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A 'generic plot' can be meant to say many things... the question is too open-ended. Can you elaborate?
Sure: Boy meets girl, girl gets kidnapped by evil villain(s), secret evil castle is found, bad guy defeated, girl and guy live happily ever after. That work? =pA 'generic plot' can be meant to say many things... the question is too open-ended. Can you elaborate?
commandercrap
Very much. I used not to, but nowwhen a game is full of MacGuffins that do not advance the plot itself, i simply lose interest.I don't mind helping out the occasional villager or orphan - lol - but i want to do that atno more than20% irrelevance rate. The plot IS often going to be generic in a JRPG, but when they include a lot of trivial stuff too... Final Fantasy 7 is still my favourite.
I don't mind generic plots in JRPGs (or games in generally really). It just depends how well-told it is. While not an RPG, one of the more recent examples is Uncharted 2. The base plot isn't very original, but the way they tell it makes it feel like it is.
As long as the characters are engaging I can forgive a generic plot as long as they throw in some surprising plot twists in there. I'm a sucker for deception, betrayal, and all that good stuff.
Also, this. I'm the same way.
Well, I do mind generic plots...
After 22 years of gaming, most of them dedicated to RPGs (W and J alike), you become so accostumed with the trivial stuff and the cliche, that an engaging, well woven story is more than welcome.
Truth be told though, not every game will be an epic adventure story-wise, so one does have to make consessions... but lets be honest here, what is an RPG without a fine story?
As I understand it, while the gaming consoles evolved, putting away more refined graphics, the plot was put aside...
If we all accept that Gameplay > Story, the RPG will eventually die to become some kind of action/adventure with a bit more of plot to be told (Like the Final Fantasy series recently...).
Boy meets girl, girl gets kidnapped by evil villain(s), secret evil castle is found, bad guy defeated, girl and guy live happily ever after. That work? =pProjectTrinity
You just described the first (of three) part of: Phantasy Star III - Generations of Doom. (Rhys meets Maia, who is abducted by a dragon during their wedding ceremony...)
That level of plot is just... well... too shallow.
Why is there no option saying 'Yes! I love generic plots!'? Mostly, I can live with generic plots. Hopefully good characters and/or good gameplay can make up for it. Case in point: Grandia 3.Sphire
I agree a bit there, but at least, even with all the cliche in Grandia 3, it was a relatively well told story.
It depends, but mostly no. If the characters a loveable and the story is presented well I might be able to enjoy a generic plot. I really enjoyed Lunar SSS and that game was unapologetically generic, but it had a great set of characters with plenty of stark and was presented well. however I feel like when It comes to the majority of JRPGs now It's the same game I was playing 10 years ago with better graphics and bad Voice acting. I'm really just tired of playing through the same game with a new skin.
I think it's all about the gameplay. I mean yeah Tales of Vesperia had a great story and fantastic characters but Demon's Souls said screw the story, immerse yourself in this world and DIE!!
My favorite JRPG series is the Ys series, the plots for most of the games are as generic as they get, but the gameplay MORE than makes up for that.
So I dont mind generic plots as long as its balanced out by the gameplay.
[QUOTE="commandercrap"]Sure: Boy meets girl, girl gets kidnapped by evil villain(s), secret evil castle is found, bad guy defeated, girl and guy live happily ever after. That work? =pA 'generic plot' can be meant to say many things... the question is too open-ended. Can you elaborate?
ProjectTrinity
LOL exactly like DMC4 but they already meant
Sure: Boy meets girl, girl gets kidnapped by evil villain(s), secret evil castle is found, bad guy defeated, girl and guy live happily ever after. That work? =p[QUOTE="ProjectTrinity"][QUOTE="commandercrap"]
A 'generic plot' can be meant to say many things... the question is too open-ended. Can you elaborate?
shadow13702
LOL exactly like DMC4 but they already meant
Now that I think on it, you're exactly right! :lol:All about the story.
Star Ocean's story is pretty generic, but it's been so long since I've played a good JRPG that I couldn't tell. I really like the characters more than the story itself. I'm also quite fond of the way Japanese people tend to tell their stories, as opposed to the Western sty-le.
The main reason I don't like JRPGs is because half of the stories are exactly the same give or take a twist or two.
"Oh no! the world is about to be destroyed and this oddly feminine young boy who probably can't remember his mysterious past and his weird animal hybrid friends are the only hope to save the world!"
Add or subtract a couple things and I've covered about 50 JRPGs right there.
Oh you've covered far more than 50 mah' friend.The main reason I don't like JRPGs is because half of the stories are exactly the same give or take a twist or two.
"Oh no! the world is about to be destroyed and this oddly feminine young boy who probably can't remember his mysterious past and his weird animal hybrid friends are the only hope to save the world!"
Add or subtract a couple things and I've covered about 50 JRPGs right there.
Ospov
[QUOTE="Ospov"]Oh you've covered far more than 50 mah' friend.The main reason I don't like JRPGs is because half of the stories are exactly the same give or take a twist or two.
"Oh no! the world is about to be destroyed and this oddly feminine young boy who probably can't remember his mysterious past and his weird animal hybrid friends are the only hope to save the world!"
Add or subtract a couple things and I've covered about 50 JRPGs right there.
ProjectTrinity
lol I was just trying to be nice. And it's not like i'm saying they're all terrible or anything, but i really enjoy stories and I've just never been sucked into a JRPG's story. Maybe I just haven't played long enough, but the times I've played it takes several hours to even start to get slightly interesting and I just quit before then. I get too bored :(
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