Consumers & Sony
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Ok after hearing that PAL PS3's will feature limited-backwards compatability everyone is making a big deal out of it, too me does it really matter? If I want to play my PS2, I'll take it out and pop in the disc, if you sold your PS2 for a PS3 that's your fault-- if it's going to decrease the price of the PS3 I'm all for it. After all didn't you buy a PS3 for PS3 games did you not? I barely if ever play PS2 games on my PS3.
I am also loosing faith in Sony, after being contiously let down. I've been pretty happy with my PS3, but honestly you can't deny the fact that Sony is in deep trouble. Stupid as it sounds, everyone is complaining about the backwards compatability issue with PAL PS3s(although I could careless), it's already at a hefty price $600, and to be honest if Microsoft decided to drop the price of the Xbox 360, the PS3 is practically done, unless Sony dropped the price but even that consumers will be more tempted to buy the cheaper 360 because of it's software library. Hell I'm enjoying my X360 more than my PS3, but I've always been a loyal Sony fan(I picked up my PS3 at launch), but damn it Sony you need to start turning things around, stop losing exclusives, and delivering the promise to your loyal consumers.
European consumers, I feel your pain. Folks, it's evident but Sony needs to start turning things around soon, because I am beginning to lose my faith in them-- I've always looked at Sony as my favorite console manufacturer, but this isn't like the PS2. If you think it is-- you're in for a huge surprise. When there's already two consoles on the market that's delivered in every facet, and your to a slow start it's going to kill you. Virtua Fighter 5 didn't even make a dent in the Japanese market, 49,500 copies in opening day? I don't see it anymore on the charts.
This isn't a troll-thread, but you have to be completely stupid to think Sony is doing just fine, or things will be just fine. Even the European launch won't be enought to turn the tide around, if the PS3 does end up being placed 3rd in the console wars, you can all thank it too releasing too late, and slapping a huge price on the system, and while a system's launch generally tends to be rearing a lot of ugly heads, that is acceptable to me anyways-- but folks the deciding factor for Sony to take reign as the console champion is a lot sooner than most people think.
I just don't get why Japanese consumers are so scared away from the PS3-- it's lineup of software is a lot better here for now anyways, MotorStorm, Virtua Fighter 5, Armored Core 4(which is big in Japan I do believe), Resistance, and considering the 20GB model can be found for a price of $412 USD, compared to when the PS2 launched in 2000 it was $386 USDs.
I was just curious on what other people think about these current situation? Please don't tell me 'Oh it just launched and it's 3 months old'-- believe I already know that. But when you have a system that's been on the market that is generally popular with the public, and a revolutionary system that is taken the world by storm thats a different story, you'd tend to think Sony better get on it's heels a lot faster than it is. I'd like that March update sooner, but I guess will have to wait until March 23rd. Please be at least civilized-- I am entitled to my opinion and what I think Sony's doing wrong, so please don't take things out of context, and fight with nonsense.
Thanks.
I think they'll be fine. Sony is doing business as usual, and that's worked for them for their past 2 console cycles. their planning on having this thing around for about 10 years, so thats about 3 years into the PS4 lifecycle. Son'ys still focusing on some PS2 IP's, and reigning in support for the PS3 among independant and major developers, and is still refusing to pay for exclusives. It's also got to deal with a LOT of unneccessary and inflamatory press is another issue, as the media has decided to hate the thing for fear of antoher Sony Powerhouse. Remember the huge deal they made about 200 previous generation games not working on the console? so now we're surprised that sony's not including the PS2 silicon for the PAL version? It's people like you that kill the system by focusing on everything negative while ignoring all the positives. If you're losing faith, e-bay your system and get off the PSN. Remember when the PS2 came out and the only decent game was dark cloud? Yeah, I remember that, and it's a similar situation now, only it's a lot different this time because the devs have to deal with a processor unlike anything they'd ever seen before. Sure, Sony needs to spend a little more time developing some great AAA first-party IP's for the thing, but so do other developers, and what's not in the media is what sony's doing to make sure that the developers it works with get the support they need.xcoregamerskill
But you don't understand that the PS2 launch was far different than the PS3 launch for several reasons:
-- The PS2 launched, with an already ill-fated Dreamcast that was poorly selling
--DVD was already booming, which helped the PS2 sell, Blu-ray isn't booming, in fact DVD is still killing both formats
--There's a huge price difference
--The Xbox 360 has been out for a year, and nearly has superior software on every front.
--Nintendo's Wii is selling crazy at least 4-5 million sold-- it's cheap, and offers something new which consumers are craving for.
Believe me, I am a diehard Sony fan, I bought my PS2, and PS3 waiting countless hours just to get my damn hands on one, so don't be telling me what to do. I am just telling you as a consumer, I am becoming dissatisfied with how Sony is dealing with the PS3. I got a god damn HDTV, I love Blu-ray. But I don't care about this online movie service, get some more content on the PSN.
You obviously don't know how deep trouble Sony is, and this as a Sony fan concerns me. I don't care about the CELL processor, the RSX just give me more games, more content, I don't care about 1080p focus on the games. I am sure the PS3 will hit it's stride soon enough, but honestly there digging themselves in a bigger whole.
I've seen one PS3 commerical in the past three weeks. You just don't understand the consequences of underdelivering on a console, when there's two systems making a huge splash.
Dude you should read the Defender of PS3 thread.pimperjones
Man I already know all that stuff. If you own all three systems, you'd realize the PS3 isn't as great as the 360, or Wii right now. I am just saying Sony needs to move quicker, if it wants to salvage it's remains.
salvage??? you're crazy. Their selling a 10 year system. 10 years. Its like I said, they can't drop everything and focus on the PS3. Sony is a much bigger company than that, and they have more to worry about than just the ps3, or bluray. They're doing what they have to do right now to keep the system alive until more of the AAA titles get released. Why do you think the PS2 still has games coming out for it?xcoregamerskill
Do you obviously know how much Sony has invested in the PS3, and Blu-Ray format? It's invested millions of dollars on these two products, and if you've heard Sony has shipped 4 million PS3s-- at least 2 million are sitting on shelves, and another million being allocated to Europe, do you know that's over billions upon billions of dollars at stake for Sony?
Do you know if Sony is not careful, they could literally hit rock bottom. Don't tell me all this diversified company, yes Sony is a very deversified company, but we're talking about billions of dollars lost, flushed down the drain. What's going to happen when they discontinue the PS2? If Sony fails to get a big user base with the PS3, you're pretty much in deep, deep trouble.
Lack of developer support, it won't be selling any games. Don't treat me like I don't know anything kid.
Do you obviously know how much Sony has invested in the PS3, and Blu-Ray format? It's invested millions of dollars on these two products, and if you've heard Sony has shipped 4 million PS3s-- at least 2 million are sitting on shelves, and another million being allocated to Europe, do you know that's over billions upon billions of dollars at stake for Sony?
Do you know if Sony is not careful, they could literally hit rock bottom. Don't tell me all this diversified company, yes Sony is a very deversified company, but we're talking about billions of dollars lost, flushed down the drain. What's going to happen when they discontinue the PS2? If Sony fails to get a big user base with the PS3, you're pretty much in deep, deep trouble.
Lack of developer support, it won't be selling any games. Don't treat me like I don't know anything kid.mjf249
You sound like a Sony expert to me. :lol:
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