Cross-game chat never coming - Confirmed

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#1 MethodManFTW
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Yoshida-san confirms due to RAM limitations cross game chat is not a possiblity on the PS3 ever.. I wonder how long they have known this and just not confirmed it, or if they have been researching ways to make it possible this whole time.

Anyway, are you bummed?

I personally don't care that much, but in some very limited cases I would really like to have it on this console..

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#2 MethodManFTW
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Here a link.. Couldn't post in OP for some reason.. Original credit to Eurogamer.. http://zoknowsgaming.com/2011/08/19/crossgame-chat-ps3-gonna-happen-sony-finally-admits/
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#3 Texas2089
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It would have been nice but its not a big deal for me. I barely use it on Xbox so I doubt I'd use it much on PS3 either. But then again I do have more PSN friends so maybe I would find more use for it. Who knows :P Either way I'm not gonna worry about it because I didn't really expect it anyway.
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#4 killev
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i am still annoyed that if the xbox can come uo with cross chat then why cant ps3? ps3 engine is more superior than xbox 360

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#5 MethodManFTW
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i am still annoyed that if the xbox can come uo with cross chat then why cant ps3? ps3 engine is more superior than xbox 360

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because of ram limitations.
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#6 H_M_1
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[QUOTE="killev"]

i am still annoyed that if the xbox can come uo with cross chat then why cant ps3? ps3 engine is more superior than xbox 360

MethodManFTW
because of ram limitations.

Stupid RAM limitation. *shakes fist at PS3 *
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#7 JoKeR_421
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i honestly only used it TWICE on my xbox, and that was just to try it out lol....i dont care for that feature, and its funny the article says that thats the number ONE feature we all want. more like what he wants lol.....the NUMBER ONE thing i want sony to do is fix the damn web browser. thats their first issue i want them to resolve not no damn cross game chat a feature only a handful of users want.....so in the end, i dont care for this feature and if it cant be done, so be it. at least fix the browser dn we call it even sony lol
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i honestly only used it TWICE on my xbox, and that was just to try it out lol....i dont care for that feature, and its funny the article says that thats the number ONE feature we all want. more like what he wants lol.....the NUMBER ONE thing i want sony to do is fix the damn web browser. thats their first issue i want them to resolve not no damn cross game chat a feature only a handful of users want.....so in the end, i dont care for this feature and if it cant be done, so be it. at least fix the browser dn we call it even sony lolJoKeR_421
cross game chat has been number one on Playstation.blog share since the creation of it. :P
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#9 AtheistPreacher
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I never really understood the point of the feature anyway. The only reason I'd want to chat while gaming is if I'm playing co-op with someone (as I do very often in Bad Company 2).

Otherwise, I'd rather wait until I'm NOT gaming to chat with someone. And to do that I have this archaic device called a PHONE (teenagers: that's your texting machine you carry around with you, it actually has this feature where you TALK to your friends instead of texting... you know... like Skype). :lol:

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#10 MushroomWig
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At least we finally know for sure. I hope annoying comments ("does this new firmware have cross-game chat!?") will finally stop now. At least the Vita has it. :)
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#11 MushroomWig
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i am still annoyed that if the xbox can come uo with cross chat then why cant ps3? ps3 engine is more superior than xbox 360

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Both the 360 and PS3 have 512MB of RAM, but the problem with the PS3 is that it splits that memory between system and video memory (256 + 256). I'd LOVE to know why Sony decided to do this, but at least they're not making this mistake again.
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#12 JohnF111
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i am still annoyed that if the xbox can come uo with cross chat then why cant ps3? ps3 engine is more superior than xbox 360

killev
Why does this question always pop up, read the article, it clearly states that cross-game chat as an afterthought is not viable, as for Xbox having it they thought about it before deciding how much RAM games can use. Read before posting.
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[QUOTE="JoKeR_421"]i honestly only used it TWICE on my xbox, and that was just to try it out lol....i dont care for that feature, and its funny the article says that thats the number ONE feature we all want. more like what he wants lol.....the NUMBER ONE thing i want sony to do is fix the damn web browser. thats their first issue i want them to resolve not no damn cross game chat a feature only a handful of users want.....so in the end, i dont care for this feature and if it cant be done, so be it. at least fix the browser dn we call it even sony lolMethodManFTW
cross game chat has been number one on Playstation.blog share since the creation of it. :P

lol im just saying that, that isnt or shouldnt be the NUMBER ONE feature lol.....theres other things that are more important that that u dig?
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#15 MethodManFTW
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[QUOTE="MethodManFTW"][QUOTE="JoKeR_421"]i honestly only used it TWICE on my xbox, and that was just to try it out lol....i dont care for that feature, and its funny the article says that thats the number ONE feature we all want. more like what he wants lol.....the NUMBER ONE thing i want sony to do is fix the damn web browser. thats their first issue i want them to resolve not no damn cross game chat a feature only a handful of users want.....so in the end, i dont care for this feature and if it cant be done, so be it. at least fix the browser dn we call it even sony lolJoKeR_421
cross game chat has been number one on Playstation.blog share since the creation of it. :P

lol im just saying that, that isnt or shouldnt be the NUMBER ONE feature lol.....theres other things that are more important that that u dig?

eh, i would say all that is subjective as to far as what is really most important, but cross game chat is objectively #1 on the playstation.blog share site.. but yeah, it would of been nice to have, but i would hope this news wouldnt surprise anyone after like 5 years or however long the ps3 has been out by now.
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#16 JoKeR_421
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[QUOTE="MethodManFTW"][QUOTE="JoKeR_421"][QUOTE="MethodManFTW"] cross game chat has been number one on Playstation.blog share since the creation of it. :P

lol im just saying that, that isnt or shouldnt be the NUMBER ONE feature lol.....theres other things that are more important that that u dig?

eh, i would say all that is subjective as to far as what is really most important, but cross game chat is objectively #1 on the playstation.blog share site.. but yeah, it would of been nice to have, but i would hope this news wouldnt surprise anyone after like 5 years or however long the ps3 has been out by now.

i doubt it will. i mean its been soo long that we havent heard or seen anything about the cross-game chat, that ppl started to drift off , im sure theres a good amount of ppl who are disappointed or are let down by sony. who knows maybe sony is working around it somehow ....but oh well man, this thign doesnt effect me. although i do admit with u it would of been good to have, u know why? cuz of games like demon souls. i wish it had mic support but it didnt, thats the only reason why i wanted it in the first place lol
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#17 GAM3-0V3R
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Yeah its a good feature but I won't miss it. Never really used it all that much like 10 mins here or there. I read about it on here already and the ps vita is getting it. Not a big deal for me.
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#18 WR_Platinum
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I wonder now what will be the most highly requested feature now that this has FINALLY been confirmed.

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Only thing to do is hope that its on the PS4.
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#20 Chaos_Bladez
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I wonder when they found this out. It would have been cool to know when they knew, assuming it was a while ago (which it probably was). I always felt the PS3 should have this feature but I guess it makes the next console that much better. I wouldn't necessarily use it that much but I know a lot of people would have so it would have been a plus.
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#21 blabbyboy
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Dosen't ps3 have more ram than the xbox?
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#22 MC-Reap
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Wait...PS3 only has 256 for video memory? LOL. Wow. Welcome to 2003 Sony. What the heck.
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#23 ness4215
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disappointed big time, i hate having my 360 running at the same time i play the ps3, room gets hot fast >.
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I wonder now what will be the most highly requested feature now that this has FINALLY been confirmed.

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According to the share.blog it's PS2 emulation.
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#25 MushroomWig
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Dosen't ps3 have more ram than the xbox?blabbyboy
Both consoles have 512mb ram but for some reason the ps3 has it's RAM split.
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#26 cooldust
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I always knew this feature wasnt coming, couldnt they give us party chat while disabling the XMB? That could work... No? Either way its not really a feature i want, the only reason i want them to implement this is so people stop asking for it.. :p
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[QUOTE="MethodManFTW"]Here a link.. Couldn't post in OP for some reason.. Original credit to Eurogamer.. http://zoknowsgaming.com/2011/08/19/crossgame-chat-ps3-gonna-happen-sony-finally-admits/

Honestly don't care. I'm too busy playing awesome games.
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#28 MC-Reap
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I am just still completely dumbfounded that either company thought 512 for ram was enough. I won't touch a computer unless it has at least 4 GIGS of ram. It just seems necessary...How does a PS3 even play games?
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#29 jocaju
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I am just still completely dumbfounded that either company thought 512 for ram was enough. I won't touch a computer unless it has at least 4 GIGS of ram. It just seems necessary...How does a PS3 even play games? MC-Reap
The thing is, you can't compare a PC RAM with game system RAM. The PC need lots of RAM for the OS (windows/linux) and the many programs that you use. On PS3, you have one game running at time and some online running on the background, so it doesn't need that much RAM.
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#30 jcopp72
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i dont care much aboiut iot, but the PS4 will probably have it.
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#31 MC-Reap
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[QUOTE="MC-Reap"]I am just still completely dumbfounded that either company thought 512 for ram was enough. I won't touch a computer unless it has at least 4 GIGS of ram. It just seems necessary...How does a PS3 even play games? jocaju
The thing is, you can't compare a PC RAM with game system RAM. The PC need lots of RAM for the OS (windows/linux) and the many programs that you use. On PS3, you have one game running at time and some online running on the background, so it doesn't need that much RAM.

I understand that. I just don't get that I'm playing some of the same games on PC that I play on PS3, and on the PC it needs at least 1gb of video memory alone to work. How does the same game function on the PS3 and still look decent?
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#32 JohnF111
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[QUOTE="jocaju"][QUOTE="MC-Reap"]I am just still completely dumbfounded that either company thought 512 for ram was enough. I won't touch a computer unless it has at least 4 GIGS of ram. It just seems necessary...How does a PS3 even play games? MC-Reap
The thing is, you can't compare a PC RAM with game system RAM. The PC need lots of RAM for the OS (windows/linux) and the many programs that you use. On PS3, you have one game running at time and some online running on the background, so it doesn't need that much RAM.

I understand that. I just don't get that I'm playing some of the same games on PC that I play on PS3, and on the PC it needs at least 1gb of video memory alone to work. How does the same game function on the PS3 and still look decent?

Optimization, on PC you just cannot get optimization like a console. They design most games to work on a console by reaching out to every resource available and making the most use of this resource they can, on PC there are so many resources like you say 1Gb video memory alone plus system RAM.
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#33 Mr_Ditters
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I used this feature on the 360 a lot. We would start a group and chat and totally avoid all of the screaming little kids. It was really nice.

Cross game chat would have been nice when playing Demons souls with friends. If Dark Souls doesnt have a chat system built into the game, the lack of xgame chat will make the 360 version much better.

But whatever, I'm a PC gamer now. If I want to chat I can just run a ventrillo server. I would have cared maybe a year ago.

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It would be a nice feature but I hardly ever use my mic so I'm not bothered.

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#35 Laser_Hunter
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[QUOTE="JoKeR_421"][QUOTE="MethodManFTW"][QUOTE="JoKeR_421"] lol im just saying that, that isnt or shouldnt be the NUMBER ONE feature lol.....theres other things that are more important that that u dig?

eh, i would say all that is subjective as to far as what is really most important, but cross game chat is objectively #1 on the playstation.blog share site.. but yeah, it would of been nice to have, but i would hope this news wouldnt surprise anyone after like 5 years or however long the ps3 has been out by now.

i doubt it will. i mean its been soo long that we havent heard or seen anything about the cross-game chat, that ppl started to drift off , im sure theres a good amount of ppl who are disappointed or are let down by sony. who knows maybe sony is working around it somehow ....but oh well man, this thign doesnt effect me. although i do admit with u it would of been good to have, u know why? cuz of games like demon souls. i wish it had mic support but it didnt, thats the only reason why i wanted it in the first place lol

The devs would have restricted it in Demon's Souls.... they are restricting it for Dark Souls on the other console so even though it has the capability to, it can't.
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I thought cross game chat was available on Playstation Plus?
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#37 MAILER_DAEMON
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I thought cross game chat was available on Playstation Plus?Spellingiscool
It was a rumored feature, but no.