Does Guides = Cheating?

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#1 ReviewerDrake
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Do you consider using online guides or strategy guides cheating?

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#2 GamerChick2083
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Personally, I don't think it's cheating. Without my Devil May Cry 4 guide, I would STILL be stuck in the same spot.

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#3 ShadowsDemon
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Depends. I did Batman: AA and found all the riddler trophies without a guide, but then again I had to use a map for the blast shards in inFamous. And Batman is way harder than inFamous. It's all preference I guess.
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#4 lotusclown
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absolutely not, people need to stop caring so much how other gamers play.. this is a big reason why games don't include as many options as they used to, if anything makes a game more fun to play everyone says its cheating, stratagy guides simply provide help for getting past frusterating parts where you'd otherwise be stuck in one spot for hours.. thus letting u pass it, although i prefer youtube playthrough vids over guides..

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#5 ReviewerDrake
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I use guides for collectibles but when it comes to puzzles I try to do them myself.

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#6 DarkBloodPrince
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I use guides for collectibles but when it comes to puzzles I try to do them myself.

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yup i do the same thing collectibles are frustrating but with puzzles you feel accomplished lol

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#7 SoNin360
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No, I only use them when I'm stuck on something or looking for collectibles. I don't think you can really "cheat" in a single player game unless exploiting a glitch or actually using cheat codes
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#8 Kurushio
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At worst it is only cheating yourself. Ive used guides and youtube videos for tons of games. Mostly though for stupid collection items like flags, or pigeons. There really isnt any way to cheat in games anymore unlike the old days with Gamesharks and Code breakers which was pretty fun honestly.
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#9 Gxgear
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Not really.

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#10 funkadelichika
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I try not to use them. I like completing a game without help from anywhere. I don't know that guides are cheating perse. But I don't see the point in some people playing games in the first place if they sit there looking at their guide every two seconds and figure nothing out on their own...some people do do that and I don't get how that's fun either.
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#11 josephl64
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I never use guides, but I don't consider it cheating if you use it sparingly and only when stuck

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#12 jdc6305
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For game like MGS4 and Dark Souls guides are a must to get the most out of the game.

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#13 unrealtron
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I don´t think so.

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#14 Megavideogamer
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Nope, They just help you get unstuck.

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#15 Naylord
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No, but never use them from start to finish. Only use them sparingly or for perhaps tackling a repetitive collectathon. Otherwise you'll be cheating yourself out of a game!

Slightly off topic, but duping in dark souls is absolutely cheating it really does ruin the game for everyone else.

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#16 volume_three
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Personally, I think they spoil the experience. I buy games to play them myself, not to have someone else play them for me. IMO, it's no different to purchasing a movie ticket just to have a buddy who's seen it describe the film scene by scene before you walk into the cinema.

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#17 Go_Gamer
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They do if you overuse them.

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#18 KamuiFei
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Does it matter? I could care less if using a guide or exploit in a game is considered cheating. I'll play how I want.

Perfect example, Skyrim.... If not for the bible, I'd be lost how to make a specific potion, or how to get a certain Dragon Priest Mask, or start a Daedric quest. Why should anyone else care?

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#19 Demonfail
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Personally, I think they spoil the experience. I buy games to play them myself, not to have someone else play them for me. IMO, it's no different to purchasing a movie ticket just to have a buddy who's seen it describe the film scene by scene before you walk into the cinema.

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Honestly the way I feel everytime I've had to use a guide.
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#20 Drakan11
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I give it my best shot to do everything myself, but I'll use a guide eventually if it is too hard (usually trying to find every collectible like treasures in uncharted or shards in infamous).
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#21 dan_gerous87
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Only for puzzles or puzzle games. For example using a guide for Portal is totally cheating, since the whole challenge is based on your ability to work out the problem for yourself, & pulling off the solution once you know how is relatively no challenge at all.

But for games like Dark Souls it's fine, because there are no pure puzzle challenges in the game, & even if you look up strategies on how to get past a certain area, you still need to have the skill to pull it off... & besides using a guide will save you from a lot of beginner's traps, trial & error, repetition etc, & get you the most useful equipment that the game never really tells you about.

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#22 aprioristic
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If knowledge is defined as "cheating", yes it satisfies the required conditions.
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#23 Jackc8
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No. When it comes to trophies, some of them are ludicrous. Like in GT5, take a picture of a Honda car as it drives past the Honda offices. Good grief, it could take you years to stumble upon that without looking it up in a guide.

That's just the most blatant example I can think of, but so many other trophies would have you examining every square foot of every single environment in the entire game. It's not a choice between cheating or playing fair, it's a choice between normalcy or lunacy.

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#24 ghost_1919
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NO lol everybody needs help in a game

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#25 SapSacPrime
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No and its better than giving up on a game or throwing a controller out of the window, some times it isn't even your fault if you get stuck for days if a game has bad design. I try to leave it before checking a guide though, its so frustrating when whatever you was missing was staring you in the face.

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#26 tjricardo089
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It's not cheating. It's a guide that helps you on the hardest parts. However, if you use it forever you are lame, but not a cheater.

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#28 backtowar
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Depends. I did Batman: AA and found all the riddler trophies without a guide, but then again I had to use a map for the blast shards in inFamous. And Batman is way harder than inFamous. It's all preference I guess.ShadowsDemon

yup, but you have riddler maps in Batman:AA...
BTW faqs = cheating

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#29 PumpkinBoogie
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absolutely not, people need to stop caring so much how other gamers play.. this is a big reason why games don't include as many options as they used to, if anything makes a game more fun to play everyone says its cheating, stratagy guides simply provide help for getting past frusterating parts where you'd otherwise be stuck in one spot for hours.. thus letting u pass it, although i prefer youtube playthrough vids over guides..

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Agree 100% with this.
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#30 chaotzu
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If I get stuck I use a guide. Plain and simple. Haters gonna hate
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#31 Mikey132
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Being mentored is not cheating, it's the same thing as having a teacher.

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#32 MellyElle21
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nope love guides, i find they can add to the gaming experience and add many more hours after the game is done...back in the day when nintendo had a bunch of codes that get you to the final level or have invincibility or sumtin, that's what i consider cheating... but it's all in gd fun
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#33 ShangTsung17
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had it not been for gamespots stratagy guide i would have NEVER beatin killzone 2.. anyone who claims stratagy guides spoil a gaming experience needs to mind there own business.

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#34 BoSoxIdiot
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I find them to be cheating in a sense but I will not condemn anyone for using one.
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#35 KBFloYd
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yea its kinda like cheating and yea it sort of spoils your enjoyment ..BUT it also enhances and enriches your enjoyment by letting you find and use items or locations you would have never used or found otherwise.

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#36 Ryan_Som
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I used to, but I find myself using them for collectibles and the like. My method is to play through a game at least twice before consulting a guide. That way I've done my first playthrough to experience the game and I've done a clean-up playthrough without any help. I'm usually pretty thorough, so if I haven't found it by that point I need help.

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#37 lotusclown
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No and its better than giving up on a game or throwing a controller out of the window, some times it isn't even your fault if you get stuck for days if a game has bad design. I try to leave it before checking a guide though, its so frustrating when whatever you was missing was staring you in the face.

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^^ THIS. and i have thrown my share of controllers i'll admit that.. its much better to have a guide to fall back on rather than let something as simple as a videogame continue to eat at u..

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#38 ShadowsDemon
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If I get stuck I use a guide. Plain and simple. Haters gonna hatechaotzu
lol I like your style :D
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#39 aceofspades187
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no....hitting up up down and sq to get a tank or unlimited health or ammo is cheating using a book for tips/walkthrough is different
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#40 Conjuration
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Of course it's cheating. There's basically no difference between doing this and writing a test, but copying all the answers off the smart-kid sitting next to you.