Does seth ruin street fighters 4?

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#1 greensthooligan
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i think he does, i consealed myself in my room for 3hours, played on medium best of 3 and couldnt beat him.

not saying i think im a good gamer, but, if its that hard on medium there is something wrong.

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#2 yokofox33
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Not really. He's hard and cheap, but he didn't ruin the game for me. Game is still awesome even though I suck terribly at it.

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#3 sa10kun
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I think street fighter 4 ruins street fighter 4. ^_^ The game is fun but there are alot of problems with the gameplay.

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#4 Furi-Kun
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Use Zangief.

/thread.

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#5 sa10kun
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Use Zangief.

/thread.

Furi-Kun

Hence game play problems= zangief.

Haha. ::hugs furi::

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#6 deactivated-59d151f079814
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[QUOTE="sa10kun"]

[QUOTE="Furi-Kun"]

Use Zangief.

/thread.

Hence game play problems= zangief.

Haha. ::hugs furi::

.. The only clear gameplay problem is with Sagat, other than that the game is quite a deal more balanced than other games of the series.
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#7 Furi-Kun
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[QUOTE="Furi-Kun"]

Use Zangief.

/thread.

sa10kun

Hence game play problems= zangief.

Haha. ::hugs furi::

I hate your Vega SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much! Izuna drop is poop.

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#8 p_kay81
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one of the better games in the series, but agree that still could have been improved a little control-wise, not to mention some of the cheapies in the bloody thing. Fun but slightly frustrating for me, if that makes sense.
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#9 sa10kun
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sf4 is kinda like mortal kombat of the street fighter universe. Wonky gameplay but entertaining.

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#10 EPaul
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Seth isnt the prob Sagat and Zangief are. Now i can beat Seth in less than 3 tries now on the hardiest difficulty. It just takes time to learn his patterns

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#11 x8VXU6
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sf4 is kinda like mortal kombat of the street fighter universe. Wonky gameplay but entertaining.

sa10kun

wat kinda street fighter 4 was u playing cuz the one I played kicked ass

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#12 donmega1
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all boss fights ruin fighting games. think about it. how many fighting games can you name that have "normal" opponents then when you get to the end all of a sudden you gotta deal with something that is twice the size, bigger, stronger, faster, and can disappear and freakin fly? really its bull and usually i loose interest in a fighting game after i beat all the normal characters.

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#13 sa10kun
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[QUOTE="sa10kun"]

sf4 is kinda like mortal kombat of the street fighter universe. Wonky gameplay but entertaining.

x8VXU6

wat kinda street fighter 4 was u playing cuz the one I played kicked ass

The one with zangief.

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#14 good_sk8er7
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Seth is ridiculous!!!! haha. I can win the first round though :D

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#15 Tauu
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Yes, Seth does ruin SF4. He's the main reason I'll be trading my copy of SF4 in for another game. I also didn't like the balance problems and having to use the same two moves over and over again to get anywhere. Maybe I'll try Tekken 6.

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#16 Sepewrath
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The bosses in SF are always cheap, hell in all 2D fighters. If Seth wasn't cheap, it wouldn''t have felt like SF. You think he was bad, you should never ever play 3rd Strike with Gill or CvS with Shin Akuma and Rugal. The game is great, the only problem I have with it is yeah a few balancing issues, but no game ever gets its perfectly and the pause before ultra's, outside of that is typical SF at its finest.
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#17 ThePRAssassin
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I think street fighter 4 ruins street fighter 4. ^_^ The game is fun but there are alot of problems with the gameplay.

sa10kun
..and yet when the top Street Fighter pros say SFIV is perfectly fine, I think I'll agree with them over people who have no idea what they're doing and get dominated by Ken.
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#18 ThePRAssassin
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="sa10kun"]

[QUOTE="Furi-Kun"]

Use Zangief.

/thread.

Hence game play problems= zangief.

Haha. ::hugs furi::

.. The only clear gameplay problem is with Sagat, other than that the game is quite a deal more balanced than other games of the series.

..and yet at Evo, none of the Sagat users placed in the Top 8. He's clearly unbalanced.
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#19 DevilDude3232
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Am I the only one who thought Seth was easy? :?

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#20 fize4ever
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hes not that bad

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#21 spawnassasin
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all boss fights ruin fighting games. think about it. how many fighting games can you name that have "normal" opponents then when you get to the end all of a sudden you gotta deal with something that is twice the size, bigger, stronger, faster, and can disappear and freakin fly? really its bull and usually i loose interest in a fighting game after i beat all the normal characters.

donmega1

i feel your pain man

Tekken 5 comes to mind

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#22 sa10kun
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[QUOTE="sa10kun"]

I think street fighter 4 ruins street fighter 4. ^_^ The game is fun but there are alot of problems with the gameplay.

ThePRAssassin

..and yet when the top Street Fighter pros say SFIV is perfectly fine, I think I'll agree with them over people who have no idea what they're doing and get dominated by Ken.

Well the game is fine just not great. The problems are more annoyances that don't really break the game but are there nonetheless. The game itself is a regression from third strike. Even the people that created the game admitted they didn't want to improve on third strike, they wanted to bring back the basics of street fighter and make it simpler for new people and sf2 fans to get back into. They accomplished exactly that. A game that isn't as good as third strike but is more accesible.

I like 4 cause i'm a pretty sloppy player and this game rewards sloppy gameplay up to a certain point. It's also very exagerated and over the top like the mk games. (but not quite on the level of wtf that is mk) But all in all it's a fun game and that is what matters. It's also a bit more entertaining to watch compared to third strike.

Oh and btw I almost never lose to ken. Unless they are insanely good. You may want to get a mind of your own before you start making assumptions about people.

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#23 pauljames1986
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He seems to randomly switch between being easy to beat or annoyingly hard, no matter what the difficulty setting.
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#24 RadTad62
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no i was able to beat him easily he's just cheap as hell but at least he wasn't as cheap as gill on 3

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#25 King9999
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If you're trying to unlock characters, just set the difficulty to the lowest setting. Not worth the trouble unless you're going for a trophy.

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#26 4NGoods
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Seth wasnt too bad, i'd say he's on par with bison/gill as end bosses. He seems a little cheap which probably frustrates you causing you to make more bad decisions. A better strategy when playing seth is being more defensive and only attack as a counter attack.
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#28 jeremiah06
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[QUOTE="greensthooligan"]

i think he does, i consealed myself in my room for 3hours, played on medium best of 3 and couldnt beat him.

not saying i think im a good gamer, but, if its that hard on medium there is something wrong.

jeremiah06
No, there is nothing wrong with the game your just not a very good player. I can beat Seth on hardest with Ryu, Zangief, Sakura, Seth, E Honda, and Balrog. I remember when I first got this game I couldn't even win on easiest with Chun-Li now hardiest isn't challenging enough.

Edit: If you want a real challenge then play sf2 turbo 1 star above normal it took me 300 tries to GET to M Bison and I gave up at about try 500.
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#29 metalguitar13
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Zangief=L1,L1,L1,L1,L1,L1,etc....PERFECT!!!

I'm trading t=street fighter 4 back for tekken 6 =/

Street Fighter 4 is very overrated for me.

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#30 jeremiah06
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Zangief=L1,L1,L1,L1,L1,L1,etc....PERFECT!!!

I'm trading t=street fighter 4 back for tekken 6 =/

Street Fighter 4 is very overrated for me.

metalguitar13
Yeah right on easy maybe I can own any Zeagief that only tries to grab or spin same goes for spamming kens playing cheap only gets you so far until you play someone with skill.(not saying I'm some super player I'm just above cheapies)
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#31 jeremiah06
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i think he does, i consealed myself in my room for 3hours, played on medium best of 3 and couldnt beat him.

not saying i think im a good gamer, but, if its that hard on medium there is something wrong.

greensthooligan
Akuma ruins sf4 online.
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#32 ScreamDream
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I remember when I thought M. Bison was too tough until you get the hang of him. Seth to me is actually easier than M. Bison. Certain tatics work well against Seth. Perhaps you just need more practice with him.

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#33 Swift_Boss_A
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Really? Well it looks like your no good with fighters :) Seth though cheap is not a hard character to beat, I have beaten him 1st go in extreme hard. I personally don't like Seth as a boss character but he doesn't ruin the game because the other characters are great fun to play as. I would say SF4 is some-what a letdown but still a decent fighter to keep me patient till Tekken 6, damn I still need to buy Blazblue :(

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#34 Furi-Kun
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Umm... It's already known that Sagat and Seth were made to be cheap. The dev said so themselves. Also Gouki does not ruin online. Everyone always says that just because he can do two hadoukens in the air. Pfft, big deal. He has the lowest defence and anyone who can counter can destroy him.

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*cough kof11 cough:|

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#36 Sokol4ever
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I think street fighter 4 ruins street fighter 4. ^_^ The game is fun but there are alot of problems with the gameplay.

sa10kun

There is a lot of truth to this comment and I have to wholeheartedly agree. I grew up with Street Fighter series and I could not get use to SFIV for various reasons.

Seth on medium is one of issue I have with the title.

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#37 z4twenny
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the only thing about sf4 i dont like is the controls. they dont feel tight enough, some of the 2 in 1's it feels like you have to slip it in on this EXACT frame of animation or it wont work. the challenge mode drove me nuts trying to finish some of the normal combos n stuff. then you get in focus dash cancelling and all that stuff, thats too much

[QUOTE="jeremiah06"][QUOTE="greensthooligan"]

i think he does, i consealed myself in my room for 3hours, played on medium best of 3 and couldnt beat him.

not saying i think im a good gamer, but, if its that hard on medium there is something wrong.

jeremiah06

No, there is nothing wrong with the game your just not a very good player. I can beat Seth on hardest with Ryu, Zangief, Sakura, Seth, E Honda, and Balrog. I remember when I first got this game I couldn't even win on easiest with Chun-Li now hardiest isn't challenging enough.

Edit: If you want a real challenge then play sf2 turbo 1 star above normal it took me 300 tries to GET to M Bison and I gave up at about try 500.

hah, we used to play sf2t on snes back in the day with the stars cranked all the way up. we never found it that bad, we just got real good :D

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#38 Chief9088
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Just figure out his pattern and avoid being knocked on the ground, if he dosnt knock you down, he dosnt start his teleport spam. He, like all other characters, fights with a distinct pattern, figure it out and you wont lose another round. I know its harder than it sounds but with time it will come to you and seth will just be another fight.

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#39 Denji
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I've never liked ultra cheap SNK god bosses. I don't know why Capcom is going down that route.

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#40 Denji
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Just figure out his pattern and avoid being knocked on the ground, if he dosnt knock you down, he dosnt start his teleport spam. He, like all other characters, fights with a distinct pattern, figure it out and you wont lose another round. I know its harder than it sounds but with time it will come to you and seth will just be another fight.

Chief9088

Not as easy when he spams teleport (to you) and the invincible, unbreakable throw that he has that he spams to death. Over and over again. Of coarse, there's nothing you can do against it. That close, that quick. It's virtually impossible. Especially when it can break through anything you do.

If you do (by some will of god), guess what? Super Seth Shoryuken up your arse for your troubles directly from an instant cancel that only CPU Seth can pull off.

Unlocking characters in that game was a chore.

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#41 PSP107
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sf4 is kinda like mortal kombat of the street fighter universe. Wonky gameplay but entertaining.

sa10kun
i never realized how unbalanced Mortal Kombat 2 was untill i played it online. It seems u gett punished for attempting an attack. that's why ppl online always stand at a position & block. back in Snes we just fight. Kitana has a 3 hit cheap combo where if Kitana catches u in that Fan move, does that air move while quickly throwing the fan and uppercuts u. 4 step move
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#42 Denji
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[QUOTE="sa10kun"]

sf4 is kinda like mortal kombat of the street fighter universe. Wonky gameplay but entertaining.

PSP107

i never realized how unbalanced Mortal Kombat 2 was untill i played it online. It seems u gett punished for attempting an attack. that's why ppl online always stand at a position & block. back in Snes we just fight. Kitana has a 3 hit cheap combo where if Kitana catches u in that Fan move, does that air move while quickly throwing the fan and uppercuts u. 4 step move

MK has been more unbalanced than a Mugen game in it's entire franchise.

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#43 ThePRAssassin
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[QUOTE="greensthooligan"]

i think he does, i consealed myself in my room for 3hours, played on medium best of 3 and couldnt beat him.

not saying i think im a good gamer, but, if its that hard on medium there is something wrong.

jeremiah06

Akuma ruins sf4 online.

How?

Listen, just because you guys have no idea how to counter someone doesn't mean it's a problem with the game. You've all been spoiled by incredibly easy games like COD4 where if a game challenges you to think just a little it's "unbalanced"

Sagat is the best character overall in the game, however, as I stated earlier, at Evo 09 (you know, where professional players compete) noSagat user made it into the Top 8. What does that say? Skill and intelligence actually means something in this game.

R.I.P video games. I remember the day when you offering challenging gameplay that required you to think was accepted. Now everything has to be dumbed down and playable for blind people in order to be called good.

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#44 Darth_Sibbs
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Not really. He's hard and cheap, but he didn't ruin the game for me. Game is still awesome even though I suck terribly at it.

yokofox33
My feelings exactly. I love Street Fighter 4 but damn I suck at it.