Do you think sony needs to push headset talking more?

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#1 duduman05
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a lot of the times when i play online with the headset other people dont talk because they dont have a headset all the time so im usually forced to play with out it , so do you think sony should push it more or what?
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#2 3zoozM
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yes, but please, for gods sake, remove the stupid open mic
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#3 BurningChimaera
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yes, but please, for gods sake, remove the stupid open mic3zoozM

Open mic?

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#4 Judonwanit
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there is no open mic, only game i believe has this at the moment is burnout paradise, and is good cuz it makes people talk. I think the only way most people will talk is if they either release a ps3 blutooth headset, or start giving one in the packs.
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#5 3zoozM
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COD4 has open mic (mic is on the enite time just incase you dont know) people really abuse it and its ANNOYING...they play songs, whistle, humm, SING, or there's just a lot of background noise in their house (baby crying, people shouting, other TV on)
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#6 ianuilliam
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How exactly would sony do that? Encourage people to talk by offering them cake? Seriously, do you want them to make a press release urging everyone to chat more? They already gave out bluetooth headsets like candy with Warhawk. If people skimped out on that and are too cheap to buy a bluetooth headset, they can always just get a usb headset for like $10. I don't think it's lack of headset availability keeping people from talking, more like lack of interest. Most of the time when I do hear people talking, it's just sad jr-high crap-talking, so half the time, I don't bother turning mine on.
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#7 BurningChimaera
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I say Sony should work on a Bluetooth headset specifically designed for the PS3. Call it the PlayStation Ear if you must. Make it good so it doesn't interfere with the controller, and I'd return my current Motorola H350 for it.
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#8 MajorAdamska
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COD4 has open mic (mic is on the enite time just incase you dont know) people really abuse it and its ANNOYING...they play songs, whistle, humm, SING, or there's just a lot of background noise in their house (baby crying, people shouting, other TV on)3zoozM

yeah it gets annoying REALLY quick. Its not everyone but when someone does it makes you usually turn your mic off and that shouldnt have to happen. They just need to eliminate the open mic idea, have push to talk. As for the mic sales i think it should be pushed, the warhawk and mic bundle was a good idea they should do something like that again.

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#9 Spindoc_SEI
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There is no reason to talk with other people in online pickup matches. If a headset ever becomes a requirement I would just stop playing games online entirely on PS3 or any other system. I don't care much about online play anyway. I could actually care less.
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#10 Judonwanit
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Its good that people talk in deathmatch games or team games to discuss strategy to win. Because a team with no strategy is one that loses, i tend to win in matches of warhawk where people are talking strategy. Its also just fun to speak to someone you're playing with while your killing them.
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#11 Spindoc_SEI
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Good? Yes. Necessary or required? No.
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Its good that people talk in deathmatch games or team games to discuss strategy to win. Because a team with no strategy is one that loses, i tend to win in matches of warhawk where people are talking strategy. Its also just fun to speak to someone you're playing with while your killing them.Judonwanit

sure maybe on warhawk people talk strategy...on CoD4 they talk ****, all racist comments and random blabering

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#13 locoidontknow
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I like talking to mature people. So its kind of a double edged sword. On one side I think it should be mandatory to have a headset in team ranked games. On the other side you get those punks out there who cuss all the time and say stupid things, or makes dumb sounds for no reason. The PS3 is really good compared to " the other guy " when it comes to mature players, so I cant say I would push for it, I kind of like it the way it is. On a side note, is Burnout worth getting?
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I think that Sony should allow chatting while playing games like XBox. even though I'm a Sony fan, I like that idea.
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#15 Dr-Strangelove
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I personally liked the option of switching from open mic to mic off on a slider button the xbox has. Games with mic use need a mute function, but I hate playing while holding down a button to talk, especially in fast paced games like COD4.
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How exactly would sony do that? Encourage people to talk by offering them cake? Seriously, do you want them to make a press release urging everyone to chat more? They already gave out bluetooth headsets like candy with Warhawk. If people skimped out on that and are too cheap to buy a bluetooth headset, they can always just get a usb headset for like $10. I don't think it's lack of headset availability keeping people from talking, more like lack of interest. Most of the time when I do hear people talking, it's just sad jr-high crap-talking, so half the time, I don't bother turning mine on.ianuilliam
just to let you know, "There is no cake." sorry :)
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[QUOTE="Judonwanit"]Its good that people talk in deathmatch games or team games to discuss strategy to win. Because a team with no strategy is one that loses, i tend to win in matches of warhawk where people are talking strategy. Its also just fun to speak to someone you're playing with while your killing them.3zoozM

sure maybe on warhawk people talk strategy...on CoD4 they talk ****, all racist comments and random blabering


Its fun at times on cod4,but i have encountered this racist problem aswell. They should add a mute player option because the mexican jokes are getting way too old. These little kids and even grown men ive heard just start being racial. Im not mexican but i'm dominican still latino and it pisses me off. Its also happening sometimes on burnout paradise. anywho back to the topic at hand, more people aught to have mics its essential in online gaming. Sometimes you need people to do certain things and their out and about doing their own thing just not helping anyone so its pointless for them to even be online.
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[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]How exactly would sony do that? Encourage people to talk by offering them cake? Seriously, do you want them to make a press release urging everyone to chat more? They already gave out bluetooth headsets like candy with Warhawk. If people skimped out on that and are too cheap to buy a bluetooth headset, they can always just get a usb headset for like $10. I don't think it's lack of headset availability keeping people from talking, more like lack of interest. Most of the time when I do hear people talking, it's just sad jr-high crap-talking, so half the time, I don't bother turning mine on.tgschmidt
just to let you know, "There is no cake." sorry :)

damnit...what about coockies?

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cockies? rather intresting.
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#20 ianuilliam
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Its good that people talk in deathmatch games or team games to discuss strategy to win. Because a team with no strategy is one that loses, i tend to win in matches of warhawk where people are talking strategy. Its also just fun to speak to someone you're playing with while your killing them.Judonwanit

IF people are talking strategy in a team game, that's great, and it does help, but lack of talking doesn't automatically mean you lose. As for deathmatches, or other non-team games, there is no strategy to discuss. If by 'fun to speak to someone while you are killing them' you mean it's fun to make fun of them for not being as good as you, then no, that's lame. Someone may have just started playing, and is probably feeling bad enough that they keep getting killed, without some jerk repeatedly saying something liek 'you just got pwned. AGAIN. How bad do you suck?' I play Warhawk a lot with my wife, my friend, and his fiance. I come in first in most games, but the others I'm playing with don't always do so well, an sometimes people are eager to let them know as much. I've never been they type to kick people because they're beating me, but I'll kick someone in a second for acting like a jack***.

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#21 Judonwanit
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by fun to me atleast i have a couple of friends on my list that we just talk about anything aswell as talk about the game while playing deathmatches. Like oh you like that nade, or damn that was a nice kill. i dont make fun of people unless they already have a mic and start claiming their nice cuz they got a few kills to then get owned.
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#23 brad5553
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i play call of duty alot and i play search and destroy, when people dont have a mic or anything to talk in with that its point less ur basically on ur own (no team work with out talking) so i think sony should push headsets

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great way to push headsets is to have them come in the box...how good could it be? well people will open their ps3 boxes and see a headset and say heyy ill probably use this when playing later. lots of people just dont have headsets cuz it doesnt come packaged and dont have the means to purchase one.
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great way to push headsets is to have them come in the box...how good could it be? well people will open their ps3 boxes and see a headset and say heyy ill probably use this when playing later. lots of people just dont have headsets cuz it doesnt come packaged and dont have the means to purchase one.Judonwanit

there you go, a simple yet great idea.

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If sony was making all the games, then yeah, i think they should. but since they, obviously, aren't doing that. maybe the DEVELOPERS of the games should give i headsets, (like they did with Warhawk) or something else. it doesn't have to be an expensive one (again, like the Warhawk one) But then again. all games i played with Mic. support on the PS3, people have talked and talked. Sure, sometimes it doesn't happen. But maybe that's for the best. if EVERYONE had a Mic. you would be hearing whining little brats screaming racist stuff all the time, and screaming other stuff. It would be ok, because if people takes the trash-talking waaay to far, i just report them because it's fun to do so. :D hoping they will get kicked of the PSN. Aaah, the good dreams
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I think the wanted it some, because that was what part of the obsession factor last gen. Was you could throw any game out their, and if you had community and people talking, and new friends and interaction. They felt like they were in a new world "that some like that have never felt in real life." But as this gen goes by, I dont think that will fool people as much. So I think the headset will just grow to people if they want it "its their if a game needs it." More so they want to concentrate on the best software, and than add in interaction to that "home" after the good software. Because if interaction worked great with not much content. It will do wonders with great content. Need the content first thow.

If that makes sense lol:P

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great way to push headsets is to have them come in the box...how good could it be? well people will open their ps3 boxes and see a headset and say heyy ill probably use this when playing later. lots of people just dont have headsets cuz it doesnt come packaged and dont have the means to purchase one.Judonwanit

If they have $400-$600 to purchase a console, along with $60 per game, they can afford to buy a $10 usb headset. Sony already included all the expensive add-ons and extras in the box (wi-fi adaptor, hi-def player, standardized hard drive, free online play). Anyone of those would cost you well over $10 to add, if they weren't included. I'm fine with them leaving out a headset. If anything, they should add that in a bundle with a game. Oh Snap! They did. Voice chat is not something Sony should be worrying about. If anyone should, it's up to the devs of the individual games to make voice chat easy and accessible, but mostly it's up to the community. Be friendly, mature, respectful; provide an atmosphere that's not intimidating, and more than likely people will talk.

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[QUOTE="Judonwanit"]great way to push headsets is to have them come in the box...how good could it be? well people will open their ps3 boxes and see a headset and say heyy ill probably use this when playing later. lots of people just dont have headsets cuz it doesnt come packaged and dont have the means to purchase one.ianuilliam

If they have $400-$600 to purchase a console, along with $60 per game, they can afford to buy a $10 usb headset. Sony already included all the expensive add-ons and extras in the box (wi-fi adaptor, hi-def player, standardized hard drive, free online play). Anyone of those would cost you well over $10 to add, if they weren't included. I'm fine with them leaving out a headset. If anything, they should add that in a bundle with a game. Oh Snap! They did. Voice chat is not something Sony should be worrying about. If anyone should, it's up to the devs of the individual games to make voice chat easy and accessible, but mostly it's up to the community. Be friendly, mature, respectful; provide an atmosphere that's not intimidating, and more than likely people will talk.

Sadly enough. those two things are the two rarest things to find online. especially in games like COD4 or Warhawk.. That's why it's better to know a bunch of people. who you (kinda) trust, since you can't trust anyone over the internet 100%, even if you wanted to. That way you can be pretty sure to always have a good match going.

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[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]

[QUOTE="Judonwanit"]great way to push headsets is to have them come in the box...how good could it be? well people will open their ps3 boxes and see a headset and say heyy ill probably use this when playing later. lots of people just dont have headsets cuz it doesnt come packaged and dont have the means to purchase one.zeforgotten

If they have $400-$600 to purchase a console, along with $60 per game, they can afford to buy a $10 usb headset. Sony already included all the expensive add-ons and extras in the box (wi-fi adaptor, hi-def player, standardized hard drive, free online play). Anyone of those would cost you well over $10 to add, if they weren't included. I'm fine with them leaving out a headset. If anything, they should add that in a bundle with a game. Oh Snap! They did. Voice chat is not something Sony should be worrying about. If anyone should, it's up to the devs of the individual games to make voice chat easy and accessible, but mostly it's up to the community. Be friendly, mature, respectful; provide an atmosphere that's not intimidating, and more than likely people will talk.

Sadly enough. those two things are the two rarest things to find online. especially in games like COD4 or Warhawk.. That's why it's better to know a bunch of people. who you (kinda) trust, since you can't trust anyone over the internet 100%, even if you wanted to. That way you can be pretty sure to always have a good match going.

Exactly my point. people not talking has nothing to do with not having the means to get a headset. The average ps3 owner is over the age of 14. They log into a game and hear the immature and disrespectful crap, they have no interest in it. If people want more folk to join in voice chat in games, then it is up to the community to encourage it, not up to Sony to throw a headset in the box, or offer us cake or something.

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[QUOTE="Judonwanit"]great way to push headsets is to have them come in the box...how good could it be? well people will open their ps3 boxes and see a headset and say heyy ill probably use this when playing later. lots of people just dont have headsets cuz it doesnt come packaged and dont have the means to purchase one.ianuilliam

If they have $400-$600 to purchase a console, along with $60 per game, they can afford to buy a $10 usb headset. Sony already included all the expensive add-ons and extras in the box (wi-fi adaptor, hi-def player, standardized hard drive, free online play). Anyone of those would cost you well over $10 to add, if they weren't included. I'm fine with them leaving out a headset. If anything, they should add that in a bundle with a game. Oh Snap! They did. Voice chat is not something Sony should be worrying about. If anyone should, it's up to the devs of the individual games to make voice chat easy and accessible, but mostly it's up to the community. Be friendly, mature, respectful; provide an atmosphere that's not intimidating, and more than likely people will talk.


If you ask alot of xbox owners, they liked the fact that they got a headset along with their console and would of actually thought of buying a ps3 if it came with that. I kind of get what you say though, i went and bought my own anyways. Just think that if it was packaged inside alot more people would be talking online and making it a better community.
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[QUOTE="3zoozM"]COD4 has open mic (mic is on the enite time just incase you dont know) people really abuse it and its ANNOYING...they play songs, whistle, humm, SING, or there's just a lot of background noise in their house (baby crying, people shouting, other TV on)MajorAdamska

yeah it gets annoying REALLY quick. Its not everyone but when someone does it makes you usually turn your mic off and that shouldnt have to happen. They just need to eliminate the open mic idea, have push to talk. As for the mic sales i think it should be pushed, the warhawk and mic bundle was a good idea they should do something like that again.

they are going to do another "headset/bluetooth bundle" with SOCOM:confrontation which is do out i think june 6. they should setup the whole mic thing the way they had it on SOCOM 2. it lets you mute people and also allows you to set a private channel for people/friends you only want to talk to.

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[QUOTE="MajorAdamska"]

[QUOTE="3zoozM"]COD4 has open mic (mic is on the enite time just incase you dont know) people really abuse it and its ANNOYING...they play songs, whistle, humm, SING, or there's just a lot of background noise in their house (baby crying, people shouting, other TV on)8bit16bitsowhat

yeah it gets annoying REALLY quick. Its not everyone but when someone does it makes you usually turn your mic off and that shouldnt have to happen. They just need to eliminate the open mic idea, have push to talk. As for the mic sales i think it should be pushed, the warhawk and mic bundle was a good idea they should do something like that again.

they are going to do another "headset/bluetooth bundle" with SOCOM:confrontation which is do out i think june 6. they should setup the whole mic thing the way they had it on SOCOM 2. it lets you mute people and also allows you to set a private channel for people/friends you only want to talk to.

Well if they do it with the next SOCOM that makes sense. I just hope that they do something about voice commands. Once while playing SOCOM 2, I was just BSing around with the game. I said something like "ECHO, MOVE TO, Semper Fi." The AI responded "live by the code, die by the code. guns hot." To this day I still don't know if that was a glitch in the system or some kind of secret passcode.

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I can't hear you.......:lol:
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Just playing I think when HOME comes out they might just push it out more until then I'am happy with everything,on xbox live I get call names by little kids and sometimes grow men but mostly little brats it really don't bother me that much cause at the end of the day they can't back up one single word!!!!!:evil:
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In a way yes and no. There arent a whole lot ppl that hve mics online ex cod4. Im playing and its real hard to communicate where the enemy is comming from or wat to do when some1 doesnt have a mic. But its also bad becuz the ppl that do have a mic talk trash and play music. Theres hardly any real communication going on.

In conclusion, sony shouldnt really push headsets a whole lot. Jus gonna be more jerks online is all....Besides they wouldnt really want or need to unless they wre makin the headsets to make a profit for themselves.

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#37 beinss
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Yes I even think they should begin to have a wired mic that attaches to the mini usb port at the top of the controller that comes with the console. Its so annoying trying to talk to people and only either hearing nothing or breathing/background sounds. IDK if people just cant hear me or what but they need better online chat. It was actually something that almost made me want to sell my PS3 just days after i bought it
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I say Sony should work on a Bluetooth headset specifically designed for the PS3. Call it the PlayStation Ear if you must. Make it good so it doesn't interfere with the controller, and I'd return my current Motorola H350 for it.BurningChimaera

this is an interesting idea

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#39 somesthetic
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an official PS3 headset would be good.

if they could make super cheap usb ones and put them in the PS3 box, that would be ideal.

online play is always better when you have someone to talk to.

ironically, Warhawk, the game that comes with a headset, isn't any fun for me because people are never talking online.

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#40 cebcubs1
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[QUOTE="BurningChimaera"]I say Sony should work on a Bluetooth headset specifically designed for the PS3. Call it the PlayStation Ear if you must. Make it good so it doesn't interfere with the controller, and I'd return my current Motorola H350 for it.04JETTA

this is an interesting idea

Actually, it is sort of already being done. Motorola makes a bluetooth (don't know which model) that comes in black/gray/red packaging and says "For use with the Playstation3" on the package. Saw it at Walmart for around $60 (I think that was the price, can't remember for sure). If I also remember specifics correctly, I think the headset was black, gray, and maybe a little red on it, but black and gray for sure.

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Also, just saw one online that is MadCatz bluetooth that is red for Playstation 3.
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#42 funkyguy2
Member since 2007 • 25 Posts
Well, in Socom there is no open mic. When there is no open mic it kind of forces you to talk with a brain. Only if your in a clan match and you want to win.