Does anyone honestly think killzone 2s going to look like the e3 trailer?

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#1 michael098
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And when i say look i also mean animation, effects and everything else in the trailer.
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#2 L8erSquare
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I hope so :) im putting my money on yes, yes it will look that good 8)
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#3 9thwardice
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well i read that its already surpassed the cgi in some parts and that was last year when the guy involved in it was in an interview, and he also said that it is very possible for it be as good as the cgi

so i have my fingers crossed that it will look like it, but even if it doesnt look like it im gonna get it no matter how it turns out

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#4 destroyuh
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with the PS3 it's possible. i just don't think they could pull it off this soon. maybe with a bit more PS3 hardware experience.

and keep in mind that Guerilla created the best looking FPS on the PS2. and it looked so good that it was too much for the PS2 to handle. it became obvious at some points during the game. some areas were even bugged but Guerilla has total freedom now so be ready to see the PS3 like you've never seen it before. i think it's possible to recreate the E3 trailer in real time. The Cell is something that people will try to copy 8 years from now.

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#5 Pablo620
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We are only in the beginning of this generation. Graphics are going to advance to what we thought was impossible so yes, i think it will look like the trailer if not better
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#6 dragonsack
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And when i say look i also mean animation, effects and everything else in the trailer.michael098

no!!! but i hope they reach the same line as UT3, i think most people would be happy with that!!!

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#7 Teyon
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Well, looking at how close Blue Dragon is (sorry for mentioning 360 stuff here) to today's 3D animation, I'd say hell yeah it's possible on the PS3 for Killzone to look close to the concept trailer. With the right engine behind the scenes, it could look exactly like it. Just look at the Crysis engine or the engine being created for Project Offset. It's totally possible.
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#8 _Stuff_
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No way. It'll be good, but not CGI good.
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#9 destroyuh
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[QUOTE="michael098"]And when i say look i also mean animation, effects and everything else in the trailer.dragonsack

no!!! but i hope they reach the same line as UT3, i think most people would be happy with that!!!

i could say they surpassed UT3 without even seeing the new Killzone footage. Killzone is going to change the world of shooters. the best shooter in the world won't exist on the 360. it will be property of Sony.

Killzone PS3.

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#10 ff7isnumbaone
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Sony threw some money at them so better make it come close.
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#11 MorkkiTH
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I don't think so. But I think that killzone 2 will look amazing when it comes out! But we have to just wait...
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#12 ReverseCycology
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Killzone2 will be Game Of The Year.

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#13 dragonsack
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[QUOTE="dragonsack"]

[QUOTE="michael098"]And when i say look i also mean animation, effects and everything else in the trailer.destroyuh

no!!! but i hope they reach the same line as UT3, i think most people would be happy with that!!!

i could say they surpassed UT3 without even seeing the new Killzone footage. Killzone is going to change the world of shooters. the best shooter in the world won't exist on the 360. it will be property of Sony.

Killzone PS3.

killzone don't need to have to look like cgi to make it the best shooter!!! gameplay make that!!! if you look around right now the only thing killzone need to beat is UT3!

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#14 dragonsack
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Killzone2 will be Game Of The Year.

ReverseCycology

just asking... what year would that be???

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#15 ReverseCycology
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[QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

Killzone2 will be Game Of The Year.

dragonsack

just asking... what year would that be???

Ask Conan O'Brian.

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#16 dragonsack
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you guy should look at this:

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25697943&msg_id=289294077#289294077

that might make it the biggest and best selling game of all times!!!

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#17 gamer082009
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I don't think it'll look like the e3 trailer, I think it'll look to be on the lines of Resistance. Hopefully not but that's kinda what I think. If they can pullit off though, It'll make me evenhappier forbeing a PS3 owner.
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#18 dragonsack
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[QUOTE="dragonsack"][QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

Killzone2 will be Game Of The Year.

ReverseCycology

just asking... what year would that be???

Ask Conan O'Brian.

who is Conan O'Brian!!! they said he's name in AGI.

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#19 mikeslemonade
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I think it's going to look a little bit better than Haze. It's going look better than all shooters except Crysis.
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#20 whiteshadow55
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Its gonna be a great game no matter what... as good as the CG trailer? no.......... close to that Possibly which will be a feat in itself i think the animation in it will be there hardest to duplicate imo

its gonna be a great great amazing looking game buts its still gonna get crapped on by people cause of that damn CG trailer.. that trailer was a mistake imo

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#21 el_rika
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Well, looking at how close Blue Dragon is (sorry for mentioning 360 stuff here) to today's 3D animation, I'd say hell yeah it's possible on the PS3 for Killzone to look close to the concept trailer. With the right engine behind the scenes, it could look exactly like it. Just look at the Crysis engine or the engine being created for Project Offset. It's totally possible.Teyon

Blue Dragon doesn't have Motion Captured animations, they are just hand made and it shows. The Killzone trailer had perfectly motion captured animations for EVERY character, with no links between separate sets of animationswhich i think is impossible as it would take forever to do. I really don't think it'll ever be possible to make perfect animations in-game for every single character, or at least not untill there's a HUGE (millions of animations) Mo-Capped animations engine or something.

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#22 Xb0Xer
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well i think anything is possible and if they can pull it off, the ps3 is the machine to do it... i mean with blu ray and the high capacity it can hold who knows what is possible with that much space
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#23 deactivated-58405e092ba2c
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I really really hope so, but I don't think so, it would just be to good:P

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#24 Maverick128
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[QUOTE="ReverseCycology"][QUOTE="dragonsack"][QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

Killzone2 will be Game Of The Year.

dragonsack

just asking... what year would that be???

Ask Conan O'Brian.

who is Conan O'Brian!!! they said he's name in AGI.

:o

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#25 Teyon
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[QUOTE="Teyon"]Well, looking at how close Blue Dragon is (sorry for mentioning 360 stuff here) to today's 3D animation, I'd say hell yeah it's possible on the PS3 for Killzone to look close to the concept trailer. With the right engine behind the scenes, it could look exactly like it. Just look at the Crysis engine or the engine being created for Project Offset. It's totally possible.el_rika

Blue Dragon doesn't have Motion Captured animations, they are just hand made and it shows. The Killzone trailer had perfectly motion captured animations for EVERY character, with no links between separate sets of animationswhich i think is impossible as it would take forever to do. I really don't think it'll ever be possible to make perfect animations in-game for every single character, or at least not untill there's a HUGE (millions of animations) Mo-Capped animations engine or something.

Heavenly Sword is fully mo-capped, so the chances are really good. Oh, and in the 3D world, motion capture isn't the be all and end all. We actually only recently started to really accept it as something you can do without having to clean it up. Just an FYI from a modeler/animator. :)

Oh....and I totally agree with your Sig. Those two games rock hard.

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#26 Swift_Boss_A
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I don't think it will look as good as the E3 05 trailer but it will be damn close and look phenomenal.
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#27 Puppa_Shogun
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With a budget of 21 million I hope so.

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#28 RahKayne
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guys check out the trailer again, it wasn't that good. It's totally doable, take another look at it. The people, weapons, atmosphere, Epic has graphics that are close (keyword close) to it now. Only thing i think they would change is the effects.

The fire for example, it looked cool but not realistic. Plus that type of effect isn't doable on even PCs right now. (ingame)

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#29 Mcortijo01
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I think Killzone will look close to the trailer.

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#30 Xanog1
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Graphics? Yes

Smoke Effects? Yes

Sound Effects? Yes

Animations? No, however, I do expect some pretty impressive ones. (just look at what Naughty Dog is doing in Uncharted, I expect somewhere around that degree)

I really don't know why so many people think that the graphics are impossible to create, when in reality, the animations were the most impressive parts of the E3 2005 trailer.

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#31 Devils_Joker_22
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I think it would be cool if they remade the trailer in real time. To make it easyer to compare.
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#32 LosDaddie
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And when i say look i also mean animation, effects and everything else in the trailer.michael098

It won't be anywhere close. the PS3 (or the x360) doesn't have enough power to match that trailer. Too much going on and too much detail.

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#33 Xanog1
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I think it would be cool if they remade the trailer in real time. To make it easyer to compare.Devils_Joker_22

It would be nice if we saw the start of the trailer, with those guys talking on the hover platforms, and then the gun is pulled out, and starts to fire, while someone walks on stage holding the controller and playing it.

Or they could just do it the standard way, by having a bunch of powerpoint slides, followed by inviting the person out to play.

Hopefully they bring out someone actually good, that doesn't get owned with invincibility enabled (see: Genji 2 demo)

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#34 Devils_Joker_22
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[QUOTE="Devils_Joker_22"]I think it would be cool if they remade the trailer in real time. To make it easyer to compare.Xanog1

It would be nice if we saw the start of the trailer, with those guys talking on the hover platforms, and then the gun is pulled out, and starts to fire, while someone walks on stage holding the controller and playing it.

Or they could just do it the standard way, by having a bunch of powerpoint slides, followed by inviting the person out to play.

Hopefully they bring out someone actually good, that doesn't get owned with invincibility enabled (see: Genji 2 demo)

Lets take out this craab.....if...he...shows up

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#35 Fire_of_Contee
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As far as i can tell, the char models will look the same, enviromental effects will be lower (hardley noticabley), but it'll only run at like 35 fps, but hey if the 360 can run gears then the PS3 should have no problem with Killzone.
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#36 dhjohns
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No way. It'll be good, but not CGI good._Stuff_

Agreed. Should be nice, real nice, but not CGI nice.

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#37 Prinze
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Graphics? Yes

Smoke Effects? Yes

Sound Effects? Yes

Animations? No, however, I do expect some pretty impressive ones. (just look at what Naughty Dog is doing in Uncharted, I expect somewhere around that degree)

I really don't know why so many people think that the graphics are impossible to create, when in reality, the animations were the most impressive parts of the E3 2005 trailer.

Xanog1

Yeah, this is pretty much how I feel as well.

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#38 bluntiss
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Theirs no way it's going to look like that, first of all if it did then they would have more footage available and actual gameplay shown and played by gamespot. Wasn't it already confirmed that the footage was being shown on a pc rather then the actual console? I'm pretty sure it is, anyways, even when they came out with footage for GT, they showed footage of Forza and Project Gotham. Having done this, how could anybody believe that the footage was real. They've already apologized to ms for using footage from their game. I find that pretty funny..
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#39 stefanlek
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My Uncle works at Guerillaand says it looks better in some parts!
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#40 Furbyballistik
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because of the cell processor, this game may very much have those animations we seen in the e305 trailer....have you guys seen the huge amounts of animations being thrown out in heavenly sword? how bout Uncharted? and they still have alot of time left with both games. we all know guerilla is hard at work with Killzone 2, we jus all gotta hope all their hard work pays off.....im hoping jaws will hit floors once e3 comes around
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#41 Someguyinavan
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With their budget they got and alot of time, they should make it look almost as good as the CGI trailer.. Graphics im positive will look the same (better?) but not the animations.. This game will probably compete with UT 3 about being the best FPS of 07.. I take the secrecy as a good thing because when they show up this game at this years E3 manny people will shut up and buy it! Hopefully :D
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One thing that will suck.. If this game will not deliver, Geurilla will not get blamed for the failure, Sony will --_--
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#43 FireFalkon
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Textures, geometries and lighting can be at the same level or higher than that of the trailer

Those phisics, animations and particle effects can be donewith80% the quality of the trailer

But what i'm worried about is gameplay, i'm tired of generic FPSs....

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#44 Redfingers
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And when i say look i also mean animation, effects and everything else in the trailer.michael098

No. That's impossible. I expect them to have a spectacular engine that surpasses UE3, however. If they don't, they've pretty much lost a sale. As long as they put together something impressive, and nail the gameplay, I think I'll be happy.

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#45 Redfingers
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Textures, geometries and lighting can be at the same level or higher than that of the trailer

Those phisics, animations and particle effects can be donewith80% the quality of the trailer

But what i'm worried about is gameplay, i'm tired of generic FPSs....

FireFalkon

How did you possibly obtain this information?

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#46 MusashiSensi
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Stop stressing this game.
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#47 slyydevil
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Let the game speak for itself. After just viewing the trailer from e3o5, I think that the PS3 is competent enough to pull it off, we'll just have to see....
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#48 -Ven-
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With all the cash they've been pouring into the development, it better blow me away..
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#49 davez82
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itll look close, but no its not gonna look as good as the trailer, its impossible
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#50 wizdom
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And when i say look i also mean animation, effects and everything else in the trailer.michael098

Nope,