does blue ray gives out HD on games?

I'm guessing sim_dude is one of the 60% who are unaware of the capabilities of a technology they buy.

From:

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=8387

ok cool, and just one more thing. I'm guessing the xbox 360 DVD disc doesnt gives out HD but only the consolesim_dude_uk

There is no difference between the two consoles in terms of graphical ability as far as resolutions are concerned.

The information that is stored on a DVD or a BD is processed by the system and then sends out the signal at the desired resolution determined by you. Some games are made with 720p in mind and some are made with 1080p in mind.

To put it into real world perspective, The Darkness both for PS3 and 360 is designed to run at 1920x1080 on both versions; this has absolutely nothing to do with what the physical disc is capable of. The 360 version actually plays better than the PS3 version, but that is beside the point.

Don't pay any attention to what a Blu Ray movie can do when compared to a DVD movie, those resolutions don't translate the same way over to a game. In this case a BD disc or DVD disc is just used to store the game data. The GPU in each machine determines what the resolution will be.

I was wondering if the blue ray disc gives out HD on games like they do on films. Because now that the 360 has HDMI , the DVD disc is just standard which only gives them a certain amount of HD quality. While the PS3 has HDMI and HD Blue ray disc. Does the Blue ray give out HD?sim_dude_uk

The disc isn't what's making games HD. The only difference between Blu-ray and DVD is that Blu-ray holds more data and is slightly more scratch resistant.

It's the hardware of the 360/PS3 which allows games to be displayed at resolutions of 720p and up.

yes the blu-ray gives off true hd because it can fit file size of the hd content.. while the 360 dvd format only can fit non hd (upscaled not true hd). they both can to 1080p but the ps 3 is the only true hd. not much a differance. GARRYTH

Complete ignorance. Both consoles output HD content (720p,1080i ,1080p), the storage medium has nothing to do with the screen resolution.

if there is no difference between BD and DVD but the storage, why is there HD-DVD, why not call it DVD 2. And why is BD and HD DVD are rivals. I think the BD does give out HD quality in games but normal DVD doesntsim_dude_uk

I already explained it, but to confirm, your theory is just wrong.

[QUOTE="sim_dude_uk"]ok cool, and just one more thing. I'm guessing the xbox 360 DVD disc doesnt gives out HD but only the consoleLarge_Soda

There is no difference between the two consoles in terms of graphical ability as far as resolutions are concerned.

The information that is stored on a DVD or a BD is processed by the system and then sends out the signal at the desired resolution determined by you. Some games are made with 720p in mind and some are made with 1080p in mind.

To put it into real world perspective, The Darkness both for PS3 and 360 is designed to run at 1920x1080 on both versions; this has absolutely nothing to do with what the physical disc is capable of. The 360 version actually plays better than the PS3 version, but that is beside the point.

Don't pay any attention to what a Blu Ray movie can do when compared to a DVD movie, those resolutions don't translate the same way over to a game. In this case a BD disc or DVD disc is just used to store the game data. The GPU in each machine determines what the resolution will be.

[QUOTE="Large_Soda"]

[QUOTE="sim_dude_uk"]ok cool, and just one more thing. I'm guessing the xbox 360 DVD disc doesnt gives out HD but only the consoleAIH_PSP

There is no difference between the two consoles in terms of graphical ability as far as resolutions are concerned.

The information that is stored on a DVD or a BD is processed by the system and then sends out the signal at the desired resolution determined by you. Some games are made with 720p in mind and some are made with 1080p in mind.

To put it into real world perspective, The Darkness both for PS3 and 360 is designed to run at 1920x1080 on both versions; this has absolutely nothing to do with what the physical disc is capable of. The 360 version actually plays better than the PS3 version, but that is beside the point.

Don't pay any attention to what a Blu Ray movie can do when compared to a DVD movie, those resolutions don't translate the same way over to a game. In this case a BD disc or DVD disc is just used to store the game data. The GPU in each machine determines what the resolution will be.

Kinda sorta.

The disc is irrelevant to the resolution you are playing a game at. Take a PC game for example, they have been shipping on CDs for years and now they are on DVDs, but they have always been able to achieve "High Definition" graphics.

The disc (BD, CD, DVD whatever) is only holding the files and in the case of a console the instruction on how to run it, after that is done it is up to the CPU, and the GPU to take that and send it to the TV.

If I have The Darkness on my PS3 and my 360 connected with the appropriate cables I am getting a "True HD" experience on both platforms. The 360 DOES NOT upscale actual 1080p content.

The only thing that might be confusing people are the games that are not designed for 1080p, a game like Motorstorm which is optimized to output at 720p will only run at that and thus the PS3 will send a 720p signal, which your TV will take and display at its native resolution.

The 360 which has an internal scaling device will take that 720p game and provided your TV is 1080p will upconvert the signal to 1080p, that is where the upconverting confusion starts.

whats all this nonsense... here is the correct answer

the ps3 using bluray and HDMI allows the games and movies to be diplayed in native HD resolutions (acutal HD)

the 360 uses dvds and therfore limits its resolutions to 480p but the 360 has an upscaler built in so the games can be displayed onto HD resolutions. for example the 360 works like a dvd upscaler (games are upscaled to seem HD but actually not)

note bluray has more storage and is mostly used to creat native HD images and uncompressed surround sound, this is why it was invented just like the hd-dvd to hold actual HD movies

also note HDMI allows for digital audio and video signal, a sharper and brighter image

[QUOTE="AIH_PSP"][QUOTE="Large_Soda"]

[QUOTE="sim_dude_uk"]ok cool, and just one more thing. I'm guessing the xbox 360 DVD disc doesnt gives out HD but only the consoleLarge_Soda

There is no difference between the two consoles in terms of graphical ability as far as resolutions are concerned.

The information that is stored on a DVD or a BD is processed by the system and then sends out the signal at the desired resolution determined by you. Some games are made with 720p in mind and some are made with 1080p in mind.

To put it into real world perspective, The Darkness both for PS3 and 360 is designed to run at 1920x1080 on both versions; this has absolutely nothing to do with what the physical disc is capable of. The 360 version actually plays better than the PS3 version, but that is beside the point.

Don't pay any attention to what a Blu Ray movie can do when compared to a DVD movie, those resolutions don't translate the same way over to a game. In this case a BD disc or DVD disc is just used to store the game data. The GPU in each machine determines what the resolution will be.

Kinda sorta.

The disc is irrelevant to the resolution you are playing a game at. Take a PC game for example, they have been shipping on CDs for years and now they are on DVDs, but they have always been able to achieve "High Definition" graphics.

The disc (BD, CD, DVD whatever) is only holding the files and in the case of a console the instruction on how to run it, after that is done it is up to the CPU, and the GPU to take that and send it to the TV.

If I have The Darkness on my PS3 and my 360 connected with the appropriate cables I am getting a "True HD" experience on both platforms. The 360 DOES NOT upscale actual 1080p content.

The only thing that might be confusing people are the games that are not designed for 1080p, a game like Motorstorm which is optimized to output at 720p will only run at that and thus the PS3 will send a 720p signal, which your TV will take and display at its native resolution.

The 360 which has an internal scaling device will take that 720p game and provided your TV is 1080p will upconvert the signal to 1080p, that is where the upconverting confusion starts.

WTF no game on 360 is made in an HD resolution (HD resolutions dont fit on dvds), what the 360 does is take the 480p game and upscale them to whatever resoluion your HDtv does

[QUOTE="GARRYTH"]yes the blu-ray gives off true hd because it can fit file size of the hd content.. while the 360 dvd format only can fit non hd (upscaled not true hd). they both can to 1080p but the ps 3 is the only true hd. not much a differance. Juan-C

Complete ignorance. Both consoles output HD content (720p,1080i ,1080p), the storage medium has nothing to do with the screen resolution.

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[QUOTE="GARRYTH"]yes the blu-ray gives off true hd because it can fit file size of the hd content.. while the 360 dvd format only can fit non hd (upscaled not true hd). they both can to 1080p but the ps 3 is the only true hd. not much a differance. Juan-C

Complete ignorance. Both consoles output HD content (720p,1080i ,1080p), the storage medium has nothing to do with the screen resolution.

WTF are u talking about?

why did we invent bluray and hd-dvd? for nothing?

u r clueless!

[QUOTE="Large_Soda"][QUOTE="AIH_PSP"][QUOTE="Large_Soda"]

[QUOTE="sim_dude_uk"]ok cool, and just one more thing. I'm guessing the xbox 360 DVD disc doesnt gives out HD but only the consolewinner-ps3

There is no difference between the two consoles in terms of graphical ability as far as resolutions are concerned.

The information that is stored on a DVD or a BD is processed by the system and then sends out the signal at the desired resolution determined by you. Some games are made with 720p in mind and some are made with 1080p in mind.

To put it into real world perspective, The Darkness both for PS3 and 360 is designed to run at 1920x1080 on both versions; this has absolutely nothing to do with what the physical disc is capable of. The 360 version actually plays better than the PS3 version, but that is beside the point.

Don't pay any attention to what a Blu Ray movie can do when compared to a DVD movie, those resolutions don't translate the same way over to a game. In this case a BD disc or DVD disc is just used to store the game data. The GPU in each machine determines what the resolution will be.

Kinda sorta.

The disc is irrelevant to the resolution you are playing a game at. Take a PC game for example, they have been shipping on CDs for years and now they are on DVDs, but they have always been able to achieve "High Definition" graphics.

The disc (BD, CD, DVD whatever) is only holding the files and in the case of a console the instruction on how to run it, after that is done it is up to the CPU, and the GPU to take that and send it to the TV.

If I have The Darkness on my PS3 and my 360 connected with the appropriate cables I am getting a "True HD" experience on both platforms. The 360 DOES NOT upscale actual 1080p content.

The only thing that might be confusing people are the games that are not designed for 1080p, a game like Motorstorm which is optimized to output at 720p will only run at that and thus the PS3 will send a 720p signal, which your TV will take and display at its native resolution.

The 360 which has an internal scaling device will take that 720p game and provided your TV is 1080p will upconvert the signal to 1080p, that is where the upconverting confusion starts.

WTF no game on 360 is made in an HD resolution (HD resolutions dont fit on dvds), what the 360 does is take the 480p game and upscale them to whatever resoluion your HDtv does

You are so absolutely wrong. Games are not in 480p and then upscaled, the disc is just holding the data and the internal components are doing the work not the disc. Have you ever in your life played a PC game? Did that game come on a DVD? Were you able to play it at a resolution higher than 640x480? If you answered yes to all 3 then you have been owned.

OK,

So what i am reading is the DVD could only give out 420p plus an upscale to the full 1080p with the xbox 360 hdmi. And with the PS3 the BD can give out a 1080p (in games) plus with the HDMI 1080p.

So the PS3 can give out the sharper texture 1080p (BD) >>HDMI>> 1080p while the 360 has only the 420p(DVD) >> (HDMI) >> 1080p

Which this means the PS3 is true HD quality.

Am i right or confusing everybody here?

[QUOTE="winner-ps3"][QUOTE="Large_Soda"][QUOTE="AIH_PSP"][QUOTE="Large_Soda"]

[QUOTE="sim_dude_uk"]ok cool, and just one more thing. I'm guessing the xbox 360 DVD disc doesnt gives out HD but only the consoleLarge_Soda

There is no difference between the two consoles in terms of graphical ability as far as resolutions are concerned.

The information that is stored on a DVD or a BD is processed by the system and then sends out the signal at the desired resolution determined by you. Some games are made with 720p in mind and some are made with 1080p in mind.

To put it into real world perspective, The Darkness both for PS3 and 360 is designed to run at 1920x1080 on both versions; this has absolutely nothing to do with what the physical disc is capable of. The 360 version actually plays better than the PS3 version, but that is beside the point.

Don't pay any attention to what a Blu Ray movie can do when compared to a DVD movie, those resolutions don't translate the same way over to a game. In this case a BD disc or DVD disc is just used to store the game data. The GPU in each machine determines what the resolution will be.

Kinda sorta.

The disc is irrelevant to the resolution you are playing a game at. Take a PC game for example, they have been shipping on CDs for years and now they are on DVDs, but they have always been able to achieve "High Definition" graphics.

The disc (BD, CD, DVD whatever) is only holding the files and in the case of a console the instruction on how to run it, after that is done it is up to the CPU, and the GPU to take that and send it to the TV.

If I have The Darkness on my PS3 and my 360 connected with the appropriate cables I am getting a "True HD" experience on both platforms. The 360 DOES NOT upscale actual 1080p content.

The only thing that might be confusing people are the games that are not designed for 1080p, a game like Motorstorm which is optimized to output at 720p will only run at that and thus the PS3 will send a 720p signal, which your TV will take and display at its native resolution.

The 360 which has an internal scaling device will take that 720p game and provided your TV is 1080p will upconvert the signal to 1080p, that is where the upconverting confusion starts.

WTF no game on 360 is made in an HD resolution (HD resolutions dont fit on dvds), what the 360 does is take the 480p game and upscale them to whatever resoluion your HDtv does

You are so absolutely wrong. Games are not in 480p and then upscaled, the disc is just holding the data and the internal components are doing the work not the disc. Have you ever in your life played a PC game? Did that game come on a DVD? Were you able to play it at a resolution higher than 640x480? If you answered yes to all 3 then you have been owned.

You're all wrong.. PS3 and blu-ray can only produce 5p MAX! 10x10

/thread

OK,

So what i am reading is the DVD could only give out 420p plus an upscale to the full 1080p with the xbox 360 hdmi. And with the PS3 the BD can give out a 1080p (in games) plus with the HDMI 1080p.

So the PS3 can give out the sharper texture 1080p (BD) >>HDMI>> 1080p while the 360 has only the 420p(DVD) >> (HDMI) >> 1080p

Which this means the PS3 is true HD quality.

Am i right or confusing everybody here?

sim_dude_uk

Wrong again, you're confusing movies with games. YES, the 360 only displays 480p when playing a DVD movie, because all DVD's have a 480p resolution. Blu-ray movies run at 1080p however, as do HD-DVD - an HD-DVD movie on the 360 will run at 1080p.

With games it's completely different - storage medium means jack **** I have a copy of Far Cry for PC that comes on five CD's (remember those? 650MB). I run the game at 1920x1200, otherwise known as "1200p", higher than either console - and it's coming from a max of 3250MB of storage space, less than a single layer DVD. I could just as easily run the game at 720x480 (480p) or 1280x720 (720p). 360's use dual layer DVD, capable of about 8.5GB, and can play games at 1080p, though both consoles usually stick to 720p because you can't tell the difference unless the TV is over about 50 inches.

I was wondering if the blue ray disc gives out HD on games like they do on films. Because now that the 360 has HDMI , the DVD disc is just standard which only gives them a certain amount of HD quality. While the PS3 has HDMI and HD Blue ray disc. Does the Blue ray give out HD?sim_dude_uk

See what you did Sim_Dude

Look at all that flaming, you should be arrested for arson.

Anyways Both PS3 and 360 do HD for games

ONly PS3 has builtin HD for movies.

For 360 you'll have to get an addon.

PS3's BD have 25-50 gb of storage (a good thing for games)

360's DVD has 8 16 gb?????

[QUOTE="sim_dude_uk"]I was wondering if the blue ray disc gives out HD on games like they do on films. Because now that the 360 has HDMI , the DVD disc is just standard which only gives them a certain amount of HD quality. While the PS3 has HDMI and HD Blue ray disc. Does the Blue ray give out HD?RahKayne

See what you did Sim_Dude

Look at all that flaming, you should be arrested for arson.

Anyways Both PS3 and 360 do HD for games

ONly PS3 has builtin HD for movies.

That is so true and not only does it support the HD quality video it also supports true 7.1 surround sound as well.

For 360 you'll have to get an addon.

That is so true and also there is little support for the format anymore.

PS3's BD have 25-50 gb of storage (a good thing for games)

Also there going for a 200 gig disc in the future. Now that will mean unlimited room for game developers then.

360's DVD has 8 16 gb?????

The DVD is been out of date for some time anyway. There is some information data baseprograms that don't even use DVD because of the limited space (this started about 5 or 6 years ago).

[QUOTE="winner-ps3"][QUOTE="Large_Soda"][QUOTE="AIH_PSP"][QUOTE="Large_Soda"]

[QUOTE="sim_dude_uk"]ok cool, and just one more thing. I'm guessing the xbox 360 DVD disc doesnt gives out HD but only the consoleLarge_Soda

There is no difference between the two consoles in terms of graphical ability as far as resolutions are concerned.

The information that is stored on a DVD or a BD is processed by the system and then sends out the signal at the desired resolution determined by you. Some games are made with 720p in mind and some are made with 1080p in mind.

To put it into real world perspective, The Darkness both for PS3 and 360 is designed to run at 1920x1080 on both versions; this has absolutely nothing to do with what the physical disc is capable of. The 360 version actually plays better than the PS3 version, but that is beside the point.

Don't pay any attention to what a Blu Ray movie can do when compared to a DVD movie, those resolutions don't translate the same way over to a game. In this case a BD disc or DVD disc is just used to store the game data. The GPU in each machine determines what the resolution will be.

Kinda sorta.

The disc is irrelevant to the resolution you are playing a game at. Take a PC game for example, they have been shipping on CDs for years and now they are on DVDs, but they have always been able to achieve "High Definition" graphics.

The disc (BD, CD, DVD whatever) is only holding the files and in the case of a console the instruction on how to run it, after that is done it is up to the CPU, and the GPU to take that and send it to the TV.

If I have The Darkness on my PS3 and my 360 connected with the appropriate cables I am getting a "True HD" experience on both platforms. The 360 DOES NOT upscale actual 1080p content.

The only thing that might be confusing people are the games that are not designed for 1080p, a game like Motorstorm which is optimized to output at 720p will only run at that and thus the PS3 will send a 720p signal, which your TV will take and display at its native resolution.

The 360 which has an internal scaling device will take that 720p game and provided your TV is 1080p will upconvert the signal to 1080p, that is where the upconverting confusion starts.

WTF no game on 360 is made in an HD resolution (HD resolutions dont fit on dvds), what the 360 does is take the 480p game and upscale them to whatever resoluion your HDtv does

You are so absolutely wrong. Games are not in 480p and then upscaled, the disc is just holding the data and the internal components are doing the work not the disc. Have you ever in your life played a PC game? Did that game come on a DVD? Were you able to play it at a resolution higher than 640x480? If you answered yes to all 3 then you have been owned.

pc game resolution are different than console game resolutions, its a pc monitor nota TV, do u really think a pc game that has 1080resolution is the same as 1080p HD resolution, why the hell do we have expensive HDTV (if we could get in on a pc monitor) bc they are different! ur retarded!

[QUOTE="sim_dude_uk"]

OK,

So what i am reading is the DVD could only give out 420p plus an upscale to the full 1080p with the xbox 360 hdmi. And with the PS3 the BD can give out a 1080p (in games) plus with the HDMI 1080p.

So the PS3 can give out the sharper texture 1080p (BD) >>HDMI>> 1080p while the 360 has only the 420p(DVD) >> (HDMI) >> 1080p

Which this means the PS3 is true HD quality.

Am i right or confusing everybody here?

repoman89

Wrong again, you're confusing movies with games. YES, the 360 only displays 480p when playing a DVD movie, because all DVD's have a 480p resolution. Blu-ray movies run at 1080p however, as do HD-DVD - an HD-DVD movie on the 360 will run at 1080p.

With games it's completely different - storage medium means jack **** I have a copy of Far Cry for PC that comes on five CD's (remember those? 650MB). I run the game at 1920x1200, otherwise known as "1200p", higher than either console - and it's coming from a max of 3250MB of storage space, less than a single layer DVD. I could just as easily run the game at 720x480 (480p) or 1280x720 (720p). 360's use dual layer DVD, capable of about 8.5GB, and can play games at 1080p, though both consoles usually stick to 720p because you can't tell the difference unless the TV is over about 50 inches.

wow dont listne to this guy, these guys think that a pc game with high resolutions means tru HD images, they are wrong! what u said befreo this guy is correct, i repeat!

bluray plus HDMI + an HDtv gives u a tru native digital HD video and uncompressed audio, dvds can only hold a limited amount ofscpace and therefore cant do HD

the only reason 360 has "HD" games is bc the 360 upscales these games to fit ur HDtv (just like a dvd upscaler)

note all videos of ps3 games look brighter and sharper bc on tru HD digital images!

i cant take this, just as someone at bestbuy or something this is the truth

so what u are sayhing there is a normal xbox 360 game DVD disc can give out a 1080p quality like a blue ray disc?sim_dude_uk

IT CANT! dvds means 480p resolution max (unless upscaled, but not as good as tur HD)

note, why in the hell are allHD movies on HDDVDs and bluray discs? BC THEY DONT FIT ON DVDS!!!!!!!

[QUOTE="Large_Soda"][QUOTE="winner-ps3"][QUOTE="Large_Soda"][QUOTE="AIH_PSP"][QUOTE="Large_Soda"]

[QUOTE="sim_dude_uk"]ok cool, and just one more thing. I'm guessing the xbox 360 DVD disc doesnt gives out HD but only the consolewinner-ps3

There is no difference between the two consoles in terms of graphical ability as far as resolutions are concerned.

The information that is stored on a DVD or a BD is processed by the system and then sends out the signal at the desired resolution determined by you. Some games are made with 720p in mind and some are made with 1080p in mind.

To put it into real world perspective, The Darkness both for PS3 and 360 is designed to run at 1920x1080 on both versions; this has absolutely nothing to do with what the physical disc is capable of. The 360 version actually plays better than the PS3 version, but that is beside the point.

Don't pay any attention to what a Blu Ray movie can do when compared to a DVD movie, those resolutions don't translate the same way over to a game. In this case a BD disc or DVD disc is just used to store the game data. The GPU in each machine determines what the resolution will be.

Kinda sorta.

The disc is irrelevant to the resolution you are playing a game at. Take a PC game for example, they have been shipping on CDs for years and now they are on DVDs, but they have always been able to achieve "High Definition" graphics.

The disc (BD, CD, DVD whatever) is only holding the files and in the case of a console the instruction on how to run it, after that is done it is up to the CPU, and the GPU to take that and send it to the TV.

If I have The Darkness on my PS3 and my 360 connected with the appropriate cables I am getting a "True HD" experience on both platforms. The 360 DOES NOT upscale actual 1080p content.

The only thing that might be confusing people are the games that are not designed for 1080p, a game like Motorstorm which is optimized to output at 720p will only run at that and thus the PS3 will send a 720p signal, which your TV will take and display at its native resolution.

The 360 which has an internal scaling device will take that 720p game and provided your TV is 1080p will upconvert the signal to 1080p, that is where the upconverting confusion starts.

WTF no game on 360 is made in an HD resolution (HD resolutions dont fit on dvds), what the 360 does is take the 480p game and upscale them to whatever resoluion your HDtv does

You are so absolutely wrong. Games are not in 480p and then upscaled, the disc is just holding the data and the internal components are doing the work not the disc. Have you ever in your life played a PC game? Did that game come on a DVD? Were you able to play it at a resolution higher than 640x480? If you answered yes to all 3 then you have been owned.

pc game resolution are different than console game resolutions, its a pc monitor nota TV, do u really think a pc game that has 1080resolution is the same as 1080p HD resolution, why the hell do we have expensive HDTV (if we could get in on a pc monitor) bc they are different! ur retarded!

You have that expensive HDTV 'cause you wanted it...a pc monitor can display HD resolutions (depending on the model of course), I'm sure a lot of people here actually use their monitors to play their games too. Don't forget that those pc games do install to your HDD. And your right in believing a DVD can't hold HD content, that is for a "Full length" HD movie thats why there's the new formats. Game's are a different matter though 'cause you can compress data and what not...And the data used to run the games aren't all HD video there's Hi-res character models and whatever used for the characters and backgrounds and whatnot. And if the games where just SD content upscaled, believe me it wouldn't look all that good from just being upscaled.

[QUOTE="sim_dude_uk"]so what u are sayhing there is a normal xbox 360 game DVD disc can give out a 1080p quality like a blue ray disc?winner-ps3

IT CANT! dvds means 480p resolution max (unless upscaled, but not as good as tur HD)

note, why in the hell are allHD movies on HDDVDs and bluray discs? BC THEY DONT FIT ON DVDS!!!!!!!

True HD huh?....give it a few years and they'll give you a new TRUE HD...

[QUOTE="GARRYTH"]yes the blu-ray gives off true hd because it can fit file size of the hd content.. while the 360 dvd format only can fit non hd (upscaled not true hd). they both can to 1080p but the ps 3 is the only true hd. not much a differance. Juan-C

Complete ignorance. Both consoles output HD content (720p,1080i ,1080p), the storage medium has nothing to do with the screen resolution.

BOTH consoles can display games in HD, but for movies, you need to buy a hd-dvd drive add on to watch hd-dvd films.

[QUOTE="Juan-C"]

[QUOTE="GARRYTH"]yes the blu-ray gives off true hd because it can fit file size of the hd content.. while the 360 dvd format only can fit non hd (upscaled not true hd). they both can to 1080p but the ps 3 is the only true hd. not much a differance. winner-ps3

Complete ignorance. Both consoles output HD content (720p,1080i ,1080p), the storage medium has nothing to do with the screen resolution.

[/QUOTE

[QUOTE="GARRYTH"]yes the blu-ray gives off true hd because it can fit file size of the hd content.. while the 360 dvd format only can fit non hd (upscaled not true hd). they both can to 1080p but the ps 3 is the only true hd. not much a differance. Juan-C

Complete ignorance. Both consoles output HD content (720p,1080i ,1080p), the storage medium has nothing to do with the screen resolution.

WTF are u talking about?

why did we invent bluray and hd-dvd? for nothing?

u r clueless!

its called "SPACE" we needed more space on a disk.

[QUOTE="sim_dude_uk"]so what u are sayhing there is a normal xbox 360 game DVD disc can give out a 1080p quality like a blue ray disc?winner-ps3

IT CANT! dvds means 480p resolution max (unless upscaled, but not as good as tur HD)

note, why in the hell are allHD movies on HDDVDs and bluray discs? BC THEY DONT FIT ON DVDS!!!!!!!

EXACTLY YOU SAID IT YOURSELF, they dont "FIT" on dvds. FIT means SPACE/STORAGE. they CAN put hd movies on REGULAR DVDS but it would take MANY DVDS. the STORAGE MEDIUM does not mean anything, all it DOES is HOLD DATA.

[QUOTE="repoman89"][QUOTE="sim_dude_uk"]

OK,

So what i am reading is the DVD could only give out 420p plus an upscale to the full 1080p with the xbox 360 hdmi. And with the PS3 the BD can give out a 1080p (in games) plus with the HDMI 1080p.

So the PS3 can give out the sharper texture 1080p (BD) >>HDMI>> 1080p while the 360 has only the 420p(DVD) >> (HDMI) >> 1080p

Which this means the PS3 is true HD quality.

Am i right or confusing everybody here?

winner-ps3

Wrong again, you're confusing movies with games. YES, the 360 only displays 480p when playing a DVD movie, because all DVD's have a 480p resolution. Blu-ray movies run at 1080p however, as do HD-DVD - an HD-DVD movie on the 360 will run at 1080p.

With games it's completely different - storage medium means jack **** I have a copy of Far Cry for PC that comes on five CD's (remember those? 650MB). I run the game at 1920x1200, otherwise known as "1200p", higher than either console - and it's coming from a max of 3250MB of storage space, less than a single layer DVD. I could just as easily run the game at 720x480 (480p) or 1280x720 (720p). 360's use dual layer DVD, capable of about 8.5GB, and can play games at 1080p, though both consoles usually stick to 720p because you can't tell the difference unless the TV is over about 50 inches.

wow dont listne to this guy, these guys think that a pc game with high resolutions means tru HD images, they are wrong! what u said befreo this guy is correct, i repeat!

bluray plus HDMI + an HDtv gives u a tru native digital HD video and uncompressed audio, dvds can only hold a limited amount ofscpace and therefore cant do HD

the only reason 360 has "HD" games is bc the 360 upscales these games to fit ur HDtv (just like a dvd upscaler)

note all videos of ps3 games look brighter and sharper bc on tru HD digital images!

i cant take this, just as someone at bestbuy or something this is the truth

DUDE you're an idiot, PC games have been in HD for the last 5 years.

hahah Ps3 games look brighter and sharper because they are on tru hd?? hahah its called calibration and adjustments, most displays have that option.

[QUOTE="Large_Soda"][QUOTE="winner-ps3"][QUOTE="Large_Soda"][QUOTE="AIH_PSP"][QUOTE="Large_Soda"]

[QUOTE="sim_dude_uk"]ok cool, and just one more thing. I'm guessing the xbox 360 DVD disc doesnt gives out HD but only the consolewinner-ps3

There is no difference between the two consoles in terms of graphical ability as far as resolutions are concerned.

The information that is stored on a DVD or a BD is processed by the system and then sends out the signal at the desired resolution determined by you. Some games are made with 720p in mind and some are made with 1080p in mind.

To put it into real world perspective, The Darkness both for PS3 and 360 is designed to run at 1920x1080 on both versions; this has absolutely nothing to do with what the physical disc is capable of. The 360 version actually plays better than the PS3 version, but that is beside the point.

Don't pay any attention to what a Blu Ray movie can do when compared to a DVD movie, those resolutions don't translate the same way over to a game. In this case a BD disc or DVD disc is just used to store the game data. The GPU in each machine determines what the resolution will be.

Kinda sorta.

The disc is irrelevant to the resolution you are playing a game at. Take a PC game for example, they have been shipping on CDs for years and now they are on DVDs, but they have always been able to achieve "High Definition" graphics.

The disc (BD, CD, DVD whatever) is only holding the files and in the case of a console the instruction on how to run it, after that is done it is up to the CPU, and the GPU to take that and send it to the TV.

If I have The Darkness on my PS3 and my 360 connected with the appropriate cables I am getting a "True HD" experience on both platforms. The 360 DOES NOT upscale actual 1080p content.

The only thing that might be confusing people are the games that are not designed for 1080p, a game like Motorstorm which is optimized to output at 720p will only run at that and thus the PS3 will send a 720p signal, which your TV will take and display at its native resolution.

The 360 which has an internal scaling device will take that 720p game and provided your TV is 1080p will upconvert the signal to 1080p, that is where the upconverting confusion starts.

WTF no game on 360 is made in an HD resolution (HD resolutions dont fit on dvds), what the 360 does is take the 480p game and upscale them to whatever resoluion your HDtv does

You are so absolutely wrong. Games are not in 480p and then upscaled, the disc is just holding the data and the internal components are doing the work not the disc. Have you ever in your life played a PC game? Did that game come on a DVD? Were you able to play it at a resolution higher than 640x480? If you answered yes to all 3 then you have been owned.

pc game resolution are different than console game resolutions, its a pc monitor nota TV, do u really think a pc game that has 1080resolution is the same as 1080p HD resolution, why the hell do we have expensive HDTV (if we could get in on a pc monitor) bc they are different! ur retarded!

Do I really think that a 1080p resolution on a computer is the same as that on an HDTV? No, I don't think that, I know that. The reason we have expensive HDTVs in our living rooms instead of PC monitors is because of their inputs and their size. If you wanted you could have a PC monitor in your room and huddle everyone up around it and watch movies, but that doesn't make any sense.

Wanna know something else that's cool? Take a PC and hook it up to your HDTV with a VGA, DVI or even HDMI cable and then change the resolution to 1920x12080 and then play a game.......same thing as the PS3 and 360 in terms of resolution.

And if all the 360 was doing is upscaling 480p then why does it look infinitely sharper than say God of War 2 in a PS3 with HDMI upscaled to 1080p? Because it's not upscaling anything, it is displaying a native 720p or 1080p signal that is exactly the same as what the PS3 does.

Explain why a game like The Darkness looks EXACTLY the same on both consoles? How does the supermagical HDMI, Blu Ray, OMFG digital pureness of PS3 not look drastically better? I know why, because you are wrong.

I'm a little shocked that I am actually replying to you each and every time, but it is kind of funny and you are giving me a wealth of quotable lines each and every post. So keep 'em coming.

I have to go now and get bathed and fed.....on account of being retarded.

whats all this nonsense... here is the correct answer

the ps3 using bluray and HDMI allows the games and movies to be diplayed in native HD resolutions (acutal HD)

the 360 uses dvds and therfore limits its resolutions to 480p but the 360 has an upscaler built in so the games can be displayed onto HD resolutions. for example the 360 works like a dvd upscaler (games are upscaled to seem HD but actually not)

note bluray has more storage and is mostly used to creat native HD images and uncompressed surround sound, this is why it was invented just like the hd-dvd to hold actual HD movies

also note HDMI allows for digital audio and video signal, a sharper and brighter image

winner-ps3

I almost spit my coffee all over the screen when I read that.

You must be the dumbest person alive right next to the "expert" from Bestbuy who told you that. If I may suggest please stop talking about High Definition and Screen Resolutions in the near future because YOU KNOW LESS THEN NOTHING about it and that will stop you from being called Stupid, Dumb and Moron.

[QUOTE="repoman89"][QUOTE="sim_dude_uk"]

OK,

So what i am reading is the DVD could only give out 420p plus an upscale to the full 1080p with the xbox 360 hdmi. And with the PS3 the BD can give out a 1080p (in games) plus with the HDMI 1080p.

So the PS3 can give out the sharper texture 1080p (BD) >>HDMI>> 1080p while the 360 has only the 420p(DVD) >> (HDMI) >> 1080p

Which this means the PS3 is true HD quality.

Am i right or confusing everybody here?

winner-ps3

Wrong again, you're confusing movies with games. YES, the 360 only displays 480p when playing a DVD movie, because all DVD's have a 480p resolution. Blu-ray movies run at 1080p however, as do HD-DVD - an HD-DVD movie on the 360 will run at 1080p.

With games it's completely different - storage medium means jack **** I have a copy of Far Cry for PC that comes on five CD's (remember those? 650MB). I run the game at 1920x1200, otherwise known as "1200p", higher than either console - and it's coming from a max of 3250MB of storage space, less than a single layer DVD. I could just as easily run the game at 720x480 (480p) or 1280x720 (720p). 360's use dual layer DVD, capable of about 8.5GB, and can play games at 1080p, though both consoles usually stick to 720p because you can't tell the difference unless the TV is over about 50 inches.

wow dont listne to this guy, these guys think that a pc game with high resolutions means tru HD images, they are wrong! what u said befreo this guy is correct, i repeat!

bluray plus HDMI + an HDtv gives u a tru native digital HD video and uncompressed audio, dvds can only hold a limited amount ofscpace and therefore cant do HD

the only reason 360 has "HD" games is bc the 360 upscales these games to fit ur HDtv (just like a dvd upscaler)

note all videos of ps3 games look brighter and sharper bc on tru HD digital images!

i cant take this, just as someone at bestbuy or something this is the truth

its funny when people dont know what they are talking about.

[QUOTE="winner-ps3"][QUOTE="repoman89"][QUOTE="sim_dude_uk"]

OK,

So what i am reading is the DVD could only give out 420p plus an upscale to the full 1080p with the xbox 360 hdmi. And with the PS3 the BD can give out a 1080p (in games) plus with the HDMI 1080p.

So the PS3 can give out the sharper texture 1080p (BD) >>HDMI>> 1080p while the 360 has only the 420p(DVD) >> (HDMI) >> 1080p

Which this means the PS3 is true HD quality.

Am i right or confusing everybody here?

bizzy420

Wrong again, you're confusing movies with games. YES, the 360 only displays 480p when playing a DVD movie, because all DVD's have a 480p resolution. Blu-ray movies run at 1080p however, as do HD-DVD - an HD-DVD movie on the 360 will run at 1080p.

With games it's completely different - storage medium means jack **** I have a copy of Far Cry for PC that comes on five CD's (remember those? 650MB). I run the game at 1920x1200, otherwise known as "1200p", higher than either console - and it's coming from a max of 3250MB of storage space, less than a single layer DVD. I could just as easily run the game at 720x480 (480p) or 1280x720 (720p). 360's use dual layer DVD, capable of about 8.5GB, and can play games at 1080p, though both consoles usually stick to 720p because you can't tell the difference unless the TV is over about 50 inches.

wow dont listne to this guy, these guys think that a pc game with high resolutions means tru HD images, they are wrong! what u said befreo this guy is correct, i repeat!

bluray plus HDMI + an HDtv gives u a tru native digital HD video and uncompressed audio, dvds can only hold a limited amount ofscpace and therefore cant do HD

the only reason 360 has "HD" games is bc the 360 upscales these games to fit ur HDtv (just like a dvd upscaler)

note all videos of ps3 games look brighter and sharper bc on tru HD digital images!

i cant take this, just as someone at bestbuy or something this is the truth

its funny when people dont know what they are talking about.

Isn't it?

All that high definition means is that the content is made up of about 1 million pixels or more. PC gamers with 19" LCD's that run at 1280x1024 have been gaming in HD for 5 years.

Read and learn - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-definition_television

whats all this nonsense... here is the correct answer

the ps3 using bluray and HDMI allows the games and movies to be diplayed in native HD resolutions (acutal HD)

the 360 uses dvds and therfore limits its resolutions to 480p but the 360 has an upscaler built in so the games can be displayed onto HD resolutions. for example the 360 works like a dvd upscaler (games are upscaled to seem HD but actually not)

note bluray has more storage and is mostly used to creat native HD images and uncompressed surround sound, this is why it was invented just like the hd-dvd to hold actual HD movies

also note HDMI allows for digital audio and video signal, a sharper and brighter image

winner-ps3

All I have to say it is WOW to this thread...

How can someone mix things up like this. That just because DVDs are known for 480p "MOVIES" that some how a 360 game is only 480p because of the DVD disc. For heaven sakes they can put a 1080p game on a CD. And video, you can even take a 1080p movie file from a computer and burn it onto DVD and have a Blu-ray or HD-DVD player work with it, but of course never a full length movie unlessed highly compressed.

There's a huge difference between motion video and live 3D rendered games. A two hour movie is like 172,000 frames, shown at 24 per second, that raw amount of picture stills takes a huge amount of space. And a that's why we have HD-DVD and Blu-ray that has more space for that many 1920*1080 film frames with no visible compression. While a game is nothing more than a computer application with software data, sound files, 3D object data, and texture image files. There is no set resolution besides whatever they limit the game to for performance reasons. And texture detail that can effect overall picture quality is limited more with the amount of ram the system has to load it all. The PS3 may have some benefits to Blu-rays more data space with games, but more interms of unique textures and more random detail.

Also, did you forget there were HD games on both the PS2 and original Xbox? I know of Gran Tursimo at 1080i, and there were several 720p xbox games.

All I have to say it is WOW to this thread...

How can someone mix things up like this. That just because DVDs are known for 480p "MOVIES" that some how a 360 game is only 480p because of the DVD disc. For heaven sakes they can put a 1080p game on a CD. And video, you can even take a 1080p movie file from a computer and burn it onto DVD and have a Blu-ray or HD-DVD player work with it, but of course never a full length movie unlessed highly compressed.

There's a huge difference between motion video and live 3D rendered games. A two hour movie is like 172,000 frames, shown at 24 per second, that raw amount of picture stills takes a huge amount of space. And a that's why we have HD-DVD and Blu-ray that has more space for that many 1920*1080 film frames with no visible compression. While a game is nothing more than a computer application with software data, sound files, 3D object data, and texture image files. There is no set resolution besides whatever they limit the game to for performance reasons. And texture detail that can effect overall picture quality is limited more with the amount of ram the system has to load it all. The PS3 may have some benefits to Blu-rays more data space with games, but more interms of unique textures and more random detail.

Also, did you forget there were HD games on both the PS2 and original Xbox? I know of Gran Tursimo at 1080i, and there were several 720p xbox games.

TimothyB

BD and HD-DVD isn't about resolution, it's about storage size and different technologies. High resolution pictures take up more space. A movie is made out of thousands of pictures, ergo it needs a lot of space. As long as there is enough space, it doesn't matter where you put it.

pc game resolution are different than console game resolutions, its a pc monitor nota TV, do u really think a pc game that has 1080resolution is the same as 1080p HD resolution, why the hell do we have expensive HDTV (if we could get in on a pc monitor) bc they are different! ur retarded!

winner-ps3

"1080 not the same as 1080p HD", that makes no sense.

We have expensive HDTVs because who wants to watch HD movies on a small PC monitor a foot away to see all the detail.

Just think of a HDTV as a giant PC monitor. Like a 52inch 1080p LCD HDTV is no different than a PC LCD screen, besides being bigger, 16:9 ratio, and video processing for all HD resolutions, speakers and tuners.

Why do you think since the 360 came out people have been using the VGA cable to use PC monitors for cheap HD. And with the PS3, DVI HDCP compatible PC monitors. A 21 inch CRT PC screen that I had 6 years ago for was able to run at resolutions higher than the pixel count on 1080p. And a 30 inch LCD PC screen has twice as many pixels as 1080p.

If you think there is some how a diffference, explain what it is before you go calling people things and end up looking like one yourself.