Could PS3 handle Crysis?

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#1 casey133
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Believe it or not I just saw Crysis for the first time (just wanted to see what everyone was talking about) so I found a review on youtube.

The graphics look IMHO almost real. Now with everyone talking about how much power the PS3 has that has not yet been tapped I wanted to ask people who would probably know more than me about this. Could the PS3 play Crysis well?

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#2 DEF-JAM
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Oh the PS3 can play any game well.
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#3 deactivated-5cf0a2e13dbde
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Im not extremely tech savvy, but the not much of the PS3's power has been tapped, so I think Crysis could run on the PS3, albeit maybe downgraded a bit.
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#4 korn666666
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no it can not...
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#5 CosmoKing7717
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PLEASE DONT START THIS TOPIC AGAIN IM BEGGING YOU...this is the 1000th topic about this...everytime u get very uninformed people who say either "NEVER IT"S IMPOSSIBLE PC GAMING FOREVER" or "Um...ps3 is god how could it not"...the truth is that this is totally up for debate. One crytek dev said they had been porting the crytek engine to the ps3 and that surprisingly it matched super easily up with the cell and was going very easy, laughing after all the talk of how hardthe ps3 is to work with. THe ps3 is unique in that it's cpu actually does graphics itself not just with the RSX gpu doing all the work like all the pc gamers will think. This means...we dont know what it can do. Devs can say they are taping "40%" of asystem, but in reality dont know because it's about efficiently using the spe's to the fullest potential...so can crysis play the game? yes of course...on how high of settings? it depends how well it's optomized but im thinkin high settings right now 30fps if optimized as well as possible...
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#6 trapper94
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Believe it or not I just saw Crysis for the first time (just wanted to see what everyone was talking about) so I found a review on youtube.

The graphics look IMHO almost real. Now with everyone talking about how much power the PS3 has that has not yet been tapped I wanted to ask people who would probably know more than me about this. Could the PS3 play Crysis well?

casey133
Absolutley, the ps3 has such an incredible GPU and CPU it can pretty much handle any peice of software you throw at it pretty darn well.
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#7 Matt2556
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I think both the 360 and the PS3 can handle it.

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#8 slickchris7777
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No, and it's a stupid question to ask in the ps3 forum.
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It can, but it wont run at its highest, the game laughs at most PC hardware to date unless you have a good Quad Core, something along the lines of a 8800GTS(X preferred) and at least 2gig of ram (yes, PC OS resource-hog argument etc)

Needless to say, running at 720p it'll run fine, just dont expect top of the line stuff.

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#10 korn666666
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9800 GX2 can just do it... so stop talking out your ass
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#11 PhAnToM_LeGeIVd
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Believe it or not I just saw Crysis for the first time (just wanted to see what everyone was talking about) so I found a review on youtube.

The graphics look IMHO almost real. Now with everyone talking about how much power the PS3 has that has not yet been tapped I wanted to ask people who would probably know more than me about this. Could the PS3 play Crysis well?

casey133

yeah it could considering on dual layer blu ray

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#12 emeritus
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9800 GX2 can just do it... so stop talking out your asskorn666666

A GX2 can do more then 'just run it' and I'm talking about getting it to run at a stable framerate at low (720p) res

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#13 GloomyFate
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It definitely has the power to, but the only way it would work is being rebuilt from the ground up specifically for the ps3. Crysis runs on DirectX10, which is different from the PS3.
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#14 CosmoKing7717
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[QUOTE="casey133"]

Believe it or not I just saw Crysis for the first time (just wanted to see what everyone was talking about) so I found a review on youtube.

The graphics look IMHO almost real. Now with everyone talking about how much power the PS3 has that has not yet been tapped I wanted to ask people who would probably know more than me about this. Could the PS3 play Crysis well?

PhAnToM_LeGeIVd

yeah it could considering on dual layer blu ray

see what i meant by my first post...saying ur bluray drive has to do with running a game -_-
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#15 emeritus
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It definitely has the power to, but the only way it would work is being rebuilt from the ground up specifically for the ps3. Crysis runs on DirectX10, which is different from the PS3. GloomyFate

Crysis runs on DX9 unless you put the settings to very high IIRC

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#16 PhAnToM_LeGeIVd
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i dont know what DX9 or IIRC means im no tech nerd but i think PS3 could because dual layer bluray but no 360 couldnt fit it all onto a dvd
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#17 emeritus
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i dont know what DX9 or IIRC means im no tech nerd but i think PS3 could because dual layer bluray but no 360 couldnt fit it all onto a dvdPhAnToM_LeGeIVd

PC version does.

BR wouldn't make a difference TBH, the PC version will always have the advantage because if the installation on the HDD to cut down on loading from the DVD, if Crysis was on console it would have to constantly stream data from disc and you would have to suffer with load zones.

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#18 PhAnToM_LeGeIVd
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[QUOTE="PhAnToM_LeGeIVd"]i dont know what DX9 or IIRC means im no tech nerd but i think PS3 could because dual layer bluray but no 360 couldnt fit it all onto a dvdemeritus

that would really suck, i hate load zones and i think everyone agrees that crysis will not be coming to a console

PC version does.

BR wouldn't make a difference TBH, the PC version will always have the advantage because if the installation on the HDD to cut down on loading from the DVD, if Crysis was on console it would have to constantly stream data from disc and you would have to suffer with load zones.

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#19 TacticalElefant
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Goddammit, let me explain the nature of Crysis.

Crysis is an extremely heavy game. Now we'll split this up into 3 issues: CPU-related tasks, GPU-related tasks, and RAM issues.

CPU-
The PS3 is more then capable of handling CryEngine 2.0s usage of physics, procedural generation, AI, destructible objects that's implemented. What it comes down to of course proper programming. Now one other thing the PS3 has up it's sleeve that the Xbox 360 cannot do very well is graphics related calculations on the main processor. I'm not to sure how Cell BE would best utilized for a game like Crysis when it comes to graphics. But Naughty Dog did state that a good deal of graphics was processed on the Cell BE in tandem with the RSX in their beautifully made game Uncharted: Drakes Fortune. Considering they were utilizing 30% at the most of the Cell BE's capabilities with graphics, AI, physics, etc, that's pretty ******* brilliant. Hell I think Insomniac would be a good partner for Crytek if they were to ever do such a port (very unlikely though).

GPU-
The G71 processor that makes up the RSX is nothing I would call special, considering a GeForce 8600 is around the same capability as the GeForce 7800GT of which has a G71 GPU, I would think on the RSX alone we can automatically assertain the PS3 could achieve close to or about "medium" quality graphics settings in a 720p screen format with proper GPU optimization (Crytek is a pro at optimization). That alone is a pretty nice thing. With the Cell BE brought into the equation I think it's possible to achieve maybe a bit higher geometry or possibly lighting.

Now what I've talked about can pretty much be taken with a grain of salt, however Crytek did say that the PS3 and 360 could handle Crysis decently if they were to port it when it comes down to their CPUs and GPUs. However.......

RAM-
This is the PS3 and 360's achilles heel. Even at medium graphics, Crysis wants RAM, and tons of it. I play the game at high settings at it eats about 1.2 GB of the stuff, and Crytek said this is their biggest problem with a port to either system. The PS3, no matter what model does have an HDD, which automatically means they could texture stream easier as well as have the aid of a page file/memory caching system, which from what I've heard from either Naughty Dog or Insomniac that using a page file on the HDD is like having another extra 120 MB of RAM at their disposal. It's not the real thing, which is best, but it's understandable in that sense to you guys. However this still probably wouldn't be enough for "medium" textures, therefore the page file system + a robust texture streaming system would have to be utilized. And even still we don't know if that would be enough to express Crysis the way it should be.

So as you can see, the amounts of RAM are a huge issue with this game and the idea of it being ported. Frankly I could care less about seeing the PS3 and 360 fanboys appeased, however I would find a port of Crysis intriguing as an interesting case study of taking a full fledge PC centric game, and moving it onto a console(s) that has a severe limitation possibly couldn't be worked around. Half Life 2 of course saw light on the Xbox, but it's plagued with using an underpowered CPU however it did utilize a streaming system. So I guess time will tell, be it Crytek moves onto to other projects or they decide (or EA hassles them to) to port the game over. In my honest opinion I can say that the PS3 I think is better equiped to handle the game if it was fully and properly made for the system. However the 360 is a bit more readily capable for a port. It uses a DX9 API system, and translating the game to it's PowerPC based processor wouldn't be too difficult, especially since it's a symetrical tri-core system. Of course RAM is the issue and I do think that a 360 version should require an HDD no ifs ands or buts because it would desperately need it. Ever play Elder Scrolls 4 w/o the HDD? I tried that once, and damn the framerate was aweful. So I hope that lights some of your brains up as to why this is a difficult issue. If you don't understand what I explained, then sorry.

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#20 korn666666
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well they are making a new game for ps3 only using the crytek 2 engine

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#21 TacticalElefant
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Oh and regards to Blu-Ray, Crysis really wouldn't benefit from it. The PC version fits on a dual layer DVD. Depending on the Blu-Ray and DVD reading speeds, Crysis could benefit from a possible dual disc and HDD stream, not to sure. But I thought I would say that. Blu-Rays are not needed to store the game unless for multiple languages.
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#22 emeritus
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If you don't understand what I explained, then sorry.

TacticalElefant

Read you loud and clear dude.

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#23 clarkportmanken
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i think it was the lead of the dev team for crysis that said you could get crysis running on a cellphone the quality of it though will varry he said the same about the consoles it will run but not at the max quality it would have to be reduced.
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#24 austereh
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Crysis can't handle the PS3

oooo no I didn't! My PC runs Crysis on high. My bro installed it on his mac laptop (with that windows thing you can get for it) and ran it on high. I think the PS3 could run it easily.

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#25 f50p90
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Of course it could handle it. But it wouldn't look as good as a high end PC
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#26 --Sinister--
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Yeah PS3 would likly run it in a few years when more of the playstations power has been tapped into. It will be able to run Far Cry 2 (will little to no sacrafices compared to PC) so it should be able to run Crysis.

Also, I read somewhere that from what we know of the system requirements for Metal gear solid 4, ONLY the Ps3 can run it. Not even the most powerful PC can because the lack of blu ray and the 360 would quite literally fry itself if it attempted to. It ould require some 30 or so discs and on top of that it wouldnt be able to run the first disc for more than 2.4 minutes.

I dont know if those statistics are exactly true, but it wouldnt suprise me

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#27 TacticalElefant
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Yeah PS3 would likly run it in a few years when more of the playstations power has been tapped into. It will be able to run Far Cry 2 (will little to no sacrafices compared to PC) so it should be able to run Crysis.

Also, I read somewhere that from what we know of the system requirements for Metal gear solid 4, ONLY the Ps3 can run it. Not even the most powerful PC can because the lack of blu ray and the 360 would quite literally fry itself if it attempted to. It ould require some 30 or so discs and on top of that it wouldnt be able to run the first disc for more than 2.4 minutes.

I dont know if those statistics are exactly true, but it wouldnt suprise me

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Graphically Far Cry 2 isn't as impressive as Crysis. The draw distance is much shorter too as well. It was being made with the consoles in mind first anyways.
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#28 f50p90
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The ps3s GPU is outdated and pretty weak compared to high end ones available

Consoles are always gimped compared to good PCs to keep the prices down. PS3 could run crysis, but not as well as a good gaming rig

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#29 Perception1
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Believe it or not I just saw Crysis for the first time (just wanted to see what everyone was talking about) so I found a review on youtube.

The graphics look IMHO almost real. Now with everyone talking about how much power the PS3 has that has not yet been tapped I wanted to ask people who would probably know more than me about this. Could the PS3 play Crysis well?

casey133

Most people will say it can't but for some reason I believe it can.

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#30 oenaro
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TO: TacticalElefant ...... Excellent explanation !
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#31 DaBigNig
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No one is taking into account the PS3's XDR RAM which is far faster and far more efficient than typical PC RAM

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btw that guy kinda looks like 50 cent

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#33 Whale_
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Crysis would demollish the PS3 with its outrageous graphics.

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#34 jjtiebuckle
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I was going to mention the lack of RAM, but what's his name already stated it. Even with "far faster and far more efficient" you still need more of it. It doesn't matter how fast a defensive lineman is or how well he tackles, if he's not over 200 pounds he's useless.
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#35 SkyCommand
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So, instead of fanning the flames , I will leave you with this video. According to one crytek dev, crysis (on PC) is powered by the Cryengine 2. CE2 uses DirectX9 on medium settings and DX10 when everything is cranked to "Very High" settings. Crysis 2, which will be on PC, PS3, and 360; will utilise the CryEngine 3. CE 3, according to benchmarking done thus far, runs on consoles (both xbox and playstation) at an equivalent to the "medium" settings of the CE2 on PC.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WJG14uLA3k

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#36 dakan45
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Not on the highest settings, perhaps if it was a ps3 exclusive, it could reach medium-high!!
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#37 Eazy1891
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almost....

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#38 mushi799
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Crysis 2 is coming to the ps3 and 360.

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#39 taplok
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Let's wait and see...

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March 27th 2008 folks....