company you can put much faith in. Imagine being an investor and hearing this kind of crap? Still, if they release good games, they will sell and when that happens, especially if it happened on a PS3, we wouldn't be saying any of this would we? They're a company, they want money, they're unethical and hypocrites, do they care? NO. What can you really do about it? Nothing. So get over it.SkyCastleDan
I care. Why? I read an article(or a post) earlier, and it made the best arguement.....name the last AAA game from big, multiplatform company that only cares about the bottom line? I can't remember the last time EA had a great game. When a company starts to care about their bottom line, they stop caring about the quality of games. do we care about that? I would certainly hope so.
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[QUOTE="SkyCastleDan"]Capcom's comments show a distinct lack of honesty and integrity. But Capcom has showed in the past it only supports the winning system. You think they're not all about money? All of the solid Capcom titles of the last gen can be found on PS2 and most are exclusive. That's because the PS2 won the last gen gaming war. Even RE4 was eventually shipped over and was actually a better game on PS2. Shadow of Rome, DMC, Onimusha, Breath of Fire....all PS2, and some exclusive. From this consumers stand point, Capcom is not a company you can put much faith in. Imagine being an investor and hearing this kind of crap? Still, if they release good games, they will sell and when that happens, especially if it happened on a PS3, we wouldn't be saying any of this would we? They're a company, they want money, they're unethical and hypocrites, do they care? NO. What can you really do about it? Nothing. So get over it.eclipsed4utoo
I care. Why? I read an article(or a post) earlier, and it made the best arguement.....name the last AAA game from big, multiplatform company that only cares about the bottom line? I can't remember the last time EA had a great game. When a company starts to care about their bottom line, they stop caring about the quality of games. do we care about that? I would certainly hope so.

What, you don't think that Devil May Cry 4 will be AAA? How about any of the Call of Duty games? Was Oblivion not on 360 and PC too? You don't think the developers of that game realized they had created a masterpiece and were ready to milk it for all it was worth? Also, games like Saint's Row and F.E.A.R. If the PS3 was around when they were originally released, would they not have been on the system too at the same time as 360 and PC? I would certainly think so. A developer can be multiplatform and still make great games. All this goes to any Tom Clancy game as well, which again would have been originally released on PS3 too, had the system been created. Besides, our system is the most powerful so for future multiplatformers would we not get the best version of the game?

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Imagine being an investor and hearing this kind of crap? SkyCastleDan

"Capcom wants to...make more money! WOW!!!"

-=Mike 

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[QUOTE="eclipsed4utoo"]http://ps3.qj.net/Capcom-president-American-publishers-focus-on-money-not-making-great-games/pg/49/aid/87881 I saw this article over at QJ.net. Capcom's founder talks about how American publishers only focus on money and not creating great games, which is different from Japanese publishers because they favor the hardcore gamer. Does anybody see the irony here? If you don't, here it is. This is from the press release from Capcom about DMC4 going multiplatform.

Capcom is committed to making its titles available to as wide an audience as possible.

and then the biggest irony here...

Capcom will continue to produce titles that appeal to users while pursuing a multiplatform strategy to help enhance profits.

Makes me think about not buying any Capcom games.

That's more hipocrisy than irony...