David Hayter Critical of Some MGS Moments and begged Konami to change the ending

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Solid Snake voice actor David Hayter was surprisingly candid at Anime Expo's centerpiece guest-of-honor panel, where he admitted to being frustrated at times with Metal Gear Solid series director Hideo Kojima's over-the-top scriptwriting and direction. He specifically called out the suicide scene highlighted in Metal Gear Solid 4trailers, saying that Snake, a man who's killed thousands, shouldn't flinch at pulling the trigger on himself. "I didn't agree with that at all, and I begged them to change it, but I think it's still in the final game," he said. "I didn't buy it at all. I think it's weak for Snake to be killing other people and then not be able to kill himself when it's time. If he knows it's time, then it's time."

He also mentioned some moments that happened in MGS1 that felt unnecessary and and that the alternative ending cause some problems to voice actors and how the part with him escaping with Otacon felt like a romantic moment.

I agree that the ending was overdone and it should have ended with Snake pulling the trigger but it seems Kojima felt it was necessary to do so, I like the ending but it took along time to finish.

What do you think?

Do you also Agree, or happy with the ending?

Ending is ok.

it shows snake redeeming itself.

Why shouldn't he hesitate, this is his own life he's taking. Even though Snake has killed thousands (although if you tranq everyone...), anyways even though he as killed he still hesitates. Remember back in the first game at the end when Gray Fox tells him to shoot Liquid, Snake hesistates cause he doesn't want to hurt his best friend.

In MGS4 while Raiden is fighting Vamp, if you point your gun up he does the same thing repeating the same line "Ugh I can't do it" and hestitates to shoot, of course if you shot it'd mess up the cutscene but still.

Ending was fine, leaves room for...MGS5: Retirement Home

I was happy with the ending.theycallmeryan

I like the ending, besides it showed Snakes human side. If he did kill himself it would have just proved that Snake has no emotions but he clearly does. Anyway he had no reason to kill himself because the new foxdie in his body stopped the old foxdie from turning Snake it a bilogical weapon or something. Big Boss came at the right time to explain to Snake that he has no reason to kill himself and he should live the remainder of his life not as a Snake but as a human being, as David :D

it's just namoi told snake at the end of metal gear solid 1, "to live". BW, i think namoi is one of the dumbest characters ever......she injects fox die into snake to seek revenge for killing grey fox, but then in mgs4 she sides with the person who killed im a second time??? WTF??? I don't even see why she showed so much remorse for vamp either, its like she didn't care that *spoilers* he killed otocons sister. firebreathing

im with you man i hate her! so stupid! and it makes me soo mad to hear otacon crying over her... god! get a grip!

but then on the other hand didnt she do what she did because she had to? in order to give the virus to sunny?

[QUOTE="firebreathing"]it's just namoi told snake at the end of metal gear solid 1, "to live". BW, i think namoi is one of the dumbest characters ever......she injects fox die into snake to seek revenge for killing grey fox, but then in mgs4 she sides with the person who killed im a second time??? WTF??? I don't even see why she showed so much remorse for vamp either, its like she didn't care that *spoilers* he killed otocons sister. mistergamer2006

im with you man i hate her! so stupid! and it makes me soo mad to hear otacon crying over her... god! get a grip!

but then on the other hand didnt she do what she did because she had to? in order to give the virus to sunny?

Im happy with the ending. Also, she shows remose for vamp because she made him 'immortal'.

I think to show Snake shooting himself would of been a horrible ending!!ShamrockRovers

I agree... anyway, I think Snake's hesitation emphasizes the depth of his character... that there's a lot going on inside him during this time that he's not vocalizing. Or perhaps that his mission had somehow affected his viewpoint on many things, or that it had broadened his perspective.

As far as the story is concerned, I think it was self-consciously complicated and that they could've afforded to trim the dialogue a bit... but really, it's the melodrama and such that sortof put me off a bit, and the heavy-handedness of the storytelling... that any point that Hideo Kojima felt the need to make, he felt the need to beat you over the head with it and spell it out. Subtlety is one of the premier skills a storyteller can possess, and Hideo Kojima clearly lacks it.

All that being said, it was a phenomenal game and, shortcomings aside, I did enjoy the story.

[QUOTE="ShamrockRovers"]I think to show Snake shooting himself would of been a horrible ending!!Generic_Dude

I agree... anyway, I think Snake's hesitation emphasizes the depth of his character... that there's a lot going on inside him during this time that he's not vocalizing. Or perhaps that his mission had somehow affected his viewpoint on many things, or that it had broadened his perspective.

As far as the story is concerned, I think it was self-consciously complicated and that they could've afforded to trim the dialogue a bit... but really, it's the melodrama and such that sortof put me off a bit, and the heavy-handedness of the storytelling... that any point that Hideo Kojima felt the need to make, he felt the need to beat you over the head with it and spell it out. Subtlety is one of the premier skills a storyteller can possess, and Hideo Kojima clearly lacks it.

All that being said, it was a phenomenal game and, shortcomings aside, I did enjoy the story.

I think the wackiness of everything gives kojima's games a weird charm. Like they are serious but not too serious.

[spoiler] I also think though that the ending represents his will to live and change the way he lives. Everyone that sacrificed themselves for him wanted him to live. It was kinda like saying he deserves to live after all the good he has done for the world. Plus with the virus' mutation he wouldn't be a threat to everyone he cared about anymore. If he was he'd prolly kill himself after big boss died. [/spoiler]

tc put some spoiler warning in the title.sa10kun

The present title is enough to let people know there will be spoilers in the article.