Do you use RGB Limited or Full on your PS3... why?

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#1 deactivated-5dc1155346926
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What do you guys use when it comes to these two settings? Is there any benefit one over the other? Pros and Cons? Thanks for your information.

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#2 eddy96_1
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i use full RGB
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#3 Nephilim83
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Full makes your colors much more vibrant, but it also makes things in dark areas of the screen (like in shadows) have a red tint to them when they're supposed to be black. Since I play a lot of darker colored games I stick with limited.
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#4 danimal233
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hmm never touched that setting. actually i dont even know where it is. il have to play around with it - i play darker games so i guess ill use limited
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#5 Furi-Kun
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I always use the defaults.

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The RGB full settings can only be used on mostly Sony product HDTVs. While they do make everything look arguably nicer, your TV will most likely not support this feature.
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#7 Nephilim83
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The RGB full settings can only be used on mostly Sony product HDTVs. While they do make everything look arguably nicer, your TV will most likely not support this feature.hazelnutman
Sony if I got a Sony HDTV I could use RGB without all the red stuff in the shadows? Damn my wife for being so cheap! I told her Dynex was Best Buy's generic knock off brand but nooooo....
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[QUOTE="hazelnutman"]The RGB full settings can only be used on mostly Sony product HDTVs. While they do make everything look arguably nicer, your TV will most likely not support this feature.Nephilim83
Sony if I got a Sony HDTV I could use RGB without all the red stuff in the shadows? Damn my wife for being so cheap! I told her Dynex was Best Buy's generic knock off brand but nooooo....

this is what is great about being a single college student with 3 roomates in a cheap town house save up for 3 months and anything 1500 dollars or less is yours. I jsut picked u pa 1080P sony SXRD 50 inch yea it's DLP but it was twice the size same picture quality and it was 800 bucks comparted to a 40 inch bravia for 1100

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#9 Deathtransit
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Try it, if your TV supports it (you'lknow it doesn't if your screen goes black ), use it. You just need to then turn up your brightness to compensate. It will NOT make things muddy if you adjust your brightness, even dark games will be crystal clear.
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#10 Freebird8877
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Limited. RGB makes things look too dark on my TV.
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#11 deactivated-5dc1155346926
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Well my TV supports it indeed. I have a Samsung 650 120Hz series. It has slightly better color on RGB Full but the blacks are too dark. Seems like adjusting the tvs brightness fixes it but from game to game it's not the same. Some games are darker than other games so you would have to keep playing around with your tv's brightness. Last night I turned it to RGB Limited and my tv has a "HDMI Black Level Adjust". I turned that on and it almost looked as colorful and dark as RGB Full on PS3. Only thing is... the Blacks are not too dark in dark scenes. Hmmm... I don't know, guess my tv's adjustment may be a tad bit better than RGB Full.

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#12 brooklynPS3ds
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there are alot of other settings for your ps3 that make the picture look better, i honestly forgot which ones but i seen them on youtube, it seemed to make a big difference

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The RGB full settings can only be used on mostly Sony product HDTVs. While they do make everything look arguably nicer, your TV will most likely not support this feature.hazelnutman

This is incorrect information. RGB Full can be used on Samsung too as well. I have 2 Samsungs and they both can use it. Also computer monitors too. It's not a "sony" thing.

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[QUOTE="hazelnutman"]The RGB full settings can only be used on mostly Sony product HDTVs. While they do make everything look arguably nicer, your TV will most likely not support this feature.kenken2g

This is incorrect information. RGB Full can be used on Samsung too as well. I have 2 Samsungs and they both can use it. Also computer monitors too. It's not a "sony" thing.

true i use full
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#15 raven_squad
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I use full. Honestly, I think most sets support it... It's just a matter of whether or not it works out on yours. I've done it on 4 HDTV's and only one of them was a Sony.
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[QUOTE="Nephilim83"][QUOTE="hazelnutman"]The RGB full settings can only be used on mostly Sony product HDTVs. While they do make everything look arguably nicer, your TV will most likely not support this feature.Sarge1442

Sony if I got a Sony HDTV I could use RGB without all the red stuff in the shadows? Damn my wife for being so cheap! I told her Dynex was Best Buy's generic knock off brand but nooooo....

this is what is great about being a single college student with 3 roomates in a cheap town house save up for 3 months and anything 1500 dollars or less is yours. I jsut picked u pa 1080P sony SXRD 50 inch yea it's DLP but it was twice the size same picture quality and it was 800 bucks comparted to a 40 inch bravia for 1100

i was being sarcastic. I do have a Dynex TV, but it works just as well as anything else and...... It supports RGB. :P
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#17 deactivated-5dc1155346926
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I use full. Honestly, I think most sets support it... It's just a matter of whether or not it works out on yours. I've done it on 4 HDTV's and only one of them was a Sony. raven_squad

Yup my tv supports it too. I just have a HDMI black adjust that I believes works better than RGB Full. I'll toggle back and forth to see

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#18 deactivated-59506133570df
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Mine's set to default because it's fine how it is.

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#19 Floppy_Jim
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Mine's on Full, I tested it once and the colours looked a little better. So I kept it on Full.
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#20 jkocher
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This is one of the better explanations of full RGB on the PS3 that I've read: http://forums.highdefdigest.com/1567685-post19.html .

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I tried this test from the Internet and downloaded this black picture with 12 blocks. I have a Panasonic plasma hdtv

*When I turn the contrast and brightness way up, in RGB Limited I can see 11 blocks clearly. See picture below

*When I turn the contrast and brightness way up, in RGB Limited I can see only 4 blocks clearly. See picture below

If this tv supported Full RGB, I should be able to see the same ammount of blocks as in RGB Limited.

Conclusion: my tv does not support Full RGB and I loose a LOT of detail in dark areas with Full RGB enabled.

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Do you have a link to the picture?

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#23 shhbob
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i use full RGBeddy96_1

i also use full

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#24 deactivated-5dc1155346926
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I tried this test from the Internet and downloaded this black picture with 12 blocks. I have a Panasonic plasma hdtv

*When I turn the contrast and brightness way up, in RGB Limited I can see 11 blocks clearly. See picture below

*When I turn the contrast and brightness way up, in RGB Limited I can see only 4 blocks clearly. See picture below

If this tv supported Full RGB, I should be able to see the same ammount of blocks as in RGB Limited.

Conclusion: my tv does not support Full RGB and I loose a LOT of detail in dark areas with Full RGB enabled.

Bunnyslippers

But if your TV doesn't support RGB Full... wouldn't the PS3 go to a blank screen or say that your tv doesn't? Doesn't it warn you if your tv doesn't support this it would revert back to the original settings?

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#25 hazelnutman
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Do you have a link to the picture?

jkocher
I too would like a link to this picture
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#26 Denji
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I have a Sharp HDTV and it supports it. Always have it on full. I have this weird obsession with having the best picture possible:P

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What do you guys use when it comes to these two settings? Is there any benefit one over the other? Pros and Cons? Thanks for your information.

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I think there are videos on youtube to optimize your PS3 settiongs on yout TV, i did it but i dont remeber what the old way looked like lol
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#28 BZSIN
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Limited. If I have it on full, the colours looks over-saturated and a lot darker.

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#29 Jadman131
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Full my tv makes the black areas good anyway because i turn it to limited and all of the colours look washed out.
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#30 deactivated-5dc1155346926
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Full my tv makes the black areas good anyway because i turn it to limited and all of the colours look washed out.Jadman131

Yeah when I put my tv on limited... it's like a greyish look... when it's on Full the colors pop out more. I just wish the PS3 would have let us use Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr instead of RGB for gameplay like it does for Blu-Ray playback. Xbox 360 does this. With this setting you never have to worry about washed out colors or grey blacks... or having it on Full and some sets make the blacks too thick and colors over saturated.

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#31 iRecoil
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I use full because it makes everything seem more realistic.

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#32 Eazy1891
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i keep it on full because i switch from HD to SD tvs alot you should see it on full on a sony bravia 52'' omg its beautiful and you do see a slight difference then limited....i never noticed any red in the dark spots though like a few guys were saying...guess ill look for it next time

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#33 deactivated-5dc1155346926
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i keep it on full because i switch from HD to SD tvs alot you should see it on full on a sony bravia 52'' omg its beautiful and you do see a slight difference then limited....i never noticed any red in the dark spots though like a few guys were saying...guess ill look for it next time

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I never see red in dark spots on my Samsung 650 series. Hmmm that must be a Sony TV issue because several people have said that. I use RGB Full all the time now. Colors pop more and blacks are very black but not blacked out or too dark

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[QUOTE="hazelnutman"]The RGB full settings can only be used on mostly Sony product HDTVs. While they do make everything look arguably nicer, your TV will most likely not support this feature.kenken2g

This is incorrect information. RGB Full can be used on Samsung too as well. I have 2 Samsungs and they both can use it. Also computer monitors too. It's not a "sony" thing.

It's useless to jump on someone's grill when he said "mostly".
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#35 ForceFreeze
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Limited. Trust me if you go full you will lost a noticeable detail in your darks. Go play Killzone 2 and compare them yourself. You might get brighter colors, but it is barely noticeable at all compared to limited UNLESS you're TV suports RGB, which is VERY unlikely. Dont use full just because it "sounds" better than limited, there is a reason why SONY set limited as the default setting.

If you think that increasing the contrast/brightness of your TV can compensate for the loss of black detail in Full, it does'nt help much.

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Limited. Trust me if you go full you will lost a noticeable detail in your darks. Go play Killzone 2 and compare them yourself. You might get brighter colors, but it is barely noticeable at all compared to limited UNLESS you're TV suports RGB, which is VERY unlikely. Dont use full just because it "sounds" better than limited, there is a reason why SONY set limited as the default setting.

If you think that increasing the contrast/brightness of your TV can compensate for the loss of black detail in Full, it does'nt help much.

ForceFreeze

On most tvs Limited makes everything washed out. Everyone knows this. Remember those Gametrailers video comparisons (back in 2007) where they would show 360 VS PS3 and the PS3 ALWAYS looked washed out and bland compared to 360? That was before RGB Full was used. Now PS3s colors pop just as well as 360s with RGB Full on. Killzone 2 is NOT too dark on my TV with RGB Full on. That's the way I've been playing KZ2 since launch so I don't know what you mean by that. My tv supports RGB. Limited makes blacks look grey and colors less colorful.

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#37 brooklynPS3ds
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maybe it wpould be good for some1 to explain what RGB actually stands for? and isnt having something full always better than limited?

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I use RGB Full on a Samsung 50" plasma, it allows you to use 1 tv setting after calibrating your tv with a calibration disk. If you do not then when gaming you will need one setting, and have to use another for watching dvds/blurays. Another wordsif RGB Full isnot on my games look overly bright and washed out if using the same setting on my tv after calibration, you will definitly need TWO SEPERATE settings on your tv if you don't use this. Heck even my xmb gets washed out or is way to bright if RGB Full is not on.

Hope this helps.

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I got it on full, much nicer than default

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Limited. Trust me if you go full you will lost a noticeable detail in your darks. Go play Killzone 2 and compare them yourself. You might get brighter colors, but it is barely noticeable at all compared to limited UNLESS you're TV suports RGB, which is VERY unlikely. Dont use full just because it "sounds" better than limited, there is a reason why SONY set limited as the default setting.

If you think that increasing the contrast/brightness of your TV can compensate for the loss of black detail in Full, it does'nt help much.

ForceFreeze

If you have your blacks to where they should be at for games to look good that way with RGB full off, then I bet your dvd's and blurays are on the dark side lol. If not then your games are washed out like crazy.

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I'm on a Samsung LN32B530 and I use full colors. I'm going to look into some options said on here, but it struck me as optimal picture quality when I was fiddling around with it.

[QUOTE="Sarge1442"]

[QUOTE="Nephilim83"] Sony if I got a Sony HDTV I could use RGB without all the red stuff in the shadows? Damn my wife for being so cheap! I told her Dynex was Best Buy's generic knock off brand but nooooo.... Nephilim83

this is what is great about being a single college student with 3 roomates in a cheap town house save up for 3 months and anything 1500 dollars or less is yours. I jsut picked u pa 1080P sony SXRD 50 inch yea it's DLP but it was twice the size same picture quality and it was 800 bucks comparted to a 40 inch bravia for 1100

i was being sarcastic. I do have a Dynex TV, but it works just as well as anything else and...... It supports RGB. :P

I didn't know Dynex made TVs O.o but I've had good experiences with keyboards, cables, headsets and other random stuff by them.

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I use RGB Full on a Samsung 50" plasma, it allows you to use 1 tv setting after calibrating your tv with a calibration disk. If you do not then when gaming you will need one setting, and have to use another for watching dvds/blurays. Another wordsif RGB Full isnot on my games look overly bright and washed out if using the same setting on my tv after calibration, you will definitly need TWO SEPERATE settings on your tv if you don't use this. Heck even my xmb gets washed out or is way to bright if RGB Full is not on.

Hope this helps.

GreyFoXX4

I agree 100%. If RGB Full isn't on my XMB looks like its grey. On Blu-Ray playback this isn't the case because it's not using RGB to playback DVDs. Gameplay uses RGB and so does the XMB. With RGB Full I get great blacks just like I do on Blu-Ray playback. If someone calibrated their TV to look right using RGB LIMITED... their blacks would be horrible on Blu-Ray playback then they would have to re calibrate their tv to watch a blu-ray lol

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[QUOTE="ForceFreeze"]

Limited. Trust me if you go full you will lost a noticeable detail in your darks. Go play Killzone 2 and compare them yourself. You might get brighter colors, but it is barely noticeable at all compared to limited UNLESS you're TV suports RGB, which is VERY unlikely. Dont use full just because it "sounds" better than limited, there is a reason why SONY set limited as the default setting.

If you think that increasing the contrast/brightness of your TV can compensate for the loss of black detail in Full, it does'nt help much.

GreyFoXX4

If you have your blacks to where they should be at for games to look good that way with RGB full off, then I bet your dvd's and blurays are on the dark side lol. If not then your games are washed out like crazy.

Agreed

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[QUOTE="ForceFreeze"]

Limited. Trust me if you go full you will lost a noticeable detail in your darks. Go play Killzone 2 and compare them yourself. You might get brighter colors, but it is barely noticeable at all compared to limited UNLESS you're TV suports RGB, which is VERY unlikely. Dont use full just because it "sounds" better than limited, there is a reason why SONY set limited as the default setting.

If you think that increasing the contrast/brightness of your TV can compensate for the loss of black detail in Full, it does'nt help much.

GreyFoXX4

If you have your blacks to where they should be at for games to look good that way with RGB full off, then I bet your dvd's and blurays are on the dark side lol. If not then your games are washed out like crazy.

...I dont understand your post at all:?

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[QUOTE="ForceFreeze"]

Limited. Trust me if you go full you will lost a noticeable detail in your darks. Go play Killzone 2 and compare them yourself. You might get brighter colors, but it is barely noticeable at all compared to limited UNLESS you're TV suports RGB, which is VERY unlikely. Dont use full just because it "sounds" better than limited, there is a reason why SONY set limited as the default setting.

If you think that increasing the contrast/brightness of your TV can compensate for the loss of black detail in Full, it does'nt help much.

kenken2g

On most tvs Limited makes everything washed out. Everyone knows this. Remember those Gametrailers video comparisons (back in 2007) where they would show 360 VS PS3 and the PS3 ALWAYS looked washed out and bland compared to 360? That was before RGB Full was used. Now PS3s colors pop just as well as 360s with RGB Full on. Killzone 2 is NOT too dark on my TV with RGB Full on. That's the way I've been playing KZ2 since launch so I don't know what you mean by that. My tv supports RGB. Limited makes blacks look grey and colors less colorful.

If your TV supports RGB Full that's fine, however for the TVs who cant support RGB then it is better to stick to limited, at least for my Samsung.

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Well my TV supports it indeed. I have a Samsung 650 120Hz series. It has slightly better color on RGB Full but the blacks are too dark. Seems like adjusting the tvs brightness fixes it but from game to game it's not the same. Some games are darker than other games so you would have to keep playing around with your tv's brightness. Last night I turned it to RGB Limited and my tv has a "HDMI Black Level Adjust". I turned that on and it almost looked as colorful and dark as RGB Full on PS3. Only thing is... the Blacks are not too dark in dark scenes. Hmmm... I don't know, guess my tv's adjustment may be a tad bit better than RGB Full.

kenken2g

i also have a 46 inch 120 hz 650 series.. i use full and all my ps3 games look amazing

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Well my TV supports it indeed. I have a Samsung 650 120Hz series. It has slightly better color on RGB Full but the blacks are too dark. Seems like adjusting the tvs brightness fixes it but from game to game it's not the same. Some games are darker than other games so you would have to keep playing around with your tv's brightness. Last night I turned it to RGB Limited and my tv has a "HDMI Black Level Adjust". I turned that on and it almost looked as colorful and dark as RGB Full on PS3. Only thing is... the Blacks are not too dark in dark scenes. Hmmm... I don't know, guess my tv's adjustment may be a tad bit better than RGB Full.

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i also have a 46 inch 120 hz 650 series.. i use full and all my ps3 games look amazing

Yeah the 650 series is an amazing TV. I use RGB FULL now. Before the reason the blacks were too dark was because I had the HDMI black turned up with RGB FULL on and it was like a double effect lol. I use RGB Full now with that HDMI Black level set to normal and it looks really good. very colorful and blacks are just right

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#48 patriots7672
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I use full RGB, it looks much better than limited.

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#49 catfishmoon23
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I use RGB Full with my LCD Monitor, but when I connected my PS3 to my bro's 42" Samsung Plasma, I had to turn it off because in KZ 2, I couldn't even get the symbol to show on the Gamma settings when set on the highest setting.

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#50 deactivated-5dc1155346926
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I use RGB Full with my LCD Monitor, but when I connected my PS3 to my bro's 42" Samsung Plasma, I had to turn it off because in KZ 2, I couldn't even get the symbol to show on the Gamma settings when set on the highest setting.

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REally? Wow that's strange.