I'm not saying "old" or "it's been posted" but it has been posted twice already and nobody seems to give a damn. I think everyone is waiting for a complaint thread to kick up so they can jump in. This is a great article and deserves way more attention.
http://n4g.com/ClickOut.aspx?ObjID=28832 Cell Pawns All readpimperjones
what kind of a noob are you? first of all, using the word "owns" for everything gaming is getting really annoying, especially if up spell it pwns.
Second, that article says NOTHING about how the PS3 cell is better than all other processors. Does what the guy say sound cool? Yes. Is it interesting? Yes. Even impressive? Yes it is...but it does not mean that it "pwns all" as you say. What makes you think that the x360s triple core cant render that? Im willing to bet you anything you want, that it can. Try to prove that it cant by what it says in that article. I challenge you to.Â
"To put this render job in perspective I just ran one frame of this scene through 3dsMax’s default ray-tracer an it took my Centrino Duo (dual core x86) machine one hour eight minutes to render what Cell and the iRT renders in less than one half of a second."
that was from one of the comments. so, a dual core takes 1 hour and 8 minutes to render what the cell did in half a second. what they did with this is something that most GPU's cant even do, let alone a CPU. just to clear something up there skippy, IBM helped make the Cell, and the triple core in the box, but obviously they know which is more powerful. get over it.
anyway, this is utterly astounding for a CPU to do on its own.
Judging from what was included in the full article and what I know about software rendering you self-owned yourself there, sir. What you were asking us to prove is exactly what that article is trying to imply. Are you that dim?
Wow! Holy plasma conduit inducers Batman! That's a lot of geeky techno babble!CaptainCrazy
The Cell can outperform a lot of dedicated graphics cards. The Cell is not supposed to do that (or is it). The Cell outperforms, theoretically, every processor on the market as evidenced by that demonstration. There you go.
what kind of a noob are you? first of all, using the word "owns" for everything gaming is getting really annoying, especially if up spell it pwns. Second, that article says NOTHING about how the PS3 cell is better than all other processors. Does what the guy say sound cool? Yes. Is it interesting? Yes. Even impressive? Yes it is...but it does not mean that it "pwns all" as you say. What makes you think that the x360s triple core cant render that? Im willing to bet you anything you want, that it can. Try to prove that it cant by what it says in that article. I challenge you to.
Hows this go back to your 360 thread and quit trolling. I challenge you to. What a loser.
[QUOTE="pimperjones"][QUOTE="Gzus666"]"To put this render job in perspective I just ran one frame of this scene through 3dsMax’s default ray-tracer an it took my Centrino Duo (dual core x86) machine one hour eight minutes to render what Cell and the iRT renders in less than one half of a second."
that was from one of the comments. so, a dual core takes 1 hour and 8 minutes to render what the cell did in half a second. what they did with this is something that most GPU's cant even do, let alone a CPU. just to clear something up there skippy, IBM helped make the Cell, and the triple core in the box, but obviously they know which is more powerful. get over it.
anyway, this is utterly astounding for a CPU to do on its own. Hows this go back to your 360 thread and quit trolling. I challenge you to. What a loser. i dont understand what your saying, please wait till you are a little older, and can put a sentence together, then come back.
[QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="pimperjones"][QUOTE="Gzus666"]"To put this render job in perspective I just ran one frame of this scene through 3dsMax’s default ray-tracer an it took my Centrino Duo (dual core x86) machine one hour eight minutes to render what Cell and the iRT renders in less than one half of a second."
that was from one of the comments. so, a dual core takes 1 hour and 8 minutes to render what the cell did in half a second. what they did with this is something that most GPU's cant even do, let alone a CPU. just to clear something up there skippy, IBM helped make the Cell, and the triple core in the box, but obviously they know which is more powerful. get over it.
anyway, this is utterly astounding for a CPU to do on its own. Hows this go back to your 360 thread and quit trolling. I challenge you to. What a loser. i dont understand what your saying, please wait till you are a little older, and can put a sentence together, then come back. I quoted you by accident that was mean't for menduco76 sorry
I render bigger scenes on my dual core 3.2 then that, and it only takes 3 minutes. *yawn* The levels in PGR3 are 3 million triangles plus 30,000 spectators and 200,000 poly cars...so whats the big deal? So far all I've seen from the PS3 is mediocre games. Atleast another system everyone knows of got over a 9.0 rating for their games at launch...which PS3 still has to accomplish.
I render bigger scenes on my dual core 3.2 then that, and it only takes 3 minutes. *yawn* The levels in PGR3 are 3 million triangles plus 30,000 spectators and 200,000 poly cars...so whats the big deal? So far all I've seen from the PS3 is mediocre games. Atleast another system everyone knows of got over a 9.0 rating for their games at launch...which PS3 still has to accomplish. Norbert76
because PGR does that with a processor AND the GPU, this was just the CPU rendering this image in 1080P(which PGR doesnt do) at 60fps. and 3minutes compared to half a second, thats still 360 to 1, so, for every 1 image yours makes (most likely including your GPU, but you wont say it is) it can make 360 by itself.
I'm just kidding, I do own a X360 and I lvoe it and the graphics are nice, but the PS3 is one powerful beast. I see pros and cons of each system but its not like I'll never rule out buying a PS3 or wii. I just have to stop buying X360 games. I just can't wait for somegood racing games like PGR4, Forza 2, or GT HD. Mmmm sexy, sexy cars.
http://n4g.com/ClickOut.aspx?ObjID=28832 Cell Pawns All readpimperjones
Once again; ROTFLMAO!!!
 YOU DID READ THE ARTICLE????????????????????????
 "The smart little system (PS3) will reach out across the network and leverage multiple IBM QS20 blades to render the complex model, in real-time, with software based ray-tracing"
It is RENDERED by multiple blade servers (dozens, posibly hundreds of Cell processors)
 It is only being DISPLAYED by a PS3----BIG DIFFERENCE!
This article illustrates what is known as "supercomputer architecture" which is part of what the cell was designed to do.
Grid computing the Cell can act as a master coordinator and compositing the work of 100's or 1000's of other machines. Basically, think of a single PS3 (maybe the one you have) reaching out to EVERY other PS3 in a grid.
The combined supercomputing power would defeat ANY other single computer on earth. That is what this IBM article is discussing.  It does not actually talk about the direct performance of CELL.
That being said... To put into perspective the CELL is capable of decoding 12 HD data streams. A powerful PC can do a SINGLE stream (possibly two).
Using their first cut at optimized code the 360 was able to do decode a SINGLE stream of HD video but it took most of the system power to do this (This info released by the Microsoft HD Development team - article on 1up).
It is well known the Cell has been demonstrated to be more than 12 times the power of the previous generation CPU's (including the 360 and PC Intel) but ONLY doing certain Vector math operations and recall the CELL was not cheap costing over a half billion dollars in R&D money alone.
Regardless... The first taste of this we have seen is the sheer amount of physics being done in Motorstorm. Motorstorm the game is nothing near the full potential of the CELL either.
Thanks very much for that explanation Untold Dreams. Your characteristically unreasonable knowledge on Cell architecture has simply been untapped as of yet.
At least the point is still that the PS3 can outperform modern PCs and the Xbox 360 in this particular operation, which is what was being asked from somewhere in the middle of the thread.
I'm tired of reading/hearing how powerful Cell is! Talk is cheap! I wanna see some mind blowing games!
BIGDEE06
as was stated, if you know what the hell your looking at, motorstorm is an amazing game. there is physics and AI calculations that are utterly astounding in that game, but apparently graphics is all anyone cares about. but motorstorm does deliver in that aspect too.
I'm tired of reading/hearing how powerful Cell is! Talk is cheap! I wanna see some mind blowing games!
Gzus666
as was stated, if you know what the hell your looking at, motorstorm is an amazing game. there is physics and AI calculations that are utterly astounding in that game, but apparently graphics is all anyone cares about. but motorstorm does deliver in that aspect too. MotorStorm looks good, but it doesn't blow my mind. I hope Killzone looks as good(or better) than the E3 '05 Trailer.
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