Dark Souls Producer Hopes That Players Never Complete The Game

So what you guys say about this?

http://thesilentchief.com/2011/03/13/dark-souls-producer-hopes-that-players-never-complete-the-game/

In a eight page interview featured in the April issue of Edge Magazine, Dark Souls producer/director/game designer Hidetaka Miyazaki shared new information about the game's story, multiple endings and the "Third World" that is Dark Souls.

Huh, voice chat ommited again... at least he's doing it for a reasonable... reason.

Going by the thread title, what the hell has gaming come to?

Oh, and nice sig and avy Scianix, I barely recognized you. No Bayonetta love, or was it just time to move on?

I did never beat Demons Souls........

That's themain reason I don't want to ever play this game or Demon's Souls, it's not worth my time when I can be having actual 'fun' with many other games.

That's themain reason I don't want to ever play this game or Demon's Souls, it's not worth my time when I can be having actual 'fun' with many other games.

Venom_Raptor

Some people enjoy a challenge and the game most certainly isn't for everyone. I can understand your perspective though I don't agree with it.

Awesome, I look forward to the challenge. I'm sick of all these pushover games that have no learning curve to them.

Awesome, I look forward to the challenge. I'm sick of all these pushover games that have no learning curve to them.

J-Man725

He's not saying the game will be too hard to complete, he hopes that people won't want to complete it & will have their character live in the world forever... O_o ... i don't see the incentive in doing that though especially for the first playthrough, & if there's new game+ again.

bad ending am confirmed :Pcampzor

Oh man I hope not, that was the one disappointment of Demon's Souls - the ending. Praying that Dark Souls has an epic finish.

This has to be the only developers who don't care about sales.

This has to be the only developers who don't care about sales.

DevilishStyles

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I can't f****** wait.

*does The Rock's 'Just Bring It' gesture*

I did never beat Demons Souls........

Wolfetan

"If the mind becomes to far gone then the character will become a zombie or monster. That is what you are fighting against in the game; this curse of not being able to face death."

I have a good feeling about this piece of information.. hope this means that if and _when_ you are too far gone in the game, you actually become one of the monsters that other players have to beat in order to survive themselves. This would mean the difficulty rises with each passing day the game is out there =) Other players could stay in the world to make it harder for others etc.

And also that each character has individual goals to complete, sounds very nice and gives a lot of replayability if the class really matters this time around. Can't wait for Dark Souls to be released even though I still have to complete Demon's Souls too.

Well, they will get their wish with me. I never plan on buying it, so completing the game will be impossible.

Well, they will get their wish with me. I never plan on buying it, so completing the game will be impossible.

yokofox33

[QUOTE="DevilishStyles"]

This has to be the only developers who don't care about sales.

Swift_Boss_A

But it doesn't change the fact that they lost loads of sales, no matter if they make a profit, the end result is that they would have made lots more making the game with difficulty settings to choose from.

Awesome, I look forward to the challenge. I'm sick of all these pushover games that have no learning curve to them.

J-Man725

I'm with you. I absolutely loved Demon's Souls and hope that Dark Souls is even more difficult.

[QUOTE="yokofox33"]

Well, they will get their wish with me. I never plan on buying it, so completing the game will be impossible.

bblundell

Kara is the left one. Brown Eyed Girls (BEG) are on the right.

But it doesn't change the fact that they lost loads of sales, no matter if they make a profit, the end result is that they would have made lots more making the game with difficulty settings to choose from.

Venom_Raptor

If they included difficulty settings or made the game a lot easier I bet all the Demon's Souls fans out there (myself included) would be in uproar. If there's anything worse than not catering to the everyday gamer, it's going against the wishes of your already established fanbase. Just take a glimpse at the reaction to the new SSX: Deadly Descent trailer for an example.

[QUOTE="Venom_Raptor"]

But it doesn't change the fact that they lost loads of sales, no matter if they make a profit, the end result is that they would have made lots more making the game with difficulty settings to choose from.

TheLordHimself

If they included difficulty settings or made the game a lot easier I bet all the Demon's Souls fans out there (myself included) would be in uproar. If there's anything worse than not catering to the everyday gamer, it's going against the wishes of your already established fanbase. Just take a glimpse at the reaction to the new SSX: Deadly Descent trailer for an example.

I was definitely in the "I'm not getting it because it's too difficult" crowd and then I couldn't resist the $19.99 price point and the great reviews it has gotten. I agree that upsetting the fan base is not a great move. I'm glad that Dark Souls is not apologizingfor the difficulty it's going tocontain.Also, (and maybe I'm saying this because I'm still early in the game) but Demon's Souls IS difficult, but not impossible. I think that's part of the game's beauty is that it doesn't play by YOUR rules and doesn't hide the fact that's it's complex. I'm addicted to it even though I'm gettingmybutt kicked over and over again. I would much rather get value for the money I spend rather than finishing a game in one sitting.

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*does The Rock's 'Just Bring It' gesture*

parvie

Going by the thread title, what the hell has gaming come to?

Oh, and nice sig and avy Scianix, I barely recognized you. No Bayonetta love, or was it just time to move on?

Blabadon

No no no, I still love Bayonetta, but my sig got modded one day and I can't care enough to really fix it up again.

Misleading title is misleading. "But the endgame is not really the focus at all. In a sense I dare not require a player to complete the game. There is a completion point but it's a game where the user canchoose not to complete it, just live in this world for eternity." It's just saying there's no actual "ending" really and that it sort of just continues on (just like Demon's Souls).

"There is a completion point but it's a game where the user can choose not to complete it, just live in this world for eternity."

You can just have a save point right before the final boss, and also they should just make the game world still available no matter what the outcome. He aslo says playing it for an "eternity", does that mean that the game world will grow like an MMO or something?

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spawnassasin

beat me to it. :P

[QUOTE="Wolfetan"]

I did never beat Demons Souls........

Solid_Tango

You got to the last boss and couldn't stab it a few times to end the game? The final boss is pretty much the definition of a pushover.

I will complete it and love it

[QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"][QUOTE="DevilishStyles"]

This has to be the only developers who don't care about sales.

Venom_Raptor

But it doesn't change the fact that they lost loads of sales, no matter if they make a profit, the end result is that they would have made lots more making the game with difficulty settings to choose from.

I actually kind of doubt it. I feel that the only reason Demon's Souls attracted so much attention was because of it's difficulty. If it had difficulty settings like other normal games, I can bet that the game actually would have sold less.

[QUOTE="spawnassasin"]

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Koi-Neon-X

*does The Rock's 'Just Bring It' gesture*

parvie

Haha this, only reason i started playing Demon Souls (not that i didn't liek it, luved it) but i wanted to test my gaming skills/will.

Not a good thing tho, gamers want to beat games (obviously) its a sense of great accomplishment.Hope its not too hard.

[QUOTE="Venom_Raptor"]

But it doesn't change the fact that they lost loads of sales, no matter if they make a profit, the end result is that they would have made lots more making the game with difficulty settings to choose from.

If they included difficulty settings or made the game a lot easier I bet all the Demon's Souls fans out there (myself included) would be in uproar. If there's anything worse than not catering to the everyday gamer, it's going against the wishes of your already established fanbase. Just take a glimpse at the reaction to the new SSX: Deadly Descent trailer for an example.

[QUOTE="Venom_Raptor"]

Trust me they care about sales but it seems they are catering to a different crowd then the norm. I am actually really glad that Namco/From Software are very up front with the game, either that or they are using reserve psychology. Usually devs want to be politically correct and try to aim a title to everyone which is nonsense because you are doing a disservice to the title and of course a game can't appeal to everyone, un less we are speaking about the Wii. Anyway the devs already have a fan base with Demon's Souls and they were very happy with the sales of that title, seeing as how this one will be multiplat I am sure the sales will be plenty-full.Swift_Boss_A

But it doesn't change the fact that they lost loads of sales, no matter if they make a profit, the end result is that they would have made lots more making the game with difficulty settings to choose from.

I actually kind of doubt it. I feel that the only reason Demon's Souls attracted so much attention was because of it's difficulty. If it had difficulty settings like other normal games, I can bet that the game actually would have sold less.

But it doesn't change the fact that they lost loads of sales, no matter if they make a profit, the end result is that they would have made lots more making the game with difficulty settings to choose from.Venom_Raptor

I'm just not going to play this.

I've still havn't beaten Demon Souls, so what are the odds on buying Dark Souls then?

If it's worth playing, I'll finish it.....and if it's as fun as Demon's Souls I platinum it too. I'm all for a challenge aslong as the diffculty isn't cheap. Demon's Souls never felt cheap.

I always did slide that [slider] down in oblivion and fallout..

This was at the bottom of the interview >PS3 in Japan only?< North America/EU in 2012??

""Dark Souls is set for a worldwide release later this year on the PS3 and 360 ( PS3 only in Japan )""