deny it all you want, the PS3 IS pushing bluray to the top.

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#1 joevfx
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http://crave.cnet.com/8301-1_105-9696987-1.html?tag=blgs

really cool read,  especially when it talks about the departed.

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Built in Blu-Ray definately does help.
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i think it helps more in terms of storage for games than movies
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Sony's gonnas see some serious coinage on those BluRays the word is they're gonna get 10 cents for every BluRay ever sold. Thats like 10 cents for every film sold for the next 10 years. Not bad for losing 200 on a each system
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I thought from the get go that the Ps3, and the 360 on the HD-DVD side, would be major catalysts in bringing next-gen home video into the mainstream.  I'd also be curious to see how sales of HDTVs have been affected by the release of the new consoles.  How many threads have you seen on these forums alone titled "I got my HDTV!"  Just as the PS2 snuck a DVD player into everyone's home, the PS3 will do the same for Blu-ray.  
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Why do people care which format 'wins". What does this "war" have anything to do with your daily life. Enjoy both formats, and buy a standalone player of the appropriate format when things get sorted out. Just doesn't make sense to get excited over a media war.
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Why do people care which format 'wins". What does this "war" have anything to do with your daily life. Enjoy both formats, and buy a standalone player of the appropriate format when things get sorted out. Just doesn't make sense to get excited over a media war.BroweChisox

well, i rather want a good format to win, then just a dvd 1.5

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No when you buy a movie on a format you wanna know you're buying the right one that'll last the long haul. People just wanna know that they made the right choice when it comes to media. It's like buying games, you wanna know that the system you bought is gonna last the long haul. Thats all.
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Well, while we talk about what lasts long, the blu-ray definitely lasts for a long while.  Man, that is so kick ass that the blu-ray is getting some recognition.
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By the time one format falls away, if that ever happens, a decent player will be around $100. You can keep you old player to watch old movies too... I dont think people should be worried about movies lasting the 'long haul'. They are just $30 dollars movies... pretty replaceable.
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No when you buy a movie on a format you wanna know you're buying the right one that'll last the long haul. People just wanna know that they made the right choice when it comes to media. It's like buying games, you wanna know that the system you bought is gonna last the long haul. Thats all.pimperjones
good answer, but gamers that are purely into games doesn't really care, they can live with disc swap. Older adult will cares because they're not only want to play games, they want the whole package.
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[QUOTE="pimperjones"]No when you buy a movie on a format you wanna know you're buying the right one that'll last the long haul. People just wanna know that they made the right choice when it comes to media. It's like buying games, you wanna know that the system you bought is gonna last the long haul. Thats all.zhuojloh
good answer, but gamers that are purely into games doesn't really care, they can live with disc swap. Older adult will cares because they're not only want to play games, they want the whole package.

I hope most adults did not buy the PS3 as a blu-ray player. Maybe a temporary one, but the second gen players will destroy the PS3 in terms of blu-ray playback. The system is a great way for younger customers to get a decent player (note: currently one of the better players), and a video games system at the same time. But people with more money to spend who are looking for the best wouldn't be picking up the ps3 for movie playback, especially since dvd playback is abysmal.
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Yup it think the Ps3 is pushing a lot of the sales of blu-ray. I heard the sales 2 to 1 between blu-ray and HD-DvD. Considering that the only other blu ray players are 1000 and above, it has got to be the PS3 driving those sales. Now i think Sony has slashed their prices for Hdtv LCD screens so i think that is going to help a lot.
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[QUOTE="zhuojloh"][QUOTE="pimperjones"]No when you buy a movie on a format you wanna know you're buying the right one that'll last the long haul. People just wanna know that they made the right choice when it comes to media. It's like buying games, you wanna know that the system you bought is gonna last the long haul. Thats all.BroweChisox
good answer, but gamers that are purely into games doesn't really care, they can live with disc swap. Older adult will cares because they're not only want to play games, they want the whole package.

I hope most adults did not buy the PS3 as a blu-ray player. Maybe a temporary one, but the second gen players will destroy the PS3 in terms of blu-ray playback. The system is a great way for younger customers to get a decent player (note: currently one of the better players), and a video games system at the same time. But people with more money to spend who are looking for the best wouldn't be picking up the ps3 for movie playback, especially since dvd playback is abysmal.

I don't think anyone is gonna use the PS3 for BluRay in the long haul, it's just a test medium. Just like when I bought the PS2 I wanted to experience the new DVD medium and the PS2 was a great way to test out the waters before the stand alone players become affordable. Everyone knows that Rom drives wear out with over use, so he PS3 to most is just the beginning of BluRay untill a cheaper more reliable altarnative comes along.
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[QUOTE="BroweChisox"][QUOTE="zhuojloh"][QUOTE="pimperjones"]No when you buy a movie on a format you wanna know you're buying the right one that'll last the long haul. People just wanna know that they made the right choice when it comes to media. It's like buying games, you wanna know that the system you bought is gonna last the long haul. Thats all.pimperjones
good answer, but gamers that are purely into games doesn't really care, they can live with disc swap. Older adult will cares because they're not only want to play games, they want the whole package.

I hope most adults did not buy the PS3 as a blu-ray player. Maybe a temporary one, but the second gen players will destroy the PS3 in terms of blu-ray playback. The system is a great way for younger customers to get a decent player (note: currently one of the better players), and a video games system at the same time. But people with more money to spend who are looking for the best wouldn't be picking up the ps3 for movie playback, especially since dvd playback is abysmal.

I don't think anyone is gonna use the PS3 for BluRay in the long haul, it's just a test medium. Just like when I bought the PS2 I wanted to experience the new DVD medium and the PS2 was a great way to test out the waters before the stand alone players become affordable. Everyone knows that Rom drives wear out with over use, so he PS3 to most is just the beginning of BluRay untill a cheaper more reliable altarnative comes along.

The Blu-Ray drive is very attractive. A new format for media which can deliver much more than any medium out in the market at the moment will definitely get some attention. You can think of the possibility in the future. I guess my point is... When investing in new technology, you want to make sure it is future proof .

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hmm i'm sitting out this media war.. i'm going for br.. but i don't think we should all believe hddvd will soon be out of the race.
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I thought from the get go that the Ps3, and the 360 on the HD-DVD side, would be major catalysts in bringing next-gen home video into the mainstream.  I'd also be curious to see how sales of HDTVs have been affected by the release of the new consoles.  How many threads have you seen on these forums alone titled "I got my HDTV!"  Just as the PS2 snuck a DVD player into everyone's home, the PS3 will do the same for Blu-ray.  Laza-rus

the 360 HDDVD has pretty much no affect on how well HD DVD sales went, minimal if at all any.

I dont believe MS has any interest in Blu ray or HD DVD. it seems like the went with HD DVD out of the pure fact the the ps3 was blu ray

if you want to get an idea of how well each format is doing, take a movie that is available on both and 9 out 10 movies you chose, the blu ray version will be higher in the chart

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[QUOTE="Laza-rus"]I thought from the get go that the Ps3, and the 360 on the HD-DVD side, would be major catalysts in bringing next-gen home video into the mainstream. I'd also be curious to see how sales of HDTVs have been affected by the release of the new consoles. How many threads have you seen on these forums alone titled "I got my HDTV!" Just as the PS2 snuck a DVD player into everyone's home, the PS3 will do the same for Blu-ray. Absynthetic

the 360 HDDVD has pretty much no affect on how well HD DVD sales went, minimal if at all any.

I dont believe MS has any interest in Blu ray or HD DVD. it seems like the went with HD DVD out of the pure fact the the ps3 was blu ray

if you want to get an idea of how well each format is doing, take a movie that is available on both and 9 out 10 movies you chose, the blu ray version will be higher in the chart

The HD-DVD drive also does not have an HDMI port... an essential piece of the next gen package.
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I'm kinda rooting for the death of HD-DVD. Sorry, but I have a Ps3 and want the majority of movies to be out on Blu-Ray.
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yeah it definitely does push bluray
people are going to start buying bluray movies instead of DVD is they have PS3 because they are HD
however, HD DVD doesnt really have this befinit since it doesnt come built into 360
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See what happens when you try to shaft Sony out of their 10 cents, Toshiba has learned some seriously lessons here. 1) Never try to shaft Sony on their hard earned dime. Because they will sacrifice 200 dollars per system just to get it back. 2) Never ever.ever trust Micro$oft, they will shaft you everytime. "Oh we will support HD DVD, but we will not include it in our consoles because we like the moneyyy.
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http://www.hdgamedb.com/amazon/versus.aspx
this has bluray - hddvd comparisons updated every 10 min.
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i think it helps more in terms of storage for games than moviesvip3r666
Movies in natural film format, is MUCH LARGER then any game that has been produced. Technically, not even blu-ray has enough to get full film quality. So be quiet.
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[QUOTE="zhuojloh"][QUOTE="pimperjones"]No when you buy a movie on a format you wanna know you're buying the right one that'll last the long haul. People just wanna know that they made the right choice when it comes to media. It's like buying games, you wanna know that the system you bought is gonna last the long haul. Thats all.BroweChisox
good answer, but gamers that are purely into games doesn't really care, they can live with disc swap. Older adult will cares because they're not only want to play games, they want the whole package.

I hope most adults did not buy the PS3 as a blu-ray player. Maybe a temporary one, but the second gen players will destroy the PS3 in terms of blu-ray playback. The system is a great way for younger customers to get a decent player (note: currently one of the better players), and a video games system at the same time. But people with more money to spend who are looking for the best wouldn't be picking up the ps3 for movie playback, especially since dvd playback is abysmal.

I don't agree with that - right now PS3 isn't one of the better deals for BD players, it's downright the BEST deal when it comes to Blu-Ray players if you're looking at it price to performance/features ratio. The playback quality of the HDMI enabled PS3 is superb, even the diehard people at certain Audio/Visual websites have agreed. I'm far from a diehard, but I like my movie viewing to be of good quality - so, for now PS3 will be my mainstream source of entertainment for my living area.
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[QUOTE="BroweChisox"][QUOTE="zhuojloh"][QUOTE="pimperjones"]No when you buy a movie on a format you wanna know you're buying the right one that'll last the long haul. People just wanna know that they made the right choice when it comes to media. It's like buying games, you wanna know that the system you bought is gonna last the long haul. Thats all.Primevil702
good answer, but gamers that are purely into games doesn't really care, they can live with disc swap. Older adult will cares because they're not only want to play games, they want the whole package.

I hope most adults did not buy the PS3 as a blu-ray player. Maybe a temporary one, but the second gen players will destroy the PS3 in terms of blu-ray playback. The system is a great way for younger customers to get a decent player (note: currently one of the better players), and a video games system at the same time. But people with more money to spend who are looking for the best wouldn't be picking up the ps3 for movie playback, especially since dvd playback is abysmal.

I don't agree with that - right now PS3 isn't one of the better deals for BD players, it's downright the BEST deal when it comes to Blu-Ray players if you're looking at it price to performance/features ratio. The playback quality of the HDMI enabled PS3 is superb, even the diehard people at certain Audio/Visual websites have agreed. I'm far from a diehard, but I like my movie viewing to be of good quality - so, for now PS3 will be my mainstream source of entertainment for my living area.

I think you are in the minority. A lot of people don't mind the $400 increase in price to get the best possible picture. It is all personal preference.
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http://crave.cnet.com/8301-1_105-9696987-1.html?tag=blgs

really cool read,  especially when it talks about the departed.

joevfx
I agree Blue -Ray is awsome i can't wait to buy a PS3.
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[QUOTE="vip3r666"]i think it helps more in terms of storage for games than moviesNickinAround
Movies in natural film format, is MUCH LARGER then any game that has been produced. Technically, not even blu-ray has enough to get full film quality. So be quiet.

How much clearer is film format than what's on HD tv? i'm curious
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[QUOTE="pimperjones"][QUOTE="BroweChisox"][QUOTE="zhuojloh"][QUOTE="pimperjones"]No when you buy a movie on a format you wanna know you're buying the right one that'll last the long haul. People just wanna know that they made the right choice when it comes to media. It's like buying games, you wanna know that the system you bought is gonna last the long haul. Thats all.Thomas-Crown

good answer, but gamers that are purely into games doesn't really care, they can live with disc swap. Older adult will cares because they're not only want to play games, they want the whole package.

I hope most adults did not buy the PS3 as a blu-ray player. Maybe a temporary one, but the second gen players will destroy the PS3 in terms of blu-ray playback. The system is a great way for younger customers to get a decent player (note: currently one of the better players), and a video games system at the same time. But people with more money to spend who are looking for the best wouldn't be picking up the ps3 for movie playback, especially since dvd playback is abysmal.

I don't think anyone is gonna use the PS3 for BluRay in the long haul, it's just a test medium. Just like when I bought the PS2 I wanted to experience the new DVD medium and the PS2 was a great way to test out the waters before the stand alone players become affordable. Everyone knows that Rom drives wear out with over use, so he PS3 to most is just the beginning of BluRay untill a cheaper more reliable altarnative comes along.

The Blu-Ray drive is very attractive. A new format for media which can deliver much more than any medium out in the market at the moment will definitely get some attention. You can think of the possibility in the future. I guess my point is... When investing in new technology, you want to make sure it is future proof .

I agree. before PS3, I was in need for a player that can play hi-def movies, at a point i'm even considering HD-DVD because of the it's headstart. But PS3 is just too good to be true. at $500 i can play games and watch hi-def movies and the review on PS3 blu-ray movies playback quality is remarkably superb. It make it a must buy for HDTV owner. It's a no brainer for me.
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See what happens when you try to shaft Sony out of their 10 cents, Toshiba has learned some seriously lessons here. 1) Never try to shaft Sony on their hard earned dime. Because they will sacrifice 200 dollars per system just to get it back. 2) Never ever.ever trust Micro$oft, they will shaft you everytime. "Oh we will support HD DVD, but we will not include it in our consoles because we like the moneyyy. pimperjones
MS didn't include the HD-DVD drive because they will adopt whatever format wins the war.
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i love bluray the disk box's r blue .  i have bought 16 bluray movies and got 1 free with my ps3.
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Why do people care which format 'wins". What does this "war" have anything to do with your daily life. Enjoy both formats, and buy a standalone player of the appropriate format when things get sorted out. Just doesn't make sense to get excited over a media war.BroweChisox
i care who wins cause i have a PS3 and i want JAWS on blu ray haha, som they have to win for universal to move over to them.
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[QUOTE="pimperjones"]See what happens when you try to shaft Sony out of their 10 cents, Toshiba has learned some seriously lessons here. 1) Never try to shaft Sony on their hard earned dime. Because they will sacrifice 200 dollars per system just to get it back. 2) Never ever.ever trust Micro$oft, they will shaft you everytime. "Oh we will support HD DVD, but we will not include it in our consoles because we like the moneyyy. dru26
MS didn't include the HD-DVD drive because they will adopt whatever format wins the war.

no they wont, microsoft backs is oen of the main backers of HD DVD they arent goin to put a competitors format in there system