do you think Sony has hit an ice berg?

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#1 Dogmatic923
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As a new PS3 owner, only for like a month, i have been following closely news about the PS3 and checking out these sites more often. Besides the normal fanboy stuff on the outside, it seems like on the inside there are PS3 owners who are getting frustrated with there $600 investment. I must say, that when i bough this system it was fully for the future of the games that are to come since the 360 is keeping occupied now. But i bought in the hype of the ps3's power and future potential. So, i am not discourage just yet since i knew what i was getting myself into and knew of the potential risk involved. I must admit however, the situation seems more bleak than i first thought. But i wasn't planing on playing a bunch of AAAs on the PS3right off the bat. This however maybe different for some.

However, this question is mainly for the people who bought it close to launch for higher expectations. I asked this because i want to gain some perspective on this situation.

But the main question is:

Do you think Sony at this point in the console race is like a ship at sea taking on water? Meaning that there is only so much negative publicity that this system can take before it sinks. And How much has PS3 miss, if any, the mark as of this point?

This question presupposes that sonyhas indeed suffered from negative publicity, I don't think that's debatable. However, the degree, severity, significants implication, ofthe PS3 problems may and indeed is debatable.

Like i said in the intro, I am not worried, just concerned. I personally wouldn't go all the way to the left and agree with what xbots think and say the ship will sink, but i do think they have there job cut out for them to take out the water to keep the ship up above water. I I'm $600 dollors sure they do this!

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#2 navigata
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Well, alot of this "negativity" that you talk about will ITSELF be "sinked" in the next couple of months. With the arrival of Playstation home, and alot of new titles such as GTA to say the least, the future looks bright for the ps3. People may criticize all they want but in the end it will most likely flop in their face.
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#3 FF-resevil-halo
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I try not to let it get me down, if anything it pissing me off more because of the fact that im becoming a total fanboy and constantly defending the ps3 even when none of my friends are talking sh*t the negative puplicity is making me paranoid not mad or sad at how sony is doing because I know that the games I love are on their way and if that meens waiting a year or so and becoming a little paranoid then so be it.
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#4 GARRYTH
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no they just stop a the dock to re-fuel. they will head out to sea soon anuff. we did get two aaa games this mouth. ngs and vagas.
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#5 Raio_
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I understand what you mean with delays in games like The Darkness in the EU and no reason as to why and the delaying of other titles which are merely ports Sony are having a hard time, i think that it will pass though people are buying the PS3 for other things except for the console whereas xbox360 is simply a games console, you could say this is why the PS3 isnt doing so well.

When you think about it though its following the same sales pattern as the PS1 and PS2 and look how they did, dont compare the PS3 to the Wii thats where alot of people fall down they are two completely different things like ham and milk (who wants a ham and milk sandwich?)

You have to bare in mind that there are alot of development titles in the works both first party and third exclusives or timed exclusives around this time is when the PS3 will come into its own. Currently it can meet the xbox360's graphical power and surpass it when the 360 has been out for over 19 months now extend that time and you'll see the 360 hit a wall and the PS3 keep going.

Think about the PC games on that are restricted to the ability of peoples PC's developers have to tone their games down so that they can support it and the same thing will happen developers will start getting nowhere with the 360 and look more toward PS3 with its bluray and sixaxis etc.

At the moment the 360 has the market dominance given the time its been out but i think everything will change, i doubt it will turn into a niche market like the guy at my local game shop tried to argue saying that it is going nowhere and will go nowhere. Will give them a nice taste of my balls when they are proved wrong, until then i will play the games i like on a console i like without the danger of setting my curtains alight :/

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#6 notoriousmatty
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Sony is the Future of gaming, and I cant say that enough. Maybe not a year from now but in two years the xbox isnt even going to be mentioned in the same breath as the ps3, the ps3 potential is for a 10 year span. The xbox will win this year and maybe even the next year but I promise it wont win after that. Blu rays capacity not only just as a movie format will allow devs to create larger and more immersive games, its a good long term purchase, but for instant gratification get a 360.

I love my ps3

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#7 haseeb_1989
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I also love my ps3 its just people are expecting to much from sony. Since there is a gaming drought why dont people go back and try some ps1/ps2 classics.
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#8 Dogmatic923
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I understand what you mean with delays in games like The Darkness in the EU and no reason as to why and the delaying of other titles which are merely ports Sony are having a hard time, i think that it will pass though people are buying the PS3 for other things except for the console whereas xbox360 is simply a games console, you could say this is why the PS3 isnt doing so well.

When you think about it though its following the same sales pattern as the PS1 and PS2 and look how they did, dont compare the PS3 to the Wii thats where alot of people fall down they are two completely different things like ham and milk (who wants a ham and milk sandwich?)

You have to bare in mind that there are alot of development titles in the works both first party and third exclusives or timed exclusives around this time is when the PS3 will come into its own. Currently it can meet the xbox360's graphical power and surpass it when the 360 has been out for over 19 months now extend that time and you'll see the 360 hit a wall and the PS3 keep going.

Think about the PC games on that are restricted to the ability of peoples PC's developers have to tone their games down so that they can support it and the same thing will happen developers will start getting nowhere with the 360 and look more toward PS3 with its bluray and sixaxis etc.

At the moment the 360 has the market dominance given the time its been out but i think everything will change, i doubt it will turn into a niche market like the guy at my local game shop tried to argue saying that it is going nowhere and will go nowhere. Will give them a nice taste of my balls when they are proved wrong, until then i will play the games i like on a console i like without the danger of setting my curtains alight :/

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I think your right in saying the PS3 will pick up the steam soon, but it may be over stating the case to think 360 will not be major player in 19 months. They have the money to keep the Devs loyal.
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#9 Raio_
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heh dont think of Micro$oft as one giant company, the way its structured is so that the Games area of the business is like a seperate company in itself, if Sony stretches their corporate muscles then m$ will run and hide in a corner with a gun and one bullet, at the moment Sony is just seeing whats going on toying with the current market then its gonna jump on it in one quick go (starting september/november in my opinion) when that happens Sony will dominate.

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#10 Masoa
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Please stop all these: WTF?! ZOMG PS3 DEAD topic. If you don't want a PS3 or don't have some time for the PS3 to grow then DON'T buy one, or atleast stop these topics. :)

E3 is around the corner, let PS3 have time to grow, it's been out for half a year almost, the 360 year +. Let it grow, or buy a 360. simple

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#11 crck
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If anything I think your hanging around system wars too much. Most of what I have heard has been positive for Sony in the last month. 1. Sony has reportedly paid Epic to optimize the Unreal Engine for the ps3. Which has now turned into rumors of an exclusive ps3 game. 2. News of an exclusive Bioware game are circulating. Its probably going to be a MMO but thats still good news. 3. Sony ebay sales are on the rise while wii and 360 sales have dropped the last 2 weeks. Although this isn't a direct indication of new console sales the secondary market is a good indication of rising demand for a ps3 in anticipation of upcoming titles. 4. The 5 free bluray movies when you buy a ps3 should move some units. 5. The lastest previews of Lair and Heavenly Sword have been very promising. The only negative recently is the 30 fps for the football games. I think the positives have far outweighed the negatives recently.
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#12 The_Rick_14
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I think the better analogy is that the PS3 is an engine without any fuel. Once it fuels up, it'll get moving.
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#13 darkusse
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I can see the original posters point, I consider myself slightly concerned. Although deep down I do believe the PS3 is a sleeping giant which will gradually wake up and take centre stage. I guess I`m maybe more annoyed than concerned, mostly due to the poor games and high amount of bugs in just about everything I play. (even this site doesnt work in the PS3 browser) .. But the fact I just spent £50 on Rainbox six to notice the game looks about 75% finished kinda adds to my anger of the situation. Hopefully come the days of Gran Turismo or FIFA`08 I`ll be a happy man :)
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#14 jimm895
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It takes time for developers to learn the new technology. Also most people don't realize that there is two Socom games in the works now that is being developed from Zipper. The first one will beonline only and the lead developer is Slant Six working with Sony and Zipper. The second one is being developed by Zipper. Both of these games are being developed with Sony developers working beside the developers to deliver the most that can be delieverd from the games. As of now I have been playing my PS2 games so much that I haven't even really played the only PS3 game I own now. Call of Duty 3.
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#15 jshigashi
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I say that getting two 9+ games and another mid 8's game (NGS, R6, and The Darkeness), that the opposite is happening right now.
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#16 darkusse
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I know Oblivion isn`t an exclusive, but it is so impressive and by far (and I mean by far) the best RPG I have ever seen and played. Fantastic game (for those who dont have it and remotely like RPG`s - buy it!) :P That game alone is a good example of what we can expect to see.
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#17 Insane00
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I pretty much agree with all the responces to this post, and I also understand the TC's point. Since the ps3 came out, a ton of bad press has been released about it and overall, due to slow console sales, lack of games, and the camparitive superiority, I think most ps3 gamers, especially the ones that try to stay informed feel overwhelmed by the tides that seem to be flowing against them.

However everyone here has brought up good reasons why things will get better, and no matter what things will change. They'll get better or worse, but not stay stagnant. I toss my hat in with those that expect Sony's success for all the reasons posted. But I wanted to present an idea I haven't read yet that I came up with this weekend.

When the ps3 released last fall, the hype, the demand, the insanity of it all was rediculous. People everywhere knew something about it, and it became the talk on the streets. Unfortunately what everyone knew was that demand would be extraordianary, supply would be rediculously low, and people would be willing to shell out a couple of grand for the puppies on ebay. No one stopped and thought about the situation it seems like what kind of games come out at launch, how much time do we have to wait for new releases, this is a new system that a company is trying to develop an entirely new network for, and heck there might even be a few bugs to work out of the design (thankfully, that didn't happen). My point is that it was basically impossible for Sony to be able to make a system as successful, have the game library, and especially the network of the 360 which had been out for a year, Live having been out for like three (I don't remember exactly). But because so many got caught up in the hype (fueled largely by Sony) they expected it to trample the market and leave no survivors. When this didn't happen a whole bunch of market professionals, gamers (many ps3 launch owners), and developers laid into Sony, and we are still seeing the results.

But there's one little thing people seem to have forgotten all together. Most people buy video game systems as presents for someone else. I would say probably at least half the ps2's sold between 2000 and 2005 were presents of some sort. For proof of this look at the spike sales go through from October through December. Sales can jump from between one to three hundred thousand consoles a month to over a million for a particular system. In other words, the vast majority of console purchases are by people who are not gamers and don't want them for themselves exclusively. Most of these people knew they weren't gonna get a ps3 last year and so are on hold. When the next holiday season they still will remember that the ps3 is the hot new thing, only this year they are sitting on the shelves rather than trying to get shipped so I ifgure we will see a massive turn around this winter.