DC Universe and MAG a mistake?

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#1 MikeJMele
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I was just wondering if games that only offer online game play and are totally void of any type of single and/or multiplayer campaigns are a mistake. I'm not knocking either of the above mentioned titles, honestly I have never played them, they were the only examples I could think of for my question.

There are many games that offer online play, however we all know based on how well the game performs determines whether or not the servers remain up, thus making it possible to even play it online or not. Depending on when you decide to get into the game, you may not have much of an opportunity to play it before they shut it down, leaving it a barren virtual world. Also, what about resale value, if the servers are shut down then there's no real reason to buy the game, is there?

I may be completely ignorant in regard to the whole situation, I am really just wondering. Any advice and or feedback would be appreciated.

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#2 Nike_Air
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I play Warhawk and MAG all the time and I already got my monies worth. I don't care about resale value. If they shut down the servers or I can't set up my own games , I'll just move on.

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#3 parvie
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Warhawk was incredible--one of my favorites in my collection

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#4 MikeJMele
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A couple of people have told me about Warhawks, and I must admit it sounds interesting. This may sound like a crazy question, but would you compare MAG to Call of Duty or is it something completely different?

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#5 CaptainAhab13
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MAG is completely different from COD in so, so many ways. The gameplay, the feel of the weaponry and environments, the scope of the environments, the sheer amount you can do to complement your team, the build of your character, the fact that you actually BUILD a character, the objectives.... everything. Completely different. Much more team-oriented.

Also, it wasn't a mistake, the game is still thriving, along with Warhawk.

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#6 gamenerd15
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DC Universe is supposed be Sony Online Entertainment's fastest selling game, so I don't think it is going anywhere. MAG sold pretty well worldwide considering how much hate there was for the game prerelease.

According to VGchartz Mag has sold 1.19 million worldwide. http://gamrreview.vgchartz.com/sales/35119/mag-massive-action-game/

No it wasn't as successful as Call of Duty or World of Warcraft. There has to be fanbase large enough so that servers don't get shut down. I also heard that DC universe got sold out in certain places, but I don't know. If Sony is happy with it, then I assume the servers won't be shut down. So what if it gets shut down after 5 years? I doubt anyone is going to care about MAG in 5 years. But who knows. I don't think any of sony's games that have online have been shutdown. Warhawk is still going. Resistance 2 is still going. Demon's Souls is still going despite rumblings of server closings. If there is one thing you can count on Sony for, it is support. This is one area, where the other 2 comapanies fail. So if your into the games, buy them. I am sure MAG is cheap. You could probably pick it up for almost dirt cheap online. It's about $20 for a new copy and $12 for a used copy at amazon.

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#7 creeping-deth87
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I don't have a problem with multiplayer only games, hell I'd actually prefer if there were more online only shooters as shooter campaigns in general are pretty lackluster most of the time. There are a few exceptions to that of course. Unfortunately, most of the multiplayer-only offerings I've tried I've been pretty disappointed with. I wasn't a fan of Warhawk and SOCOM Confrontation was absolute garbage from day one. I haven't tried MAG or DC Universe, so I can't speak for those. In short, the only multiplayer-only game I've ever really loved is Counter-Strike. It's possible, but most offerings out there seem to fall flat on their faces.
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#8 -ArchAngeL-777-
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No these aren't mistakes. 1) DCU is the fastest selling Sony MMO ever. 2) As an MMO, DCU will constantly make $15 a month of each subscriber. The style of play has been addicting to a lot of folks and new content will be rolling out starting this month. It looks like a success so far. 3) MAG was as much a concept as anything. Zipper wanted to show it could work and it did. The sales were pretty strong for it, and they have some minor monthly income from people paying to retain up to two extra characters on the server. It seems to have enough of a following to keep rolling for a while. Zipper could be working on a MAG 2 based on what they learned off of this one.
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#9 SamuRai_JeDi
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Not at all. Completely focusing on the multiplayer aspect in a game doesn't hinder the game what so ever. I'd rather have a fully focused online experience than a lack-luster campaign. Online only games are a different type of game. The devs make these games for a reason, they are in a different class. It's not that I don't love campaigns in games, but online gaming is the future.
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#10 big_simple_man
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yup they are a mistake.
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#11 LeifLongbottom
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Warhawk was incredible--one of my favorites in my collection

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Mine too and I still play it often.

And while I got my money's worth from that game, I think that any game that is online only and does not have a single player component, should be cheaper because it does have that expiration date that single player games don't have. One day, that disc will be useless and it doesn't matter if people still play it.

Look at Halo... 2 was it? The one that shut down a year or two ago and the die-hards stayed logged in so they couldn't shut down the server.

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#12 MrSelf-Destruct
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As long as the people want a game that is nothing but multiplayer then I see nothing wrong with it. A lot of people hate RTS games, but they still make them cause a lot of people love them, too. And honestly I'd rather pay for an online only game than pay for a game that I thought I was going to get a good single player out of only to realize it was simply tacked on for the sake of having a single player. I guess you couls say MAG and Warhawk are keeping it "real." :P
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DC Universe is supposed be Sony Online Entertainment's fastest selling game, so I don't think it is going anywhere. MAG sold pretty well worldwide considering how much hate there was for the game prerelease.

According to VGchartz Mag has sold 1.19 million worldwide. http://gamrreview.vgchartz.com/sales/35119/mag-massive-action-game/

No it wasn't as successful as Call of Duty or World of Warcraft. There has to be fanbase large enough so that servers don't get shut down. I also heard that DC universe got sold out in certain places, but I don't know. If Sony is happy with it, then I assume the servers won't be shut down. So what if it gets shut down after 5 years? I doubt anyone is going to care about MAG in 5 years. But who knows. I don't think any of sony's games that have online have been shutdown. Warhawk is still going. Resistance 2 is still going. Demon's Souls is still going despite rumblings of server closings. If there is one thing you can count on Sony for, it is support. This is one area, where the other 2 comapanies fail. So if your into the games, buy them. I am sure MAG is cheap. You could probably pick it up for almost dirt cheap online. It's about $20 for a new copy and $12 for a used copy at amazon.

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Resistance 1 still have it's servers up?
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#14 gamenerd15
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[QUOTE="gamenerd15"]

DC Universe is supposed be Sony Online Entertainment's fastest selling game, so I don't think it is going anywhere. MAG sold pretty well worldwide considering how much hate there was for the game prerelease.

According to VGchartz Mag has sold 1.19 million worldwide. http://gamrreview.vgchartz.com/sales/35119/mag-massive-action-game/

No it wasn't as successful as Call of Duty or World of Warcraft. There has to be fanbase large enough so that servers don't get shut down. I also heard that DC universe got sold out in certain places, but I don't know. If Sony is happy with it, then I assume the servers won't be shut down. So what if it gets shut down after 5 years? I doubt anyone is going to care about MAG in 5 years. But who knows. I don't think any of sony's games that have online have been shutdown. Warhawk is still going. Resistance 2 is still going. Demon's Souls is still going despite rumblings of server closings. If there is one thing you can count on Sony for, it is support. This is one area, where the other 2 comapanies fail. So if your into the games, buy them. I am sure MAG is cheap. You could probably pick it up for almost dirt cheap online. It's about $20 for a new copy and $12 for a used copy at amazon.

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Resistance 1 still have it's servers up?

Haven't checked. All I am saying is that Sony supports its games longer than the other 2 companies. Not to bring in other systems, but Nintendo was canceling production of games that were barely a year old, (Excitebots and Warioland) Microsoft dropped the original xbox 2 months after 360 came out. (Back on topic) PS2 games like Socom were still being supported even after PS3 came out. Even if Sony has dropped Resistance 1, it is a launch game, when R3 comes out, the first game will have been out for about 5 years. MAG and DC will be fine. MAG sold pretty good for a January launch title and right before Mass Effect 2. SOE already said that DC Universe was their fastest selling game, so I doubt that they are going to cancel the servers. People are playing it despite all of its problems.

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#15 Ninja_Zombie83
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Of course its not a mistake. Both games sold enough to carry on the statement that a multiplayer only game can do well. Quite frankly, I don't see how it COULD be concidered a mistake.
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#16 Ratchet_Fan8
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problem with MAG: Not many support left,only die-hard supporters are left in the game,just like in KZ2 Probelm with DCUO:Many PS3 gamers are not used to Console MMOs,subs,glitches,content and loads more.It will take some time,but believe me.DCUO is more succesful than MAG...In my eyez.
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#17 Megavideogamer
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Games like DC Universe, MAG and Warhawk and Socom Confrontation (Games that only work On-line) are nothing new to the World of Playstation.

With the PS2 there was Final Fantasy 11 and Everquest On-line Adventures.

So having a game that only works on-line is a mistake? The only way to know is if any of these games made their money back?

Considering that the Disc itself is useless without the internet. These games are useless once the servers go down. I am not personally fond of games such as these.

But if they made money I guess there was no mistake.

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#18 CaptainAhab13
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Games like DC Universe, MAG and Warhawk and Socom Confrontation (Games that only work On-line) are nothing new to the World of Playstation.

With the PS2 there was Final Fantasy 11 and Everquest On-line Adventures.

So having a game that only works on-line is a mistake? The only way to know is if any of these games made their money back?

Considering that the Disc itself is useless without the internet. These games are useless once the servers go down. I am not personally fond of games such as these.

But if they made money I guess there was no mistake.

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Ooooooh, now I see your argument! You don't like games that basically become useless once the servers go down. Fair argument. Still, I get more out of them than most singleplayer-only games. :|
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#19 destinhpark
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Dc Universe Online = Mistake.

MAG = NOT a mistake.

I bought DC Universe because I really was looking forward to it, and still the only MMO I can ever enjoy is WoW. DC Universe sucked so bad, the most bland and repetitive quests EVER, awful framerate, just... bad. Maybe it will get better through patches and DLC in the future, but for now... Ugh.

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#20 ultraking
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DC universe- big mistake

MAG - super awesome

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#21 Sokol4ever
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None of the two games are mistake in any way. They both offer different experiences on console and successfully found their target audience, DC Universe especially.

MAG still has plenty of player online, I don't understand why they would be mistakes.

Both games co-exist with large gaming PS3 library that only add more diversity.