correct aspect ratio with ps2 games on the ps3

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#1 harakiri25
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i really like the idea of playing my old ps2 games upscaled to 1080p. but there seems to be some kind of a problem with the upscaler.

for example resident evil 4 (a 16:9 game) can be played in original mode with black bars on all four sides and also in the full screen mode filling almost the entire screen with black bars above and below the image messing up the already widescreen aspect ratio of the game completely.

is there a way to fix this?

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#2 Lepuke
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There is no upscaling the PS2 games unfortunately, they all run at the standard 640x480 resolution upon loading a PS2 disc.

Thus the black bars on the sides.

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#3 dewmandew7
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There is no upscaling the PS2 games unfortunately, they all run at the standard 640x480 resolution upon loading a PS2 disc.

Thus the black bars on the sides.

Lepuke

PS2 games upscale.

Set your TV's "Wide Mode" (that's what it's called on mine) to full. PS2 games that are in 16:9 are actually just 4:3 pictures that need to be stretched out. So, your TV will take it as a 4:3 signal. You will need to tell it to stretch the image to fit the screen.

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#4 nyjetsfan5000
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PS2 games upscale, you just need to go into the settings and change something to full, I think? yes, I know im helpful

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#5 harakiri25
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thanks guys, i will try that. it's a shame the upscaling doesn't work as well as it should
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#6 AIH_PSP
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You have to go to PS2 settings and set the upscaler to full. You can also do it while in-game by pressing the home button and going to options.
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#7 Flame_Blade88
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Yeah what everyone else said, set it to Full. I found that out too when I was watching a DVD on my PS3.
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#8 MrNemesis
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A lot of the screen gets cut off when I'm playing Dragonball Z Budokai 3, I haven't been able to test other PS21 games but does anyone know how to fix this? This is with full screen selected, when set to normal it is in a box.
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#9 Lepuke
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Stretching the a 4:3 image to 16:9 isn't upscaling it's just distorting the picture to fill the whole screen.

Most games that is not a big deal, but considering the only PS2 game I still play on occasion is Pinball Hall of Fame: The Williams Collection, it actually messes up how well I do on the various pinball tables in the game.

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#10 harakiri25
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Stretching the a 4:3 image to 16:9 isn't upscaling it's just distorting the picture to fill the whole screen.

Lepuke

so if the ps3 isn' upscaling, what do you call this?

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#11 Lepuke
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Damn, well I never noticed the options for smoothing and full screen... its still the same 640x480 resolution though stretched to 16:9 ratio.

So in the end full screen still messes up my cheesy ass pinball game, but the smoothing is a definate plus. Which works basically like 4x anti aliasing.

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#12 dalscowboys22
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[QUOTE="Lepuke"]

Stretching the a 4:3 image to 16:9 isn't upscaling it's just distorting the picture to fill the whole screen.

harakiri25

that looks in game to cutscene. there is no way that upscalling will improve graphics like that just resolution. and i would justify that by the fact that the horses reigns ( or whatever it is ) are different in the pictures.

so if the ps3 isn' upscaling, what do you call this?

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#13 jimm895
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I played around with the smoothing and full screen modes, then played around with my TV's settings and finally after a while the picture quality is fairly close to HD quality (not as good but much better than before I started changing the settings).
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#14 fs_metal
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The 60 gig PS3 DOES upscale PS2 games. That is a fact. There is no point arguing about it
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#15 jimm895
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The 60 gig PS3 DOES upscale PS2 games. That is a fact. There is no point arguing about itfs_metal

Yes it does upscale but it doesn't upscale to HD.

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#16 pashitos
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If using HDMI connection and setting PS/PS2 upscaling to normal, it will stretch sideways any 4:3 PAL game and the aspect ratio will be a bit wrong. The difference might not be very noticable, but it is there.

HDMI does not support PAL mode and runs the game in 576p mode. If PS/PS2 upscaling is off, it is actually possible to see a gray box around the image of a PAL game (I am not talking about "black sides" which are visible on 16:9 TV in 4:3 mode). Gray box is very annyoing but it is impossible to get rid of it while using HDMI and maintaining the right aspect ratio at the same time.

What upscaling will do is try to upsacle the PAL mode to 576p mode. Sadly enough, it will stretch the image left to fill the gray box, but it will not stretch it down. I don't see why it couldn't stretch it down as well, but it just doesn't.

Basicly, upscaling a 4:3 PAL game was useless for me. To get rid of the gray box I had to switch to using component cable which allowed me to run a game in native PAL mode.

P.S. I am from Europe, that's why I am talking about PAL. But I am pretty sure the same problem exists with NTSC as well.